From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 03:00:11 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 547 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Wednesday 19 February 2003 Number 547 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Is the internet slow for anyone else today ? : Gregory Hicks" 2 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem : Ed Durrant 3 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Web page graphics : Ian Manners" 4 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem : Gregory Hicks" 5 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Web page graphics : Ian Manners" 6 Test-List: [os2genau] Melbourne OS/2 SIG 25th Feb 2003 : John Angelico" 7 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Accounting Software : Trevor Jacobs 8 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem : Ian Manners" 9 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Melbourne OS/2 SIG 25th Feb 2003 : Voytek Eymont 10 Test-List: [os2genau] Web page graphics : Ed Durrant 11 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Web page graphics : bob 12 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Web page graphics : Ed Durrant 13 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] free OS/2 stuff to good homes : John Angelico" 14 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem : Gregory Hicks" 15 Test-List: [os2genau] warp server auction : peter" 16 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem : Gregory Hicks" 17 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Accounting Software : Alan Heiser" 18 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Web page graphics : Ed Durrant 19 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Is the internet slow for anyone else today ? : Wayne 20 Test-List: [os2genau] Accounting Software : Alan Heiser" 21 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Is the internet slow for anyone else today ? : Gregory Hicks" 22 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem : Ed Durrant 23 Test-List: [os2genau] Fw: Accounting Software : Alan Heiser" 24 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Web page graphics : Voytek Eymont 25 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Wiping HD's : Voytek Eymont 26 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Is the Internet slow ... : Wayne 27 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] free OS/2 stuff to good homes : Robert Traynor (BobT)" 28 Test-List: [os2genau] Is the internet slow for anyone else today ? : tsq at chariot dot net dot au 29 Test-List: [os2genau] Interesting Problem : Gregory Hicks" 30 Test-List: [os2genau] Wiping HD's : Gavin Miller" 31 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Wiping HD's : Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" 32 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem : Gregory Hicks" 33 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem : John Wildgoose 34 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem : brianb at kdfisher dot com dot au 35 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] free OS/2 stuff to good homes : John Angelico" 36 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Is the internet slow for anyone else today ? : Paul Smedley" 37 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Is the internet slow for anyone else today ? : Ed Durrant 38 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Reg Headlines Thursday February 13 : John Angelico" 39 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Web page graphics : Mike O'Connor" 40 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem : Ian Manners" 41 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Wiping HD's : Alan Heiser" 42 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Web page graphics : Daryl Pilkington" 43 Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem : brianb at kdfisher dot com dot au **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:53 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "Gregory Hicks" Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Is the internet slow for anyone else today ? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 "Super highway" - defined as a wide band of something more traffic can jam up in On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 19:18:50 -0500, Wayne wrote: >from Wayne Kircher > >Had the same thing here so I gave up for a while. It became fast >again about 4am. Possibly heavy traffic on the Superhighway? > >Cheers >Wayne > >>Hi guys, > >>My download times here on chariot are in the bytes, not Kbytes ! >>The ping results to my isp are 110/10238/30130 with a 6% packet loss. >>I'm unable to even d/l their homepage to see if there's any news. > > > >>Tell me this is happening to other people today !?! >>Glenn. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPkmRyCRXBYWFz/DyEQK6KgCgxBUd7nd1AFn6RhMfrjQ7/+pHcl8An27G xtJ8ewzcMTkx+MqmHhVAwH8M =3UxG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:52 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem The default setting for the JFS IFS is as follows: IFS=C:\OS2\JFS.IFS /AUTOCHECK:* The +driveletter is really for use on the HPFS IFS to force a full checkdisk on particular drives each time the system is booted. JFS works differently - it always runs it's "chkdsk" (ie it checks the transaction logs to see if a chkdsk is needed), so the + command is redundant. Cheers/2 Ed. Gregory Hicks wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > I am running JFS and encountered an odd operation. > > with the (partial) command line set to: > > IFS=.. JFS... /CACHE:32768 ...+E+F /F:2 > > the machine ran normally for about two weeks then tonight without > warning the machine booted up, went through the entire check and > goto loading the NIC driver and....... > > NOTHING.... black screen (no flashing cursor), > followed by the video BIOS message..... > and you guessed it... right through to loading the NIC.. ZAP back to rebooting... > > Brian Butler (thanks Brian) has seen this before and suggested > taking the '+' out of the JFS driver line in CONFIG.SYS. It worked > but we are none the wiser to the cause. > > Brian is using a much older version of OS/2 and this looks like a > resource or driver conflict happening. > > Anyone got any ideas? > > regards > > Greg > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. > > iQA/AwUBPkhYuiRXBYWFz/DyEQJfhgCg43lt+eAC30rcpUPd5O2zzqJe6LQAnRUo > XTyrcpQv5zec/flCDwUOL4eZ > =Xcol > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:55 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Web page graphics Hi Ed >I'm having problems when I use Netscape composer to create web pages >with JPG pictures. Remove the extended attributes from the jpg's. Cheers Ian B Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ If you said what you thought, you'd be speechless. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:53 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "Gregory Hicks" Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ian, no, didn't "jag it". i used a maint partition (OS/2 of course) and removed the +..... this was implied in the first e-mail... boot not going past the nic driver.. no pm gets up... you need to picture the problem... power on Video BIOS BIOS Mem Test BIOS Messages (found hd1 etc) Looking for boot in CD.. floppy... HD1 Boot Manager Drive C/Drive D C is my main one and the default (i usually wonder off and get a drink for this) Loads up first OS/2 splash screen goes to text mode... gets through 8 phases on JFS tests, two partitions E and F (something else here.. not important) loads NIC says cable is there.. re-boot will do this till i get sick of it.. (it went round once when I thought it was taking a bit long and a third time by the time I knew I had a problem). I was on a new installation and had to install the maintenance partition before I could fix the problem. The ONLY difference between 6 am when I shut down and the next start up at 5pm (yep the machine ran all night) was the presence of the 1.3 million files for the CD database. After installing D and getting into C:\config.sys did the rebooting stop. I deleted files from the command line (gosh Ian, do you remember the Heathkit 6800 trainer??) and that still took about 25 minutes per sub-directory..... and still pushed the CPU graph flat on the roof. Today when I did all the deletion then CPU load rose to 100% flat as and stayed there for nearly thrirty minites AFTER all the deletes were done, there was no other activity. So why is the CPU straining? Now back to the + in config.sys.. put it in - reboot, take it out OK... JFS seems to be the problem when asked to map the entire drive activity out in memory and make comparisons for consistency. I have finished the removal of all the files except the 1.35MB monster and will reboot at the end of this sentence. Well, it just went through to booting everything including PM Manager.. the network is also back on line. I can't explain it either, but with the monster file contents unfurled the machine would not boot with +E+F. Any better ideas from this