Return-Path: Received: from g4 dot comkal dot net (g4 dot comkal dot net [192.168.1.22]) by mail. (Weasel v1.20) for ; 07 May 2001 01:00:00 From: "Digest" To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 01:00:00 +1000 (EDT) Reply-To: "OS2GenAu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: CASMailer 1.0 for OS/2 Warp PPC 1.05/G4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: No. 51 Message-ID: <200105070100.000029G6atmail.> Date:- 07 May 2001 1================================================ Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 14:02:56 +1000 From: Daryl Pilkington Subject: Re: [os2genau] Dial-in access to OS/2 Lan Hi Simon, Interesting task you have presented. Can you run TCPBEUI? That way you solution can be IP based. If you can only run NETBEUI it makes your problem much harder, (and expensive). The Token Ring is not an issue. 5 Concurrent users: You could use the WS4eB PPP server InJoy connect. You will have to organise you telephone carrier to create a rotary hunt arrangement. Remember, if one of you modems latch-up, people dialling into this number will get busy tone, or worse, connect but the link doesn't negotiate, costing them a phone call, (& annoyance). Telstra may have a solution to this problem, but probably not. This will give you a basic PPP server solution:- IP onto your LAN. Now getting LAN server TCPBEUI to work across a PPP interface that is tuned for 33k6 modem is not trivial. A technically more elegant, & reliable solution is InJoy VPN. Probably harder to setup, but is using existing concepts, & no modem pool to fiddle with. Please note this solution means a VPN connection to the Internet. If this an unacceptable risk, see my 1st solution. You install InJoy Firewall with VPN/IPSec. You run a Pluto IKE server that can be seen on the Internet, (needs a live IP address). Your clients dial your preferred ISP that provides good bandwidth & low latency. They use InJoy dialer with IPSec to negotiate an encrypted VPN channel to your intranet. Now getting LAN server TCPBEUI to work across a WAN, tuned for 33k6 modem. Simple isn't? I'm available for professional consulting ;) Simon Coulter wrote: > > M > Hello All, > > I'm looking for suggestions/approaches for hardware/connections/etc to allow > multiple users to dial in to an OS/2 Token Ring Lan. Background information: > > o Token Ring Lan with AS/400 and OS/2 Warp 4 systems > o Require approximately 5 concurrent dial-in users > o User's need Lan access > > What sort of RAS support would I need? > > What sort of communications line would I need? > > Do I need special hardware (e.g., rotary dialer), special Telstra exchange > support? > > Where can I learn more about this sort of thing? > > Any contributions appreciated. 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PPP-Server supports multi port serial cards (The "Rolls-Royce" would be the Artic Card but there are several other cheaper options with OS/2 suport) You'd hang a modem off however many ports you needed. PPP-Server also supports multiport connection via one ISDN connection however ISDN in Australia is expensive !! (Could still be cheaper than 5 new phone lines and charges though). As for In-joy's PPP-Connect capabilities, I think Daryl knows more than I do on that product, however I do know it ONLY handles tcp/ip. Another option is to go for a purpose built box to do the comms gateway. An IBM 8235 or a Shiva box (These both used to be available in Token Ring or Ethernet flavours) or possibly there's something from the likes of D-Link ?? That'd only be Ethernet though, so you have to put a bridge of some sort in as well. Then of course you could look at what you can attach directly into the AS/400 with a link out into the LAN - this would probably be the most expensive route though as it would require an FSIOP or netfinity card in the AS/400 and they aren't cheap ! This could be the most logical way to go if the LAN resources your users need are shared folders and printers attached to the AS/400. Good luck .... Ed. Daryl Pilkington wrote: > > Hi Simon, > Interesting task you have presented. > You could use the WS4eB PPP server InJoy connect. > You will have to organise you telephone carrier to create a rotary hunt > arrangement. 3================================================ Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 23:33:40 +1000 From: Daryl Pilkington Subject: Re: [os2genau] Dial-in access to OS/2 Lan Sorry typo: Should have been: You could use the WS4eB PPP server OR InJoy connect. Ed Durrant wrote: > > Please avoid mixing up PPP Server (IBM) and PPP-Connect (In-Joy). > > PPP-Server supports multi port serial cards (The "Rolls-Royce" would be > the Artic Card but there are several other cheaper options with OS/2 > suport) You'd hang a modem off however many ports you needed. > PPP-Server also supports multiport connection via one ISDN connection > however ISDN in Australia is expensive !! (Could still be cheaper than > 5 new phone lines and charges though). > > As for In-joy's PPP-Connect capabilities, I think Daryl knows more than > I do on that product, however I do know it ONLY handles tcp/ip. > > Another option is to go for a purpose built box to do the comms gateway. > An IBM 8235 or a Shiva box (These both used to be available in Token > Ring or Ethernet flavours) or possibly there's something from the likes > of > D-Link ?? That'd only be Ethernet though, so you have to put a bridge > of some sort in as well. > > Then of course you could look at what you can attach directly into > the AS/400 with a link out into the LAN - this would probably be the > most expensive route though as it would require an FSIOP or netfinity > card in the AS/400 and they aren't cheap ! This could be the most > logical way to go if the LAN resources your users need are shared > folders and printers attached to the AS/400. > > Good luck .... > > Ed. > > Daryl Pilkington wrote: > > > > Hi Simon, > > Interesting task you have presented. > > You could use the WS4eB PPP server InJoy connect. > > You will have to organise you telephone carrier to create a rotary hunt > > arrangement. -- Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au ICQ: 91914134 Tel: +61-2-8902-1300 Mob: +61-425-251-300 Fax: +61-2-9411-3720 Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (120 characters max, send no carriage returns) END================================================