From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 00:01:01 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 627 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Wednesday 28 May 2003 Number 627 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: FP15 and Dialog Boxes : Mike O'Connor" 2 A batch of seriously bad components is disabling computers around the world : Robert Traynor (BobT)" 3 Problem demo-ing eCS MT with network Internet access. : Robert Traynor (BobT)" 4 Re: FP15 and Dialog Boxes : Gavin Miller" 5 How to use more than one Mozilla on the same eCS/os2 system : Robert Traynor (BobT)" 6 PC Update SIG Report for OS/2 May meeting : John Angelico" 7 Re: Problem demo-ing eCS MT with network Internet access. : Paul Smedley" 8 Re: Problem demo-ing eCS MT with network Internet access. : Robert Traynor (BobT)" 9 Re: Problem demo-ing eCS MT with network Internet access. : Paul Smedley" 10 L2TP : 11 Re: L2TP : Paul Smedley" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 01:45:53 +1100 From: "Mike O'Connor" Subject: Re: FP15 and Dialog Boxes Mike O'Connor wrote: > Gavin Miller wrote: > >> Hi Mike, >> >>> When you upgraded from FP9, did you make sure to apply the DDPAK >>> driver updates to the system? >>> >> >> Sure did. I created a bootable CD and installed that on a clean >> partition. Update CD creator won't work without at least fp12, DDpak >> 2 &Java 1.1.8, so I have all of that stuff >> >>> Are you running with DIMIC? >> >> Never heard of it (or have, just not abreviated) >> >>> How much RAM do you have on that current system? >>> >> >> 223.6Mb >> > No problems there! That should be enough for at least a 1GB image with > Dynamic In-memory Image compression, with a lot of headroom left. > >> It's Definitely fp 12,13,14,15 that have this problem. I know it's >> not a bad installation of colorworks because It was on a seperate >> partiton. All I had to do was create another program object. It >> worked fine before. >> >> Cheers >> G >> >> > Hi Gavin, > I thought the problem doesn't exist on FP12, as I'd never encountered > it, so went and tried it out - you're right! I updated the old SDD > 7.03 drivers to SNAP 213 SE, and still the same. when I setup > 1280*1024 canvas it came up at 60% size, and about the right 40% of that > was jet black. Wow! I guess as I have always worked on images > smaller than screen dimensions, that's the reason I've never > encountered it. I know I remember having a "conversation" with a > German guy who had problems with Colorworks and SDD on a Matrox card. > that was about 6 months ago. > > When you look at the superb quality of the artwork and printing in the > printed manual, it's amazing, considering what they would have cost to > produce, that SPG are still there with their Web Graphics tools on the > Darkside, and hadn't gone down the drain. It would have to be the > most expensive software manual ever produced! Will check out the > gradient controls. > Hi Gavin, Addendum to that. I just tried out the same test on another FP12 on a machine with 8MB of on-board-SiS [shared] AGP memory and the result was again 60% canvas, but no black at all on the canvas, so FP12/15 etc., on it's own isn't causing the problem. -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 09:33:05 +1000 From: "Robert Traynor (BobT)" Subject: A batch of seriously bad components is disabling computers around the world As discussed at the MelbPc Os2 SIG last night. Credit to os2hardware email list. See Toronto Star website for full story... -----------------partial quote---------------------------- Smaller than a triple-A battery, these tiny electronic components aren't likely to cause serious injury to computer users. But a faulty capacitor can render a computer useless without warning. And they are - by the thousands, if not millions. Capacitors in all kinds of electronic circuits seem to be missing some critical ingredients that keep them from exploding. It's unclear how this bad batch of capacitors came to be. Some say it's a case of bungled corporate espionage. Industry analysts say that something like this was bound to happen in such a highly competitive market. Take note, link below will wordwrap. http://www.thestar dot com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1035777852519&call_pageid=968350072197&col=969048863851 Robert Traynor (BobT). 28 May 2003 9:32 ,-._|\ Robert Traynor (BobT) / Oz \ email rtraynor at removeme.optusnet dot com dot au \_,--.x/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 12:09:17 +1000 From: "Robert Traynor (BobT)" Subject: Problem demo-ing eCS MT with network Internet access. Hi All, At my the Os2 SIG group (Melbourne PC Users Group - os/2 SIG) last night I tried to demo the eCS 1.1 Maintenance Tool. The SIG has purchased our own copy of eCS 1.1 for our own club machine. I could not demonstrate the eCS MT as the "powers that be" have our machine behind a firewall and with an internet lan connection that explicitly demands a proxy for all HTTP and FTP connections. Our browsers will only work if we add to their configuration for manual proxy, specifically:- proxy1.melbpc dot org dot au