description? On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 01:47:21 +1100 (EDT), Ian Manners wrote: >Hi Greg > >>Its interesting to note we have slipped on one item in this thread... > >Not really, just didnt mention it :-) > >>how come the machine reboots just after the nic and well and truely before the PM (and not little johnny) >>is brought up? > >Its a combination of the + in your command line, and the PM will >possibly be unstable on a fall over or reboot, as it records what >files are being deleted, and these were not closed when the >PC fell over. If you did it several times it may have jagged it and >come up cleanly. Its more complecated than that but I'm losing >steam, this new job I have at iPrimus is taking its toll today. > >Cheers >Ian B Manners >http://www.os2site dot com/ > >Windows: The CP/M of the future! > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPknfCCRXBYWFz/DyEQIxIgCfWoXkRfX05iR8+txbIdRh7GjdIZoAn2bi Y1xKBOMQ/PVLh2SGqY8zrLWr =1zRs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:55 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Web page graphics Hi Daryl >I'd be blowed, now what is the best way to do this? >Open up DOS box & copy the file, which will destroy the EAs. Hadnt thought of that but then I dont have DOS loaded. I use UniMaint but there are also other EA stripper programs around, best to look on hobbes or os2site. Transfering files via FTP also automatically strips EA's from files. Cheers Ian B Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ 4. I'd explain it to you, but your brain would explode. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:54 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "John Angelico" Subject: Test-List: [os2genau] Melbourne OS/2 SIG 25th Feb 2003 Hello all! A short note to say that the Melbourne Victoria (as distinct from Melbourne Florida) OS/2 SIG will be meeting next Tuesday Feb 25th in the usual venue (map available at www./melbpc/) from 6:30pm Topics of intense interest will include:- News/Views: latest developments in the world of PC computing and eCS-OS/2 DTOC: a demonstration of the current release of Desktop on Call for OS/2, using a local server and client - right before your very eyes OS/2 Usefuls: a collection of software, manuals etc for OS/2 which has been donated to SIG members Whilst I can't be there due to a double-booking, Bob and Ian will host the evening in their inimitable style ;-) and I hope to catch up with the March meeting Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG talldad at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au -------------------------------------- PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... Having another excellent OS/2 Warp day. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:54 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: Trevor Jacobs Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Accounting Software Greetings Alan, On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:33:25 +1000, you wrote: >To all those at the Melbourne OS/2 Sig who saw my demonstration of the >accounting software, I am pleased to be able to let you know current >progress. I am a MelbPC member, but OS/2 SIG meetings are not convenient for me, so I didn't see your demo. Nonetheless, this seems of interest, so a couple of questions : Is this a "business" app only or is it a realistic replacement for (domestic) Quicken ? (Yes, I know one can use a full business system for home accounts, but .......) Potential for use as recorder of investment transactions, and in particular share transactions ? Is saved data accessible ? (So that, for example, the shares transactions data can reprocessed for other purposes) Look forward to hearing from you, at a time which is convenient to you. tj -- some quotes perceptive, some pedestrian, none mine :-) "Most conversations are simply monologues delivered in the presence of a witness." (Margaret Millar) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:53 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem Hi Greg and Ed The problem is in the WPS in relation to the number of files. And deleting them through the WPS is asking for trouble :-) This isnt a JFS limitation as far as I'm aware. If you use PMMail, and have over 500 emails in one folder and try to delete all of them, you will notice the same thing, though you want lose the WPS, you might as well go and watch TV for 20-30 mins, or longer. As Ed suggested, use something from the command line, its a lot faster. I use deltree, available on hobbes and os2site in the util's section. Cheers Ian B Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ Windows NT: From the makers of Windows 3.0! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:55 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Melbourne OS/2 SIG 25th Feb 2003 ** Reply to note from "John Angelico" Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:57:49 +1100 (EDT) > DTOC: a demonstration of the current release of Desktop on Call for > OS/2, using a local server and client - right before your very eyes where is the home page for DTOC ? Voytek Eymont ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:55 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Test-List: [os2genau] Web page graphics I'm having problems when I use Netscape composer to create web pages with JPG pictures. When the web page is loaded often graphic files are only loaded up to 97 98 or 99 percent and then stop loading, although the text at the bottom of NS451 or Mozilla says it's still loading. A reload or shift/reload usually cures the problem. The problem only seems to happen on my web pages and with large or small graphic files. I'm using IBM HTTP Server (OS/2 port of Apache) as my web server. Has anyone else experienced this problem and knows how to fix it ? Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:55 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: bob Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Web page graphics On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:20 pm, you wrote: > Hi Ian, > I'd be blowed, now what is the best way to do this? > Open up DOS box & copy the file, which will destroy the EAs. Use eautil -- Advertising is a valuable economic factor because it is the cheapest way of selling goods, particularly if the goods are worthless. -- Sinclair Lewis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:51 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Web page graphics Unfortunately none of the files have extended attributes. Ed. Ian Manners wrote: > Hi Ed > > >I'm having problems when I use Netscape composer to create web pages > >with JPG pictures. > > Remove the extended attributes from the jpg's. > > Cheers > Ian B Manners > http://www.os2site dot com/ > > If you said what you thought, you'd be speechless. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:54 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "John Angelico" Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] free OS/2 stuff to good homes On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 20:53:52 +1100, Michael Block wrote: >>> if someone wants to bring the syuff along to a SIG meeting, just ring >>> me at home on 95273209 or email me. >> >> Since you mailed this to my sig-leader address I am copying it out to >> the list address. >> >> Anyone in Michael's direction (Langwarrin?) able to assist? > >StKilda East Doh! [sound of head crash - face striking keyboard, that is!] Forgot where those phone numbers belong. Read it like 9727... and confused you with Michael Barrow. Sorry! Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG talldad at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au -------------------------------------- PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... There is no job so smiple it cannot be done wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 14 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:53 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "Gregory Hicks" Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ed, Yes, REXX support is on here. Please send. If this fixes the problem then we may be on something. Mind you, I find JFS quite good to use. On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 20:22:26 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: >I guess you can confirm this if you boot to a command prompt and delete the possibly offending directory >structure and see if the problem dissapears. > >I have a small rexx routine to delete directory structures if you want to save yourself some manual effort >(assuming you have REXX support on your system). Let me know if you want this and I'll send you it off-list. > >Ed. > >Gregory Hicks wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Brian, Ed, >> >> I have a theory on this.... >> >> The problem began after downloading a CD database. The file is 182MB tar.gz. Ungzip you get a >> 1.35GB tar file. >> >> untarring you get about a dozen sub-directories full of files on average 1k each.. that is a LOT of files... >> >> In OS/2 PM, accessing any of those sub-directories quickly freezes the PM (the clock stops and the >> desktop is