Received: from darkside. (darkside. [210.8.201.180]) by mail. (Weasel v1.20) for ; 22 Sep 2001 01:00:00 From: "Digest" To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 01:00:00 +1000 (EDT) Priority: Normal X-Mailer: CASMailer 1.0 for OS/2 Warp PPC 1.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 167 Message-ID: <200109220100.000029G6atmail.> Reply-To: Date:- 22 September 2001 Please reply to ianatos2site dot com to post to the list. The posting problem will be looked at, and corrected this weekend, this only affects people on the digest list. 1================================================ From: "List Admin" Date: Thu, 20 August 2001 00:00:00 +1000 (EDT) Subject: [os2genau] Reminder - Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 Time: 6:30PM - 9:30PM Place: Melbourne PC Group Victoria, Australia. The Monthly Meeting of Melbourne OS/2 SIG Normally held the fourth Tuesday of each month. 2============================================== From: "Armitage, Neil" Subject: [os2genau] PMFax Pro Upgrade Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:46:19 +1000 Does anyone know of an Australian distributor for PM Fax Pro? I want to upgrade from the Lite version and get the PCL5 printer support. Thanks. Neil Neil Armitage Black Forest, South Australia narmitageatiPrimus dot com dot au 3============================================== From: "Bob Ogden" Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 08:55:24 +0900 Subject: Re: [os2genau] PMFax Pro Upgrade In <1D1A08E56535D111BD0400805F59041A029AD1A5atAUADM100>, on 21/Sep/2001 at 10:46 AM,(+1000 GMT) "Armitage, Neil" said: >Does anyone know of an Australian distributor for PM Fax Pro? I want to >upgrade from the Lite version and get the PCL5 printer support. >Thanks. >Neil Try SBT. Voytek Eymont >Neil Armitage >Black Forest, South Australia >narmitageatiPrimus dot com dot au -- /-- Bob Ogden bobatcontact.omen dot com dot au --------------/ / ---... -....- -.--.- Finger for PGP key -----/ Only 31534153440 seconds till the _next_ millennium! 4============================================== From: "Daryl Pilkington" Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:04:00 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: [os2genau] PMFax Pro Upgrade Hi Neil, Orion Solutions: http://www.orion-solutions dot com dot au Another option would be to install PMPDF to "print" Portable Document Format, (PDF), files. Then view them using GSView & print to the FxPrint printer. It gives the added benefit of being able to send people PDFs which they can read perfectly. Why do you need PCL5 printer support? On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:46:19 +1000, Armitage, Neil wrote: > > >Does anyone know of an Australian distributor for PM Fax Pro? I want to >upgrade from the Lite version and get the PCL5 printer support. > >Thanks. >Neil > > >Neil Armitage >Black Forest, South Australia > >narmitageatiPrimus dot com dot au > Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au ICQ: 91914134 Tel: +61-2-8902-1300 Mob: +61-425-251-300 Fax: +61-2-9411-3720 Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (160 characters max) 5============================================== From: "Armitage, Neil" Subject: Re: [os2genau] PMFax Pro Upgrade Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:27:30 +1000 Why do I need PCL5 support, Daryl? I look after an OS/2 system that receives printer output from an IBM-compatible mainframe via lpd, then requeues it to PM Fax Pro. The mainframe thinks the OS/2 system is a printer. The mainframe has the option of sending PCL or Postscript to it's printers and I would like to turn this on. Currently we only send simple line-printer data via fax but would like to send some of the fancier graphics stuff too. I have an older version of PM Fax Pro, but it only supports PCL3. I need at least PCL4 support (or Postscript). Neil -----Original Message----- From: Daryl Pilkington [mailto:u3232athome.dialix dot com] Sent: Friday, 21 September 2001 10:34 To: os2genauatos2 dot org dot au Subject: Re: [os2genau] PMFax Pro Upgrade Hi Neil, Orion Solutions: http://www.orion-solutions dot com dot au Another option would be to install PMPDF to "print" Portable Document Format, (PDF), files. Then view them using GSView & print to the FxPrint printer. It gives the added benefit of being able to send people PDFs which they can read perfectly. Why do you need PCL5 printer support? On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:46:19 +1000, Armitage, Neil wrote: > > >Does anyone know of an Australian distributor for PM Fax Pro? I want to >upgrade from the Lite version and get the PCL5 printer support. > >Thanks. >Neil > > >Neil Armitage >Black Forest, South Australia > >narmitageatiPrimus dot com dot au Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au ICQ: 91914134 Tel: +61-2-8902-1300 Mob: +61-425-251-300 Fax: +61-2-9411-3720 Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (160 characters max) 6============================================== Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 14:59:40 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: [os2genau] PMFax Pro Upgrade ** Reply to note from "Armitage, Neil" Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:27:30 +1000 > Why do I need PCL5 support, Daryl? > > I look after an OS/2 system that receives printer output from an > IBM-compatible mainframe via lpd, then requeues it to PM Fax Pro. The > mainframe thinks the OS/2 system is a printer. > The mainframe has the option of sending PCL or Postscript to it's printers > and I would like to turn this on. Currently we only send simple > line-printer data via fax but would like to send some of the fancier > graphics stuff too. I have an older version of PM Fax Pro, but it only > supports PCL3. I need