Port 8080. What I need to know is, HOW do I tell the eCS MT to use the proxy.? At the moment, the eCS MT 2.0 recognizes the ecomstation web site, attempts to download a file and effectively hangs. If I use a browser with the proxy added, I can go to the ecomstation site and download anything almost instantly, the other side of the firewall is directly connected to a internet backbone. And in case someone asks, I did configure the eCS MT with my download ecs"name" and ecomstation download password, which I got by attempting a download from the "Download Software" section, AFTER logging into the ecomstation dot com site. And PLEASE don't suggest I contact the "Internet Team" or administrators of my clubs' Internet setup. They are a pack of windows users with linux pretensions and are as useless as tits on a bull. Besides, if they did do any changes, eCS 3.0 will have been delivered by the time they get around to reviewing any "required" changes. TIA, Robert Traynor (BobT). 28 May 2003 11:52 MelbPc Os/2 SIG co-convenor. ,-._|\ Robert Traynor (BobT) / Oz \ email rtraynor at removeme.optusnet dot com dot au \_,--.x/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 16:44:12 +1000 (EST) From: "Gavin Miller" Subject: Re: FP15 and Dialog Boxes I have a nVidia TNT2 M64 AGP /w 32Mb ram. My SDD is 7.07 IBM version. Interesting that this problem didn't appear on your 8Mb SiS system. I wonder if it has something to do with my AGP bios settings. Will try on my sister's computer with has a 3D fx Voodoo 3000 /w 16Mb ram and see what happens. Cheers G >Hi Gavin, >Addendum to that. I just tried out the same test on another FP12 on a >machine with 8MB of on-board-SiS [shared] AGP memory and the result was >again 60% canvas, but no black at all on the canvas, so FP12/15 etc., on >it's own isn't causing the problem. > >-- >Regards, >Mike > >Failed the exam for >-------------------- >MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert >-------------------- > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 16:49:49 +1000 (AEST) From: "Robert Traynor (BobT)" Subject: How to use more than one Mozilla on the same eCS/os2 system Hi All, Following the MelbPc Os/2 SIG meeting last night where John demoed the Mozilla FireBird 0.6 for os/2, the following info is to enable anyone to be able to use more than one Mozilla on the same eCS/os2 system at the same time.! The info is From:- http://www.os2bbs dot com/OS2News/Warpzilla.html You can run multiple versions of Mozilla/Phoenix at the same time, as long as you are careful. You must use different profiles for each version, and run a little script to start it: Create a batch file "gofirebird.cmd" and locate it in the same sub directory as MozillaFireBird. Note:- This is from MY installation, change drive letters and directories to suit YOUR system.. -----------------start gofirebird.cmd--------------------------- at echo off SET MOZ_NO_REMOTE=1 SET LIBPATHSTRICT=T SET HOME=D:\home\FireBird SET MOZILLA_HOME=D:\home\FireBird SET BEGINLIBPATH=D:\Programs\Firebird;%beginlibpath%' SET PATH=D:\Programs\Firebird;%PATH% rem D:\Programs\Firebird\MozillaFirebird.exe MozillaFirebird.exe -------------------end gofirebird.cmd------------------------- Create icon on desktop and set the properties to "Start Minimized". Add the line below to your FIREBIRD "PREFS.JS" file (beware word wrapping). Also Note the use of TWO backslash characters is required. user_pref("browser.bookmarks.file", "D:\\home\\default\\Mozilla\\Profiles\\OptusNet Internet\\8g92ofmf.slt\\bookmarks.html"); The above enables me to use the SAME bookmark file for the IBM Web Browser, in Mozilla FireBird as well. Anyone is welcome to contribute, please post your ideas under the SUBJECT heading above. More Suggestions people.? Regards, BobT. ,-._|\ Robert Traynor (BobT) / Oz \ email rtraynor at removeme.optusnet dot com dot au \_,--.x/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 17:23:42 +1000 (EST) From: "John Angelico" Subject: PC Update SIG Report for OS/2 May meeting Melbourne PC SIG Meeting Report To: G Taig Features Editor PC Update CC: OS/2 SIG Members Report Date: 28 May 2003 Meeting Date: 27 May 2003 Report by: John Angelico (03) 9544 8792 Numbers for May were down, possibly weather-related. 1. New browser Following a pause for setup, which included some struggle with proxy settings, we introduced the latest browser for OS/2 and eCS: Mozilla-Firebird. Slim by recent Mozilla standards, it includes most modern features (tabbed panels, sidebars, auto-completed sign-ins etc) but has been deliberately designed as a browser without email, newsgroup or composer functions. It therefore runs very well on old systems (eg. the SIGs 64Mb RAM, P200 CPU machine) and will probably go like a scalded cat on any current well-optioned hardware. With the History feature plus excellent drag/n/drop to the Desktop, Firebird is now approaching the level of integration with OS/2 which we last saw in the original WebExplorer released with Warp 3. The Mozilla project has now been subdivided into a number of Modules (Firebird browser, Thunderbird email client, composer, newsgroup reader etc), and the Mozilla v1.4 just released could be the last all-in-one browser. The concept now is to release modules which can be mixed/n/matched to suit individual user needs - an enlargement of the 'plug-ins' idea. Conclusion: based on first looks, highly recommended 2. Hardware: motherboard warning Bob Traynor reported on an epidemic of capacitor failures which render motherboards useless. Full details have been posted to the SIG mailing list. 3. Backup Strategies John Angelico outlined some essential points in developing a backup and data protection strategy. Outline notes will be published shortly on the SIG website. 