From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 00:02:02 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 566 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Friday 14 March 2003 Number 566 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: [os2genau] VPC from MS Re: Microsoft for Partners Newsletter - 12th March, 2003 : Ed Durrant 2 [os2genau] Better e-mail client : Ed Durrant 3 Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client : Mike O'Connor" 4 Re: [os2genau] Starbase and Read only files??? : Gavin Miller" 5 Re: [os2genau] Innotek still Independant : Mike O'Connor" 6 [os2genau] getting rid of locale, how ? Re: [os2genau] loading StG 'cant verify certificate' : Voytek Eymont 7 Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client : David Forrester" 8 Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client : Ed Durrant 9 Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client : Voytek Eymont **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 07:28:07 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] VPC from MS Re: Microsoft for Partners Newsletter - 12th March, 2003 Hi Kris, My point, was that it seems M$ consider VPC/2 so unimportant that they don't even mention it. I like you believe that VPC/2 will dissapear, there is no financial reason for M$ to keep it going. Ed. Kris Steenhaut wrote: > Ed Durrant schreef: > > > According to a (FAQ) link from the page Ian has posted - ie at > > > > http://www.microsoft dot com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/faqs/virtualizationfaq.mspx > > > > Microsoft purchased Virtual Server, Virtual PC for Windows and Virtual PC for MAC - there is no mention of them purchasing Virtual PC for OS/2. > > > > What can we read into this ??? > > > > Dear Ed, you really should do better: > > http://www.connectix dot com/about/acquisition_win.html > > Whithin 6 months there will be no VPC for OS/2 anymore, and probably much sooner. > > M$ and M$ business is about lying and lying and lying and ... > > -- > Groeten uit Gent, > > Kris > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 07:31:54 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: [os2genau] Better e-mail client Does anyone know of an e-mail client that can group e-mails in the inbox, so that all with the same title are together and the most recent one is first ?? I have a habit of replying to an e-mail from this and other lists, only to find 20 or 30 emails later someone has already said what I said - ie the question has been answered. I know even Netscrape e-mail (that I use) has filtering but I can't see any way that it can give the result that I want. Does anyone know of a better (os2) product that can do this ?? Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 06:45:22 +1000 From: "Mike O'Connor" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client Ed Durrant wrote: >Does anyone know of an e-mail client that can group e-mails in the >inbox, so that all with the same title are together and the most recent >one is first ?? > >I have a habit of replying to an e-mail from this and other lists, only >to find 20 or 30 emails later someone has already said what I said - ie >the question has been answered. > >I know even Netscrape e-mail (that I use) has filtering but I can't see >any way that it can give the result that I want. > >Does anyone know of a better (os2) product that can do this ?? > > > Hi Ed, In Netscape 4.61/Mozilla/IBMWBVx Click on the header (subject) to sort all mail by subject - then click again there to reverse sort by date-time. HTH -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:50:00 +1000 (EST) From: "Gavin Miller" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Starbase and Read only files??? Zip Database: Yep I can do this. Will have to create a new form though me thinks; seeing as this one won't work, I imagine if I zipped it with the rest of the database the problem will still be there. I did just copy the files onto cd. Soltek: I'm getting costings to update a friends computer and I'm please with the soltek design and features (purple is cool too :-) ) I may just get one myself. What were the issues with OS/2?. Daryl says the board works well with OS/2 but there are a few minor things. Cheers G ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:39:40 +1000 From: "Mike O'Connor" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Innotek still Independant Kris Steenhaut wrote: >Ed Durrant schreef: > >>Following Kris's comments that he thought Innotek had been sold to >>Microsoft, >> >> >I did say Innotek is an empty box. > >>I decided to ask Oliver Stein - Director of Innotek Systems straight out >>- here is >>his reply: >> >>>no worries, everything will continue the way it is... >>> >>>InnoTek is still a privately owned company! >>> >>>What web forum are you referring to? >>> > >Boy, this is disgusting. > >Does he say VPC for OS/2 will be continued? Does he say There will be a version 6 of >Flash for OS2? > >>everything will continue the way it is... >> >Just means everything is moving to M$ the way is was planned. > >You better had ask him about the meaning of this at the *INNOTEK* site: > >>People migrating away from legacy OS/2 are the principle users of the >>Connectix Windows client product. Microsoft is fully committed to carrying >>that effort forward and to helping those sun-setting OS/2 in 2006 migrate >>over to XP." >> Roy McDonald, CEO, Connectix Corp. >> >So, what does he really mean when saying "continuing the way ways it is"? Rather >obvious , isn't it, as all the programmers but one have moved to M$. The but one is >Markus Minkowsky, who has his own firm now. > >BTW: We've met Mr Stein at WarpStock Arnhem, where he had been fooling us for 3 days. > >Disgusting! > > > Hi