From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 00:00:07 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 355 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Monday 27 May 2002 Number 355 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 [os2genau] Web browsers : Kev Downes 2 Re: [os2genau] Web browsers : Ian Manners" 3 [os2genau] I lose Warp after installing FP15 : Glenn & Joyce Montgomery <98os2genaudigestb6> 4 [os2genau] interesting : Kev Downes 5 Re: [os2genau] Web browsers : Ed Durrant 6 Re: [os2genau] I lose Warp after installing FP15 : Ed Durrant **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 08:48:04 +0900 From: Kev Downes Subject: [os2genau] Web browsers Hi all Im now have available to me Netscape 4.61 (latest release) Mozilla rc2 IBM Web Browser 1.2 0.9.4 What's current opinion about which 1 of these is best? I realize that they're all variations on the same theme, but perhaps 1 has more of whatever to make it a better choice. Opera isn't a choice for me, as I already have these 3 without spending any more cash. Thanx gize Kev ========================= Kev Downes Windows is not the answer. Windows is the question. The answer is NO! We use and recommend IBM OS/2 Warp and Serenity System's eComStation. ========================= "Jesus Christ is the centre of everything and the object of everything; and he who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world and nothing of himself." Blaise Pascal ========================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 12:30:33 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Web browsers Hi Kev Netscape 4.61 (latest release) The old workhorse, good for general everyday speedy work and can be loaded on the PC along side OS2Web. Use this if you have an older PC under 400Mhz. Mozilla rc2 IBM Web Browser 1.2 0.9.4 I would chose the IBM WebBrowser over Mozilla, more stable, and a few small extras. Use this if you have a PIII 500Mhz PC and higher, or you are having problems with some Microsoft type websites. As both main variants can be loaded and run at the same time on the same PC, if you have the space I would load both NS and OS2Web and see what your personal tastes dictate. As OS2Web has improved, I find myself know using it for 99% of all my browsing. I dont use any browser product for email so I couldnt tell you about that part. Cheers Ian B Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ Chairman Bill, a legend in his own mind.... or out of it! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 11:20:06 +1000 From: Glenn & Joyce Montgomery <98os2genaudigestb6> Subject: [os2genau] I lose Warp after installing FP15 From: Glenn & Joyce Montgomery Hello there, I am coming to you guys with a bit of a problem. I have just upgraded my hard disk to a 40G. My layout is as follows: WIN2000 4G WARP4 2G Boot Manager Logical Drives (NTFS, FAT32 & HPFS) Everything runs fine with the base Warp installed (fresh from the original CD) and using Daniela's DaniS506 driver for the large sized disk. My problem happens when I would like to install a fixpack onto warp so I could do the basic things - like greater than 640X480 res etc. But as soon as I have installed the fixpack (I have tried both FP15 and FP12 on this new disk, I have used FP12 before on a smaller disk 13G successfully), once it has rebooted to process the locked drivers, it displays a message (something to do with a line in config.sys) which is too quick for me to read, then reboots. When I try to boot to Warp, it gets to the white OS/2 box at top left only for an instant, then reboots again. I don't even have time to get to ALT-F1. Any help would be greater than great. Many Thanks Glenn Montgomery ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 15:48:08 +0900 From: Kev Downes Subject: [os2genau] interesting Now I know this is far from OS/2_eCS business, but go and have a look at this site anyway and see what you think. Kev ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following message is forwarded to you by Kev Downes ------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://asile dot org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm ----------------------------------------------------- -- End of forwarded message ----------------------------------------------------- ========================= Kev Downes Windows is not the answer. Windows is the question. The answer is NO! We use and recommend IBM OS/2 Warp and Serenity System's eComStation. ========================= "Jesus Christ is the centre of everything and the object of everything; and he who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world and nothing of himself." Blaise Pascal ========================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 19:55:52 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] Web browsers Well Kev, People don't realise it but there's an aweful lot of browsers out there that