From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 00:00:07 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 301 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Tuesday 19 March 2002 Number 301 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: [os2genau] Rexx question : Ian Manners" 2 Re: [os2genau] Rexx question : madodelatptdprolog dot net 3 Re: [os2genau] RAID on 386HPFS : Daryl Pilkington" 4 [os2genau] Diskless workstations : Daryl Pilkington" 5 Re: [os2genau] RAID on 386HPFS : Ed Durrant 6 Re: [os2genau] Diskless workstations : Ed Durrant 7 [os2genau] New hardware experiences : Paul Smedley" 8 Re: [os2genau] Mozilla alterations : amoht" 9 [os2genau] Computer version: arrival of latest Angelico : John Angelico" 10 [os2genau] Reminder - Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting : List Admin" 11 Re: [os2genau] Computer version: arrival of latest Angelico : Ian Manners" 12 Re: [os2genau] RAID on 386HPFS : Daryl Pilkington" 13 Re: [os2genau] Computer version: arrival of latest Angelico : Peter 14 Re: [os2genau] Mozilla alterations : David Forrester" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:22:09 +1100 (EDT) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Rexx question Hi John, Bob, and Frank Thanks for all the answers, I've gone with chris's solution, simplicity itself . Its for the Mailing List digest nightly mailout, at present, most of its has been automated but MajorMajor likes to mince the daily archive file, and sometimes my old script has fallen over on strange emails, so up until 3 days ago I've had my script proccess the digest, hold it, if I approve, make changes etc, then send it out (changes are made about once a fortnight). This will fully automate the digest, including 1) converting all HTML to plain text 2) converting QuotedPrintable 3) removing all excess headers/footers 4) removing any and all attachments 4) Listing all the subject headings at the start of the email 5) Autonumbering all individual emails in the digest The digest email is also what creates the email you see in the Archive directory. When I get back from Perth/Kalgoolie in about three weeks, I'll clean it up, put lots of comments, and send it off to Peter Moylan for inclusion with MajorMajor if he see's fit. I tell you what, switching between Watcom C, learning more about rexx the hardway, sure is mind blowing :-) Cheers Ian B Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 18:40:58 -0500 From: madodelatptdprolog dot net Subject: Re: [os2genau] Rexx question In <200203190022.00003TW5atmail.os2site dot com>, on 03/19/02 at 12:22 AM, "Ian Manners" said: >The digest email is also what creates the email you see >in the Archive directory. >When I get back from Perth/Kalgoolie in about three >weeks, I'll clean it up, put lots of comments, and send >it off to Peter Moylan for inclusion with MajorMajor if >he see's fit. Bless you. A digest version is one of the most requested items people keep asking for from the VOICE Newslist. I hope Peter can add this in a future version. The other is a web archive. Mark -- From the OS/2 Desktop of: Mark Dodel Warpstock 2002, Come to the home of OS/2 - Austin, Texas http://www.warpstock dot org For a choice in the future of personal computing, Join VOICE - http://www.os2voice dot org "The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That in it's essence, is Fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group or by any controlling private power." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Message proposing the Monopoly Investigation, 1938 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:56:52 +1100 (EDT) From: "Daryl Pilkington" Subject: Re: [os2genau] RAID on 386HPFS Hi Ed, I'd like to implement drive mirroring too, (RAID 1), using Fault Tolerance in Warp Server Advanced. As usual, the IBM documentation is useless, referring to a document: LAN Server Network Adminstrator Reference Volume 3: Network Administrator Tasks Where can I get this from? Has anyone setup Fault Tolerance before? How do you prepare the secondary drive? On Sat, 16 Mar 2002 15:30:40 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: >If it's hardware Raid-1 - it doesn't matter what file system >(eg HPFS / HPFS386 / NTFS / FAT) you're using, the processor on the >RAID card takes care of everything at a data block level. > >I would not recommend the use of a software raid implementation. > >Cheers/2 >Ed. > Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au ICQ: 91914134 Mob: 0425-251-300 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 13:36:15 +1100 (EDT) From: "Daryl Pilkington" Subject: [os2genau] Diskless workstations Hi, Building Workstations is a right PITA, & software version control is near impossible. I know Win9x, DOS, Linux & OS/2 boxes can be diskless, but what about NT/W2k/XP? What are people's ideas about the different philosophies of thin clients: 1) Workstation CPU processing:- boot & run OS from a network OS image. 