From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 00:01:06 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 387 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Saturday 06 July 2002 Number 387 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator : Ed Durrant 2 Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator : Voytek Eymont 3 Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator : Voytek Eymont 4 [os2genau] Problems with ATAPI Pioneer CDRW/DVD rom reader under RSJ. : Robert Traynor (BobT)" 5 Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator : Paul Smedley" 6 Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator : voytek" 7 Re: [os2genau] Problems with ATAPI Pioneer CDRW/DVD rom reader under RSJ. : Richard R. Pufky" 8 Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator : Richard R. Pufky" 9 Re: [os2genau] Problems with ATAPI Pioneer CDRW/DVD rom reader under RSJ. : Robert Traynor (BobT)" 10 Re: [os2genau] Problems with ATAPI Pioneer CDRW/DVD rom reader under RSJ. : Richard R. Pufky" 11 Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator : Ian Manners" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 08:02:19 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator What is this "Bovine" client ? Bovine to me, means something related to a cow ! Actually with the test programs I have already been pointed to via several members including Kenneth from Denmark and of course Ian, have proved what I thought - that with a PIII on a PC100 M747 motherboard, changing the multiplier in the BIOS (to try to overclock the chip) has absolutely no effect, although the Bios indicates a speed of 550, 600 or 650 MHz (There's no way it'll run at 650 - I was just trying to prove the point), the Chip continues to run at its standard 500 MHz, no matter what ! Thanks for everyones help Ed. Voytek Eymont wrote: > > ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant Fri, 05 Jul 2002 17:22:16 +1000 > > > The situation I have is that the CPU speed is set in the BIOS and I have > > increased the multiplier there. Everything seems to work fine, but I see > > no difference and I want to prove that the speed has actually changed - > > I think it hasn't. This is one of my PC CHIPS motherboards that have > > brought me trouble before and yes, it's time I got something a bit more > > up to date, but ... it's more of a challenge to get these boards to work > > correctly !! > > if you run RC56 Bovine client, you'll see the difference easily. > > when I compared PPro150/180 RC56 result vs PII300, the difference was purely > proporational to raw MGhz, that's all > > Voytek Eymont > SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd > http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/ > phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 10:50:42 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant Sat, 06 Jul 2002 08:02:19 +1000 > What is this "Bovine" client ? Bovine to me, means something related to > a cow ! http://www.distributed dot net/download/clients.html#os2 [F:\rc56]dnetc distributed dot net client for OS/2 Copyright 1997-1999, distributed dot net DES bitslice driver Copyright 1997-1998, Andrew Meggs DES sboxes routines Copyright 1997-1998, Matthew Kwan DES search routines Copyright 1997-1998, Svend Olaf Mikkelsen Please visit http://www.distributed dot net/ for up-to-date contest information. dnetc v2.8003-448-CTR-99121410 for OS/2. Please provide the *entire* version descriptor when submitting bug reports. The distributed dot net bug report pages are at http://www.distributed dot net/bugs/ Using email address (distributed dot net ID) 'voytekatsbt dot net dot au' [Jul 05 23:42:09 UTC] Automatic processor detection found 1 processor. [Jul 05 23:42:09 UTC] Automatic processor type detection found an Intel Pentium II processor. [Jul 05 23:42:09 UTC] RC5: using core #2 (RG class 6). [Jul 05 23:42:09 UTC] Loaded RC5 4*2^28 packet 5CDB67B6:80000000 (15.30% done) [Jul 05 23:42:09 UTC] 4 RC5 packets (13 work units) remain in buff-in.rc5 [Jul 05 23:42:09 UTC] 6 RC5 packets (20 work units) are in buff-out.rc5 [Jul 05 23:42:09 UTC] 1 cruncher has been started. .....10%..R it's a number cruncher. you can quickly see how fas your CPU crunches, if altering speed doesn;t make it crunch faster, it hasn't altered Voytek Eymont SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/ phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:36:36 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator ** Reply to note from "Ian Manners" Fri, 05 Jul 2002 23:56:45 +1000 (EST) > PIII-450 1.26Mkey > Celeron-500 1.28Mkey > PIII-500 1.40Mkey > PIII-600 1.67Mkey > PIII-650 1.81Mkey > Mac G4 400Mhz = 3.95Mkey with a PII300, I just don't rate anymore....very sad... 0.00:19:15.41 - [787,131.25 keys/sec] 0.00:19:15.41 - [787.13 kkeys/s] 0.00:22:19.00 - [801,898.30 keys/sec] 0.00:41:34.41 - [795.05 kkeys/s] MGhz