unresponsive), while the mouse is free to roam. >> >> I think we are seeing a limitation in JFS directory structure. I did open an OS/2 window and try deleting >> files at that level. The operation was very slow and quickly takes up resources (as evidenced by the >> climbing CPU graph). >> >> JFS did trap when I tried to reboot, and no other directory I have has so many files in it. >> >> Further, after trying to display just one of these directories, it took nearly 30 minutes with 512M RAM >> (133MHz) and a 900MHz processor to display the list of files. After closing the list, I tried to ask for a >> delete and got a message box stating "OS/2 Workplace Error" "The task you requested was not >> started. Please allow other active tasks to complete before resuming the operation". Just before >> making this request, my CPU process was near 0% then jumped to 100%. >> >> So we must ask our selves (sorry Julius) Why is it so? >> >> If the JFS with +E+F is scanning the drive and mapping the entire drive to check the consistency, then I >> am suspect that the JFS may in fact have a memory leak as the structure sizes approach limits of the >> underlying programs integer/byte values. >> >> Brian has experienced the same reboot problem, and mine only started after the tar file was unfurled >> into the JFS partition, then I believe this to be a fairly clear case. >> >> Brian, see if you can find a directory that behaves as I describe. >> >> Well, that's my theory, any better ideas out there? Lets hear em!!! :) >> >> On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 06:32:01 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: >> >> >The default setting for the JFS IFS is as follows: >> > >> >IFS=C:\OS2\JFS.IFS /AUTOCHECK:* >> > >> >The +driveletter is really for use on the HPFS IFS to force a full checkdisk on particular drives each >> >time the system is booted. JFS works differently - it always runs it's "chkdsk" (ie it checks the >> >transaction logs to see if a chkdsk is needed), so the + command is redundant. >> > >> > >> >Cheers/2 >> > >> >Ed. >> > >> >Gregory Hicks wrote: >> > >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I am running JFS and encountered an odd operation. >> >> >> >> with the (partial) command line set to: >> >> >> >> IFS=.. JFS... /CACHE:32768 ...+E+F /F:2 >> >> >> >> the machine ran normally for about two weeks then tonight without >> >> warning the machine booted up, went through the entire check and >> >> goto loading the NIC driver and....... >> >> >> >> NOTHING.... black screen (no flashing cursor), >> >> followed by the video BIOS message..... >> >> and you guessed it... right through to loading the NIC.. ZAP back to rebooting... >> >> >> >> Brian Butler (thanks Brian) has seen this before and suggested >> >> taking the '+' out of the JFS driver line in CONFIG.SYS. It worked >> >> but we are none the wiser to the cause. >> >> >> >> Brian is using a much older version of OS/2 and this looks like a >> >> resource or driver conflict happening. >> >> >> >> Anyone got any ideas? >> >> >> >> regards >> >> >> >> Greg >> >> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated >> companies. >> >> >> >> iQA/AwUBPkhYuiRXBYWFz/DyEQJfhgCg43lt+eAC30rcpUPd5O2zzqJe6LQAnRUo >> >> XTyrcpQv5zec/flCDwUOL4eZ >> >> =Xcol >> >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. >> >> iQA/AwUBPkly2iRXBYWFz/DyEQJSwACeIOzkituftztcrIb+y370d5y9IKYAoNep >> gunk3GZ0jswM/pChmKogMZP0 >> =FydR >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > >> > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPkmL7yRXBYWFz/DyEQIq7QCgn8XOLygUsPaUE+WzYqBjqJd3fBwAn2uT Fg4VjLap1RTIq7F8/NTrNpdn =2Ocg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 15 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:52 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "peter" Subject: Test-List: [os2genau] warp server auction G'day all, Not much notice, but an un-opened Warp Server packageis up for auction on ebay. Expires midnight tonight, 11/02/2003. If you're interested. Can't justify it to she who must be obeyed, myself. The url is: http://cgi.ebay dot com dot au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3400120318 Regards, Peter Pigott created with Polarbar Mailer v.124c (build 1476), using IBM Java V.1.3.1 on eComStation v. 1.03 21:11:55 11 Feb 2003 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 16 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:53 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "Gregory Hicks" Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Its interesting to note we have slipped on one item in this thread... how come the machine reboots just after the nic and well and truely before the PM (and not little johnny) is brought up? On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 00:28:47 +1100 (EDT), Ian Manners wrote: >Hi Greg and Ed > >The problem is in the WPS in relation to the number of files. And >deleting them through the WPS is asking for trouble :-) > >This isnt a JFS limitation as far as I'm aware. > >If you use PMMail, and have over 500 emails in one folder >and try to delete all of them, you will notice the same thing, >though you want lose the WPS, you might as well go and >watch TV for 20-30 mins, or longer. > >As Ed suggested, use something from the command line, its >a lot faster. I use deltree, available on hobbes and os2site >in the util's section. > >Cheers >Ian B Manners >http://www.os2site dot com/ > >Windows NT: From the makers of Windows 3.0! > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPknSCyRXBYWFz/DyEQJjeQCfWXncCeJj5JAvbYcbjIuuLWA1PP8AoIry vLhe//JNiPpNLMrtE+BEnhP/ =KJUc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 17 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:55 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "Alan Heiser" Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Accounting Software Trevor ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Trevor Jacobs" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:29 PM >Subject: Re: [os2genau] Accounting Software >I am a MelbPC member, but OS/2 SIG meetings are not convenient for me, >so I didn't see your demo. >Nonetheless, this seems of interest, so a couple of questions : >Is this a "business" app only or is it a realistic replacement for >(domestic) Quicken ? (Yes, I know one can use a full business >system for home accounts, but .......) It is a "business" app in that it is large enough to handle a large catering company's complete record-keeping requirements (for payroll I used to cheat a little - data entry through spreadsheets), but is a very small program which I also use for my personal work, so would not be out of place on the kitchen table. >Potential for use as recorder of investment transactions, and in >particular share transactions ? Haven't gone so far yet - Portfolio Management is a different area. Using sub-accounts and quantity fields, (both available) and a lot of imagination, you probably could run a simple portfolio manager, but it has not been designed with that in mind. >Is saved data accessible ? (So that, for example, the shares >transactions data can reprocessed for other purposes) Could be made available - not sure how to do the ODBC calls into a spread sheet, but I can list the data in CSV format and get it into a spreadsheet that way. >Look forward to hearing from you, at a time which is convenient to >you. >tj ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 18 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:52 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Web page graphics The way to do it is to use EAUTIL with the /S (strip) switch to strip off the attributes into another file (which then can be deleted). e.g. EAUTIL picture1.jpg p1.eas /S Ed. Daryl Pilkington wrote: > Hi Ian, > I'd be blowed, now what is the best way to do this? > Open up DOS box & copy the file, which will destroy the EAs. > > On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 21:08:55 +1100 (EDT), Ian Manners wrote: > > >Hi Ed > > > >>I'm having problems when I use Netscape composer to create web pages > >>with JPG pictures. > > > >Remove the extended attributes from the jpg's. > > > > Regards, > > Daryl Pilkington > > //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration > O \_/ > OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 > IBM Certified Systems Expert > > email: darylp at pc-therapist dot com dot au > Mob: 0425-251-300 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 19 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:53 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: Wayne Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Is the internet slow for anyone else today ? from Wayne Kircher Had the same thing here so I gave up for a while. It became fast again about 4am. Possibly heavy traffic on the Superhighway? Cheers Wayne >Hi guys, >My download times here on chariot are in the bytes, not Kbytes ! >The ping results to my isp are 110/10238/30130 with a 6% packet loss. >I'm unable to even d/l their homepage to see if there's any news. >Tell me this is happening to other people today !?! >Glenn. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 20 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:54 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "Alan Heiser" Subject: Test-List: [os2genau] Accounting Software To all those at the Melbourne OS/2 Sig who saw my demonstration of the accounting software, I am pleased to be able to let you know current progress. Stand alone general ledger is now working as it should. Will handle any business whether set up as a company, trust or partnership. Debtors and Creditors will work if you run a catering business. Features include native OS/2 PM program works equally well on eComStation handles profit distributions for companies, trusts or partnerships at year end processing and correctly allocates to the correct partner or Retained Earnings account. data entry handles processing for cheques, bank statement items, bank deposits, petty cash and general journals. Petty Cash doubles as a post anything system and is particularly useful for credit cards and the like. Bank deposit entries also print a bank deposit slip. Correctly accounts for GST During data entry, general ledger accounts can be accessed by looking up their name Handles and reconciles multiple bank accounts (currently artificially limited to 5), and corrects posting errors if they do not agree with the bank statement. Reconciliation is by entering reference number and amount off bank statement rather than trying to find an item in a list and see if it agrees with what is on the bank statement. Reports include full audit trails, general ledger detail reports and trial balance for a period or range of accounts. Quick lookup shows summary information of any account and profit by period with comparatives. Compared to MYOB it is amazingly fast. Marketing information, in the form of notes and contact information attached to customer files available, as is printing enelopes to direct mail customers Still to be done is BAS reporting (need to write report format only) Split sales invoices from the catering system to allow full debtors ledger facilities integrated with general ledger and inventory Split purchasing from catering system to allow full creditors ledger integrated with general ledger and inventory all payroll functions Hope this will be of interest to the OS/2 eComStation Community Alan Heiser ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 21 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:52 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "Gregory Hicks" Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Is the internet slow for anyone else today ? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Glen, You may find that the net is slow during the day due to heavy lunch time usage. Do you experience this at other times of the day? You might like to research TCPIP update as this can cause the symptoms you describe. greg On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 20:00:38 -0600, tsq at chariot dot net dot au wrote: >Hi guys, > >My download times here on chariot are in the bytes, not Kbytes ! >The ping results to my isp are 110/10238/30130 with a 6% packet loss. >I'm unable to even d/l their homepage to see if there's any news. > >Full story  > >Upgraded to driver fixpak 2 ... finally >everything's fine except net flow is very slow. > >Had a problem like this a couple of years ago and some replies >suggested an mpts upgrade, ok, > >Upgraded mpts to 5.40 then 5.50 ( versions as reported by warpup ) >no change net still slow >computer gets slow then trap000e >long format bootdrive install backup leaving me at fp12 ddfp1 mpts 5.30 >net still slow, 12 minutes & it still hasn't d/l'd the chariot homepage ! >now I'm gettin' ..... a tad upset ;-) > >Tell me this is happening to other people today !?! >Glenn. >-- >----------------------------------------------------------- >tsq at chariot dot net dot au >OS/2 Users Group of South Australia >www. >----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPkhUWiRXBYWFz/DyEQI9gACg4xz6FhtZBo3xZZFg/Z80NWqZV0wAoMdu a9DT1CxS9H+E8uEi/Etn10Sr =cs5A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 22 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:53 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem I guess you can confirm this if you boot to a command prompt and delete the possibly offending directory structure and see if the problem dissapears. I have a small rexx routine to delete directory structures if you want to save yourself some manual effort (assuming you have REXX support on your system). Let me know if you want this and I'll send you it off-list. Ed. Gregory Hicks wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Brian, Ed, > > I have a theory on this.... > > The problem began after downloading a CD database. The file is 182MB tar.gz. Ungzip you get a > 1.35GB tar file. > > untarring you get about a dozen sub-directories full of files on average 1k each.. that is a LOT of files... > > In OS/2 PM, accessing any of those sub-directories quickly freezes the PM (the clock stops and the > desktop is unresponsive), while the mouse is free to roam. > > I think we are seeing a limitation in JFS directory structure. I did open an OS/2 window and try deleting > files at that level. The operation was very slow and quickly takes up resources (as evidenced by the > climbing CPU graph). > > JFS did trap when I tried to reboot, and no other directory I have has so many files in it. > > Further, after trying to display just one of these directories, it took nearly 30 minutes with 512M RAM > (133MHz) and a 900MHz processor to display the list of files. After closing the list, I tried to ask for a > delete and got a message box stating "OS/2 Workplace Error" "The task you requested was not > started. Please allow other active tasks to complete before resuming the operation". Just before > making this request, my CPU process was near 0% then jumped to 100%. > > So we must ask our selves (sorry Julius) Why is it so? > > If the JFS with +E+F is scanning the drive and mapping the entire drive to check the consistency, then I > am suspect that the JFS may in fact have a memory leak as the structure sizes approach limits of the > underlying programs integer/byte values. > > Brian has experienced the same reboot problem, and mine only started after the tar file was unfurled > into the JFS partition, then I believe this to be a fairly clear case. > > Brian, see if you can find a directory that behaves as I describe. > > Well, that's my theory, any better ideas out there? Lets hear em!!! :) > > On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 06:32:01 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: > > >The default setting for the JFS IFS is as follows: > > > >IFS=C:\OS2\JFS.IFS /AUTOCHECK:* > > > >The +driveletter is really for use on the HPFS IFS to force a full checkdisk on particular drives each > >time the system is booted. JFS works differently - it always runs it's "chkdsk" (ie it checks the > >transaction logs to see if a chkdsk is needed), so the + command is redundant. > > > > > >Cheers/2 > > > >Ed. > > > >Gregory Hicks wrote: > > > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I am running JFS and encountered an odd operation. > >> > >> with the (partial) command line set to: > >> > >> IFS=.. JFS... /CACHE:32768 ...+E+F /F:2 > >> > >> the machine ran normally for about two weeks then tonight without > >> warning the machine booted up, went through the entire check and > >> goto loading the NIC driver and....... > >> > >> NOTHING.... black screen (no flashing cursor), > >> followed by the video BIOS message..... > >> and you guessed it... right through to loading the NIC.. ZAP back to rebooting... > >> > >> Brian Butler (thanks Brian) has seen this before and suggested > >> taking the '+' out of the JFS driver line in CONFIG.SYS. It worked > >> but we are none the wiser to the cause. > >> > >> Brian is using a much older version of OS/2 and this looks like a > >> resource or driver conflict happening. > >> > >> Anyone got any ideas? > >> > >> regards > >> > >> Greg > >> > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated > companies. > >> > >> iQA/AwUBPkhYuiRXBYWFz/DyEQJfhgCg43lt+eAC30rcpUPd5O2zzqJe6LQAnRUo > >> XTyrcpQv5zec/flCDwUOL4eZ > >> =Xcol > >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. > > iQA/AwUBPkly2iRXBYWFz/DyEQJSwACeIOzkituftztcrIb+y370d5y9IKYAoNep > gunk3GZ0jswM/pChmKogMZP0 > =FydR > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 23 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:55 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "Alan Heiser" Subject: Test-List: [os2genau] Fw: Accounting Software John, Hope you don't mind my copying your reply to the list You ask such good questions which I have addressed below Regards Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Heiser" To: "John Angelico" Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:58 PM Subject: Re: Accounting Software > > Do you issue calls through ODBC driver/s or via direct API to the Sybase > > SQL engine? Direct API Calls through embedded SQL > > I am wondering how easy it would be to port to another DBMS like OS/2s DB2 > > UDB Personal (free for download) or the PostgreSQL