Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2001 01:00:40 +1100 (EDT) Subject: No. 35 Date:- 19 April 2001 1================================================ From: "Paul Smedley" Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:32:45 +1100 Subject: Re: [os2genau] Fwd: Problem with multiple Network cards Hi Ian, Well I tried the tips at your web site to no avail. When I added the adapter ID for the 1st NIC then inserted the second NIC, the system hung just after the network card driver loaded :( It also detected the media incorrectly before it hung too. One other problem I'm having is with DHCP - after the machine boots, ifconfig -lan0 shows an apparent IP address, but I have no DNS until I go to DHCP and do a Release Renew - which is obviously quite annoying! Any tips on this? On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:45:23 +1000 (EST), Ian Manners wrote: >>Well I finally got cable internet installed today - WOOHOO! EXCEPT that I'm having a >>problem getting two network cards to co-exist in OS/2. Of course, both network cards >>work fine in Windows. > >Have a look at > >http://www.os2site dot com/sw/network/misc/twonics.html > 2================================================ From: "John Angelico" Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:27:49 +0900 (EST) Subject: Re: [os2genau] setboot On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:31:26 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote: >Hi Ed, >Indicating, issueing setboot shouldn't have trashed my WPS:- go figure. > >Ed Durrant wrote: >> >> Hi Daryl, >> >> ... From the online help - setboot - examples: >> >> setboot /B shutdown file system buffers and caches and then >> restarts the system >> Er, Ed & Daryl & others who use setboot, it says *shutdown* buffers and caches. It does not say *Flushes* buffers and caches to disk before shutdown... Thus it doesn't actually say that it will save the data. Could be dangerous, dude... Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au -------------------------------------------- PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... Computer - A device designed to speed and automate errors. 3================================================ From: "Ian Manners" Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:13:23 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: [os2genau] Fwd: Problem with multiple Network cards Hi Paul >Well I tried the tips at your web site to no avail. When I added the adapter ID for the 1st >NIC then inserted the second NIC, the system hung just after the network card driver >loaded :( It also detected the media incorrectly before it hung too. I would also set the Device and Bus numbers using MPTN, as well as all other settings, then add the Adapter ID's to protocol.ini. It may also be that these two similar cards will never work together in the same PC. It would be easier and safer for future to buy another NIC, only make sure its a different brand, and chipset. I tend to use the IBM Etherjet cards, as well as the Intel cards now. I also remember there is one SMC card that a lot of people have had problems with in relation to either the card itself, or the drivers. >One other problem I'm having is with DHCP - after the machine boots, ifconfig -lan0 >shows an apparent IP address, but I have no DNS until I go to DHCP and do a >Release Renew - which is obviously quite annoying! Any tips on this? I use Unix ports, as I could never get the OS/2 WSeB versions to work, also, all my network is fixed IP as most are servers. Cheers Ian B Manners 4================================================ From: "Ian Manners" Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:44:15 +1000 (EST) Subject: [os2genau] Software Choice Hi all Anyone got there Convience Pack yet ? I'm going to start asking IBM in the morning, though I'm not sure who to ask, I'm sure I'll figure it out... 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However, I'm in Adelaide!! I think I'm just going to swap out a PCI network card from work today for one of my cards - I think there's an old 10 Mbit D-Link in one of the machines that HOPEFULLY uses a different chipset! Thanks for everyone's suggestions! Regards, Paul. On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:28:54 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote: >Hi Paul, >If you're in Sydney & you get stuck, happy to come around & assist: >If I can't get your hardware to work on OS/2:- you're screwed! >I like Coopers Sparkling Ale. > >-- >Regards, > >Daryl Pilkington > >//// The PC Therapist, Business Computing Integration >O\_/ > OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 > IBM Certified Systems Expert > > email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au > ICQ: 91914134 > Tel: +61-2-8902-1300 > Mob: +61-425-251-300 > Fax: +61-2-9411-3720 > Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au > (120 characters max, send no carriage returns) 7================================================ From: Trevor Clarke Subject: Re: [os2genau] Software Choice Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:52:26 +1000 Its all a mystery to me, but I'm sure the I nternational B rotherhood (of) M agicians will conjure up something for you! > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Manners [SMTP:ianatos2 dot org dot au] > Sent: Wednesday, 18 April 2001 4:44 > To: OS2GenAu > Subject: [os2genau] Software Choice > > Hi all > > Anyone got there Convience Pack yet ? > I'm going to start asking IBM in the morning, though > I'm not sure who to ask, I'm sure I'll figure it out... > > People overseas seem to get 6 monthly CDROM's > so I'm wondering if there are several levels of > Software Choice, or does this only occur if you > get the full Software Support Package from IBM ? > > > > > Cheers > Ian B Manners > Slater & Gordon Solicitors - http://www.slatergordon dot com dot au Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for the delivery of the message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by return email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer does not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of my firm shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. 