Received: from darkside. (darkside. [210.8.201.180]) by mail. (Weasel v1.20) for ; 08 Sep 2001 01:00:00 From: "Digest" To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 01:00:00 +1000 (EDT) Priority: Normal X-Mailer: CASMailer 1.0 for OS/2 Warp PPC 1.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 159 Message-ID: <200109080100.000029G6atmail.> Reply-To: Date:- 08 September 2001 Please reply to ianatos2site dot com to post to the list. A small problem with the list Digest Mode software replacing email address. 1================================================ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 20:38:47 +0830 From: Leigh Bunting Subject: Re: [os2genau] HTTP downloads Ian Manners wrote: > I still havent figured out why but some people cannot use FTP > to ftp.os2site dot com (also on the bottom menu front page). > > Its not a windows thing either, most OS/2 and Win users get in > ok, some dont. Thanks for that Ian. I have managed to download and install ODIN via ftp-ing the .wpi file from your site. How well it works, I shall find out later. Cheers, Leigh Bunting Colonel Light Gardens South Australia Find out more about Col. Light Gdns. here - http://www.chariot dot net dot au/~pknight/clghs/ 2============================================== Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 19:18:07 +0830 From: Leigh Bunting Subject: Re: [os2genau] Game Hidden in Star Office ! Ed Durrant wrote: > There is a game hidden in the Star Office spreadsheet. Nothing happened in my version 5.1 PE Leigh Bunting Colonel Light Gardens South Australia Find out more about Col. Light Gdns. here - http://www.chariot dot net dot au/~pknight/clghs/ 3============================================== From: "John Angelico" Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 22:51:28 +0800 (WST) Subject: [os2genau] OS/2 SIG Report August meeting Melbourne PC SIG Meeting Report Report Date: 7 Sep 2001 (900 words) Meeting Date: 28 August 2001 Report by: John Angelico (03) 9544 8792 There was movement in the SIG room, for the word had passed around that ... eCS was loose! Yes, members attending our August meeting were mostly seated by 6:30 starting time, reflecting the intense interest in our main topic. Eventually 22 members and guests were present. Latest Headlines Finally eCS has been released in Australia, after considerable delay - though by no means the fault of Orion Solutions. Most people were receiving their copies by post in the week before the meeting. There was quite a bit of discussion on various factors associated with eCS - price, relationship to IBMs Convenience Paks, development etc. We announced that an InstallFest would be scheduled for a Saturday in late September, subject to people (like Mark from Orion Solutions) being available. Basic OS/2 Continuing my series on the "bread & butter" topics of OS/2 for those who wanted to discuss those seemingly simple things that can trip us up in the use of our favourite platform. I covered areas such as Windows support, standard OS/2 utilities (Seek & Scan Tool, the Productivity folder), Customising various functions (eg clock, mouse, keyboard settings for disabled use etc) and Palettes (Launchpad, WarpCenter, Fonts, Colours, Sounds). eCS - One Way To Do It After our break, I resumed with a brief summary of how I had installed eCS on one of my desktop machines. Hardware: Cyrix P166 CPU, 64Mb RAM, 1 IDE hard drive, Symbios SCSI controller, 2 SCSI hard drives, SCSI Fujitsu Magnetic-Optical drive, Tseng ET-6000 video card with 2Mb VRAM, Banksia internal fax/modem, Realtek 10Base-T network card, and HP 6L laser printer. Not the most up to date rig, that's for sure! I had many partitions (C to H) and some odd hardware, so I prepared with plenty of reading both online and offline. I arranged to collect my Registration Key file before the install, and left it in a file on a MO cartridge (not a good move). My plan was to reformat the boot partition and do a clean install as recommended by Serenity Systems and Orion Solutions. I also had some instabilities in my existing setup (five years since a clean install, if I recall) which I did not want to carry forward. I therefore made sure I had a system backup and that my laptop was close by and still capable of a good Internet connection should I get desparate for online assistance. My main concerns which almost led me to a panic revolved around the new Logical Volume Manager (LVM) and the compatibility volumes I needed to create. Therefore I explained to the SIG the understanding I had reached regarding how Volumes relate to Partitions. eCS and the new OS/2 use the LVM because they ONLY recognise Volumes for the storage of files (ie. no longer does the system software deal with partitions). In combination with the new Journaling File System, this allows for easily extensible volumes in the future. Initially, to ensure we retain backward compatibility for all users, LVM allows us to identify a partition (old parlance) with a Compatibility Volume (new parlance), so that all our existing files of data and programs can be seen by eCS without a complete backup and restore. Compatibility Volumes are also essential in a multi-OS machine, to permit continued use of those partitions by their own OSs. This topic generated considerable discussion and improved understanding by all present. Thus, in eCS terms we may have a Boot Manager Volume (usually hidden), a Bootable Volume (for the system to boot from; not a Compatibility Volume), a non-bootable Compatibility Volume for other OSs and existing files and a non-bootable Volume (not compatible, but extensible with the Journaling File System). So far, with limited use of LVM, I understand it to be something like a combination of Partition Magic and the old CheckDisk program. We recommend for now that it be run from the command line rather than the GUI. By choice, I elected to set up my new eCS system by re-creating all my objects manually, since I wanted to make substantial changes to my configuration. Most OS/2 users would want to at least look at the Add Programs utility in the System Setup folder before doing it the long way, as I did. I described some of the traumas I endured because of my haste, and pointed out how these might have been minimised with a little extra care. Most of my applications only required new program objects and associations with their working files. Some required registration codes, and a few I needed to reinstall because the installer created associations and object classes in the system INI files. At this stage only two Windows programs don't function because of some missing Windows DLLs. One is the MS-WordViewer which I have replaced with Lotus Smartsuite in any case. The other is Crystal Reports v6 because I can't successfully reinstall from original media. Official closing time of 9:30pm advanced upon us rapidly so to summarise, I did it the hard way but I knew that before I started. Even with a few hasty decisions, I was able to get myself back into production within 2 working days of what amounts to open heart surgery on my system. --End of Report-- Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au -------------------------------------------- PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... eCS: too powerful to be Windows, too easy to be Unix.