result res/freq *1000 450 1.26 28 C500 1.28 25.6 500 1.4 28 600 1.67 27.83 650 1.81 27.84 Mac400 3.95 98.75 300 0.8 26.666666666667 Voytek Eymont SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/ phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 15:08:22 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert Traynor (BobT)" Subject: [os2genau] Problems with ATAPI Pioneer CDRW/DVD rom reader under RSJ. Hi All, I am using RSJ 3.61 (and have tried the latest 4.04 as well) on my Pioneer DCR-111 atapi CDRW burner and DVD reader. That is, it is all in one unit. Both a CDRW and a DVD reader. My system is a combined IDE and Ultra160 SCSI and running eCS v1.01. After a lot of tweaks and RTFM'ing the changes to my system are as follows. I have fitted a 80 wire cable to the 2nd IDE channel as documented in Dani's doc file. I have the following to turn DMA on to the CDRW/DVD rom drive:- BASEDEV=DANIS506.ADD /A:1 /U:1 /BM The above is from my config.sys where the CDRW/DVD rom reader is on the 2nd IDE channel and is a slave to a zip 100 drive. I have the DANIAtapi filter now positioned AFTER my scsi Ultra 160 Adaptec card (although it made no difference):- basedev=daniatap.flt /v /EJ /A:1 /U:1 /RSJ /SCSI I should add that the dani utilities confirm these Dani related settings are working correctly.! One suggestion on the newsgroups was to put the line DEVICE=D:\OS2\BOOT\OS2CDROM.DMD /Q after the RSJ software. This made no difference at all. I have NOT remmed out the BASEDEV=LOCKCDR.FLT as RSJ will not even try and work without it. The only RSJ line I have remmed out is:- rem BASEDEV=RSJIDECD.FLT And it made no difference with it activated either. All other settings where as made by the RSJ installation. I now have one drive icon for the same drive as a cd reader or dvd reader and a separate drive letter appears when the RSJ software "attaches" the drive as a CDR/CDRW. I can write a very small text file to the CDR blank but not to a CDRW blank. And I cannot write any large files or whole directories to a CDR or a CDRW blank at all.! Too bad it is unreliable and unusable as a CDR/CDRW burner. Works 100% as a dvd reader or cd reader though. Sigh. Perhaps RSJ will bring out a new version soon (I hope).! I don't think they have written anything into their software to support CDRW/DVD readers yet. Hope I am wrong though. :-) Any meaningful suggestions.? Regards, BobT. ,-._|\ Robert Traynor (BobT) / Oz \ email rtraynoratoptusnet dot com dot au \_,--.x/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 18:46:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Paul Smedley" Subject: Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator Athlon XP 2000+ 5.40 Mkey/sec :) On Fri, 05 Jul 2002 23:56:45 +1000 (EST), Ian Manners wrote: >>if you run RC56 Bovine client, you'll see the difference easily. > >PIII-450 1.26Mkey >Celeron-500 1.28Mkey >PIII-500 1.40Mkey >PIII-600 1.67Mkey >PIII-650 1.81Mkey >Mac G4 400Mhz = 3.95Mkey > >:-) > >Cheers >Ian B Manners >http://www.os2site dot com/ > >All wiyht. Rho sritched mg kegtops awound? > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 21:33:35 +1000 From: "voytek" Subject: Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator On Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:36:36, Voytek Eymont wrote: MGhz result res/freq 450 1.26 28 C500 1.28 25.6 500 1.4 28 600 1.67 27.83 650 1.81 27.84 Mac400 3.95 98.75 300 0.8 26.66 Athlon XP 2000+ 5.40 Mkey/sec :) 27 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 07:39:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard R. Pufky" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Problems with ATAPI Pioneer CDRW/DVD rom reader under RSJ. On Sat, 06 Jul 2002 15:08:22 +1000 (EST), Robert Traynor (BobT) wrote: > [snip problems with DVD-CDRW drive] >Any meaningful suggestions.? Have you attempted to use CDRecord at all? I've found that CDRecord works in many situations that RSJ does not... might be worth a shot (Although, I do know that RSJ is a very nice piece of software). If you need help getting it to work, just ask. Rick -- Check out the pictures of my baby girl! http://brennor.dyndns dot org/Daphne ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 08:04:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard R. Pufky" Subject: Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator On Sat, 06 Jul 2002 21:33:35 +1000, voytek wrote: >MGhz result res/freq >450 1.26 28 >C500 1.28 25.6 >500 1.4 28 >600 1.67 27.83 >650 1.81 27.84 > >Mac400 3.95 98.75 > >300 0.8 26.66 > >Athlon XP 2000+ 5.40 Mkey/sec :) 27 Not quite right. The K7 XP 2000+ actually runs at 1.67 GHz. Since all of your other comparisons are by MHz, this one should be too. Makes the K7 look like it should too! (It is quite a bit faster than all the other x86 chips). Athlon XP 2000+ 5.40 Mkey/sec 32.39 And, just for comparison, a P4 2GHz (Northwood) can give you 2.878 