engine (open source). I have recently downloaded Postgres to look at the possibility of using that. The problem will be extensions to SQL made by Sybase not echoed in Postgres The problem I see with DB2 (apart from the fact that I find its ISQL calls really slow) is that the OS/2 version is no longer developed, and we would be left in a similar position to the Sysbase position. > If there was something Aust/NZ/Sth Africa/UK flavoured that could go out > to the OS/2-eCS community to stand side by side with Spitfire's In Charge! > (US focused), it would be great evidence of life for many OS/2ers. As I said in the post - stacks up really (really, really) well against MYOB. I can reboot the machine, start the program and be examining a general ledger account quicker than a running MYOB can display general ledger detail. ( I have an NT machine running MYOB right beside my OS/2 machine, and can actually do that.) The Aus etc flavour is in date handling, book-keeping style. Dates are easily switched to any style, but not sure how the yanks keep their books - bit like HIH did I think, but it is definitely Oz today tomorrow the world. > > I suggest a rewrite to incorporate tax codes would be useful for future > > expansion, and to cater for rate changes. Do you REALLY beleive our benovlent dictator, Little Johnie, will make that necessary. Come on John, have faith! Actually it's a simple screen which will appear in the program shortly, when I get round to writing the BAS report. As you say, I only need to tabulate Input Tax and Output Tax for each of the various Codes that go in the BAS. > Split Name and address table out so it can be independent of accounting > but > accessible (if not already done). Already exists as a marketing tool > > >all payroll functions > > This one is called the headache pile! Ouch! Been thinking about this and it is really quite simple. I have a spreadsheet now which accurately calculates group tax for the full range of incomes, so a screen allowing input of hours, job numbers etc coupled with a couple of award rules should give a good payroll. I already have the tables for reporting payroll (which I currently fill from a spreadsheet). > > Great work! Thanks - bigger & better to come > > Best regards > > John Angelico > > OS/2 SIG > > talldad at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 24 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:51 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Web page graphics ** Reply to note from "Ian Manners" Mon, 10 Feb 2003 23:45:37 +1100 (EDT) > >I'd be blowed, now what is the best way to do this? > >Open up DOS box & copy the file, which will destroy the EAs. > > Hadnt thought of that but then I dont have DOS loaded. > I use UniMaint but there are also other EA stripper programs > around, best to look on hobbes or os2site. help eautil Allows you to split (save) extended attributes from a file and then rejoin the extended attributes to the file. EAUTIL ÄÄÄ datafile ÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄ ÀÄ holdfile ÄÙ ÃÄ /S ÄÂÄÄÄÄÄÄÂÄ´ ³ ÀÄ /R ÄÙ ³ ÀÄ /J ÄÂÄÄÄÄÄÄÂÄÙ ÃÄ /O Ä´ ÀÄ /M ÄÙ ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ´ ÀÄ /P ÄÙ An extended attribute is a mechanism that allows an application to attach information to a file or directory (file system object). Extended attributes are used to describe the object to another application, to the operating system, or to the file system program that manages the file or directory. EAUTIL allows you to split extended attributes from a data file or program file and place them in a hold file as data. After you do this, you can use the file with other applications or file systems that do not recognize or are not able to process extended attributes. By saving extended attributes to a hold file, you prevent them from being erased or lost. The command also allows you to join extended attributes contained in the hold file to the data file. Return Codes: 0 - Normal completion 1 - File not found 4 - Ended due to error Voytek Eymont SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/ phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 25 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:54 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Wiping HD's ** Reply to note from "Gavin Miller" Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:04:09 +1100 (EDT) > Anyone know how to completely wipe a hd clean with no possability of recovery; to > have a like new hd as it were. hmmm, low level formatting used to do so, not sure it does with all these 'new' IDE drives, I did a BIOS 'low level' format only to find the dat was still on the hard drive after. I sposse format /l followed by HPFSNUll/WipeFree: both Graham and Gammatech have utilities to zero the data free space: ÉÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ The Graham Integrator ÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ» º FAT-Bad ³ º º FAT-Dfrg ³ HPFSNull - Wipe the contents of HPFS disks º º FAT-Ext ³ º º FAT-Info ³ Usage: HPFSNull {Switches} Drive Spec(s) º º FAT-Null ³ º º FAT-UD ³ Switches º º FAT-View ³ -g Government security rules for wiping. º º FromUNIX ³ -r Repeat wipe count; default of 1. º º Grep ³ -v wipe Value; default of 0. º º HexDump ³ º º HexEdit ³ HPFSNull wipes all data in the free spaces on º º HPFS-Bad ³ HPFS disks. This is done on a sector by sector º º HPFS-Ext ³ basis to ensure that all deleted data is wiped º º HPFS-UD ³ so that there is no chance of recovery. º º HPFSDfrg ³ º º HPFSInfo ³ A drive specification must be entered. º º HPFSNull ³ º º HPFSStat ³ º º HPFSView ³ º º MIDecode ³ º º MIEncode ³ º ºÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄĺ º HPFSNULL º ÈÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ Press F1 for Help ͼ 0[roman][F:\gt4]wipefree GammaTech Utilities Version 4.00 Copyright GammaTech Inc. 1991-1998 All rights reserved. Usage: WIPEFREE d: [/g] d: The drive to wipe. /f Perform fast unsecure wipe. /g Use DOD wipe procedure. 0[roman][F:\gt4] Voytek Eymont SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/ phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 26 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:53 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: Wayne Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Is the Internet slow ... from Wayne Kircher Hi Greg >"Super highway" - defined as a wide band of something more traffic can jam up in & takes twice as long to clear up. So I'm not the only pessimist around here. Cheers Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 27 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:54 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "Robert Traynor (BobT)" Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] free OS/2 stuff to good homes Hi Michael, John and ALL, I know where Michaels place is and will phone him to arrange a pickup and delivery to the os2 SIG. I will phone later today (sunday) to confirm convenient time. Regards, Robert Traynor (BobT). 16 February 2003 8:50 On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 20:48:04 +1100 (EDT), John Angelico wrote: > On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:00:25 +1100, Michael Block wrote: > > >Hi > > Hi Michael > > >having made my transition from my beloved OS/2 running PCs to Mac OSX, > > Good luck and well done - hope you're not having to use too much MS-stuff > there. > > >I have lots of OS/2 stuff that I'm happy to donate free to SIG members: > >software, manuals etc - all someone needs to do is to come and pick it > >up! > > >I do miss the WPS, but otherwise OS X is pretty good! > > So I hear. > > >if someone wants to bring the syuff along to a SIG meeting, just ring > >me at home on 95273209 or email me. > > Since you mailed this to my sig-leader address I am copying it out to the > list address. > > Anyone in Michael's direction (Langwarrin?) able to assist? > > >regards > >Michael Block > > > >caca et declina medicus > > Could this mean "catch a falling doctor" or "here's a sleeping medico"? ,-._|\ Robert Traynor (BobT) / Oz \ email rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au \_,--.x/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 28 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:52 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: tsq at chariot dot net dot au Subject: Test-List: [os2genau] Is the internet slow for anyone else today ? Hi guys, My download times here on chariot are in the bytes, not Kbytes ! The ping results to my isp are 110/10238/30130 with a 6% packet loss. I'm unable to even d/l their homepage to see if there's any news. Full story  Upgraded to driver fixpak 2 ... finally everything's fine except net flow is very slow. Had a problem like this a couple of years ago and some replies suggested an mpts upgrade, ok, Upgraded mpts to 5.40 then 5.50 ( versions as reported by warpup ) no change net still slow computer gets slow then trap000e long format bootdrive install backup leaving me at fp12 ddfp1 mpts 5.30 net still slow, 12 minutes & it still hasn't d/l'd the chariot homepage ! now I'm gettin' ..... a tad upset ;-) Tell me this is happening to other people today !?! Glenn. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- tsq at chariot dot net dot au OS/2 Users Group of South Australia www. ----------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 29 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:52 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "Gregory Hicks" Subject: Test-List: [os2genau] Interesting Problem -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I am running JFS and encountered an odd operation. with the (partial) command line set to: IFS=.. JFS... /CACHE:32768 ...+E+F /F:2 the machine ran normally for about two weeks then tonight without warning the machine booted up, went through the entire check and goto loading the NIC driver and....... NOTHING.... black screen (no flashing cursor), followed by the video BIOS message..... and you guessed it... right through to loading the NIC.. ZAP back to rebooting... Brian Butler (thanks Brian) has seen this before and suggested taking the '+' out of the JFS driver line in CONFIG.SYS. It worked but we are none the wiser to the cause. Brian is using a much older version of OS/2 and this looks like a resource or driver conflict happening. Anyone got any ideas? regards Greg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPkhYuiRXBYWFz/DyEQJfhgCg43lt+eAC30rcpUPd5O2zzqJe6LQAnRUo XTyrcpQv5zec/flCDwUOL4eZ =Xcol -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 30 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:54 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "Gavin Miller" Subject: Test-List: [os2genau] Wiping HD's Hi all, Anyone know how to completely wipe a hd clean with no possability of recovery; to have a like new hd as it were. Cheers G ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 31 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:55 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Wiping HD's On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:04:09 +1100 (EDT), Gavin Miller wrote: Er, my utilities... :-) >Hi all, > >Anyone know how to completely wipe a hd clean with no possability of recovery; to >have a like new hd as it were. > >Cheers >G > > > -Chris WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2. Voice: +61-3-9307-0611 PO Box 212 FidoNet: 3:632/344 FAX: +61-3-9307-0633 Brunswick Internet: chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au BBS: +61-3-9307-0644 VIC 3056 CompuServe: 100250,1645 300-28,800 N,8,1 ANSI Australia Web Page: http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 32 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:52 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "Gregory Hicks" Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Brian, Ed, I have a theory on this.... The problem began after downloading a CD database. The file is 182MB tar.gz. Ungzip you get a 1.35GB tar file. untarring you get about a dozen sub-directories full of files on average 1k each.. that is a LOT of files... In OS/2 PM, accessing any of those sub-directories quickly freezes the PM (the clock stops and the desktop is unresponsive), while the mouse is free to roam. I think we are seeing a limitation in JFS directory structure. I did open an OS/2 window and try deleting files at that level. The operation was very slow and quickly takes up resources (as evidenced by the climbing CPU graph). JFS did trap when I tried to reboot, and no other directory I have has so many files in it. Further, after trying to display just one of these directories, it took nearly 30 minutes with 512M RAM (133MHz) and a 900MHz processor to display the list of files. After closing the list, I tried to ask for a delete and got a message box stating "OS/2 Workplace Error" "The task you requested was not started. Please allow other active tasks to complete before resuming the operation". Just before making this request, my CPU process was near 0% then jumped to 100%. So we must ask our selves (sorry Julius) Why is it so? If the JFS with +E+F is scanning the drive and mapping the entire drive to check the consistency, then I am suspect that the JFS may in fact have a memory leak as the structure sizes approach limits of the underlying programs integer/byte values. Brian has experienced the same reboot problem, and mine only started after the tar file was unfurled into the JFS partition, then I believe this to be a fairly clear case. Brian, see if you can find a directory that behaves as I describe. Well, that's my theory, any better ideas out there? Lets hear em!!! :) On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 06:32:01 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: >The default setting for the JFS IFS is as follows: > >IFS=C:\OS2\JFS.IFS /AUTOCHECK:* > >The +driveletter is really for use on the HPFS IFS to force a full checkdisk on particular drives each >time the system is booted. JFS works differently - it always runs it's "chkdsk" (ie it checks the >transaction logs to see if a chkdsk is needed), so the + command is redundant. > > >Cheers/2 > >Ed. > >Gregory Hicks wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hi, >> >> I am running JFS and encountered an odd operation. >> >> with the (partial) command line set to: >> >> IFS=.. JFS... /CACHE:32768 ...+E+F /F:2 >> >> the machine ran normally for about two weeks then tonight without >> warning the machine booted up, went through the entire check and >> goto loading the NIC driver and....... >> >> NOTHING.... black screen (no flashing cursor), >> followed by the video BIOS message..... >> and you guessed it... right through to loading the NIC.. ZAP back to rebooting... >> >> Brian Butler (thanks Brian) has seen this before and suggested >> taking the '+' out of the JFS driver line in CONFIG.SYS. It worked >> but we are none the wiser to the cause. >> >> Brian is using a much older version of OS/2 and this looks like a >> resource or driver conflict happening. >> >> Anyone got any ideas? >> >> regards >> >> Greg >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. >> >> iQA/AwUBPkhYuiRXBYWFz/DyEQJfhgCg43lt+eAC30rcpUPd5O2zzqJe6LQAnRUo >> XTyrcpQv5zec/flCDwUOL4eZ >> =Xcol >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > >> > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPkly2iRXBYWFz/DyEQJSwACeIOzkituftztcrIb+y370d5y9IKYAoNep gunk3GZ0jswM/pChmKogMZP0 =FydR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 33 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:53 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: John Wildgoose Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem Um group, I do not know of this problem but I seriously doubt it is due to JFS inherently, after where JFS comes from they have many huge complicated directory structures with thousands of files just as I have at work in Solaris Unix. The prob may be with the port but I suspect some other culprit. The memory leak idea seems to fit the facts but who is the culprit. jaw On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Gregory Hicks wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Ed, > > Yes, REXX support is on here. > > Please send. If this fixes the problem then we may be on something. > > Mind you, I find JFS quite good to use. > > On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 20:22:26 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: > > >I guess you can confirm this if you boot to a command prompt and delete the possibly offending > directory > >structure and see if the problem dissapears. > > > >I have a small rexx routine to delete directory structures if you want to save yourself some manual effort > >(assuming you have REXX support on your system). Let me know if you want this and I'll send you it > off-list. > > > >Ed. > > > >Gregory Hicks wrote: > > > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Brian, Ed, > >> > >> I have a theory on this.... > >> > >> The problem began after downloading a CD database. The file is 182MB tar.gz. Ungzip you get a > >> 1.35GB tar file. > >> > >> untarring you get about a dozen sub-directories full of files on average 1k each.. that is a LOT of > files... > >> > >> In OS/2 PM, accessing any of those sub-directories quickly freezes the PM (the clock stops and the > >> desktop is unresponsive), while the mouse is free to roam. > >> > >> I think we are seeing a limitation in JFS directory structure. I did open an OS/2 window and try > deleting > >> files at that level. The operation was very slow and quickly takes up resources (as evidenced by the > >> climbing CPU graph). > >> > >> JFS did trap when I tried to reboot, and no other directory I have has so many files in it. > >> > >> Further, after trying to display just one of these directories, it took nearly 30 minutes with 512M RAM > >> (133MHz) and a 900MHz processor to display the list of files. After closing the list, I tried to ask for > a > >> delete and got a message box stating "OS/2 Workplace Error" "The task you requested was not > >> started. Please allow other active tasks to complete before resuming the operation". Just before > >> making this request, my CPU process was near 0% then jumped to 100%. > >> > >> So we must ask our selves (sorry Julius) Why is it so? > >> > >> If the JFS with +E+F