From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 00:00:07 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 308 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Thursday 28 March 2002 Number 308 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 [os2genau] CopyShop 2.0 JPG settings : Daryl Pilkington" 2 Re: [os2genau] CopyShop 2.0 JPG settings : Voytek Eymont 3 Re: [os2genau] CopyShop 2.0 JPG settings : Daryl Pilkington" 4 Re: [os2genau] CopyShop 2.0 JPG settings : Voytek Eymont 5 Re: [os2genau] CopyShop 2.0 JPG settings : Daryl Pilkington" 6 Re: [os2genau] CopyShop 2.0 JPG settings : Voytek Eymont 7 Re: [os2genau] CopyShop 2.0 JPG settings : Daryl Pilkington" 8 Re: [os2genau] CopyShop 2.0 JPG settings : Ed Durrant 9 [os2genau] Active site across the water. : Ed Durrant **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 06:53:40 +1100 (EDT) From: "Daryl Pilkington" Subject: [os2genau] CopyShop 2.0 JPG settings Hi, What settings do I use to get a plain-vanilla JPG file from CopyShop suitable for attaching to an email? Its got 101 formats, various JPG flavours but the on-line waffles on, but doesn't answer the above question. Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au ICQ: 91914134 Mob: 0425-251-300 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:54:01 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: [os2genau] CopyShop 2.0 JPG settings ** Reply to note from "Daryl Pilkington" Thu, 28 Mar 2002 06:53:40 +1100 (EDT) > What settings do I use to get a plain-vanilla JPG file from CopyShop > suitable for attaching to an email? > > Its got 101 formats, various JPG flavours but the on-line waffles on, > but doesn't answer the above question. all and any of the 101 formats are suitable for attaching to an email... ;>) Voytek Eymont SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/ phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:10:35 +1100 (EDT) From: "Daryl Pilkington" Subject: Re: [os2genau] CopyShop 2.0 JPG settings Thanks Voytek, Sorry, I don't think so, if you want people to be able to view them :) On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:54:01, Voytek Eymont wrote: >** Reply to note from "Daryl Pilkington" Thu, 28 Mar 2002 06:53:40 +1100 (EDT) > SNIP > >all and any of the 101 formats are suitable for attaching to an email... > Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au ICQ: 91914134 Mob: 0425-251-300 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:37:40 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: [os2genau] CopyShop 2.0 JPG settings ** Reply to note from "Daryl Pilkington" Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:10:35 +1100 (EDT) > Thanks Voytek, > Sorry, I don't think so, if you want people to be able to view them :) then perhaps that's what you should ask... anyhow, even so, any of these formats will open with CopyShop, tell them to get CopyShop, still a bargain after all these years; I'd imaging PMV will open all and any, and then some, also, Galleria will open most CopyShop/Lead libraries conform to industry image file standards, tell your user to use an application that conforms to industry image file standards... and if it all fails, select the JPEG format, CS has just one format marked as 'JPEG' Voytek Eymont SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/ phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:05:17 +1100 (EDT) From: "Daryl Pilkington" Subject: Re: [os2genau] CopyShop 2.0 JPG settings Thanks Voytek, Sending things in proprietary formats is Not A Good Idea, nor requiring the recipient to purchase/download another program to view it. Err, "industry image file standards", could you be more specific? I tried the CopyShop JPEG option, but I couldn't open it in GBMV/2. Could you email me directly a small JPG scan to demonstrate it works & what settings you use? On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:37:40, Voytek Eymont wrote: > SNIP > >then perhaps that's what you should ask... > >anyhow, even so, any of these formats will open with CopyShop, tell them to get >CopyShop, still a bargain after all these years; > >I'd imaging PMV will open all and any, and then some, also, Galleria will open >most > >CopyShop/Lead libraries conform to industry image file standards, tell your user >to use an application that conforms to industry image file standards... > >and if it all fails, select the JPEG format, CS has just one format marked >as 'JPEG' > SNIP > Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au ICQ: 91914134 Mob: 0425-251-300 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:47:32 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: [os2genau] CopyShop 2.0 JPG settings ** Reply to note from "Daryl Pilkington" Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:05:17 +1100 (EDT) > Sending things in proprietary formats is Not A Good