2) Server CPU processing:- XWindows, Citrix, NT Terminal Server. Hybrids of the above methods are also possible:- XWindows running a Citrix client off a network Linux image, for example. Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au ICQ: 91914134 Mob: 0425-251-300 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:51:46 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] RAID on 386HPFS Are you talking about a hardware raid implementation - ie Servraid ?? or software ?? I would strongly advise AGAINST a software implementation! The hardware implementation is OS independant although monitoring software is ofcourse OS specific. Cheers/2 Ed. Daryl Pilkington wrote: > > Hi Ed, > I'd like to implement drive mirroring too, (RAID 1), using Fault > Tolerance in Warp Server Advanced. > > As usual, the IBM documentation is useless, referring to a document: > > LAN Server Network Adminstrator Reference Volume 3: > Network Administrator Tasks > > Where can I get this from? > Has anyone setup Fault Tolerance before? > How do you prepare the secondary drive? > > On Sat, 16 Mar 2002 15:30:40 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: > > >If it's hardware Raid-1 - it doesn't matter what file system > >(eg HPFS / HPFS386 / NTFS / FAT) you're using, the processor on the > >RAID card takes care of everything at a data block level. > > > >I would not recommend the use of a software raid implementation. > > > >Cheers/2 > >Ed. > > > > Regards, > > Daryl Pilkington > > //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration > O \_/ > OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 > IBM Certified Systems Expert > > email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au > ICQ: 91914134 > Mob: 0425-251-300 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:30:29 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] Diskless workstations Windows boxes always have to have a harddisk as they cannot swap to a network drive. Mind you a 3 1/2 inch harddrive in a thin client isn't that much of a problem really and if you use WSOD, OS/2 can also use it to store heavily used System DLLs and hence improve performance without losing central control. I rather like the idea of a very basic OS on the thin client say 10MB or so and then an X-windows / Citrix / VPC type solution. Cheers/2 Ed. Daryl Pilkington wrote: > > Hi, > Building Workstations is a right PITA, & software version control is > near impossible. > I know Win9x, DOS, Linux & OS/2 boxes can be diskless, but what about > NT/W2k/XP? > > What are people's ideas about the different philosophies of thin > clients: > > 1) > Workstation CPU processing:- boot & run OS from a network OS image. > > 2) > Server CPU processing:- XWindows, Citrix, NT Terminal Server. > > Hybrids of the above methods are also possible:- XWindows running a > Citrix client off a network Linux image, for example. > > Regards, > > Daryl Pilkington > > //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration > O \_/ > OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 > IBM Certified Systems Expert > > email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au > ICQ: 91914134 > Mob: 0425-251-300 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 20:43:40 +1000 From: "Paul Smedley" Subject: [os2genau] New hardware experiences Hi All, Just wanted to share some new hardware experience with everyone. I finally got sick of trying to re-ink my old Lexmark 7200, and given the cost of two new ink cartridges (circa $150) thought I'd invest in a new printer that had separate ink tanks. The only affordable, currently available printers with separate ink tanks in Adelaide that seemed to have OS/2 drivers were the Canon range. I wasn't after a photo quality printer, as I have a photo lab that I'm happy with that is reasonably priced that I use for prints from our digital camera. I ended up with the S400SP - which I hoped was compatible with the S400 drivers that were released in the IBM Omni driver package in January. As it turns out, they are, with a few limitations. Namely, the OS/2 