From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 00:02:06 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 480 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Thursday 31 October 2002 Number 480 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: [os2genau] Need Info down-under in the good old South Africa. : John Angelico" 2 Re: [os2genau] Need Info down-under in the good old South Africa. : Ed Durrant 3 Re: [os2genau] Need Info down-under in the good old South Africa. : Alan" 4 Re: [os2genau] Need Info down-under in the good old South Africa. : John Angelico" 5 Re: [os2genau] No. 477 : C James 6 Re: [os2genau] No. 477 : Alan" 7 [os2genau] OT: Humor - Tagline : Ian Manners" 8 Re: [os2genau] OT: Humor - Tagline : Ed Durrant **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:03:01 +1100 (EDT) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Need Info down-under in the good old South Africa. On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 08:16:42 +0200, Ferreira, Charles C wrote: >Good day to you all! Hello from Australia Charles! Sorry about the delay in responding, but I have been out of email conotact for a week or so. I am replying as the SIG Convener, and copying your request to our mailing list. >Hi my name is Charles a Senior Business Analyst/Project Manager working for >one of the biggest financial institutions in Africa. We run WSODII in our >branches, but Microsoft for our Office systems and mail within our HQ. Now >the question, does your group know of a RDP client I can use to provide >Microsoft Office & Mail via Netscape or just a RDP client. We do however >have large installations of CITRIX providing this functionality on OS2 RIPL >Clients running WSODII. > >The problem I do have is that CITRIX is quite expensive and I need to roll >MS Mail and Office to +- 600 branches countrywide, I need to find a cheaper >solution. Also running a Proof Of Concept on Tarantella at present. > >Can you help? There is quite a diverse range of skills and knowledge represented on this list, so I suggest that you will receive a number of comments and replies. We are a mixed body of IT professionals, corporate as well as small business, plus individuals and enthusiasts for OS/2. To List members: 1. Please reply off the list initially, since this enquiry is likely to include matters of commercial confidentiality. I have modified the disclaimer clauses at the end of Charles' original email to protect commercial privacy. Those who know the finance field and understand how these things work would probably be able to read between the lines. Meanwhile the rest of us won't have a clue, and that's fine. 2. Please allow Charles the courtesy of vetting your initial responses within the framework of his project requirements and security parameters, without getting your nose out of joint should he decline to entrust you with too much internal data. 3. Given the corporate nature of the setup described, comments recommending other mail/office suite software (eg: "what about Domino/Notes/Smartsuite") will probably be a waste of bandwidth UNLESS there is no other way to achieve Charles' required solution within the given parameters. Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG Melbourne PC User Group Inc. Melbourne VIC AUSTRALIA talldad at kepl dot com dot au ____________________________________________ [Quote] Disclaimer and confidentiality note Everything in this e-mail and any attachments relating to the official business of XXXXXXX Bank Group Limited is proprietary to the company. It is confidential, legally privileged and protected by law. XXXXXXX Bank does not own and endorse any other content. Views and opinions are those of the sender unless clearly stated as being that of XXXXXXX Bank. The person addressed in the e-mail is the sole authorised recipient. Please notify the sender immediately if it has unintentionally reached you and do not read, disclose or use the content in any way. XXXXXXX Bank can not assure that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that it is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. ______________________________________________ [/quote] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:34:01 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] Need Info down-under in the good old South Africa. you haven't included Charles' e-mail address !! Ed. John Angelico wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 08:16:42 +0200, Ferreira, Charles C wrote: > > >Good day to you all! > > Hello from Australia Charles! > > Sorry about the delay in responding, but I have been out of email conotact > for a week or so. > > I am replying as the SIG Convener, and copying your request to our mailing > list. > > >Hi my name is Charles a Senior Business Analyst/Project Manager working for > >one of the biggest financial institutions in Africa. We run WSODII in our > >branches, but Microsoft for our Office systems and mail within our HQ. Now > >the question, does your group know of a RDP client I can use to provide > >Microsoft Office & Mail via Netscape or just a RDP client. We do however > >have large installations of CITRIX providing this functionality on OS2 RIPL > >Clients running WSODII. > > > >The problem I do have is that CITRIX is quite expensive and I need to roll > >MS Mail and Office to +- 600 branches countrywide, I need to find a cheaper > >solution. Also running a Proof Of Concept on Tarantella at present. > > > >Can you help? > > There is quite a diverse range of skills and knowledge represented on this > list, so I suggest that you will receive a number of comments and replies. > We are a mixed body of IT professionals, corporate as well as small > business, plus individuals and enthusiasts for OS/2. > > To List members: > 1. Please reply off the list initially, since this enquiry is likely to > include matters of commercial confidentiality. I have modified the > disclaimer clauses at the end of Charles' original email to protect > commercial privacy. Those who know the finance field and understand how > these things work would probably be able to read between the lines. > Meanwhile the rest of us won't have a clue, and that's fine. > > 2. Please allow Charles the courtesy of vetting your initial responses > within the framework of his project requirements and security parameters, > without getting your nose out of joint should he decline to entrust you > with too much internal data. > > 3. Given the corporate nature of the setup described, comments recommending > other mail/office suite software (eg: "what about Domino/Notes/Smartsuite") > will probably be a waste of bandwidth UNLESS there is no other way to > achieve Charles' required solution within the given parameters. > > Best regards > John Angelico > OS/2 SIG > Melbourne PC User Group Inc. > Melbourne VIC AUSTRALIA > talldad at kepl dot com dot au > ____________________________________________ > > [Quote] > Disclaimer and confidentiality note > > Everything in