is scanning the drive and mapping the entire drive to check the consistency, > then I > >> am suspect that the JFS may in fact have a memory leak as the structure sizes approach limits of > the > >> underlying programs integer/byte values. > >> > >> Brian has experienced the same reboot problem, and mine only started after the tar file was unfurled > >> into the JFS partition, then I believe this to be a fairly clear case. > >> > >> Brian, see if you can find a directory that behaves as I describe. > >> > >> Well, that's my theory, any better ideas out there? Lets hear em!!! :) > >> > >> On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 06:32:01 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: > >> > >> >The default setting for the JFS IFS is as follows: > >> > > >> >IFS=C:\OS2\JFS.IFS /AUTOCHECK:* > >> > > >> >The +driveletter is really for use on the HPFS IFS to force a full checkdisk on particular drives each > >> >time the system is booted. JFS works differently - it always runs it's "chkdsk" (ie it checks the > >> >transaction logs to see if a chkdsk is needed), so the + command is redundant. > >> > > >> > > >> >Cheers/2 > >> > > >> >Ed. > >> > > >> >Gregory Hicks wrote: > >> > > >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> >> Hash: SHA1 > >> >> > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> I am running JFS and encountered an odd operation. > >> >> > >> >> with the (partial) command line set to: > >> >> > >> >> IFS=.. JFS... /CACHE:32768 ...+E+F /F:2 > >> >> > >> >> the machine ran normally for about two weeks then tonight without > >> >> warning the machine booted up, went through the entire check and > >> >> goto loading the NIC driver and....... > >> >> > >> >> NOTHING.... black screen (no flashing cursor), > >> >> followed by the video BIOS message..... > >> >> and you guessed it... right through to loading the NIC.. ZAP back to rebooting... > >> >> > >> >> Brian Butler (thanks Brian) has seen this before and suggested > >> >> taking the '+' out of the JFS driver line in CONFIG.SYS. It worked > >> >> but we are none the wiser to the cause. > >> >> > >> >> Brian is using a much older version of OS/2 and this looks like a > >> >> resource or driver conflict happening. > >> >> > >> >> Anyone got any ideas? > >> >> > >> >> regards > >> >> > >> >> Greg > >> >> > >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> >> Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated > >> companies. > >> >> > >> >> iQA/AwUBPkhYuiRXBYWFz/DyEQJfhgCg43lt+eAC30rcpUPd5O2zzqJe6LQAnRUo > >> >> XTyrcpQv5zec/flCDwUOL4eZ > >> >> =Xcol > >> >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated > companies. > >> > >> iQA/AwUBPkly2iRXBYWFz/DyEQJSwACeIOzkituftztcrIb+y370d5y9IKYAoNep > >> gunk3GZ0jswM/pChmKogMZP0 > >> =FydR > >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. > > iQA/AwUBPkmL7yRXBYWFz/DyEQIq7QCgn8XOLygUsPaUE+WzYqBjqJd3fBwAn2uT > Fg4VjLap1RTIq7F8/NTrNpdn > =2Ocg > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 34 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:52 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: brianb at kdfisher dot com dot au Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem Ed, Hi. I have found the plus is needed on large volumes. I encountered a situation where the boot check replayed the log and pronounced the file system clean. Later when accessing files deep into a subdirectory tree I had strange errors. I added the plus and re-booted. This time it did a full check and found errors that it was able to fix. I have left the plus in ever since. I have encountered the same situation Greg has on a machine here but it is inconsistent. Two weeks ago I shut down all the servers and re-booted them with no problems. Last week I needed to shut them down again and when re-booting the BDC did the constant re-boot thing. It sees to fail when starting the WPS and does not leave anything in popuplog.os2. As Greg said it goes right back to the video BIOS message when it re-boots. I left it go and it repeated the cycle three times before I intervened by booting off drive D and removing the plus. Has anybody else seen this behaviour? ----------------------------------------- Brian Butler System Administrator brianb at kdfisher dot com dot au Ed Durrant cc: Subject: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem 12/02/2003 06:02 Please respond to os2genau The default setting for the JFS IFS is as follows: IFS=C:\OS2\JFS.IFS /AUTOCHECK:* The +driveletter is really for use on the HPFS IFS to force a full checkdisk on particular drives each time the system is booted. JFS works differently - it always runs it's "chkdsk" (ie it checks the transaction logs to see if a chkdsk is needed), so the + command is redundant. Cheers/2 Ed. Gregory Hicks wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > I am running JFS and encountered an odd operation. > > with the (partial) command line set to: > > IFS=.. JFS... /CACHE:32768 ...+E+F /F:2 > > the machine ran normally for about two weeks then tonight without > warning the machine booted up, went through the entire check and > goto loading the NIC driver and....... > > NOTHING.... black screen (no flashing cursor), > followed by the video BIOS message..... > and you guessed it... right through to loading the NIC.. ZAP back to rebooting... > > Brian Butler (thanks Brian) has seen this before and suggested > taking the '+' out of the JFS driver line in CONFIG.SYS. It worked > but we are none the wiser to the cause. > > Brian is using a much older version of OS/2 and this looks like a > resource or driver conflict happening. > > Anyone got any ideas? > > regards > > Greg > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. > > iQA/AwUBPkhYuiRXBYWFz/DyEQJfhgCg43lt+eAC30rcpUPd5O2zzqJe6LQAnRUo > XTyrcpQv5zec/flCDwUOL4eZ > =Xcol > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 35 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:54 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "John Angelico" Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] free OS/2 stuff to good homes On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:00:25 +1100, Michael Block wrote: >Hi Hi Michael >having made my transition from my beloved OS/2 running PCs to Mac OSX, Good luck and well done - hope you're not having to use too much MS-stuff there. >I have lots of OS/2 stuff that I'm happy to donate free to SIG members: >software, manuals etc - all someone needs to do is to come and pick it >up! >I do miss the WPS, but otherwise OS X is pretty good! So I hear. >if someone wants to bring the syuff along to a SIG meeting, just ring >me at home on 95273209 or email me. Since you mailed this to my sig-leader address I am copying it out to the list address. Anyone in Michael's direction (Langwarrin?) able to assist? >regards >Michael Block > >caca et declina medicus Could this mean "catch a falling doctor" or "here's a sleeping medico"? Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG talldad at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au -------------------------------------- PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... Improve mail delivery... mail the posties their pay in plain envelopes!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 36 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:52 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "Paul Smedley" Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Is the internet slow for anyone else today ? Hiya Glenn, On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 20:00:38 -0600, tsq at chariot dot net dot au wrote: >My download times here on chariot are in the bytes, not Kbytes ! >The ping results to my isp are 110/10238/30130 with a 6% packet loss. >I'm unable to even d/l their homepage to see if there's any news. Must be a Chariot specific problem - I'm getting 52 k/s on Internode ADSL at the moment. Chariot website loading fine for me.... >Upgraded mpts to 5.40 then 5.50 ( versions as reported by warpup ) >no change net still slow >computer gets slow then trap000e Install stack update if trap 000e was on the second ppp connection >Tell me this is happening to other people today !?! Sorry! Regards, Paul. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 37 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:52 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Is the internet slow for anyone else today ? I didn't see any performance problems today or yesterday. It could of course be a problem at your ISP - if the ping times you give are to the ISPs Internet gateway, then the problem is most likely at Chariot or at your local end. Try running a Trace route (tracerte) to a website and you should be able to see at which point the delays occur. Cheers/2 Ed. tsq at chariot dot net dot au wrote: > Hi guys, > > My download times here on chariot are in the bytes, not Kbytes ! > The ping results to my isp are 110/10238/30130 with a 6% packet loss. > I'm unable to even d/l their homepage to see if there's any news. > > Full story  > > Upgraded to driver fixpak 2 ... finally > everything's fine except net flow is very slow. > > Had a problem like this a couple of years ago and some replies > suggested an mpts upgrade, ok, > > Upgraded mpts to 5.40 then 5.50 ( versions as reported by warpup ) > no change net still slow > computer gets slow then trap000e > long format bootdrive install backup leaving me at fp12 ddfp1 mpts 5.30 > net still slow, 12 minutes & it still hasn't d/l'd the chariot homepage ! > now I'm gettin' ..... a tad upset ;-) > > Tell me this is happening to other people today !?! > Glenn. > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------- > tsq at chariot dot net dot au > OS/2 Users Group of South Australia > www. > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 38 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:53 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "John Angelico" Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Reg Headlines Thursday February 13 On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 03:57:42 +0000, update at list.theregister.co.uk wrote: Cross-posted to a number of OS/2 lists >Software > > Gates holds forth on the 'pervasive Linux' threat > And he's all over the shop, as usual... > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/29308.html Well worth reading to understand some of the Gates delusions and paranoia about OS/2. Sad about the belated analysis that these were what drove the anti-competitive behaviour of his company in relation to OS/2. It would have been a darn-sight more useful about 5 years ago! Uh, don't forget to chase down the links - the transcript indicates that he suffers from further delusions about the work done on computers in the early parts of *this* decade and their (pioneering?) effort to produce quality code! It's things like this that make you want to vote the death penalty back in. ;-) Pass this on to your Linux friends so they can watch out for the same anti-competitive tactics. Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG talldad at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au -------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 39 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:52 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "Mike O'Connor" Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Web page graphics Vm95dGVrIEV5bW9udCB3cm90ZToNCg0KPjxzbmlwcGVkPg0KPg0KPmhlbHAgZWF1dGlsDQo+ IA0KPiBBbGxvd3MgeW91IHRvIHNwbGl0IChzYXZlKSBleHRlbmRlZCBhdHRyaWJ1dGVzIGZy b20gYSBmaWxlIGFuZCB0aGVuIHJlam9pbiB0aGUgZXh0ZW5kZWQgYXR0cmlidXRlcyB0byB0 aGUgZmlsZS4gDQo+DQo+IEVBVVRJTCDExMQgZGF0YWZpbGUgxMTCxMTExMTExMTExMTEwsTE xMLExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTCxMTEEA0KPiAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgwMQgaG9s ZGZpbGUgxNkgICDDxCAvUyDEwsTExMTExMLEtA0KPiAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICCzICAgICAgwMQgL1IgxNkgsw0KPiAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICDAxCAvSiDEwsTExMTExMLE2Q0KPiAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgw8QgL08gxLQNCj4gICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgIMDEIC9NIMTZDQo+IBDE xMTExMTExMTEwsTExMTExMLExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTE xMS0DQo+ICAgICAgICAgICAgwMQgL1AgxNkNCj4gDQo+IA0KPiANCj4gDQo+IEFuIGV4dGVu ZGVkIGF0dHJpYnV0ZSBpcyBhIG1lY2hhbmlzbSB0aGF0IGFsbG93cyBhbiBhcHBsaWNhdGlv biB0byBhdHRhY2ggaW5mb3JtYXRpb24gdG8gYSBmaWxlIA0KPg0KSGkgVm95dGVrLA0KSSBu b3RpY2UgdGhhdCB5b3Ugc2VudCB0aGUgb3JpZ2luYWwgbWVzc2FnZSB3aXRoIFBSTSAtIGlu IE1vemlsbGEgDQoxLjAuMVtJQk0gV0IgVjJdIGhlcmUgaXQgY2FtZSBvdXQgdW5pbnRlbGxp Z2libGUgd2l0aCBhIHdob2xlIGJ1bmNoIG9mIA0KYWNjZW50ZWQgY2FwaXRhbCAiQSdzIiBh bmQgc29tZSBhY2NlbnRlZCBjYXBpdGFsICJVJ3MiLg0KDQotLSANClJlZ2FyZHMsDQpNaWtl DQoNCg0KRmFpbGVkIHRoZSBleGFtIGZvcg0KLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0NCk1DU0Ug LSBNaW5lc3dlZXBlciBDb25zdWx0YW50IGFuZCBTb2xpdGFpcmUgRXhwZXJ0DQotLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLQ0KDQoNCltJU1AgYmxvY2tzICouZXhlIGF0dGFjaG1lbnRzXQ0KW1Bs ZWFzZSB1c2UgemlwcGVkIHZlcnNpb25zIG9mIGFib3ZlXQ0KDQoNCg0KDQo= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 40 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:53 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem Hi Greg >Its interesting to note we have slipped on one item in this thread... Not really, just didnt mention it :-) >how come the machine reboots just after the nic and well and truely before the PM (and not little johnny) >is brought up? Its a combination of the + in your command line, and the PM will possibly be unstable on a fall over or reboot, as it records what files are being deleted, and these were not closed when the PC fell over. If you did it several times it may have jagged it and come up cleanly. Its more complecated than that but I'm losing steam, this new job I have at iPrimus is taking its toll today. Cheers Ian B Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ Windows: The CP/M of the future! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 41 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:54 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "Alan Heiser" Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Wiping HD's Pillar Soft have a module in the Pillar Soft suite which does the job Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gavin Miller" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:04 PM Subject: [os2genau] Wiping HD's > Hi all, > > Anyone know how to completely wipe a hd clean with no possability of recovery; to > have a like new hd as it were. > > Cheers > G > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 42 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:55 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: "Daryl Pilkington" Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Web page graphics Hi Ian, I'd be blowed, now what is the best way to do this? Open up DOS box & copy the file, which will destroy the EAs. On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 21:08:55 +1100 (EDT), Ian Manners wrote: >Hi Ed > >>I'm having problems when I use Netscape composer to create web pages >>with JPG pictures. > >Remove the extended attributes from the jpg's. > Regards, Daryl Pilkington //// The PC-Therapist, Business Computing Integration O OS/2 Warp, Redhat Linux, DB2 IBM Certified Systems Expert email: darylp at pc-therapist dot com dot au Mob: 0425-251-300 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 43 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:46:52 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 From: brianb at kdfisher dot com dot au Subject: Test-List: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem Ed, Hi. I have found the plus is needed on large volumes. I encountered a situation where the boot check replayed the log and pronounced the file system clean. Later when accessing files deep into a subdirectory tree I had strange errors. I added the plus and re-booted. This time it did a full check and found errors that it was able to fix. I have left the plus in ever since. I have encountered the same situation Greg has on a machine here but it is inconsistent. Two weeks ago I shut down all the servers and re-booted them with no problems. Last week I needed to shut them down again and when re-booting the BDC did the constant re-boot thing. It sees to fail when starting the WPS and does not leave anything in popuplog.os2. As Greg said it goes right back to the video BIOS message when it re-boots. I left it go and it repeated the cycle three times before I intervened by booting off drive D and removing the plus. Has anybody else seen this behaviour? ----------------------------------------- Brian Butler System Administrator brianb at kdfisher dot com dot au Ed Durrant cc: Subject: Re: [os2genau] Interesting Problem 12/02/2003 06:02 Please respond to os2genau The default setting for the JFS IFS is as follows: IFS=C:\OS2\JFS.IFS /AUTOCHECK:* The +driveletter is really for use on the HPFS IFS to force a full checkdisk on particular drives each time the system is booted. JFS works differently - it always runs it's "chkdsk" (ie it checks the transaction logs to see if a chkdsk is needed), so the + command is redundant. Cheers/2 Ed. Gregory Hicks wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > I am running JFS and encountered an odd operation. > > with the (partial) command line set to: > > IFS=.. JFS... /CACHE:32768 ...+E+F /F:2 > > the machine ran normally for about two weeks then tonight without > warning the machine booted up, went through the entire check and > goto loading the NIC driver and....... > > NOTHING.... black screen (no flashing cursor), > followed by the video BIOS message..... > and you guessed it... right through to loading the NIC.. ZAP back to rebooting... > > Brian Butler (thanks Brian) has seen this before and suggested > taking the '+' out of the JFS driver line in CONFIG.SYS. It worked > but we are none the wiser to the cause. > > Brian is using a much older version of OS/2 and this looks like a > resource or driver conflict happening. > > Anyone got any ideas? > > regards > > Greg > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. > > iQA/AwUBPkhYuiRXBYWFz/DyEQJfhgCg43lt+eAC30rcpUPd5O2zzqJe6LQAnRUo > XTyrcpQv5zec/flCDwUOL4eZ > =Xcol > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------