From: "Digest" To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 01:00:00 +1000 (EDT) Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 184 Reply-To: Date:- 13 October 2001 Please reply to ianatos2site dot com to post to the list. The posting problem will be fixed in November, this only affects people on the digest list. 1================================================ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 02:51:05 +1000 From: "Mike O'Connor" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Convenience Pack "Ian Manners" wrote: > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:05:46 +1000 (EST) > Subject: [os2genau] Convenience Pack > > Hi All > > Its been a long haul, but, after a long wait :-) > I've just received my OS/2 Warp v4.51 Convenience Pack ! > Delivered by DHL Worldwide Air Express from Singapore. > > Has anyone tried installing over the top of standard Warp v4 ? > If so, any gottas I should watch out for ? > > Cheers Hi Ian, I also did this and I would suggest that when you have everything up to your satisfaction - DEFRAG it - I use Chris Graham's Utils. You'll probably find that some of the e.g. log files are up to 800-1000 separate extents! Do the defrag before you do the backup/format/restore. You may find it's not then necessary to do the backup [just to completely defragment] - the 12MB font files etc are almost always 2 extents because of the 8MB directory bands I suppose. Mike 2============================================== Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 03:24:06 +1000 From: "Mike O'Connor" Subject: Re: [os2genau] [os2genau_digest] No. 183 - BobT's disk problem "Robert Traynor (BobT)" wrote: > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 20:23:23 +1000 > Subject: Re: [os2genau] Convenience Pack > > Hi Ian, > > I did exactly that put MCP over Warp4 fixpack #15 with tcpip 4.1 > and all tcpip and mpts fixes for 4.1. > > The first time it worked perfectly. > The installation warns that Voice Type, PMfax, VideoIn and some > others were not supported, but these can be re-installed later, if needed. > > It created the usual "Previous desktop" folder but it only worked > correctly the first time. If you do it a second time most of your > previous folders are all empty. > > Otherwise it did work. > > I then tried a eCS upgrade. This I would NOT advise. > You end up with "Desktop" and "Desktop1" both running in tandem. > Do anything to one and the system is unusable. > > I have a hard drive with partition table problems so I will be unable to > reply to this list for a while. Currently using a spare hard disk > and Win98. > Hi Robert, Included with the Graham Utilities is a program Part-Fix.exe, which can recover your partition tables (MBR + EPBR entries in extended partition) and which works backwards from the end of the disk. If you don't have them already, seems that now would be the second-best time to get them. Of course at installation they create a copy of all the partition info on floppy - you can't bypass that step & it can be repeated at any time you re-partition your drives. Setup the screwed-up disk as slave or secondary master to the W98 disk & you can modify manually with e.g. Norton Diskedit (DOS). Once you get the hang of the chaining of the blocks it's pretty simple with a direct-disk hex editor. Just do a search on 0x55AA as the last word of a sector to find likely boot records. If you remember the approximate sizes of the partitions you can narrow down the likely starting cylinders for each, etc., using simple ratios. Mike 3============================================== From: "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 17:12:34 +1100 (EDT) Subject: Re: [os2genau] Convenience Pack Hello I thought that 'defragging' discs and files was not needed for HPFS - at least not as often as FAT etc, but please educate me... what does defragging do that an occasional cleaning up of the ini files and check disk doesnt do and when and how would I be aware that my system needed to be defragged ( sounds lurid!!!) and is this something that is only available via the Graham Utilities? On Fri, 12 Oct 2001 02:51:05 +1000, Digest wrote: >From: "Mike O'Connor" > >"Ian Manners" wrote: > >> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:05:46 +1000 (EST) >> Subject: [os2genau] Convenience Pack >> >> Hi All >> >> Its been a long haul, but, after a long wait :-) >> I've just received my OS/2 Warp v4.51 Convenience Pack ! >> Delivered by DHL Worldwide Air Express from Singapore. >> >> Has anyone tried installing over the top of standard Warp v4 ? >> If so, any gottas I should watch out for ? >> >> Cheers > >Hi Ian, > >I also did this and I would suggest that when you have >everything up to your satisfaction - DEFRAG it - I use Chris >Graham's Utils. You'll probably find that some of the e.g. >log files are up to 800-1000 separate extents! Do the defrag >before you do the backup/format/restore. You may find it's >not then necessary to do the backup [just to completely >defragment] - the 12MB font files etc are almost always 2 >extents because of the 8MB directory bands I suppose. > >Mike > Graham Norton President OS2 Users Group SA 4============================================== From: "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 17:18:24 +1100 (EDT) Subject: Re: [os2genau] Archive Key files I am aware now of the useful ability to archive additional files every time that we do a desktop backup using the addition of set keyfile=*.