Return-Path: Received: from g4 dot comkal dot net (g4 dot comkal dot net [192.168.1.22]) by mail. (Weasel v1.20) for ; 02 May 2001 01:00:00 From: "Digest" To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 01:00:00 +1000 (EDT) Reply-To: "OS2GenAu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: CASMailer 1.0 for OS/2 Warp PPC 1.05/G4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: No. 47 Message-ID: <200105010200.000029G6atmail.> Date:- 02 May 2001 1================================================ From: "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 16:33:21 +1100 (EDT) Subject: [os2genau] Printing I am having recent problems with printing faxes from PMFax (LAN ) for OS2. Printing is to a network HP2100TN (TCPIP) and usually (although not always! - dont you just hate it when the problem is not entirely predicatable!!?) it prints the first page and not the others.! we then go into the Fax log and open it and print it again from the PM Fax window and it seems to work! any suggestions? Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist Smart Road Specialist Centre Modbury SA 5092 61 8 8265 4022 (Voice) 61 8 8386 1795 (Fax) gnatsmart-road dot com dot au 2================================================ From: "Steve Edmonds" Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 09:45:26 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [os2genau] archiving Hi, I use zip to archive files with cron for os/2. It tends to fail at a locked file, I once used arj but can't recall the locked file result. Any suggestions, skipping the locked file would be preferable to failing an archive. steve _______________ Steve Edmonds Steve71atattglobal dot net 3================================================ Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 10:02:58 +1000 From: Daryl Pilkington Subject: Re: [os2genau] Printing Hi Graham, I suspect a FixPak problem with the PC printing the fax. Is it your server that prints? Could you email me a syslevel of the printing PC. The other thing to try is printing to the other HP2100TN you have, it *could* be a printer problem, but unlikely. Run for a week-or-so with the other printer & see if the fault still occurs. Look forward to the syslevel file. Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote: > > I am having recent problems with printing faxes from PMFax (LAN ) for OS2. > Printing is to a network HP2100TN (TCPIP) and usually (although not always! - > dont you just hate it when the problem is not entirely predicatable!!?) it prints the > first page and not the others.! > > we then go into the Fax log and open it and print it again from the PM Fax window > and it seems to work! > > any suggestions? > Graham Norton FRACP > Neurologist > -- Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au ICQ: 91914134 Tel: +61-2-8902-1300 Mob: +61-425-251-300 Fax: +61-2-9411-3720 Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (120 characters max, send no carriage returns) 4================================================ From: "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 12:40:00 +1100 (EDT) Subject: Re: [os2genau] Printing Daryk the PMfax LAN is on the server and this prints all received faxes to the Network HP 2100TN . The server is to the best of my knowledge and using the Indelible Blue Warp Serer WarpUP CD of Jan 2001, at current fixes.... including TCPIP 4.3 from SWC. tried the other printer and it does the same thing again regularly but not always but mostly!! If you get my drift!? On Tue, 01 May 2001 10:02:58 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote: >Hi Graham, >I suspect a FixPak problem with the PC printing the fax. >Is it your server that prints? >Could you email me a syslevel of the printing PC. > >The other thing to try is printing to the other HP2100TN you have, it >*could* be a printer problem, but unlikely. > >Run for a week-or-so with the other printer & see if the fault still >occurs. > >Look forward to the syslevel file. > >Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote: >> >> I am having recent problems with printing faxes from PMFax (LAN ) for OS2. >> Printing is to a network HP2100TN (TCPIP) and usually (although not always! - >> dont you just hate it when the problem is not entirely predicatable!!?) it prints the >> first page and not the others.! >> >> we then go into the Fax log and open it and print it again from the PM Fax window >> and it seems to work! >> >> any suggestions? >> Graham Norton FRACP >> Neurologist >> >-- >Regards, > >Daryl Pilkington > >//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration >O\_/ > OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 > IBM Certified Systems Expert > > email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au > ICQ: 91914134 > Tel: +61-2-8902-1300 > Mob: +61-425-251-300 > Fax: +61-2-9411-3720 > Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au > (120 characters max, send no carriage returns) Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist Smart Road