From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 00:04:04 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 624 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Thursday 22 May 2003 Number 624 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: eCS install questions : Mike O'Connor" 2 Re: Old Pc's (was eCS install questions) : Mike O'Connor" 3 Re: FP15 and Dialog Boxes : Mike O'Connor" 4 OS/2 Java Corner updated! : Roger Troost" 5 OS/2 Java Corner updated! : Roger Troost" 6 OS/2 Java Corner updated! : Roger Troost" 7 OS/2 Java Corner updated! : Roger Troost" 8 Re: Old Pc's (was eCS install questions) : John Angelico" 9 Re: Old Pc's (was eCS install questions) : Mike O'Connor" 10 * Reminder * - Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting : List Admin" 11 Melbourne PC OS/2 SIG Meeting 27th May : John Angelico" 12 OS/2UGSA May Meeting : Leigh Bunting **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 01:24:07 +1100 From: "Mike O'Connor" Subject: Re: eCS install questions Ian Manners wrote: >Hi Mike > >>Do you have a version of OS/2 for PowerPC running?!!! >> >> >Not anymore, the kernal is to dated. I use AIX on the RS/6000 >and OSX on the G4, both PowerPC's > > Hi Ian, Sorry for the delay in acknowledging. Unfortunately the machine I am using as my gateway via NAT encountered the HPFSMINI trap problem, and I've only now managed to fix it back up again the long way without reinstalling eCS 1.1 entry. Learnt a few things about the new OS version that way. Yes, I'd forgotten that the RS/6000 was PPC-powered. Did they ever get a version of StarOffice for the Mac developed, or does it use the Linux version? -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 02:00:28 +1100 From: "Mike O'Connor" Subject: Re: Old Pc's (was eCS install questions) Leigh Bunting wrote: >Voytek Eymont wrote: > >>I still use 486SL 66 s; >>----- >>it still works just as well as the day it was commisioned, and, nothing it >>does would work any better or faster regardless of the CPU. >> >> >For the job they are fulfilling, I can understand that. > >And my PIII/500 does all I want. What I have difficulty in understanding is what do OS/2 / eCS >users DO with P4 grunt? > >For winblows/games a P4 would be handy/necessity but with our favourite OS what apps do people >use to soak up the clock cycles of a P4? > >I know that I could get through a heck-of-lot more SETI work units than I do now, but I'm not >prepared to spend the loot just to do that. At the moment, its no great problem to go and have a >shower or a crap or something while StarOffice fires up. > Hi Leigh, I can't follow the reason that people comment on how slow [& bulky ????? huh?] Star Office (I presume the final OS/2 version 5.1A) is. Here on a Celeron 366, and I just used the stopwatch timer in the eComCenter, under eCS 1.00; and it's the same under W4FP12+/MCPx; it took just under 3 seconds from click on the icon to fully loaded and operational! I installed every available option for Star Office, and am very pleased with it, contrary to what a lot of folks appear to think. As they say YMMV, but not that much! -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 02:16:43 +1100 From: "Mike O'Connor" Subject: Re: FP15 and Dialog Boxes Gavin Miller wrote: >Thanx for all the help guys, but nothing has changed. I repmod'ed the dll. The new dll >hasn't fixed the problem and I have added the SDD config lines with no result there >either. I have attached a happy snap of the symptoms. > >The image contains canvases at 100% (no problem) 90% (first stage of problem to >illustrate) and the adjust gradient map to show the dialog problem. I hope the >attatchment gets to you guys. > > Hi Gavin, Could you attach those [attachments deleted] items privately, so that I can see just what you are referring to. I presume they are only GIF/JPG - not multi-MB size. I've noticed that if I save screenshots as OS/2 BMP V2 without RLE encoding and zip them they end up much smaller than any GIF/JPG and of course no loss whatsoever in quality. What size were those two patches you mentioned and do you still have the originals you could mail me privately? TIA -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 19:28:40 +0200 From: "Roger Troost" Subject: OS/2 Java Corner updated! OS/2 Java Corner has been updated! http://home.hccnet.nl/rjj.troost/japp4os2.htm Thanks to numerous contributions from visitors it now contains well over 160 entries, each with its version no., the Java version required, a short description and its url, sorted in the categories: - Java for OS/2 and eCS - FAQs, tutorials and books - Java resources and software sites - Communication - Development - Games - Graphic and image - Multimedia - Scientific - Various All applications have been reported to run well with IBM Java 1.1.8, 1.3.x or 1.4.x for OS/2 and eComStation. For your convenience, all new entries are in bold and red. Please feel free to send me your additions, corrections, wishes or other comments! Kind regards, -- Roger Troost Polarbar / eComStation Visit OS/2 Java Corner at http://home.hccnet.nl/rjj.troost/japp4os2.