From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:02:03 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 525 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Thursday 16 January 2003 Number 525 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: [os2genau] Slightly OT Sharing internet modem dialup : Ian Manners" 2 [os2genau] Slightly OT Sharing internet modem dialup : Michael Peters" 3 [os2genau] Slightly OT Sharing internet modem dialup : Michael Peters" 4 [os2genau] TCPIP setup - help printing : Michael Peters" 5 Re: [os2genau] Slightly OT Sharing internet modem dialup : Ian Manners" 6 Re: [os2genau] Slightly OT Sharing internet modem dialup : Ed Durrant 7 Re: [os2genau] Slightly OT Sharing internet modem dialup : Ed Durrant 8 Re: [os2genau] Slightly OT Sharing internet modem dialup : Ed Durrant 9 Re: [os2genau] TCPIP setup - help printing : Ed Durrant **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 01:01:32 +1100 (EDT) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Slightly OT Sharing internet modem dialup Hi Michael (and I hope everyone had a good xmas & NY :-) I can only speak for OS/2-eCS. To use an OS/2 PC as the gateway with injoy, it a simple matter of setting up the gateway machine with an internal IP range, ie, 192.168.1.1, then in TCP/IP setup turn "IP Forwarding" on. All you should then need to do is to setup all other networked PC's (Windows-Linux-Mac) with a gateway address of 192.168.1.1, which is of cause your gateway machine. If you also setup InJoy with the relevent filter (in the provideded examples cnf files), the gateway PC will then automatically dialout when needed. You can also get the latest beta version of InJoy Dialler for Windows and Linux, look on the fx website. Cheers Ian B Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ The Law of Software Development and Envelopment at MIT: Every program in development at MIT expands until it can read mail. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:27:39 +1100 (EDT) From: "Michael Peters" Subject: [os2genau] Slightly OT Sharing internet modem dialup I apologise for the errors in my previous mailing on this subject. Let's agree I was having a senior moment :-) . To reiterate and send the correct message... I have been running a lan here for the past 12 months using my OS/2 box as a gateway to the internet. The lan consists of win2000( for terminal server), win98 (for the grandchildrens games) and winXP(my wife's work) and of course the OS/2 box. We use terminal server, DTOC and file/printer sharing. My wife's winXP is now working much more than my OS/2 because we live in a rural area and she does alot of business over the net. So I tried to set her winXP up as the gateway using the inbuilt Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) facility and dropping the OS/2 Injoy NAT and firewall. The Win part I have accomplished thanks to one of those little pamphlets on networking you get at the newsagents. It even covers Linux and Mac sharing. But I can't get the OS/2 box sharing as a client to the new gateway. I don't have a router. I thought I might have to set up socks in OS/2 but before I did so I wanted to check with the group who work with these problems all the time. Ian says there is an Injoy beta for Windows but I can't find it on the Injoy site. I suppose that's a good way around the problem . I expect it replaces ICS. Meanwhile, Ed in particular, thank you for the time and detail of the replies. Now that I have explained things a bit better, hopefully, is there something else I should do to get this OS/2 box sharing our 56K (the best we get is 2.8k/sec) modem? With thanks Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:27:39 +1100 (EDT) From: "Michael Peters" Subject: [os2genau] Slightly OT Sharing internet modem dialup I apologise for the errors in my previous mailing on this subject. Let's agree I was having a senior moment :-) . To reiterate and send the correct message... I have been running a lan here for the past 12 months using my OS/2 box as a gateway to the internet. The lan consists of win2000( for terminal server), win98 (for the grandchildrens games) and winXP(my wife's work) and of course the OS/2 box. We use terminal server, DTOC and file/printer sharing. My wife's winXP is now working much more than my OS/2 because we live in a rural area and she does alot of business over the net. So I tried to set her winXP up as the gateway using the inbuilt Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) facility and dropping the OS/2 Injoy NAT and firewall. The Win part I have accomplished thanks to one of those little pamphlets on networking you get at the newsagents. It even covers Linux and Mac sharing. But I can't get the OS/2 box sharing as a client to the new gateway. I don't have a router. I thought I might have to set up socks in OS/2 but before I did so I wanted to check with the group who work with these problems all the time. Ian says there is an Injoy beta for Windows but I can't find it on the Injoy site. I suppose that's a good way around the problem . I expect it replaces ICS. Meanwhile, Ed in particular, thank you for the time and detail of the replies. Now that I have explained things a bit better, hopefully, is there something else I should do to get this OS/2 box sharing our 56K (the best we get is 2.8k/sec) modem? With thanks Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:49:44 +1100 (EDT) From: "Michael Peters" Subject: [os2genau] TCPIP setup - help printing I am running the latest TCPIP setup . The TCP/IP Configuration Notebook is a java program and I would like to print out some of the online Help. How can I do this. Is there an inf file I can point to with view.exe ? Or some other? With thanks Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:55:38 +1100 (EDT) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Slightly OT Sharing internet modem dialup Hi Michael >But I can't get the OS/2 box >sharing as a client to the new gateway. I don't >have a router. I thought I might have to set up >socks in OS/2 but before I did so I wanted to >check with the group who work with these >problems all the time. OS/2 just needs its standard TCP/IP loaded, as you were previously using it as the gateway I assume this is already loaded. The only changes you need to make should be in x:\mptn\bin\setup.cmd route add default 192.168.1.254 -netmask 255.255.255.255 -hopcount 1 ipgate off ie, change 192.168.1.254 to the IP of the WinXP machine. Also remove anyother 'route' statements, you should only have the default route set. For future info, having 'ipgate on' in the setup.cmd makes your OS/2 box a router, you then just need the 'route' statements. Cheers Ian B Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ Never let an inanimate object know you are in a hurry. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:21:30 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] Slightly OT Sharing internet modem dialup Hi Michael, Well I guess you'd get the answer OS/2 clients aren't supported if you went to Microsoft with this problem in their ICS system, this doesn't mean it won't work though. First point - DON'T set up SOCKS - that's not where the problem is. (IMHO). Second point - Check how many concurrent clients ICS is allowed to support, under Windows 98 it was the hosting box plus only two others. I think it's more with XP although the Microsoft solution for more than a couple of PC's is to use NAT "propper" using M$ routing software that comes with Windows 2000 Server. The OS/2 PC, now without a modem and only a LAN connection, correct ? Make sure you remove the Injoy drivers from MPTS. All you should have "bound" to the LAN card (card zero) are the protocols you need, usually TCPIP and possibly Netbios. If you want to run Netbeui over IP, that's a whole extra story (it works, both in standards and Microsoft style, but it's just a bit tricky to set up if you don't understand how it's working). In TCPCFG2 - make sure you have a compatible IP address assigned (you could try setting to DHCP and pick up the address from the XP box later, lets keep it simple for now). The IP address that you assign has to be in the same IP network as the other PCs on your LAN. To check this go to the win98 box and run WINIPCFG and note down the IP address, subnet mask and default router (the dfefault router will be the address of the XP box). add 5 (or so) to the IP address number and enter it and the other settings into the OS/2 TCPCFG2 configuration program. Also enter the primary and secondary DNS entries (also get these from the Win98 box). these should be the DNS addresses from your ISP. Save TCPCFG2 settings, restart the OS/2 box and see if it works. If not see if you can PING the IP address of the WINXP box and let me know what error it returns. If it works you can leave it as is or note down all settings and switch to DHCP and try that - if that doesn't work, put the noted settings back in. Good luck Cheers/2 Ed. Michael Peters wrote: > I apologise for the errors in my previous mailing on > this subject. Let's agree I was having a senior > moment :-) . > To reiterate and send the correct message... > I have been running a lan here for the past 12 > months using my OS/2 box as a gateway to the > internet. The lan consists of win2000( for > terminal server), win98 (for the grandchildrens > games) and winXP(my wife's work) and of course > the OS/2 box. We use terminal server, DTOC and > file/printer sharing. My wife's winXP is now working > much more than my OS/2 because we live in a > rural area and she does alot of business over the > net. So I tried to set her winXP up as the gateway > using the inbuilt Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) > facility and dropping the OS/2 Injoy NAT and > firewall. The Win part I have accomplished thanks > to one of those little pamphlets on networking > you get at the newsagents. It even covers Linux > and Mac sharing. But I can't get the OS/2 box > sharing as a client to the new gateway. I don't > have a router. I thought I might have to set up > socks in OS/2 but before I did so I wanted to > check with the group who work with these > problems all the time. > Ian says there is an Injoy beta for Windows > but I can't find it on the Injoy site. I suppose > that's a good way around the problem . I > expect it replaces ICS. > Meanwhile, Ed in particular, thank you for the > time and detail of the replies. Now that I have > explained things a bit better, hopefully, is there > something else I should do to get this OS/2 box > sharing our 56K (the best we get is 2.8k/sec) > modem? > > With thanks > > Mike > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:24:45 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] Slightly OT Sharing internet modem dialup A point on the Modem speed, there are a few settings you can play with to try to improve things, try adding S91=13 and S9=13 into the initialisation string, this will lift the "volume" of your signal down the phone line and can help a little. If your not close to a town with a digital exchange, you're never going to get 56k (and then only if your ISP pays Telstra to run his modem links). The best you can realisticaly hope for is probably 30k. Ed. Michael Peters wrote: > Meanwhile, Ed in particular, thank you for the > time and detail of the replies. Now that I have > explained things a bit better, hopefully, is there > something else I should do to get this OS/2 box > sharing our 56K (the best we get is 2.8k/sec) > modem? > > With thanks > > Mike > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:34:19 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] Slightly OT Sharing internet modem dialup Ian, with M$ ICS doesn't it rely on the APIPA - that is, if a PC can't find a DHCP server and its running WIN98, 2k or XP, it'll pick any address in the 169.254.0.1 to 169.254.255.254 range with a class B subnet mask of 255.255.0.0, check it's not already active on the LAN and then take it for itself. OS/2 doesn't do this (AFAIK), so hence although setting Windoze PCs to DHCP in an Internet connect sharing (ICS) environment seems to work, in fact it's not using DHCP at all but rather this "hit and miss" method. M$ NAT has a trues DHCP relay agent incorporated. Cheers/2 Ian Manners wrote: > Hi Michael > > OS/2 just needs its standard TCP/IP loaded, as you > were previously using it as the gateway I assume this > is already loaded. > > The only changes you need to make should be in > > x:\mptn\bin\setup.cmd > > route add default 192.168.1.254 -netmask 255.255.255.255 -hopcount 1 > ipgate off > > ie, change 192.168.1.254 to the IP of the WinXP machine. > Also remove anyother 'route' statements, you should only > have the default route set. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:48:21 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] TCPIP setup - help printing Download Newview by aaron Lawrence from Hobbes and then open the \TCPIP\help directory where you will see all of the help files. Newview allows you to cut and paste from the file (View.exe doesn't) and allows you to print sections more easily. It can read inf or hlp files. Cheers/2 Ed. Michael Peters wrote: > I am running the latest TCPIP setup . The TCP/IP Configuration Notebook is a java program and I > would like to print out some of the online Help. How can I do this. Is there an inf file I can point to > with view.exe ? Or some other? > > With thanks > > Mike > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------