From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 00:01:06 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 428 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Tuesday 20 August 2002 Number 428 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 [os2genau] ot: IDE setup; co-exist OS/2 and W2k; W2K boot disk ? : Voytek Eymont 2 Re: [os2genau] SW: WarpVision OS/2 Movie support ! : brianb at kdfisher dot com dot au 3 [os2genau] Most operating systems : Ian Manners" 4 Re: [os2genau] Most operating systems : Ed Durrant 5 Re: [os2genau] ot: IDE setup; co-exist OS/2 and W2k; W2K boot disk ? : Ed Durrant 6 Re: [os2genau] ot: IDE setup; co-exist OS/2 and W2k; W2K boot disk ? : Ian Manners" 7 Re: [os2genau] ot: IDE setup; co-exist OS/2 and W2k; W2K boot disk ? : voytek" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:55:18 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: [os2genau] ot: IDE setup; co-exist OS/2 and W2k; W2K boot disk ? back to my IDE Qs: when setting up IDE drives, what the preferred option: auto/auto ? auto/lba ? user defined ? I just tried transfering a 4 GB IDE from a clone to a Compaq deskpro, Compaq doesn't see existing data on the drives, and, with Compaq, there seems to be no user choice at setting up translation scheme, hence, my Q I guess, a translation scheme that can be used across different machines, is what I'd like. co-exist OS/2 and W2k I setup with LVM 20GB HD: BM, PRI, ext, ext, ext. the aim was, to have W2K and OS/2 OS/2 was installed on E: HPFS; I then, with LVM, pointed active primary to C: (not BM); rebooted, installed W2k w2k installed, booted, worked I then transferred active promary back to BM; BM, OS/2 boots OK BM, win2k says: damaged system32\ntoskrnl.exe, replace with a good one how to fix it, I can't even boot it ...? is there a way to make a W2K or an NTFS boot disk ? the ERD in W2K doesn't make a bootable disk; I tried booting from a NT4 CD, but that screwed up W2K , again, also with the dreaded: damaged system32\ntoskrnl.exe, replace with a good one Voytek Eymont SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/ phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:04:15 +1030 From: brianb at kdfisher dot com dot au Subject: Re: [os2genau] SW: WarpVision OS/2 Movie support ! Hi all, I have recently purchased an A-Open 16X DVD drive in Adelaide for $86 AUS and it works fine with OS/2 ----------------------------------------- Brian Butler System Administrator brianb at kdfisher dot com dot au Ed Durrant cc: Subject: Re: [os2genau] SW: WarpVision OS/2 Movie support ! 19/08/2002 05:52 PM Please respond to os2genau 16x DVD Rom drives are available pretty cheap at the moment - I think I saw one at $129 at Strathfields and I suspect it wont be long before they break the $100 barrier ! There's one additional piece of information though, I think the WarpVision Program (or possibly a codec that it uses) is crippled. That is it only plays a few minutes of the DVD Video. The audio keeps running but the Video stops. There's also a scrolling message to say that this is not a free part of WarpVisdion and to contact the author for further details. Since the product appears to work, I would quite happily pay a fair price to get the un-crippled version, perhaps once they've got the menus and sub-titles working. As for the Windows media format, all the links I can find seem to have ASX files, that contain some sort of instructions and as these don't execute in NS 461, I never get to the actual media file. I'll have to try with Mozilla and possibly Opera/2 to see if I get any further. Cheers/2 Ed. Voytek Eymont wrote: > ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant Sat, 17 Aug 2002 19:20:06 +1000 > > > I have read somewhere that this program also supports Microsoft media > > player format, but I haven't tried that yet. > > I've used WV to play a .wmv move, which, I think..? is the MS video format > (?) > > glad to hear you can playback DVDs, now all I need, is a DVD drive... > perhaps I can pull out the one in the ThinkPad > > Voytek Eymont > SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd > http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/ > phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:38:08 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: [os2genau] Most operating systems Hi Rang up a share trading company today, and asked about the access software they provide which they state is "For most operating systems"...... Hi, Will this software run under OS/2 ? >No Will it run under Mac OS9 or OSX ? >No How about Unix or Linux >Well, um, if you can get a Windows emulator then ... So it doesnt actually run under most operating systems ? >Well, it does, it runs under Windows98, Windows 2000 and >WindowsXP. ok, so the answer is no, do you provide any other, older versions of your software, or a web interface ? >Yes, we do provide a members service via the web, and that >should work with most operating systems. ok, so its just a secure HTTP interface ? >Yes, its a password protected area but you need to download >some software to access the features. What is the software, a JAVA module ? >No, its a Microsoft Visual .NET plugin for Internet Explorer. ok, so what your telling me is that I still require a flavour of Windows ? >Umm, I guess so. Does it support Netscape ? >No, as we adhere to a standard, so you do need Internet Explorer. ok, bye. clunk. Sigh...... Cheers Ian B Manners "Worry. This will hurt." -- Unfriendly Dentist ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 19:17:43 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] Most operating systems Why not give the people at the ACCC a call or e-mail. If this company actualy advertises "software