drivers don't give the ability to align the print heads like the Windows drivers do. The option is there in the Maintenance tab of the Omni driver, but is greyed out. Secondly, the Omni driver only offers print resolutions of 360x360 where the printer can do 1440x720. Finally, printouts of photos appear on paper very pale or "washed out" compared to printouts from Windows. In spite of the above, I'm quite pleased with the printer - for around $A 250 it offers pretty good value IMHO. I also bought myself a new Yamaha 20x 10x 40x EIDE CDRW to replace my Yamaha 6x 4x 16x SCSI CDRW which is also working great with both RSJ and CDRecord. If any Aussies (preferably Adelaideans) are interested in a used SCSI CDRW and ISA SCSI Card (if needed) let me know off-list. Regards, Paul. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 22:05:42 -0500 (EST) From: "amoht" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Mozilla alterations On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 23:34:52 +1100 (EDT), David Forrester wrote: >Create a program object with: >- mozilla.exe as the program name. You probably will need the path as >well >- "-turbo" as the parameter (no quotes) >- the directory that mozilla.exe is in as the working directory. Thanks David I created a program object using my Mozilla.exe desktop icon context menu and then put the parameter -turbo in and it worked. At first it didn't because I was typing turbo with a capital T. However I then found that I couldn't shut ECS down so had to make another program object with the parameter -kill. By clicking on this before I shut down the shut down goes ahead. I then put the Mozilla turbo object in my startup folder and although it takes a little longer to start up I can then start Mozilla much quicker. I don't know why I was able to shut down without problems when I used a command line with the turbo switch previously. Must have something to do with the objects created. Thanks also for your other advice. I'll look at the sites you listed. Regards' Alan Duval ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 22:09:01 +1000 (EST) From: "John Angelico" Subject: [os2genau] Computer version: arrival of latest Angelico Announcing the release of Angelico v2.7 for OS/2 & eCS Fully qualified name: Alethea Ellen Angelico File type: Female Release Date: 19 Mar 2002 Timestamp: 13:48 AEDT (UTC 3:48 +10) File size: 3.73Kg or 8lb 3oz (unzipped) Creation Date: 9 months ago (as if you really need to know!) Extended Attributes: Hair: long, straight, black Eyes: Slate blue Condition: excellent Compatibility: fully compatible with all earlier versions of Angelico 2 Translation out of geek-speak: Oh boy! Oh boy! Oh boy! Oh boy! IT'S A GIRL: Alethea Ellen Angelico Born 19th March, 1:48pm, by Caesarian, weight 3.7309kg or 8lb. 3.5ozs., and welcomed by Michael (20), Chris (18), Gabrielle (12), David (9), Tim (7), Stephen (5) and of course mum & dad, Marjo and John Angelico. We praise God for this extra blessing and for His protection and care: Mother and baby are well. Please pass on the good news!! Hospital visiting hours: Mt Waverley Private Hospital, 343-357 Blackburn Rd Mt Waverley 3:30-5pm and 6:30-8pm John Angelico Co-convener MelbPC OS/2 SIG PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... Yes, son, long ago, mail was actually written with pen and paper. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 22:30:00 +1100 (EDT) From: "List Admin" Subject: [os2genau] Reminder - Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting Date: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 Time: 6:30PM - 9:30PM Place: Melbourne PC Group Victoria, Australia. The Monthly Meeting of Melbourne OS/2 SIG Normally held the fourth Tuesday of each month. "Calendar" of events can be found via the list page. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 22:31:16 +1100 (EDT) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Computer version: arrival of latest Angelico Hi John >Announcing the release of Angelico v2.7 for OS/2 & eCS Congratulations, keep my Cigar for the April meeting ;-) Cheers Ian B Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 22:28:58 +1100 (EDT) From: "Daryl Pilkington" Subject: Re: [os2genau] RAID on 386HPFS Thanks Ed, Its software RAID:- Fault Tolerance in Warp Server Advanced. We are looking for the documentation on it. On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:51:46 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: >Are you talking about a hardware raid implementation - ie Servraid ?? > >or software ?? > >I would strongly advise AGAINST a software implementation! > >The hardware implementation is OS independant although monitoring >software is ofcourse OS specific. > >Cheers/2 >Ed. > >Daryl Pilkington wrote: >> >> Hi Ed, >> I'd like to implement drive mirroring too, (RAID 1), using Fault >> Tolerance in Warp Server Advanced. >> >> As usual, the IBM documentation is useless, referring to a document: >> >> LAN Server Network Adminstrator Reference Volume 3: >> Network Administrator Tasks >> >> Where can I get this from? >> Has anyone setup Fault Tolerance before? >> How do you prepare the secondary drive? >> SNIP > Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au ICQ: 91914134 Mob: 0425-251-300 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 23:00:30 +1100 From: Peter Subject: Re: [os2genau] Computer version: arrival of latest Angelico John, With a family as large as yours, its nice to know that at least ONE family is tackling the age-ing population problem. Congrats Peter John Angelico wrote: > Announcing the release of Angelico v2.7 for OS/2 & eCS > > Fully qualified name: Alethea Ellen Angelico > File type: Female > Release Date: 19 Mar 2002 > Timestamp: 13:48 AEDT (UTC 3:48 +10) > File size: 3.73Kg or 8lb 3oz (unzipped) > Creation Date: 9 months ago (as if you really need to know!) > Extended Attributes: > Hair: long, straight, black > Eyes: Slate blue > Condition: excellent > Compatibility: fully compatible with all earlier versions of > Angelico 2 > > Translation out of geek-speak: > > Oh boy! Oh boy! Oh boy! Oh boy! > > IT'S A GIRL: Alethea Ellen Angelico > > Born 19th March, 1:48pm, by Caesarian, weight 3.7309kg or 8lb. 3.5ozs., and > welcomed by Michael (20), Chris (18), Gabrielle (12), David (9), Tim (7), > Stephen (5) and of course mum & dad, Marjo and John Angelico. > > We praise God for this extra blessing and for His protection and care: > Mother and baby are well. > > Please pass on the good news!! > > Hospital visiting hours: > Mt Waverley Private Hospital, > 343-357 Blackburn Rd Mt Waverley > 3:30-5pm and 6:30-8pm > > John Angelico > Co-convener > MelbPC OS/2 SIG > > PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico > ... Yes, son, long ago, mail was actually written with pen and paper. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 14 ==========================** Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 23:33:53 +1100 (EDT) From: "David Forrester" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Mozilla alterations On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 22:05:42 -0500 (EST), amoht wrote: >On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 23:34:52 +1100 (EDT), David Forrester wrote: > >>Create a program object with: >>- mozilla.exe as the program name. You probably will need the path as >>well >>- "-turbo" as the parameter (no quotes) >>- the directory that mozilla.exe is in as the working directory. > > >Thanks David > >I created a program object using my Mozilla.exe desktop icon context menu and then put the parameter >-turbo in and it worked. At first it didn't because I was typing turbo with a capital T. >However I then found that I couldn't shut ECS down so had to make another program object with the >parameter -kill. By clicking on this before I shut down the shut down goes ahead. >I then put the Mozilla turbo object in my startup folder and although it takes a little longer to start up I can then >start Mozilla much quicker. >I don't know why I was able to shut down without problems when I used a command line with the turbo >switch previously. Must have something to do with the objects created. The shutdown problem has been reported before. I don't know why there's a difference between starting from the command line and from an object. If it really doesn't halt the shutdown, you could try starting it from the STARTUP.CMD (via a START command). The solution others have used is to put the kill object in something like XWorkplace's shutdown folder (there's at least one other tool out there that will do it, but everyone should be using XWorkplace). > >Thanks also for your other advice. I'll look at the sites you listed. I had another play with uabar today. And it does work as described. It was a matter of following the instructions. So, this looks good for anyone who wants to be able to change the useragent without restarting Mozilla. -- David Forrester davidforatterrigal dot net dot au http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------