From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 00:01:05 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 413 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Sunday 04 August 2002 Number 413 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 [os2genau] Voice speakup with Serenity : Paul Smedley" 2 Re: [os2genau] Audio : Ed Durrant 3 [os2genau] speaking of audio??? : Gavin Miller" 4 Re: [os2genau] Audio : Daryl Pilkington" 5 Re: [os2genau] speaking of audio??? : Paul Smedley" 6 Re: [os2genau] speaking of audio??? : Gavin Miller" 7 Re: [os2genau] Audio : Ed Durrant 8 Re: [os2genau] speaking of audio??? : Ed Durrant 9 Re: [os2genau] speaking of audio??? : Kev Downes 10 Re: [os2genau] Audio : Graham Norton" 11 Re: [os2genau] Audio : Paul Smedley" 12 Re: [os2genau] Audio : Daryl Pilkington" 13 Re: [os2genau] Audio : Graham Norton" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 09:23:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Paul Smedley" Subject: [os2genau] Voice speakup with Serenity Starting at 9:30am Adelaide time this morning - go to irc://irc.us.webbnet dot org/#voice to participate! In Warpzillam just paste the above URL Regards, Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 10:00:56 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] Audio Daryl, Can the Mini-discs be simply dropped into a PC CD-Player aswell ? Rather than using USB ?? I checked out a Midi recording tool from Hobbes as a possible option for Graham, iunfortunately no good. The app was designed for OS/2 2.1 and the driver messed up the SB-Live drivers (audio, simply continually repeated itself ! Cheers/2 Ed. Daryl Pilkington wrote: > Hi Graham, > > Is this an analog dictaphone or a digital one? > > If its analog, you would have to record it real-time & then convert it > to a MP3 using LAME etc, (as already mentioned by Paul Smedley). > > This process would take as long as the recording, not much benefit, as > it would tie-up the dictaphone twice, once during recording, & again > during playback. > > Digital, different story, & sorry, easily done on a W2k box to get the > data from the Olympus, probably using USB link. > Easy to convert to a MP3 under W2k. > Copy the file to your file server & playback on any OS/2 box using > PM123. > > If it is an analog dictaphone, it would be an idea to look at the costs > of converting all dictaphones to the latest Sony recordable MiniDisc > machines. > They have an USB interface, so under W2k you can easily convert > recordings to MP3. > > They are near CD Quality, so they can be used for playing back music > too:- something the dictaphones are not capable of doing. > > The Minidiscs with USB & built-in Mics are not cheap, but neither are > the dictaphones... > > On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 13:11:09 +1100 (EDT), Graham Norton wrote: > > >Hello > > > >a colleague at work is putting pressure on me to install a Win box so that he can use the Olympus dictataphone and then > >send the audio files to his secretary and then she can listen and type... > > > SNIP > > > > Regards, > > Daryl Pilkington > > //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration > O \_/ > OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 > IBM Certified Systems Expert > > email: darylp at pc-therapist dot com dot au > Mob: 0425-251-300 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 11:31:28 +1100 (EDT) From: "Gavin Miller" Subject: [os2genau] speaking of audio??? Hi All, Has anyone heard of a utility for OS/2 to convert WAV's or MP3's to CD audio to play in normal CD players? Cheers G ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 11:43:38 +1000 (EST) From: "Daryl Pilkington" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Audio Hi Ed, Unfortunately, MiniDisc is not compatable with CD. This thread has got me thinking:- USB is usually seen as a mass-storage device, ie HDD. There is support for this under OS/2, so anyone who has made a useful digital recorder that records directly as MP3s should be able to be read under OS/2. Useful, meaning long recording time, (>30min) & inbuilt mic. However, Graham was looking for a usable, simple audio recorder for OS/2, I've used the default tools in Warp 4 & they are crap :) I too, would like to have a basic audio recorder for use under OS/2. On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 10:00:56 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote: >Daryl, Can the Mini-discs be simply dropped into a PC CD-Player aswell ? Rather