From: "Digest" To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 01:00:00 +1100 (EDT) Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 218 Reply-To: Date:- 30 November 2001 Please reply to ianatos2site dot com to post to the list. 1================================================ From: "Ian Manners" Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 00:18:32 +1100 (EDT) Subject: Re: [os2genau] InJoy Firewall Hi Ed >This appears to be a Linux only solution though - right ? Yes, it is based on Linux, it is a Linux boot image that you create a CDROM from, then install it onto a PC to use as your firewall. As it has more people working on it, it is a better product in a general sense than InJoy FW BUT if I wanted to leave some servers turned on unattended for months, I would at present still go with InJoy Firewall due to both its complexity, and its robust nature, we are also waiting to see what direction Bjarne is going to take the InJoy products in. It's a very good product, and I would recommend it to anyone why uses PC's with server software installed, of uses Windows. I would of cause also recommend InJoy Firewall but we must remember that each product has its strengths, and as to what you use depends on your situation, not to mention the cash point. Its a bit like printers, what you really need depends on the use you have for it. http://www.smoothwall dot org/gpl/home/ http://www.os2site dot com/sw/internet/firewall/index.html Cheers Ian B Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ The best way to accelerate Windows is at escape velocity. 2============================================== Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:09:27 +0100 From: Kris Steenhaut Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP640C colour printer & OS/2? Brad Van Eps/NCO/CEtv schreef: > Hi, > > My wife is looking for a relatively inexpensive colour inkjet printer > to enable her to output photographs in reasonable quality onto A4, however > it has got to run under OS/2 Warp 4 as this is what we use at home. > Currently we're investigating the HP DeskJet 640C and although IBM's online > device driver page doesn't have a driver specifically for this printer, > their OMNII driver seems to work with similar(?) HP models (610C, 660C). > Does anyone had any experience running this printer with OS/2? Do have an inquiry whether the printer prints in Dos or not. If Y, you are sure for 100 % it will print in OS2. iF N, you are 100 % sure it won't print in OS2. (As the 610C prints in Dos, chanches for the 640C are rather slim imho) btw: Your best bet now is the HP 920 C. As we are talking about photografs, aren't we? -- Groeten uit Gent, Kris 3============================================== Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 07:12:52 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] InJoy Firewall Ian, you also mentioned the built-in firewall that comes with IBM's latest TCP/IP code - have you tried this out ? I've read the redbooks but didn't install it as it didn't give me the NAT capability that IJ does. Now that there's freeware NAT support for OS/2, I might re-consider a NAT plus TCP/IP firewall solution. Cheers/2 Ed. Ian Manners wrote: > Hi Ed > > >This appears to be a Linux only solution though - right ? > > Yes, it is based on Linux, it is a Linux boot image that you create > a CDROM from, then install it onto a PC to use as your firewall. > As it has more people working on it, it is a better product in a > general sense than InJoy FW BUT if I wanted to leave some > servers turned on unattended for months, I would at present > still go with InJoy Firewall due to both its complexity, and its > robust nature, we are also waiting to see what direction Bjarne > is going to take the InJoy products in. 4============================================== Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 07:24:20 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP640C colour printer & OS/2? DJ640C DEFINATELy prints under OS/2 ! However as I said before, especially for photographic quality - the Epson stylus Color 680 is a far better option. Cheers/2 Ed. Kris Steenhaut wrote: > Brad Van Eps/NCO/CEtv schreef: > > > Hi, > > > > My wife is looking for a relatively inexpensive colour inkjet printer > > to enable her to output photographs in reasonable quality onto A4, however > > it has got to run under OS/2 Warp 4 as this is what we use at home. > > Currently we're investigating the HP DeskJet 640C and although IBM's online > > device driver page doesn't have a driver specifically for this printer, > > their OMNII driver seems to work with similar(?) HP models (610C, 660C). > > Does anyone had any experience running this printer with OS/2? > > Do have an inquiry whether the printer prints in Dos or not. If Y, you are sure for 100 % it will print in OS2. iF N, you are 100 % sure it won't print in OS2. > > (As the 610C prints in Dos, chanches for the 640C are rather slim imho) > > btw: Your best bet now is the HP 920 C. As we are talking about photografs, aren't we? > > -- > Groeten uit Gent, > > Kris > 5============================================== From: Trevor Clarke Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP640C colour printer & OS/2? Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:48:58 +1100 With all this chat about printers I am reminded that I am yet to work out how to get an OS/2 printer to work under Win-OS/2. Does anybody here know? I remember that when I was on Warp3, I think the OS/2 printers just kind of appeared as installed printers under Win-OS/2. This has not been my experience under Warp4 or Ecs. 6============================================== From: "John Angelico" Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:52:17 +1100 (EDT) Subject: [os2genau] OS/2 SIG Report Nov 2001 Greetings Gary (with copy to our SIG mailing list) . Following is our last report for 2001. Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au ____________________________________________ Melbourne PC SIG Meeting Report To: G Taig Features Editor PC Update CC: OS/2 SIG Members Report Date: 28 Nov 2001 Meeting Date: 27 Nov 2001 Report by: John Angelico (03) 9544 8792 As we wind down for the year, quite a few members were absent and in all 15 people were present for this meeting, including new member Mr Ken Hope, formerly from the Canberra PC User Group. Latest Headlines Serenity Systems has released Fixpack 1 for eCS (incorporating all IBM-released fixes to the Convenience Pack), making it available for download from the ecomstation dot com website by all registered users of eCS. They continue to work furiously on the Demo CD and version 1.1, intending these to be the main showcase of eCS to Windows users and the media. eCS and OS/2 developers continue to revive their interest and refresh their offerings. The Lotus division of IBM has announced that SmartSuite 1.7 for OS/2 is in progress, while the Java juggernaut rolls on. More websites are being converted to "Sun standard Java" away from "Microsoft version Java" - the latest being the National Australia Bank's Internet Banking site which went live on Nov 19th, abandoning the previous requirement for encryption keys and the MS-Java module which handled them. Their site now uses 128-bit SSL session encryption as do most other Australian banks. As far as I am aware, the only major user of Public Key Encryption and MS-Java is the Tax Office for electronic lodgement of GST BAS returns. OS/2 Basics. Since all those present were well and truly confident of their use of DOS sessions in OS/2 we deferred this topic into next year. Desktop In Call Just to demonstrate that Murphy's Law still affects computers more than anything else, our demo of DTOC was derailed by technical problems on my laptop, and complexities of trying to run an internet demo via the MelbPC intranet. We therefore resolved to iron out the bugs and re-run the demo at our next meeting in January. We closed the meeting at 9pm with a scramble for some free "obsolete" OS/2 software, even though we know that quality is never really obsolete. 7============================================== From: "Gavin Miller" Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:33:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP640C colour printer & OS/2? Trevor, If there is a Win 3.1 driver, in most cases you can install that in Win-OS/2 and select LPT-OS2 as the port. Brad, HP make some good stuff. Printers are not one of them. Every now an then HP come up with a good printer, but not that often. They tend to fail. All of the HP printers I've used haven't lasted that long. Having said that, I will admit that I know very little about the 640C other than that they exist. If they are anything like the 660's at work, stay right away from them. I've never had a problem with Canon. The Epsom sounds quite good, but don't leave out Lexmark, who also support OS/2 natively and are quite cheap. Do some research online and checkout IBM's driver site as well. What ever you decide, DO get the highest print resolution you can afford (both x and y res's) Cheers guys Gavin 8============================================== Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:33:09 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP640C colour printer & OS/2? Hi Gavin and Trevor, Indeed I had the same requirements which is where I came up with the Epson as the best deal on both function and OS/2 support. A lot of the later Lexmark printer's DON'T have OS/2 support. Don't forget, Lexmark is no longer part of IBM. Printers are a personal thing. I liked using my Deskjet 640C, it gave very few problems. I like using the Epson. One thing that applies to all printers though is to look at the price of consumables ! - The replacment ink cartridges. It may even be cheaper in the long run to buy a more expensive model where you can replace the colours individually at maybe $20 per colour, rather than going for the cheaper printer, which when you use up say the blue ink, you're up for a $65 replacment, to replace all three colours in the one cartridge. By the way, I think I missed something in the original note - I didn't realise windows 3.1 (win-os2) support was a requirement. It shouldn't be a problem on any of the current common printers, however since hardly anyone uses Win 3.1 now, it probably worth checking before buying ! Cheers/2 Ed. Gavin Miller wrote: > Trevor, > > If there is a Win 3.1 driver, in most cases you can install that in Win-OS/2 and select > LPT-OS2 as the port. > > Brad, > > HP make some good stuff. Printers are not one of them. Every now an then HP come > up with a good printer, but not that often. They tend to fail. All of the HP printers I've > used haven't lasted that long. Having said that, I will admit that I know very little about > the 640C other than that they exist. If they are anything like the 660's at work, stay right > away from them. > > I've never had a problem with Canon. The Epsom sounds quite good, but don't