this e-mail and any attachments relating to the official > business of > XXXXXXX Bank Group Limited is proprietary to the company. It is > confidential, legally > privileged and protected by law. XXXXXXX Bank does not own and endorse any > other content. > Views and opinions are those of the sender unless clearly stated as being > that of XXXXXXX Bank. > > The person addressed in the e-mail is the sole authorised recipient. Please > notify the sender > immediately if it has unintentionally reached you and do not read, disclose > or use the content > in any way. > > XXXXXXX Bank can not assure that the integrity of this communication has > been maintained nor > that it is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. > ______________________________________________ > > [/quote] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:53:33 +1000 From: "Alan" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Need Info down-under in the good old South Africa. Try CFerreira at mail.sbic.co.za ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Durrant" To: Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 5:34 AM Subject: Re: [os2genau] Need Info down-under in the good old South Africa. > you haven't included Charles' e-mail address !! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:06:57 +1100 (EDT) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Need Info down-under in the good old South Africa. On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:34:01 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: >you haven't included Charles' e-mail address !! > >Ed. > >John Angelico wrote: Hi Ed. Sorry, I had done it as a cc: to the list when originally replying to Charles but then I had trouble getting it to the list. However as Alan has kindly posted the address it's all fixed now. Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG talldad at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au -------------------------------------------- PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... There is no job so smiple it cannot be done wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:04:50 -0800 (PST) From: C James Subject: Re: [os2genau] No. 477 Hello What is the native accounting/costing program you are referring to please ? Chris --- Digest wrote: > ************************************************** > Tuesday 22 October 2002 > Number 477 > ************************************************** > > Subjects for today > > 1 Re: [os2genau] List Archive : Alan" > > > So, we have a dilemma. In my case it will be solved because the best > accounting/costing program we have is a native OS/2, and as soon as I can > rewrite the parts pertinent to this company, a change will be almost > natural. > > It is the availability of applications, not the quality of the operating > system, which will determine the most suitable business computing option. > Is it very much different in the home environment? > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo dot com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:11:46 +1000 From: "Alan" Subject: Re: [os2genau] No. 477 Chris A work in progress - that is just so close to being ready for the world at large but ............ It's that last little step. I have written an accounting/job costing/marketing package for a catering company, but now we no longer own the catering company. Still, the general ledger section handles all my accounting needs, but to make the package generally available needs a lot of cleaning up, to handle (a) End of Year Processing (b) GST reporting (c) Company reporting (ASIC details, profit shares etc) and to fix a few bugs and not so slick processes. I am using a Sybase SQLAnywhere Database, which is no longer available, so I can reproduce for a single user environment with the Sysbase Runtime license, I cannot provide the multi-user network version which I use. On the credit side, I must admit to being biased (or modest?) - it is the easiest to use accounting system I have seen for a while, with easy reconciliation of multiple bank accounts (No MYOB find the line and hope it's right stuff), unique system generated reference numbers (which can be fiddled but not cheated), bank deposit slips produced when receipting debtors, open item debtors and creditors, with proper audit trails and ledgers, and little things like automatic post codes. To finish it and make it generally available is not such a huge task now, but as I see more applications I see more things that I want to put into mine, and I just don't have the time or skill to implement some of them. Until this job, just 12 months old, I have never had to use windows. I am finding it so frustrating, and so annoying that it is time to get serious about finishing the system for my present employer. I know they are sick of listening to me complain about the lousy computer system they are forcing me to get ulcers over........... Alan Sorry - this is the short version ----- Original Message ----- From: "C James" To: "OS2GenAu" Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [os2genau] No. 477 > Hello > > What is the native accounting/costing program you are referring > to please ? > > Chris > > --- Digest wrote: > > ************************************************** > > Tuesday 22 October 2002 > > Number 477 > > ************************************************** > > > > Subjects for today > > > > 1 Re: [os2genau] List Archive : Alan" > > > > > > So, we have a dilemma. In my case it will be solved because the best > > accounting/costing program we have is a native OS/2, and as soon as I can > > rewrite the parts pertinent to this company, a change will be almost > > natural. > > > > It is the availability of applications, not the quality of the operating > > system, which will determine the most suitable business computing option. > > Is it very much different in the home environment? > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now > http://hotjobs.yahoo dot com/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:58:09 +1100 (EDT) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: [os2genau] OT: Humor - Tagline A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog without bricks tied to its head. (Couldnt resist) Cheers Ian B Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ I believe in getting into hot water. It keeps you clean. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:37:42 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] OT: Humor - Tagline Bricks tied to a dogs head - that sounds like Animal cruelty, but I suppose making someone use Microsoft products could also be descibed as contravening human rights ?? Ed. Ian Manners wrote: > > A computer without a Microsoft operating system > is like a dog without bricks tied to its head. > > (Couldnt resist) > > Cheers > Ian B Manners > http://www.os2site dot com/ > > I believe in getting into hot water. It keeps you clean. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------