available for most operating systems" and given that Microsoft themselves portray the various versions of Windoze as different generations of, at the most, two operating systems, then I would say they ARE contravening the trade descriptions act and the office of fair trading (who from what one person at the ACCC told me, is the main area that the ACCC is concerned with) should take action against the company. At the least they should be required to correct their mis-leading and inaccurate advertising and possibly add an apology to the revised version. They may also be up for a fine. Irrespective of our feelings for any particular product, the law is very clear about mis-representation in advertising. Cheers/2 Ed. Ian Manners wrote: > Hi > > Rang up a share trading company today, and asked about > the access software they provide which they state is "For most > operating systems"...... > > Hi, Will this software run under OS/2 ? > > >No > > Will it run under Mac OS9 or OSX ? > > >No > > How about Unix or Linux > > >Well, um, if you can get a Windows emulator then ... > > So it doesnt actually run under most operating systems ? > > >Well, it does, it runs under Windows98, Windows 2000 and > >WindowsXP. > > ok, so the answer is no, do you provide any other, older versions > of your software, or a web interface ? > > >Yes, we do provide a members service via the web, and that > >should work with most operating systems. > > ok, so its just a secure HTTP interface ? > > >Yes, its a password protected area but you need to download > >some software to access the features. > > What is the software, a JAVA module ? > > >No, its a Microsoft Visual .NET plugin for Internet Explorer. > > ok, so what your telling me is that I still require a flavour of > Windows ? > > >Umm, I guess so. > > Does it support Netscape ? > > >No, as we adhere to a standard, so you do need Internet Explorer. > > ok, bye. > > clunk. > Sigh...... > > Cheers > Ian B Manners > > "Worry. This will hurt." -- Unfriendly Dentist > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 19:43:36 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] ot: IDE setup; co-exist OS/2 and W2k; W2K boot disk ? In answer to the first question - with modern (20GB plus) IDE drives, often the only way the BIOS can see the drive at all is through using the AUTO option - I know this is the case with my 40GB harddrive and my Award BIOS. Regarding your install problems: There is a patch to fix this bug in Windows 2000 SP2. Checkout the "admission" at the following Microsoft page: http://support.microsoft dot com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q265003 Cheers/2 Ed. Voytek Eymont wrote: > back to my IDE Qs: > > when setting up IDE drives, what the preferred option: > auto/auto ? > auto/lba ? > user defined ? > > I just tried transfering a 4 GB IDE from a clone to a Compaq deskpro, > Compaq doesn't see existing data on the drives, and, with Compaq, there > seems to be no user choice at setting up translation scheme, hence, my Q > I guess, a translation scheme that can be used across different machines, is > what I'd like. > > co-exist OS/2 and W2k > > I setup with LVM 20GB HD: > > BM, PRI, ext, ext, ext. > > the aim was, to have W2K and OS/2 > > OS/2 was installed on E: HPFS; > I then, with LVM, pointed active primary to C: (not BM); > rebooted, installed W2k > w2k installed, booted, worked > > I then transferred active promary back to BM; > BM, OS/2 boots OK > > BM, win2k says: > damaged system32\ntoskrnl.exe, replace with a good one > > how to fix it, I can't even boot it ...? > > is there a way to make a W2K or an NTFS boot disk ? > > the ERD in W2K doesn't make a bootable disk; > I tried booting from a NT4 CD, but that screwed up W2K , again, also with > the dreaded: > damaged system32\ntoskrnl.exe, replace with a good one > > Voytek Eymont > SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd > http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/ > phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 19:56:40 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: [os2genau] ot: IDE setup; co-exist OS/2 and W2k; W2K boot disk ? Hi Voytek >when setting up IDE drives, what the preferred option: >auto/auto ? >auto/lba ? >user defined ? Auto. >BM, win2k says: >damaged system32\ntoskrnl.exe, replace with a good one >how to fix it, I can't even boot it ...? There is a fix for this on MS's website somewere. >is there a way to make a W2K or an NTFS boot disk ? There is in NT, not sure about W2K, if you have NT its in the utilities menu. >I tried booting from a NT4 CD, but that screwed up W2K , again, also with >the dreaded: >damaged system32\ntoskrnl.exe, replace with a good one As stated previously, the fix is on the MS site somewere, which will fix this problem. Cheers Ian B Manners Boys will be boys, and so will a lot of middle-aged men. : -- Kin Hubbard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 22:03:12 +1000 From: "voytek" Subject: Re: [os2genau] ot: IDE setup; co-exist OS/2 and W2k; W2K boot disk ? On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 19:43:36 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote: >Regarding your install problems: > There is a patch to fix this bug in Windows 2000 SP2. > > Checkout the "admission" at the following Microsoft page: > >http://support.microsoft dot com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q265003 thanks, Ian, Ed. The MS page actually talks about another issue as well, the BM being overwritten; though I was protected against that, the dfs tool has a 'make BM w2k proof' tool hmm, I thought I already did install SP2... perhaps not... I guess I'll try again... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------