at least PCL4 support (or Postscript). > Neil , you should ... perhaps look also at the PMfax's.. oops, mental blank... the language... sorry..., can't think of name, it allows sending ASCII stream to merge with graphics or specify fonts, etc > > On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:46:19 +1000, Armitage, Neil wrote: > > >Does anyone know of an Australian distributor for PM Fax Pro? I want to > >upgrade from the Lite version and get the PCL5 printer support. Neil, yes, we are Voytek Eymont SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/ phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 7============================================== From: "Daryl Pilkington" Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 15:33:52 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: [os2genau] PMFax Pro Upgrade Hi Neil, Thanks for the background, I can answer your Q better now :) I do a similar thing for my W2k boxes to fax, since there is no W2k PMFax client. I've got FaxWorks Pro LAN 3.00.00.ML This is PMFax under a different name. I suspect you have the same version, as mine only supports PCL3. Postscript is probably the way to go, your mainframe would create quite nice-looking PostScript documents. You could setup GhostScript to process the lpd queue which sends it to PMFax which can log all outgoing faxes. It's really just about port redirection. I'm assuming you are already embedding recipient & fax # data in the mainframe output for full automation from mainframe->fax dialing. GhostScript is free :) On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:27:30 +1000, Armitage, Neil wrote: >Why do I need PCL5 support, Daryl? > >I look after an OS/2 system that receives printer output from an >IBM-compatible mainframe via lpd, then requeues it to PM Fax Pro. The >mainframe thinks the OS/2 system is a printer. >The mainframe has the option of sending PCL or Postscript to it's printers >and I would like to turn this on. Currently we only send simple >line-printer data via fax but would like to send some of the fancier >graphics stuff too. I have an older version of PM Fax Pro, but it only >supports PCL3. I need at least PCL4 support (or Postscript). > >Neil > >-----Original Message----- >From: Daryl Pilkington [mailto:u3232athome.dialix dot com] >Sent: Friday, 21 September 2001 10:34 >To: os2genauatos2 dot org dot au >Subject: Re: [os2genau] PMFax Pro Upgrade > > >Hi Neil, > >Orion Solutions: > >http://www.orion-solutions dot com dot au > >Another option would be to install PMPDF to "print" Portable Document >Format, (PDF), files. >Then view them using GSView & print to the FxPrint printer. > >It gives the added benefit of being able to send people PDFs which they >can read perfectly. > >Why do you need PCL5 printer support? > >On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:46:19 +1000, Armitage, Neil wrote: > >> >> >>Does anyone know of an Australian distributor for PM Fax Pro? I want to >>upgrade from the Lite version and get the PCL5 printer support. >> >>Thanks. >>Neil >> >> >>Neil Armitage >>Black Forest, South Australia >> >>narmitageatiPrimus dot com dot au >> > > >Regards, > >Daryl Pilkington > >//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration >O\_/ > OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 > IBM Certified Systems Expert > > email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au > ICQ: 91914134 > Tel: +61-2-8902-1300 > Mob: +61-425-251-300 > Fax: +61-2-9411-3720 > Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (160 characters max) > > Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au ICQ: 91914134 Tel: +61-2-8902-1300 Mob: +61-425-251-300 Fax: +61-2-9411-3720 Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (160 characters max) 8============================================== From: "Daryl Pilkington" Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 16:00:06 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: [os2genau] PMFax Pro Upgrade Hi Neil, 1) You probably will need a registered version of PMFax as GhostScript seems to only print to laserjet, even though it should print to os2prn, (OS/2 print format). 2) My testing is using GSView, perhaps runing GSOS2.exe directly you can print to the os2prn interface & hence use the FxPrint.drv in OS/2, which creates nice output. If 2) works you will get a very nice network lpd PostScript fax server. Email me if you need some assistance. Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au ICQ: 91914134 Tel: +61-2-8902-1300 Mob: +61-425-251-300 Fax: +61-2-9411-3720 Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (160 characters max) 9============================================== Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 19:12:58 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] PMFax Pro Upgrade If we're really talking PS to PCL conversion here, wasn't there an OS/2 Advanced printing option that came with WSeB ACF or something - that does this conversion ?? Cheers/2 Ed. Daryl Pilkington wrote: > Hi Neil, > > 1) > You probably will need a registered version of PMFax as GhostScript > seems to only print to laserjet, even though it should print to os2prn, > (OS/2 print format). > > 2) > My testing is using GSView, perhaps runing GSOS2.exe directly you can > print to the os2prn interface & hence use the FxPrint.drv in OS/2, > which creates nice output. > > If 2) works you will get a very nice network lpd PostScript fax server. > Email me if you need some assistance. > > Regards, > > Daryl Pilkington > > //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration > O \_/ > OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 > IBM Certified Systems Expert > > email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au > ICQ: 91914134 > Tel: +61-2-8902-1300 > Mob: +61-425-251-300 > Fax: +61-2-9411-3720 > Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (160 characters max) 10============================================== Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 19:26:50 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: [os2genau] Australian Personal Computer I don't know how many of you buy, like I do, the APC magazine every month. It used to carry a OS/2 shareware and a monthly "how-to" type article. Well the How to's gat dropped to make more room for Windoze and later Linux but the shareware and an online article stayed under the workshop part of the CD, well This month the October edition of APC no longer carries even this vestige of OS/2 coverage and they even failed to list how to read the index page when using OS/2 (open in your browser). The magazine itself has also changed design - changing it's main title to APC and now only Subtitling itself Australian Personal Computer, this may be due to a change of name coming up. Since half of the magazine is reviews of Digital cameras, perhaps APC is about to become the Journal of the Australian Photographic Club ?? Anyway, It's certainly a magazine to miss from an OS/2 Point Of View. Cheers/2 Ed. 11============================================== From: "Ian Manners" Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 19:56:44 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: [os2genau] Australian Personal Computer Hi Ed >I don't know how many of you buy, like I do, the APC magazine every >month. I was going to write to the list about the latest APC, I find its new direction rather at#$at#$. It is a part of the NineMSN stable, and it now shows. Even Linux has been moved to the last "magazine" page, and I assume will also soon vanish. A bit like Electronics Australia, I've been getting this magazine since I was a youngn, and this year, they have turned it into a consumer appliances magazine ! Such a sad end for the old "Radio Hobby's" magazine from the early 30's (or was it the 40's), now all I have left is Silicon Chip, which seems to be slowly turning into a computer magazine ! Soon, I'll be forced to buy the British Electronics magazines to get my fix. Cheers Ian B Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ If men can run the world, why can't they stop wearing neckties? How intelligent is it to start the day by tying a little noose around your neck? -- Linda Ellerbee 12============================================== From: "John Angelico" Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:22:53 +1000 (EST) Subject: [os2genau] Melbourne OS/2-eCS SIG Meeting Sept 25th & eCS day Sat 29th OS/2 SIG Meeting Agenda for September 2001 Date: Tuesday Sept 25th Time: 6:30pm Location: Large SIG room, Melbourne PC User Group, cnr Wells & Dorcas Streets South Melbourne The Monthly Meeting of Melbourne OS/2 SIG Excitement last month; but sobering this month. News We live in a different world all of a sudden. And the Windows PC world has been struck by a savage new virus. For the forseeable future, we will try to cover at least one aspect of eCS in each SIG meeting. This month the topic chooses itself. Protection We will welcome as a special guest speaker Mark Karpinski of Capital Security Solutions, the Australian representatives of Norman Data Security. Norman are the providers of (among other things) Norman Anti-Virus. A "demo" or "lite" version is included with all eCS distributions, and Norman's had a new update to deal with Nimda available on their web site on Wednesday evening. Mark will take us through the operation and features of Norman AV which is available for all platforms including both Warp and eCS. No doubt he will also tell us about other aspects of data security for which Norman has an excellent range of products and services. OS/2 Basics If we have enough time left after Mark's presentation we will have another Basics segment on the use of the Button 2 menus, layout of folders and organising the Desktop. -------------------- eCS Tune Up and Install day Date: Saturday Sept 29th Time: 9:30am - 5pm Location: Large SIG room, Melbourne PC User Group, cnr Wells & Dorcas Streets South Melbourne We have been trying to have an eCS InstallFest for months but it looks llike the name won't stick! Now that most pre-ordered copies are in the hands of users, we agreed with Mark Rogers that it would be better to have a day when you could bring your machine with eCS and Mark could "do a tune up," help you with other software installs, etc However, if you have not yet bought or not yet installed eCS, then Saturday the 29th might be a good day to pick up some tips from those who have installed, and then "take the plunge"! Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au -------------------------------------------- PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... Avoid junk mail: Get an unlisted postcode! 13============================================== From: "John Angelico" Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 23:41:42 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: [os2genau] PMFax Pro Upgrade On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:46:19 +1000, Armitage, Neil wrote: > > >Does anyone know of an Australian distributor for PM Fax Pro? I want to >upgrade from the Lite version and get the PCL5 printer support. > >Thanks. >Neil > > Hi Neil. Long time no speak (OT: we're coming to Adelaide Oct 6th. Any chance of seeing you and family at our seminar?) If you go to CDS web site www.cds-inc dot com you can upgrade online and download the software. Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au -------------------------------------------- PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... Circular Definition: see Definition, Circular.