than using USB ?? > >I checked out a Midi recording tool from Hobbes as a possible option for Graham, iunfortunately no good. The app was >designed for OS/2 2.1 and the driver messed up the SB-Live drivers (audio, simply continually repeated itself ! > > SNIP > Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylp at pc-therapist dot com dot au Mob: 0425-251-300 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 11:15:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Paul Smedley" Subject: Re: [os2genau] speaking of audio??? Gavin, Do yourself a favour and download AudioCDCreator from http://www.os2world dot com/cdwriting/creator/creatormain.htm that's what I've used to convert MP3->audio CD to play in the car. Regards, Paul. On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 11:31:28 +1100 (EDT), Gavin Miller wrote: >Hi All, > >Has anyone heard of a utility for OS/2 to convert WAV's or MP3's to CD audio to play in >normal CD players? > >Cheers >G > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 12:13:34 +1100 (EDT) From: "Gavin Miller" Subject: Re: [os2genau] speaking of audio??? Hi Paul, >Do yourself a favour and download AudioCDCreator from >http://www.os2world dot com/cdwriting/creator/creatormain.htm that's what I've used to >convert MP3->audio CD to play in the car. Consider it done :-)) Many Thanx G ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 17:19:50 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] Audio What about the Creative Labs OS/2 software ? Have you looked at that ? Ed. Daryl Pilkington wrote: > Hi Ed, > Unfortunately, MiniDisc is not compatable with CD. > > This thread has got me thinking:- USB is usually seen as a mass-storage > device, ie HDD. > There is support for this under OS/2, so anyone who has made a useful > digital recorder that records directly as MP3s should be able to be > read under OS/2. > Useful, meaning long recording time, (>30min) & inbuilt mic. > > However, Graham was looking for a usable, simple audio recorder for > OS/2, I've used the default tools in Warp 4 & they are crap :) > I too, would like to have a basic audio recorder for use under OS/2. > > On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 10:00:56 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote: > > >Daryl, Can the Mini-discs be simply dropped into a PC CD-Player aswell ? Rather than using USB ?? > > > >I checked out a Midi recording tool from Hobbes as a possible option for Graham, iunfortunately no good. The app was > >designed for OS/2 2.1 and the driver messed up the SB-Live drivers (audio, simply continually repeated itself ! > > > > > SNIP > > > > Regards, > > Daryl Pilkington > > //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration > O \_/ > OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 > IBM Certified Systems Expert > > email: darylp at pc-therapist dot com dot au > Mob: 0425-251-300 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 17:22:37 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] speaking of audio??? Any CD recording software (audio) should be able to write WAVs to CD-Rs so that they are playable in "normal" Audio CD Players. Checkout Audio CD-Creator as a front end to CDRecord/2 As for MP3's there are DOS program that can convert MP3 to WAV. (You need WAV for "normal" audio CDs). Ed. Gavin Miller wrote: > Hi All, > > Has anyone heard of a utility for OS/2 to convert WAV's or MP3's to CD audio to play in > normal CD players? > > Cheers > G > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 16:01:54 +0900 From: Kev Downes Subject: Re: [os2genau] speaking of audio??? In <3D4CD63D.D42533C1 at bigpond dot net dot au>, on 08/04/2002 at 05:22 PM, Ed Durrant said: >Any CD recording software (audio) should be able to write WAVs to CD-Rs >so that they are playable in "normal" Audio CD Players. That's right. I use RJS, and if I copy an audio CD track to hard drive it's stored as a .WAV, and if I copy a .WAV to a CDR it's playable in my CD deck. cheers Kev Downes ========================= Kev Downes Windows is not the answer. Windows is the question. The answer is NO! We use and recommend IBM OS/2 Warp and Serenity System's eComStation. ========================= "Jesus Christ is the centre of everything and the object of everything; and he who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world and nothing of himself." Blaise Pascal ========================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 18:44:54 +1100 (EDT) From: "Graham