From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 00:01:03 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 450 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Saturday 21 September 2002 Number 450 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 [os2genau] Differences between browsers : Ed Durrant 2 Re: [os2genau] Differences between browsers : Ed Durrant 3 Re: [os2genau] Differences between browsers : Gavin Miller" 4 Re: [os2genau] Differences between browsers : Ian Manners" 5 Re: [os2genau] Differences between browsers : Ed Durrant 6 Re: [os2genau] Differences between browsers : Ian Manners" 7 [os2genau] vbrun300.dll & Win-os/2? : Gavin Miller" 8 Re: [os2genau] vbrun300.dll & Win-os/2? : Robert Traynor (BobT)" 9 Re: [os2genau] vbrun300.dll & Win-os/2? : Ed Durrant 10 Re: [os2genau] vbrun300.dll & Win-os/2? : Paul Smedley" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 08:33:55 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: [os2genau] Differences between browsers This ias one for Australian OS/2ers who use Telstra Cable Internet: Try going and changing your account type via the web at: http://www.bigpond dot com/broadband/support/accounts Selecting "change your account type" These are the results I found: Netscape 4.61 aborts with a SYS3175 when trying to get to logon panel Mozilla 1.1b gets a report from the server that it received an unexpected message and doesn't link. Opera/2 5.2 gets into the page but the chart of options is incorrectly formatted and after selection of the new option and typing yes to accept terms and conditions, pressing the "confirm" button does absolutely nothing ! IBM Web Browser 1.2 - works perfectly - which since it's an older version of Mozilla, seems strange. Perhaps later changes to Mozilla have brought problems or perhaps the IBM Browser has some non-Mozilla code in it ?? Interesting, unfortunately it means I still have to have 4 different browsers available to be able to access all sites. IE on Windoze works correctly on this site (that's probably the only one they've tested it with). Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 08:36:39 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] Differences between browsers Small additional piece of information - the NS 4.61 SYS3175 problem occurs after logging in, when you are required to press the "next" button. Ed Durrant wrote: > This ias one for Australian OS/2ers who use Telstra Cable Internet: > > Try going and changing your account type via the web at: > > http://www.bigpond dot com/broadband/support/accounts > > Selecting "change your account type" These are the results I found: > > Netscape 4.61 aborts with a SYS3175 when trying to get to logon panel > > Mozilla 1.1b gets a report from the server that it received an > unexpected message and doesn't link. > > Opera/2 5.2 gets into the page but the chart of options is incorrectly > formatted and after selection of the new option and typing yes to accept > terms and conditions, pressing the "confirm" button does absolutely > nothing ! > > IBM Web Browser 1.2 - works perfectly - which since it's an older > version of Mozilla, seems strange. Perhaps later changes to Mozilla have > brought problems or perhaps the IBM Browser has some non-Mozilla code in > it ?? > > Interesting, unfortunately it means I still have to have 4 different > browsers available to be able to access all sites. > > IE on Windoze works correctly on this site (that's probably the only one > they've tested it with). > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 10:18:54 +1100 (EDT) From: "Gavin Miller" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Differences between browsers So what's in IE that other browsers don't have? More M$ bullshit Cheers G ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 13:43:53 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Differences between browsers >Small additional piece of information - the NS 4.61 SYS3175 problem occurs after >logging in, when you are required to press the "next" button. Doesnt work to well with Netscape under AIX, or Linux either, so its probably an activeX cookie thingy. Cheers Ian B Manners "Now they show you how detergents take out bloodstains, a pretty violent image there. I think if you've got a T-shirt with a bloodstain all over it, maybe laundry isn't your biggest problem. Maybe you should get rid of the body before you do the wash." --Jerry Seinfeld ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 13:45:55 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] Differences between browsers But why does it work under IBM Browser 1.2 and not Mozilla 1.1b ??? Ed. Ian Manners wrote: > >Small additional piece of information - the NS 4.61 SYS3175 problem occurs after > >logging in, when you are required to press the "next" button. > > Doesnt work to well with Netscape under AIX, or Linux either, so its > probably an activeX cookie thingy. > > Cheers > Ian B Manners > > "Now they show you how detergents take out bloodstains, a pretty violent > image there. I think if you've got a T-shirt with a bloodstain all over it, > maybe laundry isn't your biggest problem. Maybe you should get rid of the > body before you do the wash." > --Jerry Seinfeld > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 14:24:31 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Differences between browsers Hi Ed >But why does it work under IBM Browser 1.2 and not Mozilla 1.1b ??? There are a lot of code differences betwen IBMBrowser 1.2 and the associated Mozilla 0.9.4, so I can only assume that IBM have taken care of better error handling ? Try using the goverments internet speed checking website, with anything ! http://www.iapselfhelp dot com Hmm, ok, I just went back and tested it, it doesnt ko IBM Web Browser anymore, and actually gives you back results, very interesting though, I gave it my own phone number, the phone didnt ring, and it said that the line passed........ That is not what I consider a real test ! Interesting that it had to also give me permission and approve my phone number before continueing. No speed test stats or anything either, just a simple "Passed" I could be simply testing to the nearest exchange from telstras servers but thats not were all the phone problems mainly occur, OR, if it cant understand a non MS browser, they may have setup a script to make it look like it works. I know our favourite Ludite still thinks the internet is primarily for porn and gambling, so he doesnt want to support any spending on infrastructure. Cheers Ian B Manners "I don't do drugs anymore 'cause I find I get the same effect just by standing up really fast." --Johnathan Katz ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 18:22:36 +1100 (EDT) From: "Gavin Miller" Subject: [os2genau] vbrun300.dll & Win-os/2? Hi guys, I have recently been given a scanner since the owner couldn't get it to work on their computer at all. It works for me perfectly....... under win98 :-( It is an Avision AS6240 flatbed SCSI and there are NO drivers for OS/2 at all. Not STI, CFM, or SANE. There are win 3.1 drivers though, but I need a win 3.1 twain enabled program. No probs, downloaded one of those. Needs vbrun300.dll though. What problems am I going to face once I wack the dll into Win-os2? Will this runtime make my system virus vulnerable? Does anyone know of a win3.1 twain program that doesn't require visual basic runtime? Cheers G ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 18:42:17 +1000 From: "Robert Traynor (BobT)" Subject: Re: [os2genau] vbrun300.dll & Win-os/2? Hi Gavin, Vbrun300.dll should not give you any problem at all. I have installed in my Win-Os2 vbrun 100, 200 and 300. Some VERY old windows 3.1 software and old windows 3.1 games use them. Regards, Robert Traynor (BobT). 21 September 2002 18:41 On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 18:22:36 +1100 (EDT), Gavin Miller wrote: > Hi guys, > > I have recently been given a scanner since the owner couldn't get it to work on their > computer at all. It works for me perfectly....... under win98 :-( > > It is an Avision AS6240 flatbed SCSI and there are NO drivers for OS/2 at all. Not STI, > CFM, or SANE. There are win 3.1 drivers though, but I need a win 3.1 twain enabled > program. No probs, downloaded one of those. Needs vbrun300.dll though. > > What problems am I going to face once I wack the dll into Win-os2? Will this runtime > make my system virus vulnerable? Does anyone know of a win3.1 twain program that > doesn't require visual basic runtime? > > Cheers > G ,-._|\ Robert Traynor (BobT) / Oz \ email rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au \_,--.x/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 18:55:30 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] vbrun300.dll & Win-os/2? Sorry Gavin, I don't hold out much hope of this working. You have said it runs OK under Win98, but WIN-OS2 is the 16 bit WIN3.11, so you would need 16 bit windows code and drivers. I bought, some time ago a Windows only Plustek parrallel port scanner. It actually came with win 3.11 and win 9x support but despite lots of attempts, it simply wouldn't work under WIN-OS2. It's now possible that parrallel port scanners will work to a Win9x session running in VirtualPC/2 (SCSI ones wont), but I haven't tried it yet. Your best bet is to try to see if anyone is willing to add support to SANE for your scanner (it's not a rebadge of a make that is supported is it ?). Once it has support in (Linux) Sane you will have to wait for someone to port across in a new OS/2 version (or you could do this yourself if you have the skills/tools - how to is documented on the sane/2 site somewhere I think). Quite honestly, it's probably just not worth the effort. it's probably easier to go and buy a scanner that is supported by the OS/2 version of SANE. I have a Canon FB620S that cost me $99 new from Strathfields, including an Adaptec SCSI card (an OS/2 supported one to boot!) and I am very happy with that. Good luck anyway Cheers/2 Ed. Gavin Miller wrote: > Hi guys, > > I have recently been given a scanner since the owner couldn't get it to work on their > computer at all. It works for me perfectly....... under win98 :-( > > It is an Avision AS6240 flatbed SCSI and there are NO drivers for OS/2 at all. Not STI, > CFM, or SANE. There are win 3.1 drivers though, but I need a win 3.1 twain enabled > program. No probs, downloaded one of those. Needs vbrun300.dll though. > > What problems am I going to face once I wack the dll into Win-os2? Will this runtime > make my system virus vulnerable? Does anyone know of a win3.1 twain program that > doesn't require visual basic runtime? > > Cheers > G > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 19:06:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Paul Smedley" Subject: Re: [os2genau] vbrun300.dll & Win-os/2? Gavin, On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 18:22:36 +1100 (EDT), Gavin Miller wrote: >It is an Avision AS6240 flatbed SCSI and there are NO drivers for OS/2 at all. Not STI, >CFM, or SANE. There are win 3.1 drivers though, but I need a win 3.1 twain enabled >program. No probs, downloaded one of those. Needs vbrun300.dll though. http://www.mostang dot com/sane/sane-backends.html shows an Avision AV6240 is supported by SANE... wonder if that is the same as the AV6240.... Regards, Paul >What problems am I going to face once I wack the dll into Win-os2? Will this runtime >make my system virus vulnerable? Does anyone know of a win3.1 twain program that >doesn't require visual basic runtime? > >Cheers >G > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------