Specialist Centre Modbury SA 5092 61 8 8265 4022 (Voice) 61 8 8386 1795 (Fax) gnatsmart-road dot com dot au 5================================================ Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 14:11:02 +1000 From: Daryl Pilkington Subject: Re: [os2genau] Printing Hi Graham, OK, don't think it is a printer issue, . No slur on Duane from Indelible Blue, (Smart Guy, met him at WarpTech 2000), but I don't know what is on the Jan 2001 WarpUP CD & even if I did, I have no guarantee of what FixPaks were actually installed on your server. It could even be a hiccup with PMfax, but lets discount the lprportd issue, 1st. Are you using lprportd for or the HP JetAdmin software for printing? The problem is likely to be a TCP/IP application FixPak issue. I really need your syslevel output to help you further. Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote: > > Daryk > > the PMfax LAN is on the server and this prints all received faxes to the Network HP > 2100TN . > > The server is to the best of my knowledge and using the Indelible Blue Warp Serer > WarpUP CD of Jan 2001, at current fixes.... including TCPIP 4.3 from SWC. > > tried the other printer and it does the same thing again regularly but not always but > mostly!! If you get my drift!? > -- Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au ICQ: 91914134 Tel: +61-2-8902-1300 Mob: +61-425-251-300 Fax: +61-2-9411-3720 Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (120 characters max, send no carriage returns) 6================================================ From: datablitzatoptusnet dot com dot au Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:27:54 +1100 Subject: Re: [os2genau] Netscape dropping support for 4.61 In <3AEBEE81.E757C5B0athome.dialix dot com>, on 04/29/2001 at 08:35 PM, Daryl Pilkington said: "Curl" retrieves urls etc without using a browser. It allows you to fool the server by telling it whatever agent (browser) you want. However, I don't know if anyone has managed to create a version that is https enabled for OS2. I think the site is www.curl.haxx.se >G'day from the Coat-Hanger City, >St George Bank is claiming Netscape are dropping support of 4.61 from 24 >April 2001. >St George, in a knee-jerk reaction have coded their Internet Banking not >to accept anything lower than 4.74. >I'm wondering if the other Banks will follow. Currently, Adelaide & ANZ >Bank still work with 4.61. >Could people using other Banks check Internet Banking is still working & >report on their bank's functional statua on these ListServs if they stop >working in the future. >No Bank in Australia currently supports Internet Banking on 6.00 Has >anyone got Mozilla or the IBM Browser to work with Internet Banking in >Australia? >How do you make 4.61 "think" it is 4.74? >Can you make the IBM Browser think it is 4.74? -- ----------------------------------------------------------- datablitzatoptusnet dot com dot au ----------------------------------------------------------- 7================================================ From: "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 17:13:51 +1100 (EDT) Subject: Re: [os2genau] Printing On Tue, 01 May 2001 14:11:02 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote: > >Are you using lprportd for or the HP JetAdmin software for printing? I am using the HP Jet Admin and I suspect that it would be better to use lprportd! If so how do I set this up? remind me how to do a syslevel print out! Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist Smart Road Specialist Centre Modbury SA 5092 61 8 8265 4022 (Voice) 61 8 8386 1795 (Fax) gnatsmart-road dot com dot au 8================================================ Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:05:53 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] archiving If you have enough room you could perhaps use scopy to copy what you want to backup to nother area (scopy copies open files) and then do your zip from there. Ed. Steve Edmonds wrote: > > Hi, > I use zip to archive files with cron for os/2. > It tends to fail at a locked file, I once used arj but can't > recall the locked file result. > Any suggestions, skipping the locked file would be preferable to > failing an archive. > > steve > _______________ > Steve Edmonds > Steve71atattglobal dot net 9================================================ Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:10:26 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] Printing Graham really !! Syslevel listing ...... at command prompt Syslevel filename.txt (enter) Ed. Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote: > > On Tue, 01 May 2001 14:11:02 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote: > > > > >Are you using lprportd for or the HP JetAdmin software for printing? > > I am using the HP Jet Admin and I suspect that it would be better to use lprportd! If > so how do I set this up? > > remind me how to do a syslevel print out! > Graham Norton FRACP > Neurologist > > Smart Road Specialist Centre > Modbury SA 5092 > > 61 8 8265 4022 (Voice) > 61 8 8386 1795 (Fax) > gnatsmart-road dot com dot au 10================================================ Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:09:56 +1000 From: Daryl Pilkington Subject: Re: [os2genau] Printing Hi Graham, At an OS/2 command prompt: syslevel >syslevel.txt Then email me the file syslevel.txt Please do this before we get you setup using lprportd. I could do screen shots for setting-up lprportd, but it would be quicker to talk you through it on the phone. You can ring me anytime Wednesday & I'll talk you through lprportd setup. Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist wrote: > > On Tue, 01 May 2001 14:11:02 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote: > > > > >Are you using lprportd for or the HP JetAdmin software for printing? > > I am using the HP Jet Admin and I suspect that it would be better to use lprportd! If > so how do I set this up? > > remind me how to do a syslevel print out! > Graham Norton FRACP > Neurologist > -- Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au ICQ: 91914134 Tel: +61-2-8902-1300 Mob: +61-425-251-300 Fax: +61-2-9411-3720 Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (120 characters max, send no carriage returns) 11================================================ Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:35:33 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: [os2genau] SCOPY program for OS/2 Forgot to say you can get scopy.exe to read open OS/2 files from http://www.os2 dot com/download/util.html (Note it's not the scopy/2 program which is an archiver) but actually scopy.zip and it's description states it copies open files. I used to use it back in OS/2 2.x days to copy OS2.INI. Ed. 12================================================ Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:37:06 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] Printing I think it's time for me to buy a new keybord, this ones dropping chracters (and I don't type that quick) Daryl gave you the correct format though syslevel>filename.txt (enter) Ed P.S. Colins Howto page at http://www.haynes97.freeserve.co.uk Has a good description regarding how to set up LPR. Ed Durrant wrote: > > Graham really !! > > Syslevel listing ...... > > at command prompt > > Syslevel filename.txt (enter) > 13================================================ From: "Steve Edmonds" Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 01:10:31 +1100 (EDT) Subject: Re: [os2genau] SCOPY program for OS/2 Thanks Ed, steve Tue, 01 May 2001 21:35:33 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote: >Forgot to say you can get scopy.exe to read open OS/2 files from > >http://www.os2 dot com/download/util.html _______________ Steve Edmonds Steve71atattglobal dot net 14================================================ Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 23:33:56 +1000 From: David Halprin Subject: [os2genau] Computer Chip Information Hi Guys Even though this is not OS/2, you may enjoy the read anyways. It's not science fiction; you can check out the source David Halprin ----------------------------------------------------------------- COMPUTER-INFO.WPD Subject: Fwd: Very interesting stuff Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 10:23:22 +1000 Computers That Improve Themselves --------------------------------- At first glance, Darwin's ideas on evolution don't seem to have much to do with computers. But if a line of computer code doesn't remind you at least vaguely of a chromosome -- both are essentially stored information -- you might want to look into the new field of evolvable hardware, where chips redesign themselves for optimum efficiency. This is evolution with a silicon flair. Hot ideas come and go, but I know of no technology more likely to reshape our relationship with computers than this one. A computer that evolves may redesign itself in such a way that even its inventors don't know how it's functioning. They just know that it works better than ever before, and future generations may work even better. Something like this has already happened in the laboratory of Adrian Thompson at the University of Sussex in England. There, at the Center for Computational Neuroscience and Robotics, Thompson has spent the past four years working with computer chips that mutate. Chips can manipulate their own logic gates within nanoseconds, try the new design, and choose the configurations that work the best. All of this takes place not in software but hardware. The chips are called Field Programmable Gate Arrays (FPGA). The ones Thompson uses come from San Jose chip-maker Xilinx. The transistors of the chip appear as an array of "logic cells," which can be changed in value and connected to any other cell on the fly. By reprogramming a chip's memory, its logic cells can be tuned for any task at hand. The work draws on the insights of Hugo de Garis, a computer scientist now working in Brussels, Belgium, who spent