Norton" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Audio In reality he will dictate into an Olympus which is digital and there is a small RAM memory card and this plugs into a player and is the same then as a tape dictaphone... if there was some way to convert this to MP3 it would be great .... I know that the Olympus uses its own proprietart form of Sound file compression... what ever that is! On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 22:47:34 +1000 (EST), Daryl Pilkington wrote: >Hi Graham, > >Is this an analog dictaphone or a digital one? > >If its analog, you would have to record it real-time & then convert it >to a MP3 using LAME etc, (as already mentioned by Paul Smedley). > >This process would take as long as the recording, not much benefit, as >it would tie-up the dictaphone twice, once during recording, & again >during playback. > >Digital, different story, & sorry, easily done on a W2k box to get the >data from the Olympus, probably using USB link. >Easy to convert to a MP3 under W2k. >Copy the file to your file server & playback on any OS/2 box using >PM123. > >If it is an analog dictaphone, it would be an idea to look at the costs >of converting all dictaphones to the latest Sony recordable MiniDisc >machines. >They have an USB interface, so under W2k you can easily convert >recordings to MP3. > >They are near CD Quality, so they can be used for playing back music >too:- something the dictaphones are not capable of doing. > >The Minidiscs with USB & built-in Mics are not cheap, but neither are >the dictaphones... > > >On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 13:11:09 +1100 (EDT), Graham Norton wrote: > >>Hello >> >>a colleague at work is putting pressure on me to install a Win box so that he can use the Olympus dictataphone and then >>send the audio files to his secretary and then she can listen and type... >> >SNIP >> > >Regards, > >Daryl Pilkington > >//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration >O\_/ > OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 > IBM Certified Systems Expert > > email: darylp at pc-therapist dot com dot au > Mob: 0425-251-300 > > > Graham Norton FRACP Neurologist Smart Road Specialist Centre Modbury SA 5092 61 8 8265 4022 (Voice) 61 8 8386 1795 (Fax) gn at smart-road dot com dot au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 19:03:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Paul Smedley" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Audio Graham, Do you have a website with some specs for the Olympus dictaphone? Regards, Paul. On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 18:44:54 +1100 (EDT), Graham Norton wrote: >In reality he will dictate into an Olympus which is digital and there is a small RAM >memory card and this plugs into a player and is the same then as a tape >dictaphone... if there was some way to convert this to MP3 it would be great .... I >know that the Olympus uses its own proprietart form of Sound file compression... >what ever that is! > > >On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 22:47:34 +1000 (EST), Daryl Pilkington wrote: > >>Hi Graham, >> >>Is this an analog dictaphone or a digital one? >> >>If its analog, you would have to record it real-time & then convert it >>to a MP3 using LAME etc, (as already mentioned by Paul Smedley). >> >>This process would take as long as the recording, not much benefit, as >>it would tie-up the dictaphone twice, once during recording, & again >>during playback. >> >>Digital, different story, & sorry, easily done on a W2k box to get the >>data from the Olympus, probably using USB link. >>Easy to convert to a MP3 under W2k. >>Copy the file to your file server & playback on any OS/2 box using >>PM123. >> >>If it is an analog dictaphone, it would be an idea to look at the costs >>of converting all dictaphones to the latest Sony recordable MiniDisc >>machines. >>They have an USB interface, so under W2k you can easily convert >>recordings to MP3. >> >>They are near CD Quality, so they can be used for playing back music >>too:- something the dictaphones are not capable of doing. >> >>The Minidiscs with USB & built-in Mics are not cheap, but neither are >>the dictaphones... >> >> >>On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 13:11:09 +1100 (EDT), Graham Norton wrote: >> >>>Hello >>> >>>a colleague at work is putting pressure on me to install a Win box so that he can >use the Olympus dictataphone and then >>>send the audio files to his secretary and then she can listen and