Mkey/sec, for a whopping res/freq rate of 14.39 (boy! that was pretty tough to find through google...). According to this page, a P4 runs the client the same way a Pentium does: Also, according to this page, the K7 is the second fastest chip at RC5, behind the PowerPC (although, I don't see the Alpha in this roundup either!). Rick -- Check out the pictures of my baby girl! http://brennor.dyndns dot org/Daphne ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 22:26:29 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert Traynor (BobT)" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Problems with ATAPI Pioneer CDRW/DVD rom reader under RSJ. Hi Rick, Yes, I have tried CDRecord thru the GUI interface provided by CDRwiz. While I have yet to have another go at it, now that I have finally got the atapi system being recognised as scsi, initially I discovered that the CDRwiz/CDRecord only enabled drive letters upto M:. I need drive letters far beyond this. My last partition is O: and zip becomes Q:. My CD readers are S: T: with the cd/dvd reader as U: As I have said, I have yet to revisit CDRecord but initial fiddling was not hopeful. Naturally, I will rem out all the RSJ bits before attempting to run CDRecord etc. If you can give any pointers regarding CDRecord, I would much appreciate it. Initially I had trouble getting it to even load until Ian Manners gave me a zipped up file of his working system. I used this to overwrite the CDRwiz one I installed and at least I can now get the options up to check and play with settings etc. But until I can get a drive letter of at least V: I am shot. I did not say this previously, but the CDRW/DVD reader is ok in win2k and windows 98se with either Nero 5.5 or Easy CD Creator 5. Regards, BobT. On Sat, 06 Jul 2002 07:39:47 -0400 (EDT), Richard R. Pufky wrote: > On Sat, 06 Jul 2002 15:08:22 +1000 (EST), Robert Traynor (BobT) wrote: > > [snip problems with DVD-CDRW drive] > >Any meaningful suggestions.? > > Have you attempted to use CDRecord at all? I've found that CDRecord > works in many situations that RSJ does not... might be worth a shot > (Although, I do know that RSJ is a very nice piece of software). > > If you need help getting it to work, just ask. > Rick > > -- > Check out the pictures of my baby girl! > http://brennor.dyndns dot org/Daphne ,-._|\ Robert Traynor (BobT) / Oz \ email rtraynoratoptusnet dot com dot au \_,--.x/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 08:44:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard R. Pufky" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Problems with ATAPI Pioneer CDRW/DVD rom reader under RSJ. Hello, On Sat, 06 Jul 2002 22:26:29 +1000 (EST), Robert Traynor (BobT) wrote: >Yes, I have tried CDRecord thru the GUI interface provided by >CDRwiz. While I have yet to have another go at it, now that >I have finally got the atapi system being recognised as scsi, >initially I discovered that the CDRwiz/CDRecord only enabled >drive letters upto M:. I need drive letters far beyond this. Can't quite be true. I'm using T: as my burner letter. CDRecord works for this. I'm currently using: Cdrecord 1.11a05 (i386-pc-os2_emx) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling Of course, I've got sparse drive letters (I'm not using all of them between A and T). >If you can give any pointers regarding CDRecord, I would >much appreciate it. Initially I had trouble getting it to >even load until Ian Manners gave me a zipped up file of his >working system. I used this to overwrite the CDRwiz >one I installed and at least I can now get the options >up to check and play with settings etc. I'm leaving town in about 5 mins or so... but, see what the report of cdrecord -scanbus gives you. That is the biggest trick, I've found (and to get the right version of ASPIROUT). This is the output I get: scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST39204LW ' '0002' Disk 0,1,0 1) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST318436LW ' '0010' Disk 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * scsibus1: 1,0,0 100) * 1,1,0 101) 'LITE-ON ' 'LTR-32123S ' 'XS0K' Removable CD-ROM 1,2,0 102) 'MATSHITA' 'CD-ROM CR-586 ' 'KS14' Removable CD-ROM 1,3,0 103) * 1,4,0 104) * 1,5,0 105) * 1,6,0 106) * 1,7,0 107) * Got to go right now, but if you email back what you get, I'll respond to it tomorrow. HTH, Rick -- Check out the pictures of my baby girl! http://brennor.dyndns dot org/Daphne ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 22:58:02 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: [os2genau] CPU Speed Indicator Hi Paul >Athlon XP 2000+ 5.40 Mkey/sec :) Wifes Mac G4 933Mhz = 9.63Mkey ;-) Now, if I can only convert her from the Macs Rule to Team Warped. Cheers Ian B Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ recursive (ree 'cuhr siv) adj. - see recursive. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------