several years building neural modules -- software units that could be assembled to create artificial nervous systems. About that project, de Garis, sounding almost like a biologist, said: "I was very conscious of the idea of using bit strings as codable mutatable instructions ('chromosomes') in evolutionary algorithms." Let's untangle this. An algorithm is a way of getting something done through computer code, something our PCs do every time we run a program. But an evolutionary algorithm (also called a "genetic" algorithm) is different. It generates slight variations to its own code and then puts these changes through a series of mutations to see what works best. Couple evolutionary algorithms with an FPGA and amazing things happen. You can run through thousands of generations quickly with this technology, saving code that works well, rejecting ideas that don't contribute and breeding in mutations to keep the mix dynamic. At Sussex, Adrian Thompson evolved a circuit that could distinguish between two different audio tones. It took more than 4,000 generations of algorithm evolution and roughly two weeks of computer time and produced results that were, well, strange. Thompson's chip was doing its work preternaturally well. But how? Out of 100 logic cells he had assigned to the task, only a third seemed to be critical to the circuit's work. In other words, the circuit was more efficient by a huge order of magnitude than a similar circuit designed by humans using known principles. And get this: Evolution had left five logic cells unconnected to the rest of the circuit, in a position where they should not have been able to influence its workings. Yet if Thompson disconnected them, the circuit failed. Evidently the chip had evolved a way to use the electromagnetic properties of a signal in a nearby cell. But the fact is that Thompson doesn't know how it works. And that's the weird promise of using computers that evolve. These algorithms take us into an era where accepted design rules break down, where components get smaller and the properties of materials are only sketchily understood. At this level, pushing into the realm of nanotechnology, it may take evolutionary algorithms to work out their own best practice because we don't know how to proceed ourselves. Imagine the philosophical problem this creates. What if you build a critical system for, say, a nuclear power plant. It works and works well, but you don't know how to explain it. Can you implement it? Can you rely on it? If this sounds theoretical, consider that NASA's Langley Research Center has just announced that it is buying a HAL hypercomputer from Star Bridge Systems of Midvale, Utah. This computer is no larger than a regular desktop machine, yet it's roughly 1,000 times faster than traditional commercial systems because it uses Field Programmable Gate Arrays like those Thomson used in his work. Surely the name HAL of 2001 fame is no coincidence. HAL, after all, was the machine that could think almost as well as a person, certainly well enough to threaten the entire crew he was in charge of. And though a Star Bridge hypercomputer might not be conscious in any sense we would recognize, it's able to use an operating system called Viva to continually reconfigure itself, adapting specifically to deal with computing situations it's handed. We're just exploring the possibilities of evolutionary algorithms, but already applications are apparent in areas such as image recognition, in which a PC might continually refine its methods of identifying what it sees, leading to machines that can recognize a human face. And evolvable hardware means future computers might be able to upgrade their core circuitry simply by downloading new code. In Japan, Tetsuya Higuchi and his fellow computer scientists at the Electro-Technical Laboratory are using genetic algorithms to build analog circuit components that will go into new cellular telephones. Adaptive hardware is also being studied at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., to create adaptive sensors for spacecraft. Evolvable computers aren't yet front-page stuff, but I think they will take us in directions too potent to ignore. http://www.newsobserver dot com/monday/business/Story/419010p-414835c.html Written by Paul Gilster. You can also check out the Centre for Computational Neuroscience and Robotics - at http://www.cogs.susx.ac.uk/ccnr/ 15================================================ Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 15:16:38 +0200 From: Kris Steenhaut Subject: Re: [os2genau] Printing Ed Durrant schreef: > Graham really !! > > Syslevel listing ...... > > at command prompt > > Syslevel filename.txt (enter) > I take the liberty to add my 2 =80-cents: There is at Hobbes a program. InProTrack, that scans the system and repor= ts all syslevel thingies there are. You can save the info onto a file for reference. Sear= ch at Hobbes for IPT or ipt115. -- Groeten uit Gent, Kris END================================================