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 19:34:58 +0200 From: "Roger Troost" Subject: OS/2 Java Corner updated! OS/2 Java Corner has been updated! http://home.hccnet.nl/rjj.troost/japp4os2.htm Thanks to numerous contributions from visitors it now contains well over 160 entries, each with its version no., the Java version required, a short description and its url, sorted in the categories: - Java for OS/2 and eCS - FAQs, tutorials and books - Java resources and software sites - Communication - Development - Games - Graphic and image - Multimedia - Scientific - Various All applications have been reported to run well with IBM Java 1.1.8, 1.3.x or 1.4.x for OS/2 and eComStation. For your convenience, all new entries are in bold and red. Please feel free to send me your additions, corrections, wishes or other comments! Kind regards, -- Roger Troost Polarbar / eComStation Visit OS/2 Java Corner at http://home.hccnet.nl/rjj.troost/japp4os2.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 19:41:15 +0200 From: "Roger Troost" Subject: OS/2 Java Corner updated! OS/2 Java Corner has been updated! http://home.hccnet.nl/rjj.troost/japp4os2.htm Thanks to numerous contributions from visitors it now contains well over 160 entries, each with its version no., the Java version required, a short description and its url, sorted in the categories: - Java for OS/2 and eCS - FAQs, tutorials and books - Java resources and software sites - Communication - Development - Games - Graphic and image - Multimedia - Scientific - Various All applications have been reported to run well with IBM Java 1.1.8, 1.3.x or 1.4.x for OS/2 and eComStation. For your convenience, all new entries are in bold and red. Please feel free to send me your additions, corrections, wishes or other comments! Kind regards, -- Roger Troost Polarbar / eComStation Visit OS/2 Java Corner at http://home.hccnet.nl/rjj.troost/japp4os2.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 19:42:10 +0200 From: "Roger Troost" Subject: OS/2 Java Corner updated! OS/2 Java Corner has been updated! http://home.hccnet.nl/rjj.troost/japp4os2.htm Thanks to numerous contributions from visitors it now contains well over 160 entries, each with its version no., the Java version required, a short description and its url, sorted in the categories: - Java for OS/2 and eCS - FAQs, tutorials and books - Java resources and software sites - Communication - Development - Games - Graphic and image - Multimedia - Scientific - Various All applications have been reported to run well with IBM Java 1.1.8, 1.3.x or 1.4.x for OS/2 and eComStation. For your convenience, all new entries are in bold and red. Please feel free to send me your additions, corrections, wishes or other comments! Kind regards, -- Roger Troost Polarbar / eComStation Visit OS/2 Java Corner at http://home.hccnet.nl/rjj.troost/japp4os2.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 08:33:01 +1000 (EST) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: Old Pc's (was eCS install questions) On Thu, 22 May 2003 02:00:28 +1100, Mike O'Connor wrote: >Hi Leigh, >I can't follow the reason that people comment on how slow [& bulky ????? >huh?] Star Office (I presume the final OS/2 version 5.1A) is. Here on a >Celeron 366, and I just used the stopwatch timer in the eComCenter, >under eCS 1.00; and it's the same under W4FP12+/MCPx; it took just under >3 seconds from click on the icon to fully loaded and operational! I >installed every available option for Star Office, and am very pleased >with it, contrary to what a lot of folks appear to think. As they say >YMMV, but not that much! Hi Mike. How much RAM do you have installed? I have a P166 (Cyrix) machine with 64Mb, lots of other apps open, and SO takes over a minute to load, plus the time to open up a document - even if I have selected SO from the document's Open menu list. You are quite right YMMV, but here it's by quite a lot! Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG talldad at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au -------------------------------------- PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... Never let an inanimate object know you are in a hurry. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 09:40:32 +1100 From: "Mike O'Connor" Subject: Re: Old Pc's (was eCS install questions) John Angelico wrote: >On Thu, 22 May 2003 02:00:28 +1100, Mike O'Connor wrote: > >>Hi Leigh, >>I can't follow the reason that people comment on how slow [& bulky ????? >>huh?] Star Office (I presume the final OS/2 version 5.1A) is. Here on a >>Celeron 366, and I just used the stopwatch timer in the eComCenter, >>under eCS 1.00; and it's the same under W4FP12+/MCPx; it took just under >>3 seconds from click on the icon to fully loaded and operational! I >>installed every available option for Star Office, and am very pleased >>with it, contrary to what a lot of folks appear to think. As they say >>YMMV, but not that much! >> >> > >Hi Mike. > >How much RAM do you have installed? > >I have a P166 (Cyrix) machine with 64Mb, lots of other apps open, and SO >takes over a minute to load, plus the time to open up a document - even if >I have selected SO from the document's Open menu list. > I find it much faster to open it directly, then click on the document in the SO default "work" folder! >You are quite right YMMV, but here it's by quite a lot! > > Hi John, I was lucky enough to be able to buy 2*256MB DIMMS at AU$69 quite a while back, which might explain why this eCS 1.00 machine brings up SO 5.1A quickly - IBM WB+Mail+NG was very active at the same time, plus NetBios and a bunch of other apps running. One each of those 256MB DIMMs went into each system. This machine currently has 384 total (8MB shared for SiS onboard Video), but the other 2 machines have 256MB total. Just went and checked out there and loadtime for SO to full desktop [no documents opened] was 7-8 seconds with W4FP12 and still ~170MB free RAM. Under MCP2 same machine [566 Celeron] it was circa 5 seconds for same, less remaining free RAM though. The drives are [here] 6.4GB Fujitsu ATA-66, UDMA4 and on the others 4GB Seagate Medalist ATA-33, UDMA2 and Maxtor 20GB ATA-100/5400 UDMA5. My motherboards are all that I can afford - [upgrade kits], but I try to get the best drives available in my price range [DSP], by shopping around. I'm only running in 64K colours - not 16 Million, if that makes a difference. Although I have become accustomed to Netscape/IBM Browser over the years, I'm actually very impressed with the SO browser - it's very fast and intelligent, yet barely rates a mention in most SO discussions. I guess if I had one of these cutting edge P4 or Athlon XP+ machines with 15,000 RPM SCSI, it'd really fly!! Doubt I'll ever see the day though. -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 15:00:00 +1000 (EDT) From: "List Admin" Subject: * Reminder * - Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting Date: Tuesday, 27th May 2003 Time: 6:30PM - 9:30PM Place: Melbourne PC Group Victoria, Australia. With Backup strategies, presented by John Angelico. The Monthly Meeting of Melbourne OS/2 SIG Normally held the fourth Tuesday of each month. Except December ! ie, this is the last meeting for the year, so be there or be hexagonal. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 16:43:41 +1000 (EST) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Melbourne PC OS/2 SIG Meeting 27th May Hello everyone on the Australian OS/2 list. Announcing next week's meeting of the Melbourne SIG to be held at Melbourne PC Rooms 27 Wells St, Sth Melbourne Commencing 6:30pm News & Views - latest items of interest in the world of PC Backup Strategies: John Angelico Why protect your data? Disaster recovery and the onosecond time-slice What to protect and how to store it Available software & hardware Tech-Talk: Bob Traynor on eCS 1.1 installation problems Free Java - continuous downloads available from the kitchenette! Close: 9:00pm Eatery: new venue, closer to our meeting room. Advance notice of June Meeting: Bootable JFS by Ian Manners Don't know what this means? Come along and find out! You do know? Then come and see latest developments on this topic from one of the world-wide team of beta-testers See you there! Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG talldad at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au -------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 17:59:46 +0830 From: Leigh Bunting Subject: OS/2UGSA May Meeting A note to anyone in SA (other than OS/2UGSA Members) about our meeting on the Tuesday 27th May from around 7.30pm at the Velocette Motor Cycle Clubrooms, corner of Drayton and Third St, Bowden. Ed Durrant from Sydney (brought in at tremendous expense) will be giving a presentation of eCS - if his download of it last night went according to plan ;-) Leigh Bunting Secretary ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------