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(Weasel v1.20) for ; 14 June 2001 01:00:00 From: "Digest" To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 01:00:00 +1000 (EDT) Reply-To: "OS2GenAu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: CASMailer 1.0 for OS/2 Warp PPC 1.05/G4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: No. 88 Message-ID: <200106140100.000029G6atmail.> Date:- 14 June 2001 1================================================ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:58:26 +0200 From: Kris Steenhaut Subject: Re: [os2genau] Epson Stylus 680 problems Alan Duval schreef: > Hi Kris, > > > > Download the latest omni.exe file and unpack it in a temporary directory. > > Then, open > > > the file omni.lst and look what printers are listed there. > > > But don't forget to install the latest print01.sys: > > Where can I download these two files from? > The file omni.lst is a part of the file omni.exe which is available here: ftp://ftp.software.ibm dot com/ps/products/os2/printpak/ And the latest print01.sys with PCI support is available at the regular DD drivers site. > > Haven't seen the HP Deskjet 970C advertised here. A bit surprising, as this HP type is on the market for almost 2 years here. -- Groeten uit Gent, Kris 2============================================= Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:30:00 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] Epson 680 Hi Wendy, Unfortunately, the 680 uses different cartridges to just about ALL other models. I think this is because it's a 2880 DPI printer - the prints at this resolution on glossy paper really ARE photo quality ! As I said - $54 for the replacment black cartridge. We'll see if they are any cheaper at the computer fair on Sunday. Cheers/2 Ed. Leeward Cove Holiday Units wrote: > > Dear Ed > > I've been using an Epson Stylus 640 for some time. I use "Color Jet" > replacement cartridges, and at $20 (black) and $25 (coloured) it's no > big deal to have an extra on hand, and hardly worth the trouble of > refilling, which I used to do on my HP. They are available for the 680 > as well, and may well be cheaper in the city (I live in East Gippsland) > > One advantage of the Epson 640 is that the light flashes when the > cartridge is nearly empty, but it keeps on producing good copies until > the light stays on and it won't print at all. The HP would keep going, > missing lines etc; even more of a nuisance when I was printing a > number of double sided copies and not watching what was going on. > > If all else fails and you have an urgent letter you can always change > the colour to navy blue or charcoal grey and the colour cartridge will > print it. > > One of our sons uses the Canon which Alan mentioned with the separate > colour cartridges. He does a lot of colour printing and finds replacing > the colours as he uses them saves him money, otherwise he would use the > corresponding Epson version. > > Wendy Podger 3============================================= From: Trevor Clarke Subject: [os2genau] eComStation - Hosting other OS's Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:11:11 +1000 Peoples, I'm not sure if I'm being a stick in the mud as this all seems a fair way off, but there may be a problem with ODIN and/or any hardware based support (e.g. Freedom card) support for Win32 apps in Ecs. I'm not talking a technical problem, but doesn't the MS EULA for Office state that you must be a licenced user of Windoze? I could be wrong about that, and I querey whether this is enforceable in any event. But it was just something that bugged me... 4============================================= From: "VanEps, Brad" Subject: Re: [os2genau] samba Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:18:05 +1000 G'Day, > Does anybody actually use samba? I've used it in production environments on both Solaris and OpenVMS servers to allow Windoze PC's to access files related to database services provided by those servers. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Brad van Eps, B.Eng Systems/Database Administrator Information Services Royal Automobile Club of Queensland 2649 Logan Rd, Eight Mile Plains, QLD 4113 Ph: (07)3361 2876 Fax: (07)3841 1048 E-mail: bvanepsatracq dot com dot au OS/2 WARPed for REAL Power! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Please Note: This communication has been sent on behalf of The Royal Automobile Club of Queensland Limited (RACQ). The information contained in this communication may be privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this communication is expressly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. RACQ and its associated entities do not warrant or represent that this communication (including any enclosed files) is free from electronic viruses, faults or defects. 5============================================= From: "John Angelico" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:29:13 +0900 (EST) Subject: [os2genau] Melbourne OS/2 SIG eCS Install Fest delayed :( Hello everyone! A short note to tell you some good news and some bad news! I have had an email from Mark Rogers to say that a) he has GA code as of now (hooray!!) b) but it will take a while to burn the CDs so can we defer the install fest by one week to the 23rd (boo! but with a) I have asked the MelbPC office if the 23rd is still OK and am awaiting their confirmation. Please plan for the 23rd if you can (it's actually good news for me - I can be there!) and I will confirm as soon as I know from the Office (both on this list and on the VoiceNews broadcast). Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au -------------------------------------------- PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... All computers wait at the same speed - 60 seconds per minute :) 6============================================= Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:01:00 +1000 From: Daryl Pilkington Subject: Re: [os2genau] samba Hi All, Samba is much better & secure than NFS. Also file-locking is much better. If a Windoze box will talk to it using SMB technology, so should an OS/2 box running LAN Requester or PEER. Note of course, you must be running TCPBEUI network protocol:- no big deal. I'm not sure if the Linux Samba team have duplicated the function of a Primary Domain Controller yet:- but it is close. I am much more comfortable making a Warp Server box run than a Samba, but that it not to say it is inferior. OS/2 might be Queen on the Desktop & WS4eB is an excellent server OS, but so is Linux running Samba. -- Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au ICQ: 91914134 Tel: +61-2-8902-1300 Mob: +61-425-251-300 Fax: +61-2-9411-3720 Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (120 characters max, send no carriage returns) 7============================================= From: "Michael Block" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:11:59 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: [os2genau] eComStation - Hosting other OS's On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:11:11 +1000, Trevor Clarke wrote: >Peoples, > >I'm not sure if I'm being a stick in the mud as this all seems a fair way >off, but there may be a problem with ODIN and/or any hardware based support >(e.g. Freedom card) support for Win32 apps in Ecs. I'm not talking a >technical problem, but doesn't the MS EULA for Office state that you must be >a licenced user of Windoze? I could be wrong about that, and I querey >whether this is enforceable in any event. But it was just something that >bugged me... > well I suppose you can still be a licenced user of windows but run it under Odin/OS/2, or does the EULA say that you must run it under the latest and greatest version of windows? regards Michael Block ---------------------------> Caca et declina medicus http://members.optushome dot com dot au/mblock/perinatal.html The www home of perinatal psychiatry 8============================================= Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:44:35 +1000 From: Daryl Pilkington Subject: [os2genau] http file downloads using Netscape Hi, Has anyone had problems D/L files from Web-Servers using Netscape & http protocol? Using wget seems OK. The Web-Server says its running: Server: Apache/1.3.19 (Unix) (Terra 2.0) -- Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au ICQ: 91914134 Tel: +61-2-8902-1300 Mob: +61-425-251-300 Fax: +61-2-9411-3720 Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (120 characters max, send no carriage returns) 9============================================= From: "Ian Manners" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:24:44 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: [os2genau] eComStation - Hosting other OS's Hi Trevor >I'm not sure if I'm being a stick in the mud as this all seems a fair way >off, but there may be a problem with ODIN and/or any hardware based support >(e.g. Freedom card) support for Win32 apps in Ecs. I'm not talking a >technical problem, but doesn't the MS EULA for Office state that you must be >a licenced user of Windoze? I could be wrong about that, and I querey >whether this is enforceable in any event. But it was just something that >bugged me... Most people do , as anyone that buys a computer through legal channels has already got Windows due to the OEM contract Microsoft forces resellers, distributors, and manufacturers to sign. I think the pivotal issue leads back to two matters. 1) It is illegal to say you need Product A before you can have Product B, ie, you can legally buy car parts, though you don't own the car they are, or could be, a part of. Some American states have some strange ideas of "freedom", and Interpretation. A bit like the Family Law Court is in theory "Federal" but in reality, Western Australias "interpretation" of these laws leave a lot to be desired. Even if it was legal, the license is only enforcable in select countries. (any weapons owners here, will know this doesn't apply to them depending on what state they are in) I believe that parts of the Microsoft license are NOT enforcable in Australia, as local laws overrule select parts anyway. 