leave > out Lexmark, who also support OS/2 natively and are quite cheap. Do some research > online and checkout IBM's driver site as well. What ever you decide, DO get the > highest print resolution you can afford (both x and y res's) > > Cheers guys > Gavin > 9============================================== Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:41:25 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] OS/2 SIG Report Nov 2001 Just in regards to your point on DTOC John. Daryl and I have successfully ren Version 5 of DTOC over the internet, just 4 days after the evaluation version was released by IBM Japan. It seems a little slicker and Daryl tells me it doesn't expand his Swapper.dat like Version 4 did. Believe it or not Version 5 now supports additional operating systems - as well as the premier OS - OS/2 Warp and the "well we've got to cover it 'cos it's out there" Windoze, it now also has a server version for Linux and the web client now optimises itself if you are running from, wait for it ..... a PocketPC (WinCE) or Palm Pilot (Palm OS). Hmmm controlling a hefty OS/2 server from a Palm Pilot, seems a bit funny ?? Anyone got a broswser running on a palm pilot with internet connectivity, they want to try accessing with ?? Cheers/2 Ed. John Angelico wrote: > Melbourne PC SIG Meeting Report > > Desktop In Call > Just to demonstrate that Murphy's Law still affects computers more > than anything else, our demo of DTOC was derailed by technical > problems on my laptop, and complexities of trying to run an internet > demo via the MelbPC intranet. We therefore resolved to iron out the > bugs and re-run the demo at our next meeting in January. > 10============================================== Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:48:51 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: [os2genau] OS/2 SIG Report Nov 2001 ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:41:25 +1100 > Hmmm controlling a hefty OS/2 > server from a Palm Pilot, seems a bit funny ?? Anyone got a > broswser running on a palm pilot with internet connectivity, > they want to try accessing with ?? I have been telneting from Palm to several, some hefty, some, quite OS/2 since few years ago; even from another PC, where I have RSM, I tend to use telnet over GUI app... still, I suppose a Palm GUI thing would be a nice novelty... before novely part wears off... Voytek Eymont SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/ phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 11============================================== From: "John Angelico" Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:06:02 +1100 (EDT) Subject: Re: [os2genau] OS/2 SIG Report Nov 2001 On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:41:25 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: >Just in regards to your point on DTOC John. Daryl and I have >successfully ren Version 5 of DTOC over the internet, just 4 days >after the evaluation version was released by IBM Japan. It seems >a little slicker and Daryl tells me it doesn't expand his Swapper.dat >like Version 4 did. That's encouraging news Ed. We seemed to have some funny lockups here with v4 - could they be video related? I got the modem card working again the next day of course (Murphy. I'd like to throttle you!) > >Believe it or not Version 5 now supports additional operating >systems - as well as the premier OS - OS/2 Warp and the "well >we've got to cover it 'cos it's out there" Windoze, it now also has >a server version for Linux and the web client now optimises >itself if you are running from, wait for it ..... a PocketPC (WinCE) >or Palm Pilot (Palm OS). Hmmm controlling a hefty OS/2 >server from a Palm Pilot, seems a bit funny ?? Anyone got a >broswser running on a palm pilot with internet connectivity, >they want to try accessing with ?? Hey, that would be fun!! But imagine a terrorist with DTOC controlling the NT on the Yorktown...? Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG talldadatmelbpc dot org dot au or talldadatkepl dot com dot au -------------------------------------------- PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... Windows '95? Sorry, I prefer OS/2! 12============================================== Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:28:52 +0100 From: Kris Steenhaut Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP640C colour printer & OS/2? Gavin Miller schreef: > > I've never had a problem with Canon. The Epsom sounds quite good, but don't leave > out Lexmark, who also support OS/2 natively and are quite cheap. Do some research > online Actually, you're in the market for an update too. Lexmark has given up on OS/2 since 2 years now, and is absolutely unrecommendable. We can argue about HP versus Epson ofcoz. Epson drivers are made in Japan (Big Blue provides the omni* sources, the Japanese do the rest). Epson printers are excellent. Main problem: is the printhead is blocked by stick (colour) ink, you do need a new printhead, and that costs as much as a new printer. That's why I do prefer the HP 9* series; *all* specimen of the 900 printer series except for the HP995c do work excellent in OS2 (the 995c only is available in Europe, btw). And you can install easily the win31 drivers in winos2. Only snag is: the double side print option only works in Winos2 ( that is for the 960-970-980-990 and 1160). -- Groeten uit Gent, Kris 13============================================== Subject: Re: [os2genau] InJoy