Idea, nor requiring > the recipient to purchase/download another program to view it. absolutely agreed hmmm, seems, I was wrong in assuming the one marked 'JPEG' was the one to use....: seems, the last 3 formats *do* use proprietary compression.. anyhow, the 1st three do not: 02-03-28 12:28 2518461 0 001.JPG 02-03-28 12:28 1371615 0 002.JPG 02-03-28 12:29 1731909 0 003.JPG 02-03-28 12:29 2519029 0 004.JPG 02-03-28 12:29 1372183 0 005.JPG 02-03-28 12:29 1732477 0 006.JPG and, reducing Q: JFIF 02-03-28 12:38 140113 0 007.JPG JFIF LEAD1 02-03-28 12:38 107284 0 008.JPG JFIF LEAD2 02-03-28 12:39 118512 0 009.JPG > Err, "industry image file standards", could you be more specific? > > I tried the CopyShop JPEG option, but I couldn't open it in GBMV/2. > Could you email me directly a small JPG scan to demonstrate it works & > what settings you use? (until 5 minutes ago) I didn't even realize I can scan in COLOR in CS, I had mine set to B&W; somehow, when scanning in color, I always use Galleria, for scanning 2 fax, CS2, I've used Galleria for scanning since before CS2 exited, hence.. and, find Galleria consderably 'handier' for image scans, edits,trims, merges, etc.. anyhow, I've set CS2 to color, and looking at file size, I'd say the 2nd J format is what I'd use, I'll send you the smaller SAVE-ASes to see if whatever opens it, Voytek Eymont SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/ phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:00:49 +1100 (EDT) From: "Daryl Pilkington" Subject: Re: [os2genau] CopyShop 2.0 JPG settings Thanks again Voytek, I can confirm: 007.jpg 008.jpg 009.jpg Gall.jpg (sent directly to me) All open in GBMV/2. So, I will re-examine the settings used for your samples & attempt to reproduce your settings for my scans. Thanks for the pointers. On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:47:32, Voytek Eymont wrote: >** Reply to note from "Daryl Pilkington" Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:05:17 +1100 (EDT) > SNIP > >hmmm, seems, I was wrong in assuming the one marked 'JPEG' was the one to >use....: > >seems, the last 3 formats *do* use proprietary compression.. > >anyhow, the 1st three do not: > >02-03-28 12:28 2518461 0 001.JPG >02-03-28 12:28 1371615 0 002.JPG >02-03-28 12:29 1731909 0 003.JPG >02-03-28 12:29 2519029 0 004.JPG >02-03-28 12:29 1372183 0 005.JPG >02-03-28 12:29 1732477 0 006.JPG > >and, reducing Q: > >JFIF 02-03-28 12:38 140113 0 007.JPG >JFIF LEAD1 02-03-28 12:38 107284 0 008.JPG >JFIF LEAD2 02-03-28 12:39 118512 0 009.JPG > > SNIP > >anyhow, I've set CS2 to color, and looking at file size, I'd say the 2nd J >format is what I'd use, I'll send you the smaller SAVE-ASes to see if >whatever opens it, > Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au ICQ: 91914134 Mob: 0425-251-300 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:51:25 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] CopyShop 2.0 JPG settings I've had Jpegs that can't be opened in OS/2 graphics programs but opened OK in browsers - is this a reasonable "viewer standard" that everyone has ? Cheers/2 Ed. Daryl Pilkington wrote: > > Thanks Voytek, > Sending things in proprietary formats is Not A Good Idea, nor requiring > the recipient to purchase/download another program to view it. > > Err, "industry image file standards", could you be more specific? > > I tried the CopyShop JPEG option, but I couldn't open it in GBMV/2. > Could you email me directly a small JPG scan to demonstrate it works & > what settings you use? > > On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:37:40, Voytek Eymont wrote: > > > SNIP > > > >then perhaps that's what you should ask... > > > >anyhow, even so, any of these formats will open with CopyShop, tell them to get > >CopyShop, still a bargain after all these years; > > > >I'd imaging PMV will open all and any, and then some, also, Galleria will open > >most > > > >CopyShop/Lead libraries conform to industry image file standards, tell your user > >to use an application that conforms to industry image file standards... > > > >and if it all fails, select the JPEG format, CS has just one format marked > >as 'JPEG' > > > SNIP > > > > Regards, > > Daryl Pilkington > > //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration > O \_/ > OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 > IBM Certified Systems Expert > > email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au > ICQ: 91914134 > Mob: 0425-251-300 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 19:25:48 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: [os2genau] Active site across the water. As our near neighbours, the NZ OS/2 Website seems quite active - checkout http://www.os2 dot org.nz Perhaps we should add a link to the os2 dot org dot au home page ?? Cheers/2 Ed. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------