From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:01:04 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 402 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Sunday 21 July 2002 Number 402 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: [os2genau] Complex email, spam and security issues - suggestions please : Daryl Pilkington" 2 [os2genau] DVD/UDF support : Kev Downes 3 Re: [os2genau] DVD/UDF support : Ed Durrant 4 [os2genau] Internet telephony : Ed Durrant **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:44:02 +1000 (EST) From: "Daryl Pilkington" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Complex email, spam and security issues - suggestions please Hi Tony, I'll second Ian's suggestions they all make sense. For security & problem determination if something goes wrong, its A Good Idea to make your firewall a separate box, probably a P300 with 32MB RAM. This spec would easily run VPN & SQUID as a transparent http proxy if required in the future. Note these later 2 things are nice, but not essential, so get the basics working 1st. VPN, (Virtual Private Network), would be great to run DTOC, (Desktop-On-Call), remote control software to remotely control your office's computers. It means whilst at home, you are essentially on your work LAN. You could print to the printer, access files, run your accounting system, whatever. Your firewall could also be a smoothwall box: http://www.smoothwall dot org Its a custom Linux network appliance solution specifically designed as a firewall. It installs in 20min & is free. It would be much simpler than any OS/2 or eCS solution. A P300 with 32MB RAM & 500MB HDD would be just dandy, a P100 would be fine too, if you don't use VPN. You'll need to configure a dual-homed box, (viz. 2 network cards). Using 2 RealTek 8139C chipsets would be fine. There is a ListServ like this one for support. You will have to download the ISO CD image & burn it to a CD, but it is incredibly simple to configure & use. My only criticism is you really need to buy the corporate version to get full VPN functionality. I would suggest you try the SmoothWall solution 1st & as you get more comfortable with InJoy et-al move it that direction if you find Smoothwall restrictive. SmoothWall really is simple, give it a go 1st. I've used SmoothWall & InJoy & SmoothWall is easier, but currently I don't run VPN or a mail server behind my Smoothie, so Ian could offer some real-life InJoy vs SmoothWall comments about this sort of environment. For work, it sounds like you've got a switch & PCs to burn so that is A Good Thing. For home, look at something like the Alfa 4 port Broadband Router, it contains a 4 port switch, NAT, basic firewall & print server for about $200. You can literally plug it into your cable modem & you are ready to go. In the future you might want to plug more than 1 computer into the cable connection so the switch is A Good Idea. Planning for expansion, say you have siblings that want to access the net, you can plug a SmoothWall box into your cable modem instead. Next, disable the Alfa firewall function & only use the switch. SmootWall does full logging of all sites visited, so you can say to the kids: "O.K, you can use the Internet all you like, but remember, everything is logged..." On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:36:46 +1000 (EST), Ian Manners wrote: >Hi Tony > >lots of stuff > >For office use I would use an OS/2 (eCS) box with InJoy's firewall >and NATed address's. > >You could use TCP/IP v4.3x's buildin firewall but it can be dangerous >if you arent sure of what you are doing with TCP/IP packets, and it >doesnt do Network Address Translation (NAT). > >If you have one static IP at your office, check with your ISP that >you ARE allowed to use it for a server, if you are then you are >set. You can have your own mail server, on the firewall box, and >your ISP is then likely to allow you to use his mail server as a >secondary MX. > >If you control your own mailserver, then yes, you can have tonyat... >adminat..... as totally seperate accounts. You can also change >the email address on your website to a formbased address, or >ask you website hoster to use drop filters so that spammers cant >scan your website for email address harvesting. Though you can >just subscribe to an email Black Hole List which will get rid of a >lot for your spam for you as long as your mail server supports RBL's. > >Mail Server ? > >ZxMail or Weasel are excellent produces for your use. >Paul Hethmons inet.server is also good but pricey, and >is very much overkill for your setup. > >Using your own servers you can also use products like >WeaselFilter, as well as the servers capacity to refuse >email from spamsites that you can personally enter in. > >Always happy to talk with you about all this. > >Know any jobs going in the industry :-) > >Cheers >Ian B Manners >http://www.os2site dot com/ > >It could be worse... (BOOOM) It's worse. > > Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylpatpc-therapist dot com dot au Mob: 0425-251-300 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:20:08 +0900 From: Kev Downes Subject: [os2genau] DVD/UDF support Does anyone know if this new IBM driver, as mentioned on www.ecomstation dot com, is needed if you use Dani's drivers? Is it just an upgrade to the UDF.IFS file? Indeed, is it an upgrade to UDF.IFS at all? IBM CD-RW, DVD-ROM, DVD-RAM File System Support, Version 2.01 available on http://www.ecomstation dot com This software package provides OSTA UDF Revision 2.01 support. The package provides CD-RW, DDCD-RW (Double Density CD-RW), DVD-ROM and DVD-RAM file system support for OS/2 Warp. Submitted by: Bob St.John Thanx Kev ========================= Kev Downes Windows is not the answer. Windows is the question. The answer is NO! We use and recommend IBM OS/2 Warp and Serenity System's eComStation. ========================= "Jesus Christ is the centre of everything and the object of everything; and he who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world and nothing of himself." Blaise Pascal ========================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:22:01 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] DVD/UDF support This is support for CD-RW and DVD-RAM / DVD+ RW writing direct from the OS (ie "packet mode"). As far as I know, Danis drivers do do incorporate this function at all. It's the sort of thing that RSJ does (or Adaptecs packet writing product under Windoze). Unfortunatly as far as I can see, all of the different pieces of software seem to use their own standard of writing to eraseable discs, which means this support makes for good usage of the DVD-RW or CD-RW drivers for system backups (instead of tapes) but apart from that, not a lot of use. I have been using the previous version of this code and have now upgraded but I think the only additional function is the support for more DVD drives. My Ricoh CD-RW still works with the software but no improvement has been made on it's S ...... L ........ O ......... W ....... speed !! Cheers/2 Ed. Kev Downes wrote: > Does anyone know if this new IBM driver, as mentioned on > www.ecomstation dot com, is needed if you use Dani's drivers? Is it just an > upgrade to the UDF.IFS file? Indeed, is it an upgrade to UDF.IFS at all? > > IBM CD-RW, DVD-ROM, DVD-RAM File System Support, Version 2.01 available > on http://www.ecomstation dot com > > This software package provides OSTA UDF Revision 2.01 support. The > package provides CD-RW, DDCD-RW (Double Density > CD-RW), DVD-ROM and DVD-RAM file system support for OS/2 Warp. > > Submitted by: Bob St.John > > Thanx > Kev ========================= > Kev Downes > Windows is not the answer. Windows is the question. The answer is NO! > We use and recommend IBM OS/2 Warp and Serenity System's eComStation. ========================= > "Jesus Christ is the centre of everything and the object of everything; > and he who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world and > nothing of himself." Blaise Pascal ========================= > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:25:20 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: [os2genau] Internet telephony Does anyone on this list use any of the Internet Telephony companies services. Companies like Netscape sponsored Net2Phone or similar. Do any of these companies supply OS2 compatible software (or at least ODIN compatible) ? What is the quality like - is it acceptable telephone quality ? How reliable are the links ?? I'm looking for a way to call the US, the UK and Germany via the Internet. Any ideas / advice ? Cheers/2 Ed. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------