will run under OS/2, I can think of the following: IBM Web Explorer (this came with the original Warp) There's one I can't remember the name of but used a sailing ship as its logo - it was one of the first not only to incorporate mail and news but also IRC if I remember correctly - can anyone else remember what this was called? Then Netscape came onto the scene, the main releases being NS 2.02 NS 4.04 & NS 4.61 (there were also some intermediate releases). Then we have many versions of Mozilla/2 aka Warpzilla (I think the compiler used was the difference between the two versions) it's present version is 1.0 release candidate 3 and works well (it's great fun to run this with the IE Theme (skin) and confuse colleagues !). The IBM Browser (aka Quint) came as 1.0, 1.1 and now 1.2 - this is based on the 0.94 build of Mozilla/2 with some IBM additions. As you mentioned there's Opera 5.1 presently in it's 2nd beta (and hence still free for the time being). But there's More .... Character mode Browsers are VERY fast and some peoples favourites compiled usually from Linux versions to OS/2 are LINKS LYNX e-Links And the latest Netscape 7.0 apparently installs and runs via ODIN under OS/2 however there are some font problems. Quite a choice ! At the moment my favourite is Mozilla/2 1.0 RC3, but my default browser remains NS 4.61 Cheers/2 Ed. Kev Downes wrote: > > Hi all > > Im now have available to me Netscape 4.61 (latest release) > Mozilla rc2 > IBM Web Browser 1.2 0.9.4 > > What's current opinion about which 1 of these is best? I realize that > they're all variations on the same theme, but perhaps 1 has more of > whatever to make it a better choice. Opera isn't a choice for me, as I > already have these 3 without spending any more cash. > > Thanx gize > Kev ========================= > Kev Downes > Windows is not the answer. Windows is the question. The answer is NO! > We use and recommend IBM OS/2 Warp and Serenity System's eComStation. ========================= > "Jesus Christ is the centre of everything and the object of everything; > and he who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world and > nothing of himself." Blaise Pascal ========================= > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 20:16:26 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] I lose Warp after installing FP15 During either install or FP application, Warp sometimes adds the line PAUSEONERROR=NO (or asomething like this) to Config.sys. It could also have added REIPL=YES, the combination of these two could be causing the problem. Restart the ststem and when you see the []OS/2 at the top left of the screen press alt+F1 - this will take you into the recovery screen. There is an option F2 I think to take you to the command line. Select this and when you get to the command prompt type TEDIT CONFIG.SYS when this character editor loads, press the escape kwy to be taken into the data portion of the screen a,d go down with the arrow keys until you find either the PAUSEONERROR and/or REIPL line(s) and add REM and a space at the beginning of them. Press F4 to file the amended file and when back at the command prompt once more, press ctrl+Alt+Del to restart the system. Hopefully this time the system will stop so that you can see the problem. If it appears to be a video problem, going back via alt+F1 to the recovery screen and selecting F3 (I think-check before you press it), should reload the standard VGA drivers and the system should boot. If this is the case, throw away the video card driverrs that you are using and find some that work. You may wish to try to use the Scitech Display Doctor drivers which cover a lot of the more common, and some not so common video chip sets. Good Luck Cheers/2 Ed. Glenn & Joyce Montgomery wrote: > > From: Glenn & Joyce Montgomery > Hello there, > > I am coming to you guys with a bit of a problem. I have just upgraded my > hard disk to a 40G. My layout is as follows: > > WIN2000 4G > WARP4 2G > Boot Manager > Logical Drives (NTFS, FAT32 & HPFS) > > Everything runs fine with the base Warp installed (fresh from the original > CD) and using Daniela's DaniS506 driver for the large sized disk. > > My problem happens when I would like to install a fixpack onto warp so I > could do the basic things - like greater than 640X480 res etc. But as soon > as I have installed the fixpack (I have tried both FP15 and FP12 on this > new disk, I have used FP12 before on a smaller disk 13G successfully), once > it has rebooted to process the locked drivers, it displays a message > (something to do with a line in config.sys) which is too quick for me to > read, then reboots. When I try to boot to Warp, it gets to the white OS/2 > box at top left only for an instant, then reboots again. I don't even have > time to get to ALT-F1. > > Any help would be greater than great. > > Many Thanks > Glenn Montgomery > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------