2) Odin was built by discovering API's and other interfaces, then ODIN was slowly built to be able to use these API's, this way ODIN is not breaking any laws. But Microsoft wants to remove the people, and perceived loss of sales, by rewording their licenses to give the impression that people are breaking the law, when in reality they are not. Cheers Ian B Manners 10============================================= Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:40:24 +1000 From: Daryl Pilkington Subject: Re: [os2genau] samba Just heard back from the Linux Guys. Have a look at the OS2_client.txt file in the textdocs directory of your samba distributions documentation. It can replace a PDC & a BDC is on the way! There is even a samba client for OS/2! However, don't know how well it is integrated into the WPS. Steve Edmonds wrote: > > Hi, > can someone tell me the state of the play with warp4 and samba. > Last I heard there was a little trouble with netbios over tcp/ip > and a fix was to be compiled into samba. > Is it yet as easy as attaching a win box to samba. > > steve > _______________ > Steve Edmonds > Steve71atattglobal dot net -- Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au ICQ: 91914134 Tel: +61-2-8902-1300 Mob: +61-425-251-300 Fax: +61-2-9411-3720 Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (120 characters max, send no carriage returns) 11============================================= From: "John Angelico" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:57:30 +0900 (EST) Subject: Re: [os2genau] Melbourne OS/2 SIG eCS Install Fest delayed :( On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:29:13 +0900 (EST), John Angelico wrote: Hi all! Confirmed that June 23rd is OK. So Install-Fest Lives On! Please could I ask those who are coming and who have already ordered and paid for their copy/ies of eCS, to let me know again if ytou are coming so I can inform Mark Rogers. Sorry to do this all over again, but I think it will be the cleanest approach. A modified form of this message will be going out to VoiceNews soon. Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au ____________________________________________ 12============================================= From: "Gavin Miller" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:10:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [os2genau] A hardware point Hi Ed, I'm glad to get some perspective on this issue. I did not know about the Win98 standard and that ME, NT & 2000 were also subject to some hardware issues. I just assumed that hardware companies would develop blindly because of the Microsoft lable. I am not a conformest, never have been, never will be. I guess it's the artist in me, so I'd still like to be able to grab a scanner or CD burner with out the hassel of having to order a specific brand and model that is supported through a third party driver. Oh well. Thanx buddy. Cheers 13============================================= From: "Gavin Miller" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:17:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [os2genau] Sierra's AGI Hey Ian, You know, you're absolutely right. Perhaps I will, then I can do other things for our OS as well. My last programming experience was Turbo Pascal v1 on DOS at school (that was a while ago :-) ). I do have TP 5.5, but haven't done well.... ANYTHING with it. Cheers 14============================================= Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:44:41 +0830 From: Leigh Bunting Subject: [os2genau] Pentium III Hi All, Anyone on the list have any experience at disassembling the fan and backing plate from a Slot 1 PIII CPU. I could find only a dead link about it on a web search. I think I know how, but I would be happy for any advice before I try, and before I get to any possible "Oh-Oh!! I shouldn't have done it that way" situation. I want to add a more grunty cooler to my PIII/550 so I can try overbussing it higher than the 645 it is running at the moment. Thanks for any help, Leigh Bunting Colonel Light Gardens South Australia Find out more about Col. Light Gdns. here - http://www.chariot dot net dot au/~pknight/clghs/ 15============================================= From: "Ian Manners" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:36:01 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: [os2genau] Sierra's AGI Hi Gavin >You know, you're absolutely right. Perhaps I will, then I can do other things for our OS as well. If you need a hand, I can direct you to the required GCC and other files, there is also the unixos2 list which is either found via our list page below, or I can email you privately. Cheers Ian B Manners 16============================================= From: "Ian Manners" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:46:52 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: [os2genau] Pentium III Hi Leigh >Anyone on the list have any experience at disassembling the fan and >backing plate from a Slot 1 PIII CPU. I can help you out with this, or Daryl maybe able to as well. It's better with pictures,if I can find some, I'll email you these privately in about 45 minutes after my dinner :-) First though, make sure you have the correct replacement heatsink arrangement, I have on one occasion ordered some fridge coolers and got the ones for the early PII's, which dont fit PIII's no matter what you do. The secret is in the 4 recessed holes on the back of the CPU, these are secured using plastic barbs, which if you have an appropriatly sized metal PCB standoff, you can sqeeze the small metal tube over these and then jimmy off with a small flat blade screw driver. Failing that, cut off the excess with some small snips, or cautiously with a sharp knife as close to the base of the barbs, then use the tip of a soldering iron to melt the rest while appling light force so it slips through the securing hole, one at a time. >I