8================================================ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:25:37 +1000 From: Daryl Pilkington Subject: Re: [os2genau] Problem with multiple Network cards Hi Paul, Won't be back in Adelaide until June, but are you a member of the OS/2 User Group of SA? Behind the Melbourne OS/2 SIG, this is the most active club in Australia. (OK, I was President of OS/2 UGSA for a couple of years, I'm biased). The OS/2 UGSA usually has a hardware meeting once a month, pending demand. Contact the President: "Graham Norton" Paul Smedley wrote: > > Daryl, > Well there's plenty of Cooper's Ale in the fridge - although at the moment it's Pale Ale > not Sparkling! However, I'm in Adelaide!! > > I think I'm just going to swap out a PCI network card from work today for one of my cards > - I think there's an old 10 Mbit D-Link in one of the machines that HOPEFULLY uses a > different chipset! > > Thanks for everyone's suggestions! > > Regards, > > Paul. > SNIP > -- Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au ICQ: 91914134 Tel: +61-2-8902-1300 Mob: +61-425-251-300 Fax: +61-2-9411-3720 Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (120 characters max, send no carriage returns) 9================================================ From: "John Angelico" Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:03:12 +0900 (EST) Subject: [os2genau] Multiple-Fwd: eCS NewsCast: Temporarily until I can get a direct feed, here's a reposting of the eCS NewsCast Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au ____________________________________________ ==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGES================= > SBLive 0.70 This is an unofficial release of the driver for the Creative SoundBlaster Live audio card which solves a conflict with USB adapters that claim exclusive access for an IRQ that is required by the soundcard by simply not loading the driver. 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Armin Schwarz Lone Peak Automation, LLC LPAInfoatworldnet.att dot net http://home.att dot net/~ASchw Submitted by: Armin Schwarz ===================END FORWARDED MESSAGES================== 10================================================ From: "Paul Smedley" Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:40:26 +1100 Subject: Re: [os2genau] Problem with multiple Network cards As a followup to my own post from this morning, I found a 10 Mbit card based on the Realtek 8029 chipset today, and have managed to get the Realtek and the SMC card to happily coexist. Injoy Firewall is now running so I'm back in business! Thanks for everyone's suggestions! Regards, Paul. On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:27:10 +1100, Paul Smedley wrote: >I think I'm just going to swap out a PCI network card from work today for one of my cards >- I think there's an old 10 Mbit D-Link in one of the machines that HOPEFULLY uses a >different chipset! > >Thanks for everyone's suggestions! > >On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:28:54 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote: > >>Hi Paul, >>If you're in Sydney & you get stuck, happy to come around & assist: >>If I can't get your hardware to work on OS/2:- you're screwed! >>I like Coopers Sparkling Ale. >> >>-- >>Regards, >> >>Daryl Pilkington >> >>//// The PC Therapist, Business Computing Integration >>O>\_/ >> OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 >> IBM Certified Systems Expert >> >> email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au >> ICQ: 91914134 >> Tel: +61-2-8902-1300 >> Mob: +61-425-251-300 >> Fax: +61-2-9411-3720 >> Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au >> (120 characters max, send no carriage returns) 11================================================ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:47:10 -0500 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] Fwd: Problem with multiple Network cards Sorry Paul, I use one Kingston and one IBM card, although I have had up to 4 INTEL AT cards working together before. I think Daryl has used accton cards, perhaps he can/has help(ed). Ed Durrant. Paul Smedley wrote: > Hi Everyone, > Well I finally got cable internet installed today - WOOHOO! EXCEPT that I'm having a > problem getting two network cards to co-exist in OS/2. Of course, both network cards > work fine in Windows. > 12================================================ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:58:54 -0500 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] Fwd: Problem with multiple Network cards Is your LAN0 pointing to the Telstra cable ? If so, DHCP client on OS/2 should pick up all the info, but it doesn't harm to manually configure the Telstra DNSes and domain at: domain nsw.bigpond dot net dot au nameserver 61.9.192.13 nameserver 61.9.192.16 nameserver 24.192.1.30 Cheers, Ed. > > >> One other problem I'm having is with DHCP - after the machine boots, ifconfig -lan0 >> shows an apparent IP