Firewall From: "Keith Bainbridge" Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:42:10 +1100 Ian - all, Smoothwall is a Linux OS dedicated to be a firewall - with most normal uses= taken out to aid the security Another reservation though is that there is an argument brewing over who ow= ns the copyright :-) Regards KeithB > Hi Ed > > >This appears to be a Linux only solution though - right ? > > Yes, it is based on Linux, it is a Linux boot image that you create > a CDROM from, then install it onto a PC to use as your firewall. > As it has more people working on it, it is a better product in a > general sense than InJoy FW BUT if I wanted to leave some > servers turned on unattended for months, I would at present > still go with InJoy Firewall due to both its complexity, and its > robust nature, we are also waiting to see what direction Bjarne > is going to take the InJoy products in. > > It's a very good product, and I would recommend it to anyone > why uses PC's with server software installed, of uses Windows. > > I would of cause also recommend InJoy Firewall but we must > remember that each product has its strengths, and as to what > you use depends on your situation, not to mention the cash > point. Its a bit like printers, what you really need depends on > the use you have for it. > > http://www.smoothwall dot org/gpl/home/ > http://www.os2site dot com/sw/internet/firewall/index.html > > Cheers > Ian B Manners > http://www.os2site dot com/ > > The best way to accelerate Windows is at escape velocity. Regards Keith Bainbridge PO Box 324, BELMONT, Vic, 3216, Australia Phone +61 3 5241-1881 or +61408-522-706 Fax +61 3 5241-9887 E-mail keithbatpobox dot com I can help improve your business cash flow. Powered by the E-mail PIM - Info Select - www.miclog dot com 14============================================== Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 23:41:19 -0500 From: Alan Duval Subject: Re: [os2genau] HP640C colour printer & OS/2? The problem with Epson Stylus Color 680 is that it seems to go through ink at a fast rate as the cartridges are small. Also if one cartridge empties you can't switch to the other to print . you have to have both cartridges with ink in them. Hence you need to have a spare black and color cartridge. Also you can't fill the cartridges yourself as there is a chip on the cartridge to prevent this. Alan Duval Ed Durrant wrote: > Go for an Epson Stylus Color 680 - works fully under OS/2 Warp, whether > Parrallel cable or USB attached. Highest resolution is 2880 dpi (Apart from > Color laser printers - you won't get better than that). Fully supported (by IBM) > printer drivers that even include the maintenance (print head cleaning / > alignment etc.) functions. > > It looks like it's just (this month) been replaced by the C60 model, so > you can probably pick one up for a good price - I think mine cost me > AUS$270 about 6 months ago. > > I used to have a HP640C (you can use the 660C driver as this is what it > is marketted as in the US I think) - it's not in the same class for photographic > quality printing. Fine for coloured barcharts etc, but not up to > the standard of the Epson. > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. > > Brad Van Eps/NCO/CEtv wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > My wife is looking for a relatively inexpensive colour inkjet printer > > to enable her to output photographs in reasonable quality onto A4, however > > it has got to run under OS/2 Warp 4 as this is what we use at home. > > Currently we're investigating the HP DeskJet 640C and although IBM's online > > device driver page doesn't have a driver specifically for this printer, > > their OMNII driver seems to work with similar(?) HP models (610C, 660C). > > Does anyone had any experience running this printer with OS/2? > > > > Thanks for any advice! > > > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > Brad van Eps, B.Eng Senior DBA > > Database Administration group > > Austar Communications > > Gold Coast, QLD > > Ph: (075) 557 5630 Fax: (075) 574 1417 > > E-mail: bradvanepsataustar dot com dot au > > > > OS/2 Zealot! > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > > *************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** > > This email and any files transmitted with it, are confidential and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > > If you have received this email in error, please notify the system manager. > > > > This footnote also confirms that this email message has been scanned by AUSTAR Communications content and virus scanning applications > > for the presence of computer viruses. > > *************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** > 15============================================== From: "Alan Duval" Subject: Re: [os2genau] IBM Dialer Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 00:36:38 +1100 Hi, I,ve installed eCS again and this time got Copyshop2 to work and have installed all my programs. However I can't get IBM Dialer to connect to Ozemail. I have all the same settings as before but after the modem dials an error message comes up stating: error : ((NETW) invalid fcs error : (NETW) invalid protocol 7296 the connection then terminates. On one occasion I ticked the Status enable debug box and the Dialup was successful, so I thought I had the answer but when I exited the program and came back to it the same errors occurred and debug no longer worked. Any ideas how I can get my dialer to work? Alan Duval