* in the os2 archive directory can I begin a discussion /thread on which files other users of OS2 (client and server) commonly add to this directory and perhaps if not obvious, an explanation of why? thanks Graham Norton President OS2 Users Group SA 5============================================== Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 18:17:47 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: [os2genau] Convenience Pack ** Reply to note from "Dr Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist" Fri, 12 Oct 2001 17:12:34 +1100 (EDT) > I thought that 'defragging' discs and files was not needed for HPFS - at least not as > often as FAT etc, but please educate me... defragging *definteley* needs to be done at *regular* basis, even for HPFS I do mine regularly, every 3 years. I forgot the stats from last time, it was something redicoulsly low, in % terms YMMV > > what does defragging do that an occasional cleaning up of the ini files and check > disk doesnt do and when and how would I be aware that my system needed to be > defragged ( sounds lurid!!!) and is this something that is only available via the > Graham Utilities? defragging is to do with disk /cluster space allocation, GU or Gammatech will tell you if need defragging ini files simply gets rid of crud in the two ini files Voytek Eymont SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/ phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 6============================================== From: "Daryl Pilkington" Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 21:25:28 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: [os2genau] Archive Key files Hi Graham, Don't look much further than: c:\os2\archives\os2.key from eComStation: KEYFILE:OS2.INI KEYFILE:OS2SYS.INI KEYFILE:C:\CONFIG.SYS KEYFILE:C:\STARTUP.CMD KEYFILE:C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT KEYFILE:C:\OS2INIT.CMD KEYFILE:C:\os2\EPW.INI KEYFILE:C:\ibmcom\protocol.ini KEYFILE:C:\mptn\bin\MPTCONFG.INI KEYFILE:C:\mptn\bin\MPTSTART.CMD KEYFILE:C:\mptn\bin\setup.cmd KEYFILE:C:\mptn\bin\setup.tcp KEYFILE:C:\mptn\etc\DHCPCD.MPT KEYFILE:C:\mptn\etc\dhcpcd.cfg KEYFILE:C:\mptn\etc\dhcpcd.tcp KEYFILE:C:\mptn\etc\hosts KEYFILE:C:\mptn\etc\resolv2 KEYFILE:C:\mptn\etc\TCPOS2.INI KEYFILE:C:\netscape\EPFINS46.PKG KEYFILE:C:\netscape\NS46.PKG KEYFILE:C:\netscape\NS46COMM.PKG KEYFILE:C:\ibmlan\IBMLAN.INI KEYFILE:C:\ibmlan\accounts\net.acc KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\bin\admin_pw.cmd KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\bin\binlscpc.cmd KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\bin\binlscps.cmd KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\bin\dadmgui.cmd KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\bin\ddnsapc.cmd KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\bin\dhcpscpc.cmd KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\bin\tcpcfg2.cmd KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\bin\tcpcfg2d.cmd KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\bin\tcpcfg2r.cmd KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\bin\tcpstart.cmd KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\bin\tcpstart.tcp KEYFILE:C:\tcpip\etc\dhcpcd.cfg KEYFILE:C:\mmos2\DIVE.INI KEYFILE:C:\mmos2\MIDITYPE.INI KEYFILE:C:\mmos2\MMPM.INI KEYFILE:C:\mmos2\MMPM2.INI KEYFILE:C:\mmos2\MMPMCD.INI KEYFILE:C:\mmos2\MMPMCONN.INI KEYFILE:C:\mmos2\MMPMMMIO.INI KEYFILE:C:\mmos2\SPI.INI Somebody else can explain :) Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au ICQ: 91914134 Tel: +61-2-8902-1300 Mob: +61-425-251-300 Fax: +61-2-9411-3720 Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (160 characters max) 7============================================== From: "Daryl Pilkington" Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 22:16:28 +1000 (EST) Subject: [os2genau] ssh on OS/2 Does anyone know how to setup ssh on OS/2? I got the download from hobbes, but the documentation is very hard to understand & has huge holes. Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au ICQ: 91914134 Tel: +61-2-8902-1300 Mob: +61-425-251-300 Fax: +61-2-9411-3720 Mob SMS: 0425251300.0000atorangenet dot com dot au (160 characters max) 8============================================== From: Subject: [os2genau] I'm back Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 22:40:56 -1000 After 7 attempts to install eCS I've finaly given up and returned to #12. My mouse now flies across the screen, files load in next to nothing( at least an order of magnitude faster) and scrolling past the end of the page once again is dangeriously difficult. Lotus 123 now works and doesn't send the system into convulsions when you try to save or exit. Until someone can successfully explain to me why an upgrade degrades the system and makes applications which work in fp12 become useless, then eCS will stay Shelfware. I gave it two weeks of pain, and the only things that worked correctly were Internet Adventurer, Netscape and Majong. Now it's back to work and see you at the next SIG Regards Dennis. 9============================================== Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 18:48:41 +0830 From: Leigh Bunting Subject: Re: [os2genau] NS 4.61 Browser Access Problem Peter Godbold wrote: > Anyone else getting an "Access Denied" problem with the Australian IT > Ping Newsletters? > > It seems that in the last three weeks the PING Newsletters have been > accessing a web page: > http://hjc1.careerone dot com dot au/js/setLocation.js No success from my home OS/2 box and no success either from my 100% M$ works box. Cheers, Leigh Bunting Colonel Light Gardens South Australia 10============================================== Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 23:06:00 +1100 From: Jim Boyle Subject: Re: [os2genau] eCS Install (was ... I'm back With regard to an unsuccessful update - it may be caused by something fundamentally wrong in the base system, that is creating problems during the upgrade. Have you tried a clean install to a new partition ? I took the simplistic approach of doing a "clean" eCS installation - it all WAD (Worked As Designed) - nary a problem, and the Smart Suite is all up and running plus a few other applications like Describe plus many REXX programs, and other utilities ex Hobbes etc etc that I've built up over the years. There used be a good "SAVEFLDR" utility around that's handy for saving desktop structures - I suggest a hunt on Hobbes to see if it's around. On this occasion I didn't bother - just drag/dropped stuff off the data disk to a CDROM where RSJ saved a safety copy "as is", and I just built a new eCS partition and away it all went. 45 minutes or so to a running system, and one evening to have all my applications back in order and current code running it all. Nice ! I cannot accept liability for any errors or omissions in this message. Jim Boyle jimboyleatoptushome dot com dot au