From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 00:03:58 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 693 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Monday 15 September 2003 Number 693 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Travelstar portable HDD : John Angelico" 2 Re: Travelstar portable HDD : D McKenzie 3 Re: Travelstar portable HDD : Ed Durrant 4 Re: Travelstar portable HDD : John Angelico" 5 Re: Travelstar portable HDD : Ed Durrant 6 Re: Travelstar portable HDD : John Angelico" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 15:54:41 +1000 (AEST) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Travelstar portable HDD Hi all. I have acquired a Travelstar 5Gb hard drive which appears to have been internal to someone's laptop, and was wondering if anyone (esp in Australia) knew how easy it would be to find a) an external case and b) a PCMCIA adapter to connect it to my TP-760EL ? Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... Take care in what you wish for...you just might get it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:32:49 +1000 From: D McKenzie Subject: Re: Travelstar portable HDD Hi John, Go to any swap meet and pay about $50 to $60 and you will get as USB Case. There appear to be 2 sizes of case (Height) for thin and thick drives. You may also find a USB adapter card as well. Regards Don. At 03:54 PM 15/09/03, you wrote: >Hi all. > >I have acquired a Travelstar 5Gb hard drive which appears to have been >internal to someone's laptop, and was wondering if anyone (esp in >Australia) knew how easy it would be to find >a) an external case and >b) a PCMCIA adapter to connect it to my TP-760EL > >? > > >Best regards >John Angelico >OS/2 SIG >os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or >talldad at kepl dot com dot au >___________________ > >PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico >... Take care in what you wish for...you just might get it. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 18:01:30 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Travelstar portable HDD Nice Idea - only problem, the TP760 range came out before USB. Given that this is a 2 inch drive and given that the existing (800MB ?) drive in your TP760EL is no longer required, you should be able to take the metal casing off the existing drive and pop the travelstar drive in. The thinkpads use a rightangled connector to go from mini-eide to the motherboard connector. I don't think you'll have much luck getting one of those. The other alternative is an EIDE PCMCIA card and a 2 to 3.5 inch adapter cable (try North Rocks if you're in the Sydney area for one of these). Another option is a "standard" parrallel port to EIDE external housing and again a 2 inch to 3.5 inch drive adapter cable and pack the box with something to stop the drive from moving about and attach to it via the parrallel port. This is useful if you want to use the drive to transfer data between systems but acess is SLOWWWWW over the parrallel port. Cheers/2 Ed. D McKenzie wrote: > Hi John, > > Go to any swap meet and pay about $50 to $60 and you will get as USB Case. > > There appear to be 2 sizes of case (Height) for thin and thick drives. > > You may also find a USB adapter card as well. > > Regards > > Don. > > At 03:54 PM 15/09/03, you wrote: > >Hi all. > > > >I have acquired a Travelstar 5Gb hard drive which appears to have been > >internal to someone's laptop, and was wondering if anyone (esp in > >Australia) knew how easy it would be to find > >a) an external case and > >b) a PCMCIA adapter to connect it to my TP-760EL > > > >? > > > > > >Best regards > >John Angelico > >OS/2 SIG > >os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or > >talldad at kepl dot com dot au > >___________________ > > > >PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico > >... Take care in what you wish for...you just might get it. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:34:16 +1000 (AEST) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: Travelstar portable HDD On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 18:01:30 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote: Hi Ed. >Nice Idea - only problem, the TP760 range came out before USB. My worry exactly. >Given that this is a 2 inch drive and given that the existing (800MB ?) drive in your >TP760EL is no longer required, 2.1Gb drive with Win 95 (must keep for GST once a month :-( ) plus eCS 1.02 plus data - so still required. My thought was either a) retain internal 2.1 Gb dual system plus external 5Gb data (thus my question re external cases) b) internal 5Gb eCS plus data, and external 2.1Gb Win95... or c) swappable 2.1Gb Win95 and 5Gb eCS plus data. >you should be able to take the metal casing off the >existing drive and pop the travelstar drive in. The thinkpads use a rightangled >connector to go from mini-eide to the motherboard connector. I don't think you'll have >much luck getting one of those. Right angle connector is still there - a big win by the sound of it. There is also a rear connector apparently in electrical parallel with the right-angle > >The other alternative is an EIDE PCMCIA card and a 2 to 3.5 inch adapter cable (try >North Rocks if you're in the Sydney area for one of these). Melbourne. Nearest I will get to North Rocks is Narellan Vale in Macarthur region on Friday, without much time. I don't fancy Route 7 on a Friday afternoon - been there, done that, got the T-shirt! > >Another option is a "standard" parrallel port to EIDE external housing and again a 2 >inch to 3.5 inch drive adapter cable and pack the box with something to stop the drive >from moving about and attach to it via the parrallel port. This is useful if you want >to use the drive to transfer data between systems but acess is SLOWWWWW over the >parrallel port. Ah, last last last resort? Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... Progress is made on alternate Fridays. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:50:43 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Travelstar portable HDD John Angelico wrote: > Hi Ed. > > Right angle connector is still there - a big win by the sound of it. There > is also a rear connector apparently in electrical parallel with the > right-angle > But the connector is in the disk housing - correct ? (yes power and eide) So unless you can find another disk you don't want, I suspect you're back to the old problem of how to connect. I'm sure other computer stores carry the 2 inch to 3.5 inch cable adapters, by the way. It's just that North rocks seems to have all this little things and usually at the cheapest prices. I forgot you were in Melbourne of course. How about another approach. Ghost the existing drive to a network drive, or via the convertor cable to a disk in a desktop PC. Use the existing disk housing for the new 5GB drive. Return the old disk image to the new drive and partition the remaining 3 GB to use as required. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 23:37:26 +1000 (AEST) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: Travelstar portable HDD On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:50:43 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote: We may have to pause this discussion Ed, as I have to spend Tuesday doing about 48 hours worth of work . > >John Angelico wrote: > >> Hi Ed. >> >> Right angle connector is still there - a big win by the sound of it. There >> is also a rear connector apparently in electrical parallel with the >> right-angle >> > > But the connector is in the disk housing - correct ? (yes power and eide) I have a bare disk with connector and part of a plastic case. There is a basic IDE connector attached to the housing, and a flat plastic ribbon connector, akin to printer head connectors (but amber and traslucent), wraps around the case as you said at right angles, and presents a mini connector at the side of the case/housing, fitting into the edge of the plastic outer case. > So unless you can find another disk you don't want, I suspect you're back to the old >problem of how to connect. > > I'm sure other computer stores carry the 2 inch to 3.5 inch cable adapters, by the way. >It's just that North rocks seems to have all this little things and usually at the cheapest >prices. I forgot you were in Melbourne of course. Not to worry. When I return (next week) I will try Blue Connection. > > How about another approach. Ghost the existing drive to a network drive, or via the >convertor cable to a disk in a desktop PC. Use the existing disk housing for the new 5GB >drive. Return the old disk image to the new drive and partition the remaining 3 GB to use >as required. Better than the previous last resort... At least this thread is making progress ... Thanks so far, and I shall return. Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... It looks like an optical illusion, but it isn't. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------