4. Tech-Talk In the second half of the meeting we discussed full-screen vs windowed operations especially for Windows software running in a Win-OS2 session, plus settings to modify the behaviour of sessions to suit particular needs of programs. The meeting closed at 9:15pm to try a new eatery nearby. Conclusion: excellent value-for-money! Next meeting: June 24th Bootable JFS ------------------ Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG talldad at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au -------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 18:42:18 +0950 (CST) From: "Paul Smedley" Subject: Re: Problem demo-ing eCS MT with network Internet access. Hi Bob, On Wed, 28 May 2003 12:09:17 +1000, Robert Traynor (BobT) wrote: >I could not demonstrate the eCS MT as the "powers that be" have our machine >behind a firewall and with an internet lan connection that explicitly >demands a proxy for all HTTP and FTP connections. > >Our browsers will only work if we add to their configuration for >manual proxy, specifically:- proxy1.melbpc dot org dot au Port 8080. > >What I need to know is, HOW do I tell the eCS MT to use the proxy.? Easy - Click Downloads -> Status; check the box that says 'Use proxy for FTP' then enter the proxy details. Hope this helps, Paul. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 19:34:53 +1000 (AEST) From: "Robert Traynor (BobT)" Subject: Re: Problem demo-ing eCS MT with network Internet access. Thanks Paul, I missed it. I did not realize that it was on the "status box" or that the option window would only appear once you put the tick in the box that says 'Use proxy for FTP'. I will test it out next time I am at the club rooms. I just hope this "option" is not dependant on downloading an update control config file from the ecomstation site. I might just take the files d/l to my own system by the eCS MT and burn them to cd, just in case I need to update the version of the eCS MT etc currently installed. Regards, BobT. On Wed, 28 May 2003 18:42:18 +0950 (CST), Paul Smedley wrote: > Hi Bob, > > On Wed, 28 May 2003 12:09:17 +1000, Robert Traynor (BobT) wrote: > >I could not demonstrate the eCS MT as the "powers that be" have our machine > >behind a firewall and with an internet lan connection that explicitly > >demands a proxy for all HTTP and FTP connections. > > > >Our browsers will only work if we add to their configuration for > >manual proxy, specifically:- proxy1.melbpc dot org dot au Port 8080. > > > >What I need to know is, HOW do I tell the eCS MT to use the proxy.? > Easy - Click Downloads -> Status; check the box that says 'Use proxy for FTP' then enter > the proxy details. > > Hope this helps, > > Paul. ,-._|\ Robert Traynor (BobT) / Oz \ email rtraynor at removeme.optusnet dot com dot au \_,--.x/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 19:18:33 +0950 (CST) From: "Paul Smedley" Subject: Re: Problem demo-ing eCS MT with network Internet access. Bob, On Wed, 28 May 2003 19:34:53 +1000 (AEST), Robert Traynor (BobT) wrote: >I missed it. I did not realize that it was on the "status box" >or that the option window would only appear once you put >the tick in the box that says 'Use proxy for FTP'. I only knew it was there somewhere as I remembered reading a newsgroup post when the functionality was added :) It shouldn't be dependant on any updated control files, as eCSMT uses wget to do all it's downloading - all it's doing is passing the proxy settings to wget to allow proxy ftp transfers. Cheers, Paul. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 20:36:07 -1000 From: Subject: L2TP Hi All What is L2TP and how is it better than PPPOE. Anything special required for OS/2 Regards Dennis. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 20:14:57 +0950 (CST) From: "Paul Smedley" Subject: Re: L2TP Dennis, On Wed, 28 May 2003 20:36:07 -1000, djn at peninsula.hotkey dot net dot au wrote: >What is L2TP and how is it better than PPPOE. Layer 2 ADSL essentially just means that the Telstra authentication servers are cut out of the loop and the ISP's are used instead, increasing reliability. PPPoE or PPPoA are still used regardless of L2 or L3. A much better explanation is here: http://adsl.internode.on dot net/faq/padsl-l2tp.htm >Anything special required for OS/2 Layer 2 or Layer 3 ADSL has no effect on OS/2. I just changed my Internode ADSL to Layer 2 yesterday - working great so far - but I'm using a D-Link DSL-504 router. Cheers, Paul. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------