Kris, Following is a quick response from Markus Montkowski [mmontkowski at gmx.de] to above. ---------------- begin inserted message --------------- > So, what does he really mean when saying "continuing the way ways it is"? Rather > obvious , isn't it, as all the programmers but one have moved to M$. The but one is > Markus Minkowsky, who has his own firm now. > Hmm I didn't know that I have my own company interesting. Just proves he doesn't know anything he is talking about as usual. Yes, you can post that to the list if you want! Markus ---------------- end inserted message --------------- -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 15:10:49 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: [os2genau] getting rid of locale, how ? Re: [os2genau] loading StG 'cant verify certificate' ** Reply to note from "Mike O'Connor" Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:02:14 +1000 > I'd reckon it sure does. Set locale to en_AU and config.sys to 437,850 > or 850,437 codepages, no matter which Java versions you're using in OS/2! > HTH I've made an 'au' locale, and, deleted the pl_pl locale, asigned the 'au' to default, & created the java locale, all to no avail: the java messages still come in polish, and, the polish 'pl_pl' locale recreates itself in CountryPallete/locale object. somehow, Mesa has accepted this, and now works with 'correct' decimal point, but, Java still keeps polish settings. any idea how to revert Java's locale ? Voytek Eymont ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:18:17 +1100 (EDT) From: "David Forrester" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 07:31:54 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: >Does anyone know of an e-mail client that can group e-mails in the >inbox, so that all with the same title are together and the most recent >one is first ?? > >I have a habit of replying to an e-mail from this and other lists, only >to find 20 or 30 emails later someone has already said what I said - ie >the question has been answered. > >I know even Netscrape e-mail (that I use) has filtering but I can't see >any way that it can give the result that I want. > >Does anyone know of a better (os2) product that can do this ?? > As far as I've seen, all mail clients have a "sort by subject" option. This will give you some of what you want. But, it might not put the newest first. PMMail definitely does this, and will attempt to ignore the "re:" in the subject when sorting. One of the few advantages of the Windows version of PMMail is that you can sort the mail by clicking on the column headings. Netscape, and I assume Mozilla extends this to do threading (like in their newsreaders). I can't remember the option to do it, as it's been a few years since I used Netscape for mail. But, it was either clicking on the leftmost column, or done from an option on a menu. For this to work, it assumes that people have replied to the original e-mail, the message id is used for threading rather than the subject. If I remember rightly, the mailer that Polarbar was based on (it's name completely escapes me) did threading. I assume that Polarbar does it as well. I haven't looked a MR/2 Ice for a while, so I don't know what it does. -- David Forrester davidfor at internode.on dot net http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:20:38 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client Thanks David, Yes, I think it's "threading" using the message ID is what I need as sorting emails that sometimes have re:re:RE:re:Subject-text doesn't always work as one would hope. Cheers/2 Ed. David Forrester wrote: > On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 07:31:54 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: > > >Does anyone know of an e-mail client that can group e-mails in the > >inbox, so that all with the same title are together and the most recent > >one is first ?? > > > >I have a habit of replying to an e-mail from this and other lists, only > >to find 20 or 30 emails later someone has already said what I said - ie > >the question has been answered. > > > >I know even Netscrape e-mail (that I use) has filtering but I can't see > >any way that it can give the result that I want. > > > >Does anyone know of a better (os2) product that can do this ?? > > > > As far as I've seen, all mail clients have a "sort by subject" option. > This will give you some of what you want. But, it might not put the > newest first. PMMail definitely does this, and will attempt to ignore > the "re:" in the subject when sorting. One of the few advantages of > the Windows version of PMMail is that you can sort the mail by clicking > on the column headings. > > Netscape, and I assume Mozilla extends this to do threading (like in > their newsreaders). I can't remember the option to do it, as it's been > a few years since I used Netscape for mail. But, it was either > clicking on the leftmost column, or done from an option on a menu. For > this to work, it assumes that people have replied to the original > e-mail, the message id is used for threading rather than the subject. > > If I remember rightly, the mailer that Polarbar was based on (it's name > completely escapes me) did threading. I assume that Polarbar does it > as well. I haven't looked a MR/2 Ice for a while, so I don't know what > it does. > > -- > David Forrester > davidfor at internode.on dot net > http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:47:54 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client ** Reply to note from "David Forrester" Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:18:17 +1100 (EDT) > the mailer that Polarbar was based on (it's name > completely escapes me) JStreet Voytek Eymont ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------