From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 00:04:04 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 621 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Monday 19 May 2003 Number 621 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: eCS install questions : Mike O'Connor" 2 FP15 and Dialog Boxes : Gavin Miller" 3 Re: FP15 and Dialog Boxes : Mike O'Connor" 4 Re: FP15 and Dialog Boxes : Gavin Miller" 5 Re: eCS install questions : Ian Manners" 6 Re: FP15 and Dialog Boxes : Ian Manners" 7 Re: FP15 and Dialog Boxes : Gavin Miller" 8 OS/2 Pre-installed on X-Series server. : Ed Durrant 9 Re: FP15 and Dialog Boxes : Robert Traynor (BobT)" 10 Re: FP15 and Dialog Boxes : David Forrester" 11 Re: FP15 and Dialog Boxes : Voytek Eymont 12 Re: OS/2 Pre-installed on X-Series server. : 13 Re: OS/2 Pre-installed on X-Series server. : Ed Durrant **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 06:47:19 +1100 From: "Mike O'Connor" Subject: Re: eCS install questions Ian Manners wrote: >>P133 ?? I still use 486SL 66 s; >> >> > >All my servers are old IBM Valuepoint 486's with warp4, and between >32 and 64Mb RAM except my main webserver. > >If it aint broke...... :-) > >The only thing I need a PIII or higher, or a PowerPC for is Mozilla and Staroffice. > >Cheers >Ian B Manners >http://www.os2site dot com/ > >Bug-free environment; please do not use Windows. > > > > > Hi Ian, Do you have a version of OS/2 for PowerPC running?!!! Regards, Mike p.s. BTW Loving my new eCS 1.1 (minor glitches only on 11 minute install of Entry). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 07:54:11 +1000 (EST) From: "Gavin Miller" Subject: FP15 and Dialog Boxes Hi all, What is it with FP 15 that would mess up dialog boxes in a few programs. The Important programs in question are Colorworks V2 patched and another program (not important though) is Links for OS/2. The symptoms are missing parts of the dialog boxes, and in the case of Colorworks, half the image is black when zoomed or minimized to the Colorworks desktop. Originally I thought that it was SDD that was the culpret, however after reverting back to an old SDD that I know did not have this problem (ie before fp15 update) to find the problem was still there, I now know it is FP15. I do have the SET ENH_STRETCH=NO line in config.sys to stop washed out icons. Any ideas? Cheers G ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 08:13:15 +1100 From: "Mike O'Connor" Subject: Re: FP15 and Dialog Boxes Gavin Miller wrote: >Hi all, > >What is it with FP 15 that would mess up dialog boxes in a few programs. The >Important programs in question are Colorworks V2 patched and another program (not >important though) is Links for OS/2. > >The symptoms are missing parts of the dialog boxes, and in the case of Colorworks, >half the image is black when zoomed or minimized to the Colorworks desktop. > >Originally I thought that it was SDD that was the culpret, however after reverting back to >an old SDD that I know did not have this problem (ie before fp15 update) to find the >problem was still there, I now know it is FP15. > >I do have the SET ENH_STRETCH=NO line in config.sys to stop washed out icons. >Any ideas? > > Hi Gavin, I can't offer much except to say that I run Colorworks V2 with FP15/16/MCPx/eCS 1.0 and very shortly under 1.1, only base installation CD#1 implemented so far, on this machine with NO problems at all. What was that patch you were referring to - the only thing I updated on mine was to get the "Lesson 8" from 9th March 1996 from Ian's os2site dot com, was there something else? Regards, Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 08:29:06 +1000 (EST) From: "Gavin Miller" Subject: Re: FP15 and Dialog Boxes Hi Mike, There are two patches. One was from SPG before they stopped OS/2 support, and it's for fixing the information bar at the bottom of each canvas in Warp4. The other, and the one I was refering to, is for SDD drivers and Colorworks crashing when using gradients or stacked previews. The problem now is the Right hand side of canvases not being drawn if scaled to less than 100%. If Mr. Administrator would allow, I could post a screen shot to show what I'm talking about. BTW my Warp4 revision number is 14.062, which I'm pretty sure is FP15. After a quick search on google I found that colorworks has had this problem since FP13. You say you don't have this proplem on your FP15 system? That's interesting. Cheers G ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 12:52:08 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: eCS install questions Hi Mike > Do you have a version of OS/2 for PowerPC running?!!! Not anymore, the kernal is to dated. I use AIX on the RS/6000 and OSX on the G4, both PowerPC's Cheers Ian B Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ It makes sense to fine-tune the version of NT running on your system today, turn it off. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 12:58:16 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: FP15 and Dialog Boxes Hi Gavin > The symptoms are missing parts of the dialog boxes, and in the case of Colorworks, > half the image is black when zoomed or minimized to the Colorworks desktop. If memory serves, FP13, 14, and 15 had some minor problems with PMMERGE.DLL which was fixed in subsequent verions of that file, I had a similar problem around that time, and a testcase version fixed the problem. Try pmmerge0927.zip in http://www.os2site dot com/sw/upgrades/patches/ only if the filedate is more recent than the one on your PMMERGE.DLL. As always BACKUP before replacing ! Description :- IBM TestCase PMMerge file. Fixes up a few minor problems with fonts and displaying, apparently also fixes system freeze opening/closing NS 4.61 x times. Cheers Ian B Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ If you said what you thought, you'd be speechless. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 17:12:42 +1000 (EST) From: "Gavin Miller" Subject: Re: FP15 and Dialog Boxes Can't seem to get it Ian. The new pmmerge.dll extracts as a data file and will not change to an executable no matter what I do. I have renamed the old file pmmerge.bak but still holds it's exectutable flag. The problem with dialog boxes and colorworks remains, which leads me to think that the new dll is not executing and the one renamed to .bak, is. I didn't think that was possible but.... unless there is a nice way to replace these things that I don't know about. Any instructions? Cheers G On Mon, 19 May 2003 12:58:16 +1000 (EST), Ian Manners wrote: >Hi Gavin > >> The symptoms are missing parts of the dialog boxes, and in the case of Colorworks, >> half the image is black when zoomed or minimized to the Colorworks desktop. > >If memory serves, FP13, 14, and 15 had some minor problems with >PMMERGE.DLL which was fixed in subsequent verions of that file, >I had a similar problem around that time, and a testcase version >fixed the problem. > >Try pmmerge0927.zip in http://www.os2site dot com/sw/upgrades/patches/ >only if the filedate is more recent than the one on your PMMERGE.DLL. >As always BACKUP before replacing ! > >Description :- IBM TestCase PMMerge file. Fixes up a few minor > problems with fonts and displaying, apparently also > fixes system freeze opening/closing NS 4.61 x times. > >Cheers >Ian B Manners >http://www.os2site dot com/ > >If you said what you thought, you'd be speechless. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 20:00:29 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: OS/2 Pre-installed on X-Series server. I just found a new IBM X-series server today, that was delivered, pre-installed with OS/2 Warp and Communications Server/2. The server is considered a communications device rather than a "normal" Intel based server, however that's exactly what it was. if an IBM customer required a mainframe communications controller, where they previously have been sold a 3274 or 3174 type controller, they now will receive an X-series box with OS/2 running CS/2 ! (I guess at some point this'll change to being Linux, but at the moment OS/2 is still the choice for "mission critical" systems it seems). Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 20:52:12 +1000 From: "Robert Traynor (BobT)" Subject: Re: FP15 and Dialog Boxes Gavin, For this sort of nuts and bolts thing, don't use the GUI interface. The GUI is for day to day stuff only. Either use the commandline or use File Commander/2 for os/2. Using the gui can result in the REAL name being unchanged but the name YOU SEE (longname) is all that has changed. Regards, BobT. On Mon, 19 May 2003 17:12:42 +1000 (EST), Gavin Miller wrote: > Can't seem to get it Ian. The new pmmerge.dll extracts as a data file and will not > change to an executable no matter what I do. I have renamed the old file > pmmerge.bak but still holds it's exectutable flag. The problem with dialog boxes and > colorworks remains, which leads me to think that the new dll is not executing and the > one renamed to .bak, is. I didn't think that was possible but.... unless there is a nice way > to replace these things that I don't know about. Any instructions? > > Cheers > G > > On Mon, 19 May 2003 12:58:16 +1000 (EST), Ian Manners wrote: > > >Hi Gavin > > > >> The symptoms are missing parts of the dialog boxes, and in the case of > Colorworks, > >> half the image is black when zoomed or minimized to the Colorworks desktop. > > > >If memory serves, FP13, 14, and 15 had some minor problems with > >PMMERGE.DLL which was fixed in subsequent verions of that file, > >I had a similar problem around that time, and a testcase version > >fixed the problem. > > > >Try pmmerge0927.zip in http://www.os2site dot com/sw/upgrades/patches/ > >only if the filedate is more recent than the one on your PMMERGE.DLL. > >As always BACKUP before replacing ! > > > >Description :- IBM TestCase PMMerge file. Fixes up a few minor > > problems with fonts and displaying, apparently also > > fixes system freeze opening/closing NS 4.61 x times. > > > >Cheers > >Ian B Manners > >http://www.os2site dot com/ ,-._|\ Robert Traynor (BobT) / Oz \ email rtraynor at removeme.optusnet dot com dot au \_,--.x/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 21:01:12 +1000 (EST) From: "David Forrester" Subject: Re: FP15 and Dialog Boxes On Mon, 19 May 2003 17:12:42 +1000 (EST), Gavin Miller wrote: >Can't seem to get it Ian. The new pmmerge.dll extracts as a data file and will not >change to an executable no matter what I do. I have renamed the old file >pmmerge.bak but still holds it's exectutable flag. The problem with dialog boxes and >colorworks remains, which leads me to think that the new dll is not executing and the >one renamed to .bak, is. I didn't think that was possible but.... unless there is a nice way >to replace these things that I don't know about. Any instructions? As it's a DLL, you never execute it directly. Other programs find it, load it, and execute parts of it. Just replace the old one with the new one, and reboot. Though, you may have to unlock the existing DLL, or do this after booting from the command line. But, I don't really think this is the problem. SDD has three extra CONFIG.SYS lines you can add. Mine are: SET SDDFONTSIZE=SMALL - SMALL, MEDIUM or LARGE SET SDDFONTDPI=96 - 96 or 120 SET SDDICONS=SMALL - SMALL or LARGE The defaults are based on the resolution, and, I think for 1024*768 or higher, it is LARGE, 120 and LARGE. I find the settings I have make dialogs and icons look better on my laptop at that resolution. -- David Forrester davidfor at internode.on dot net http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 22:11:18 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: FP15 and Dialog Boxes ** Reply to note from "David Forrester" Mon, 19 May 2003 21:01:12 +1000 (EST) > As it's a DLL, you never execute it directly. Other programs find it, > load it, and execute parts of it. Just replace the old one with the > new one, and reboot. Though, you may have to unlock the existing DLL, > or do this after booting from the command line. repmod will help with that (Unlocking): [-D:\]repmod repmod (c)1995,1996 Secant Technologies Not for resale, feel free to redistribute with acknowledgement. Visit us at http://www.secant dot com Usage: repmod oldmodule [newmodule] [backupmodule] This program releases modules that are currently running and cannot be written to or deleted. - With 1 parameter, repmod releases oldmodule so it may be written to. - With 2 parameters, repmod releases oldmodule and replaces it with newmodule. - With 3 parameters, repmod releases oldmodule, replaces it with newmodule and saves oldmodule as backupmodule though, you'll still need to reboot to start using the new dll Voytek Eymont ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 22:06:47 +0930 From: Subject: Re: OS/2 Pre-installed on X-Series server. HI Ed well we have had an IBM 220X server running our file and print server with Warp Server (for e business )for almost three years! runs a treat and no hiccups for months! On Mon, 19 May 2003 20:00:29 +1000, edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au wrote: >I just found a new IBM X-series server today, that was delivered, >pre-installed with OS/2 Warp and Communications Server/2. The server is >considered a communications device rather than a "normal" Intel based >server, however that's exactly what it was. > >if an IBM customer required a mainframe communications controller, where >they previously have been sold a 3274 or 3174 type controller, they now >will receive an X-series box with OS/2 running CS/2 ! (I guess at some >point this'll change to being Linux, but at the moment OS/2 is still the >choice for "mission critical" systems it seems). > >Cheers/2 > >Ed. > > > > Graham Norton ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 23:08:35 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: OS/2 Pre-installed on X-Series server. But it didn't come "pre-installed" with OS/2 did it ? That's my point. Ed. gn at smart-road dot com dot au wrote: > HI Ed > > well we have had an IBM 220X server running our file and print server with Warp Server (for e business )for almost three years! > > runs a treat and no hiccups for months! > > On Mon, 19 May 2003 20:00:29 +1000, edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au wrote: > > >I just found a new IBM X-series server today, that was delivered, > >pre-installed with OS/2 Warp and Communications Server/2. The server is > >considered a communications device rather than a "normal" Intel based > >server, however that's exactly what it was. > > > >if an IBM customer required a mainframe communications controller, where > >they previously have been sold a 3274 or 3174 type controller, they now > >will receive an X-series box with OS/2 running CS/2 ! (I guess at some > >point this'll change to being Linux, but at the moment OS/2 is still the > >choice for "mission critical" systems it seems). > > > >Cheers/2 > > > >Ed. > > > > > > > > > > Graham Norton > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------