want to add a more grunty cooler to my PIII/550 so I can try >overbussing it higher than the 645 it is running at the moment. If you are over bussing it by 30% and it works, I wouldnt attempt going any higher, best long term stability is about 20%. Be warned, a lot of CPU fridge units have cheap fans that can fail after 12 months of use, resulting in the dialectric exploding, and possibly damaging the M/B, and/or CPU. I like IBM's way of not using CPU fans but bloody big heatsinks, with a standard 5 or 7cm bearing fan on the case blowing air through the heatsink fins. My main Netfinity here also has a fan infront of the main HD bays, so the unit has a total of 4 fans :-) Cheers Ian B Manners 17============================================= From: "John Angelico" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:03:59 +0900 (EST) Subject: [os2genau] Melbourne PC SIG Web Site Howdy all! As a part of getting the notice out regarding the revised eCS Install Fest, No 1 son Michael and I have quickly modified the old Melb OS/2 SIG web site and Ian Manners has put it up for all the (internet) world to see at http://www./melbpc/ Why not go have a sticky-beek eh? Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au -------------------------------------------- PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... Falling asleep at the keyboard is called a head crash. 18============================================= From: "Steve Edmonds" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:07:30 +1100 (EDT) Subject: Re: [os2genau] samba Hi. On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:01:00 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote: >I'm not sure if the Linux Samba team have duplicated the function of a >Primary Domain Controller yet:- but it is close. I believe so. >I am much more comfortable making a Warp Server box run than a Samba, >but that it not to say it is inferior. Samba and win boxes easy, just works. Administration of a warp server box is far easier and more flexible. I struggled with warp and samba a few years ago and wondered if things had improved. >OS/2 might be Queen on the Desktop & WS4eB is an excellent server OS, >but so is Linux running Samba. It would be interesting to see performance comparisons of a loaded server. Warp server is very good. steve _______________ Steve Edmonds Steve71atattglobal dot net 19============================================= From: "Steve Edmonds" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:12:24 +1100 (EDT) Subject: Re: [os2genau] eComStation - Hosting other OS's We purchase most PC's os free. The os, even if windows, is an add on in most resellers in NZ (unless you go to harvey norman or dick smith). Competetion has driven them to quote os free for minimum pricing. steve On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:24:44 +1000 (EST), Ian Manners wrote: >Most people do , as anyone that buys a computer through legal channels has >already got Windows due to the OEM contract Microsoft forces resellers, distributors, >and manufacturers to sign. _______________ Steve Edmonds Steve71atattglobal dot net 20============================================= Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:53:58 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] eComStation - Hosting other OS's I suppose the next legal question would be if the conditions of sale of a product from Microsoft (or any other manufacturer in that case) are flawed in the eyes of the law, does that make the whole agreement defunct ?? Cheers/2 Ed. Ian Manners wrote: > I believe that parts of the Microsoft license are NOT enforcable > in Australia, as local laws overrule select parts anyway. 21============================================= From: mfarnhamatdingoblue dot net dot au Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:29:34 +1100 Subject: Re: [os2genau] Pentium III In <3B273D10.BE92F225atinternode.on dot net>, on 06/13/01 at 06:44 PM, Leigh Bunting said: >Hi All, >Anyone on the list have any experience at disassembling the fan and >backing plate from a Slot 1 PIII CPU. There was an article in APCmag, in one late last years issues. The article was on overclocking and the authoe was their resident tech head. If I remember correctly it turned out to be a less then simple job with the CPU he had. If can find the article I will post you the issue number. Mark >Thanks for any help, >Leigh Bunting >Colonel Light Gardens >South Australia >Find out more about Col. Light Gdns. here - >http://www.chariot dot net dot au/~pknight/clghs/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- mfarnhamatdingoblue dot net dot au Wednesday, June 13, 2001 - 09:29 PM ----------- "Lord, Grant me the serenity to accept the things that I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I had to kill because they pissed me off." ----------- Mark Farnham Mackay, Queensland, Australia. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22============================================= From: "Ian Manners" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 22:03:08 +1000 (EST) Subject: [os2genau] Melb PC SIG Web Site now up :) >Melb OS/2 SIG web site and Ian Manners has put it up for all the >(internet) world to see at Ummmm, ok, its up now, a long dinner :-) http://www./melbpc/ Cheers Ian B Manners END=============================================