address, but I have no DNS until I go to DHCP and do a >> Release Renew - which is obviously quite annoying! Any tips on this? 13================================================ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:03:29 +1000 From: Daryl Pilkington Subject: Re: [os2genau] Problem with multiple Network cards Hi Paul, I'd be interested in how you go with a Realtek 8029 chipset NIC. I've found the performance of these cards is woeful, but the card may not be the limiting factor in your gateway application. What hardware are you putting InJoy firewall on? I'm about to change my gateway to a lesser box, Celeron 433MHz->486DX2-66, so it will be interesting to see if there is a performance difference. Paul Smedley wrote: > > As a followup to my own post from this morning, I found a 10 Mbit card based on the > Realtek 8029 chipset today, and have managed to get the Realtek and the SMC card > to happily coexist. Injoy Firewall is now running so I'm back in business! > > Thanks for everyone's suggestions! > > Regards, > > Paul. > SNIP > -- Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au ICQ: 91914134 Tel: +61-2-8902-1300 Mob: +61-425-251-300 Fax: +61-2-9411-3720 Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (120 characters max, send no carriage returns) 14================================================ From: "Paul Smedley" Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:59:20 +1100 Subject: Re: [os2genau] Problem with multiple Network cards Daryl, Well at this stage I'm tending to agree with you about the Realtek 8029 chipset NIC. Performance of the cable internet when routed through this card is terrible. IRC DCC lucky to hit 5k/s, web pages slow, ftp's don't work. Maybe I'll try the D-Link driver for the card instead of the generic Realtek driver and see how I go. This machine (the one Injoy Firewall is going on) is a Cyrix 6x86-P200+ with 128mb RAM that is also sometimes used as a workstation. The text based firewall didn't seem to have a major performance hit. Regards, Paul. On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:03:29 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote: >Hi Paul, >I'd be interested in how you go with a Realtek 8029 chipset NIC. >I've found the performance of these cards is woeful, but the card may >not be the limiting factor in your gateway application. > >What hardware are you putting InJoy firewall on? >I'm about to change my gateway to a lesser box, Celeron >433MHz->486DX2-66, so it will be interesting to see if there is a >performance difference. > >Paul Smedley wrote: >> >> As a followup to my own post from this morning, I found a 10 Mbit card based on the >> Realtek 8029 chipset today, and have managed to get the Realtek and the SMC card >> to happily coexist. Injoy Firewall is now running so I'm back in business! >> >> Thanks for everyone's suggestions! >> >> Regards, >> >> Paul. >> >SNIP >> >-- >Regards, > >Daryl Pilkington > >//// The PC Therapist, Business Computing Integration >O\_/ > OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 > IBM Certified Systems Expert > > email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au > ICQ: 91914134 > Tel: +61-2-8902-1300 > Mob: +61-425-251-300 > Fax: +61-2-9411-3720 > Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au > (120 characters max, send no carriage returns) 15================================================ From: "Ian Manners" Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:46:26 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: [os2genau] Problem with multiple Network cards Hi Daryl >I'd be interested in how you go with a Realtek 8029 chipset NIC. >I've found the performance of these cards is woeful, but the card may >not be the limiting factor in your gateway application. Realtek 8029 is more than fast enough for a standard gateway, not the best or fastest 10Mb card around but more than adaquate for a gateway. >What hardware are you putting InJoy firewall on? >I'm about to change my gateway to a lesser box, Celeron >433MHz->486DX2-66, so it will be interesting to see if there is a >performance difference. Remember to run InJoy Firewall in text mode, beats the hell out of using that GUI, which is the main CPU sucker. The GUI still ran fine for me though, just less RC5DES blocks got crunched. If you need a hand with Filters and Rules, let us all know :-) Cheers Ian B Manners 16================================================ From: "Paul Smedley" Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:46:39 +1100 Subject: Re: [os2genau] Problem with multiple Network cards G'day Ian, On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:46:26 +1000 (EST), Ian Manners wrote: >>I'd be interested in how you go with a Realtek 8029 chipset NIC. >>I've found the performance of these cards is woeful, but the card may >>not be the limiting factor in your gateway application. > >Realtek 8029 is more than fast enough for a standard gateway, >not the best or fastest 10Mb card around but more than adaquate >for a gateway. As per my previous post - I too found the OS/2 performance of the 8029 pretty ordinary. For the time being I've swapped the purposes of the two cards over. ie using the SMC 10/100 card with the Cable modem (Yes a waste - I know) and the 8029 on the LAN and we'll see how that goes. I'll do some benchmarking tomorrow and see if the 8029 handles that any better. In the meantime, I'll try and seek out a 10/100 NIC with a non-Realtek 8139 chipset - anyone have a spare they want to swap for an Accton Realtek based card??? :) Regards, Paul. END================================================