From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:02:03 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 572 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Thursday 20 March 2003 Number 572 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 [os2genau] New toy -Best thing since sliced bread.! : Robert Traynor (BobT)" 2 Re: [os2genau] New toy -Best thing since sliced bread.! : Robert Traynor (BobT)" 3 Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client : Michael Barrow" 4 Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client : Ed Durrant 5 Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client : Paul Smedley" 6 Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client : Ed Durrant 7 Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client : Paul Smedley" 8 Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client : Voytek Eymont 9 [os2genau] Polarbar : Michael Barrow" 10 Re: [os2genau] Polarbar : Voytek Eymont **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:14:15 +1000 From: "Robert Traynor (BobT)" Subject: [os2genau] New toy -Best thing since sliced bread.! Hi All, I have a mixture of IDE and Ultr160 and scsi 2 system. Win98se, WinXP and Os/2 and eCS. I ordered from Harris Technologies last week a new toy for the computer. I was helping a friend with his computer yesterday and I got him to drop me off at Office Works to pick it up afterwards. (still no car - hope to pick it up tomorrow). Harris Technology have an outlet in the Oakleigh Office Works store. I ordered the adapter and as part of the on-line shopping, chose to "pickup from store" and pay on pickup. No CREDIT CARD required.! I did have to register prior to placing the order, which took a day or so. It is a IDE to SCSI to IDE. $99.00 Australian. Some info here:- http://www.ht dot com dot au/Scripts/xworks.exe?PART:E0697 I have all 4 possible IDE devices running in my system. 2 hard drives and 1 Pioneer DVD reader and 1 LG CDRW burner. The old tray mounted Zip drive (which could be swapped with a LS-120 drive) had to be disconnected when the DVD went in, as there was no available IDE connection. The adapter means that the removable tray is now connected to the low speed scsi 50 pin cable and works as normal. Windows 98 and XP and OS/2 all think it is a genuine scsi drive. The Zip drive appears to work as normal but the LS-120 is a fraction slower. Of course, to change the ZIP drive for the LS-120 I have to power off, replace the tray and reboot. And vice versa. Apparently just about anything IDE can be accessed as scsi with this adapter. There is a caveat in the instructions to do with CDRW drives though. Apparently some software burning packages may have problems. So they advise not to fit IDE CDRW's to the adapter unless desperate. I presume DVD burner drives would also have problems. (Don't have one yet.) Harris Technologies was the only store I could find in Australia that would even take the order, let alone get one in for me. Very readily available in the USA but at double the price as compared to the one I got here, strangely enough. Most I located in USA wanted from US$ 120 and up. Regards to All, Robert Traynor (BobT). 20 March 2003 18:03 ,-._|\ Robert Traynor (BobT) / Oz \ email rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au \_,--.x/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:18:19 +1000 From: "Robert Traynor (BobT)" Subject: Re: [os2genau] New toy -Best thing since sliced bread.! Oh Damn, I meant It is a "SCSI to IDE" CARD. $99.00 Australian Excuse. Robert Traynor (BobT). 20 March 2003 18:18 On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:14:15 +1000, Robert Traynor (BobT) wrote: > It is a IDE to SCSI to IDE. $99.00 Australian ,-._|\ Robert Traynor (BobT) / Oz \ email rtraynor at optusnet dot com dot au \_,--.x/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 21:44:14 +1100 From: "Michael Barrow" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client ** Reply to message from Ed Durrant on Fri, 14 Mar 2003 07:31:54 +1100 Ed / Daryl, Polarbar has all those functions. However I have to tell you to read the manual 'cos I don't use them. I am however bias as Polarbar is the best email client bar none and what sets it apart is the great help from the volunteers that develop and support it. Truely a better group you couldn't find. Regards, Michael P.S. Composed with Polarbar 1.24c, Java 1.18 and OS/2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:44:09 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client So where do I get Polar Bear from / is it on Hobbes ?? Ed. Michael Barrow wrote: > ** Reply to message from Ed Durrant on Fri, 14 Mar > 2003 07:31:54 +1100 > Ed / Daryl, > Polarbar has all those functions. > However I have to tell you to read the manual 'cos I don't use them. > I am however bias as Polarbar is the best email client bar none and what sets > it apart is the great help from the volunteers that develop and support it. > Truely a better group you couldn't find. > > Regards, > Michael > > P.S. Composed with Polarbar 1.24c, Java 1.18 and OS/2 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:17:45 +1050 (CDT) From: "Paul Smedley" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:44:09 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: >So where do I get Polar Bear from / is it on Hobbes ?? www.polarbar dot org Rgds, Paul. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:57:49 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client Got it thanks. Looking at some of the files in it, is it based on JStreet mailer ?? Ed. Paul Smedley wrote: > On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:44:09 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: > > >So where do I get Polar Bear from / is it on Hobbes ?? > > www.polarbar dot org > > Rgds, > > Paul. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:31:59 +1050 (CDT) From: "Paul Smedley" Subject: Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:57:49 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: >Got it thanks. > > Looking at some of the files in it, is it based on JStreet mailer ?? Yep - after Innoval dropped, they released the source code and it evovled into Polarbar Rgds, Paul. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 22:29:41 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: [os2genau] Better e-mail client ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:57:49 +1100 > Looking at some of the files in it, is it based on JStreet mailer ?? yep. About Polarbar Who we are: The Polarbar Mailer is a volunteer-based project team located around the world. It is a 100% pure Java application, originally designed and created by a company named Innoval. When Innoval decided to give up development of the original product (then known as J Street Mailer), there was still a core group of 10 or 12 users who monitored the mailing list. Two of those users were Paul van Keep and Mike Bowler who decided to take on the task of continuing the development effort. Innoval gave them permission and that began the Polarbar organization. Origin of the name: Back in the dark ages, when Microsoft was small and IBM thought OS/2 was the future an executive from Prime quit his job and decided to start a software developer conference focussed on OS/2. This became the ColoradOS/2 conference held for the first year in January 1993. The second conference, in November of that same year, and every conference after that, was unofficially concluded by having a Friday afternoon party in the hot tub with lots of good malt. This hot tub happening came to be known as the Polarbar club. Paul van Keep and Mike Bowler knew each other from that conference and so Mike thought it would be appropriate to take Polarbar as the name for the mailer. That is how Polarbar came to be known as Polarbar. Voytek Eymont ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:02:35 +1100 From: "Michael Barrow" Subject: [os2genau] Polarbar Greetings all, Yes Polarbar originated from JStreet Mailer. Back when I used Post Road Mailer (OS/2 native from Innoval) I started having problems with large attachments. The options from Innoval were go up one version of PRM or go to the way of the future a java mailer. So I took the java approach. It was beta but I was brave back then. Oops. On my 300 MHz K6 with 128 Meg of RAM it ran like a dog. Some time down the track and many beta releases later I loaded Daniella's fix for OS/2 to see all the RAM. Suddenly JStreet actually ran almost reasonable. Then Innoval dropped it like a hot rock. I was sitting in limbo until Paul Van Keep and the team came along. The work they have done is nothing short of a miracle. Support is the best I've had from anyone for anything. They are always willing to listen to suggestions for new versions and they never get tired of answering the same questions over and over. Quite simply I'm sold on it. When I demo'ed Polarbar to the MelbPC SIG some 18 months to 2 years ago several people asked me very probing questions about functions that their favorite mailer had. I didn't know if they were there as I hadn't needed them but I was glad to find that everything that was requested was there. It's come along way from there. For those who cop a lot of spam then you should go to the www.polarbar dot org site and follow the links to the sites about Baysian Filtering which Polarbar now has. This spam filter uses probability on the subjects and contents of emails to weed out the duds. The testimonies of those who use this are stunning. So I guess I've rabbited on enough now so I'll leave with www.polarbar dot org Best Wishes to all. Regards, Michael ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:04:10 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: [os2genau] Polarbar ** Reply to note from "Michael Barrow" Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:02:35 +1100 > Some time down the track and many beta releases later I loaded Daniella's fix > for OS/2 to see all the RAM. what's D RAM fix, and, how do you tell you need it ..? Voytek Eymont ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------