type... >>> >>SNIP >>> >> >>Regards, >> >>Daryl Pilkington >> >>//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration >>O>\_/ >> OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 >> IBM Certified Systems Expert >> >> email: darylp at pc-therapist dot com dot au >> Mob: 0425-251-300 >> >> >> > >Graham Norton FRACP >Neurologist > >Smart Road Specialist Centre >Modbury SA 5092 > >61 8 8265 4022 (Voice) >61 8 8386 1795 (Fax) >gn at smart-road dot com dot au > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 19:36:24 +1000 (EST) From: "Daryl Pilkington" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Audio Hi Graham, What model Olympus is he using? On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 18:44:54 +1100 (EDT), Graham Norton wrote: >In reality he will dictate into an Olympus which is digital and there is a small RAM >memory card and this plugs into a player and is the same then as a tape >dictaphone... if there was some way to convert this to MP3 it would be great .... I >know that the Olympus uses its own proprietart form of Sound file compression... >what ever that is! > SNIP > Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylp at pc-therapist dot com dot au Mob: 0425-251-300 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 20:07:21 +1100 (EDT) From: "Graham Norton" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Audio Its an Olympus DS 3000 I think http://ds3000.olympus dot com/ On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 19:03:23 -0400 (EDT), Paul Smedley wrote: >Graham, >Do you have a website with some specs for the Olympus dictaphone? > >Regards, > >Paul. > >On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 18:44:54 +1100 (EDT), Graham Norton wrote: > >>In reality he will dictate into an Olympus which is digital and there is a small RAM >>memory card and this plugs into a player and is the same then as a tape >>dictaphone... if there was some way to convert this to MP3 it would be great .... I >>know that the Olympus uses its own proprietart form of Sound file compression... >>what ever that is! >> >> >>On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 22:47:34 +1000 (EST), Daryl Pilkington wrote: >> >>>Hi Graham, >>> >>>Is this an analog dictaphone or a digital one? >>> >>>If its analog, you would have to record it real-time & then convert it >>>to a MP3 using LAME etc, (as already mentioned by Paul Smedley). >>> >>>This process would take as long as the recording, not much benefit, as >>>it would tie-up the dictaphone twice, once during recording, & again >>>during playback. >>> >>>Digital, different story, & sorry, easily done on a W2k box to get the >>>data from the Olympus, probably using USB link. >>>Easy to convert to a MP3 under W2k. >>>Copy the file to your file server & playback on any OS/2 box using >>>PM123. >>> >>>If it is an analog dictaphone, it would be an idea to look at the costs >>>of converting all dictaphones to the latest Sony recordable MiniDisc >>>machines. >>>They have an USB interface, so under W2k you can easily convert >>>recordings to MP3. >>> >>>They are near CD Quality, so they can be used for playing back music >>>too:- something the dictaphones are not capable of doing. >>> >>>The Minidiscs with USB & built-in Mics are not cheap, but neither are >>>the dictaphones... >>> >>> >>>On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 13:11:09 +1100 (EDT), Graham Norton wrote: >>> >>>>Hello >>>> >>>>a colleague at work is putting pressure on me to install a Win box so that he can >>use the Olympus dictataphone and then >>>>send the audio files to his secretary and then she can listen and type... >>>> >>>SNIP >>>> >>> >>>Regards, >>> >>>Daryl Pilkington >>> >>>//// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration >>>O>>\_/ >>> OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 >>> IBM Certified Systems Expert >>> >>> email: darylp at pc-therapist dot com dot au >>> Mob: 0425-251-300 >>> >>> >>> >> >>Graham Norton FRACP >>Neurologist >> >>Smart Road Specialist Centre >>Modbury SA 5092 >> >>61 8 8265 4022 (Voice) >>61 8 8386 1795 (Fax) >>gn at smart-road dot com dot au >> >> >> > > > > This e mail has been processed and sent using IBM Voice Type Dicatation for OS/2 Speech Advantage Medical for OS/2 PMMail V2 for OS/2 (To minimise internet /virus infection, I have a policy of not using Microsoft products) The contents of this email are confidental and may be protected by professional privilege. 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