From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 00:04:02 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 715 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Thursday 30 October 2003 Number 715 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Java based MPEG4 multimedia (including streaming) support : Ed Durrant 2 Contacting Netlabs : k.downes at optusnet dot com dot au 3 Re: Contacting Netlabs : Ed Durrant 4 Re: Contacting Netlabs : Voytek 5 Re: Contacting Netlabs : Voytek 6 Re: Contacting Netlabs : Ed Durrant 7 Re: Contacting Netlabs : Voytek Eymont 8 Re: DeScribe was Contacting Netlabs : John Angelico" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:04:21 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Java based MPEG4 multimedia (including streaming) support This toolkit is Java-based so that the client applications and the content creation applications are cross-platform and will run on any platform that supports Java. On PCs this is HTTP based via a browser but PDAs and Cellular phone type devices also seem to be supported. This SDK is a JAVA implementation of MPEG-4 support that JAVA application writers could implement in their applications. I find the comment regarding streaming MPEG-4 video to be of particular interest. I think MPEG-4 is DiVX format ? There are also some sample apps included. The IBM Toolkit for MPEG-4 has just been released by the IBM research team. It is now available for download, evaluation and licensing on alphaWorks. The IBM Toolkit for MPEG-4 consists of a set of JavaTM classes and APIs with five sample applications, and now, a new SDK is available for developing applications for MPEG-4. MPEG-4, an open International ISO standard, is a new multimedia standard for coding and composing audio, video, graphics, text, etc., into a rich presentation scene complete with user interactivity. MPEG-4 coding treats a scene as a collection of media objects, each of which is individually coded and can be dynamically updated. MPEG-4 can be used for stored media as well as for live-broadcasting and streaming. The object-based coding and dynamic nature of MPEG-4 makes it suitable for personalizing and contectualizing rich media content. Go to download the new evaluation SDK: http://www.alphaworks.ibm dot com/tech/tk4mpeg4 If you are interested in using the SDK for IBM Toolkit for MPEG-4 and would like to license it, please go to the following URL to view and purchase the license: http://www.alphaworks.ibm dot com/awlr.nsf/cl?readform&n=tk4mpeg4 Cheers/2 Ed Durrant ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:15:08 +0800 From: k.downes at optusnet dot com dot au Subject: Contacting Netlabs Does anyone know an e-mail address for netlabs? I've just been all over their site and can't find one. My suggestion for them might be of some minor interest for this group also. I'm still (being a creature of deeply ingrained habit) an avid user of DeScribe (v5.06). My suggestion for Netlabs is that someone might deem it a suitable project to try to get hold of the sources for DeScribe and restart/continue development on it. Once you give DeScribe a fair trial you'll be sold. It's only real problem, even now, is lack of recent file format conversions. The latest Word4Windoze converter in it is for Word v6.0 What do you think? Regards Kev Downes ========================= k.downes at optusnet dot com dot au Windows is not the answer. Windows is the question. The answer is NO! We use and recommend IBM OS/2 Warp and Serenity System's eComStation. ========================= "Jesus Christ is the centre of everything and the object of everything; and he who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world and nothing of himself." Blaise Pascal ========================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:41:29 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Contacting Netlabs Wait for OpenOffice for OS/2 - should be out at least in beta by the end of the year. Saw an alpha of it at warpstock last week. Cost will be US$30 - $40 Full MS Office compatibility. Cheers/2 Ed. k.downes at optusnet dot com dot au wrote: > Does anyone know an e-mail address for netlabs? I've just been all over > their site and can't find one. My suggestion for them might be of some > minor interest for this group also. I'm still (being a creature of deeply > ingrained habit) an avid user of DeScribe (v5.06). My suggestion for > Netlabs is that someone might deem it a suitable project to try to get > hold of the sources for DeScribe and restart/continue development on it. > Once you give DeScribe a fair trial you'll be sold. It's only real > problem, even now, is lack of recent file format conversions. The latest > Word4Windoze converter in it is for Word v6.0 > > What do you think? > > Regards > Kev Downes ========================= > k.downes at optusnet dot com dot au > Windows is not the answer. Windows is the question. The answer is NO! We > use and recommend IBM OS/2 Warp and Serenity System's eComStation. ========================= > "Jesus Christ is the centre of everything and the object of everything; > and he who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world and > nothing of himself." Blaise Pascal ========================= > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:33:19 From: Voytek Subject: Re: Contacting Netlabs ** Reply to note from k.downes at optusnet dot com dot au Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:15:08 +0800 > The latest > Word4Windoze converter in it is for Word v6.0 it works for Word97 as well it won't recognize it, but, it works after you force it word6 and 97 is same format EXCEPT for header Voytek Eymont SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/ phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:34:45 From: Voytek Subject: Re: Contacting Netlabs ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:41:29 +1100 > Wait for OpenOffice for OS/2 - should be out at least in beta by the end of the year. > > Saw an alpha of it at warpstock last week. any news on the PIM/SQL app? (whatever it's called) Voytek Eymont SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/ phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:33:13 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Contacting Netlabs Hi Voytek, I'm not sure what you are referring to. There's no SQL database in Open Office or MS Office. There is apparently a "new" database program in the latest (purchasable) Star Office but from what the guy from Sun said, this wont be coming to Open office. Cheers/2 Ed. Voytek wrote: > ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:41:29 +1100 > > > Wait for OpenOffice for OS/2 - should be out at least in beta by the end of the year. > > > > Saw an alpha of it at warpstock last week. > > any news on the PIM/SQL app? (whatever it's called) > > Voytek Eymont > SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd > http://www.sbt dot net dot au/links/ > phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:32:39 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: Contacting Netlabs ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:33:13 +1100 > Hi Voytek, I'm not sure what you are referring to. There's no SQL database in Open Office or > MS Office. There is apparently a "new" database program in the latest (purchasable) Star > Office but from what the guy from Sun said, this wont be coming to Open office. sorry, I meant the PIM app the Netlabs were developing, based on MySQL database back end, can't think of the name right now. hmm, just looked at the www, I can not find it anymore... Voytek Eymont ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:32:43 +1100 (AEDT) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: DeScribe was Contacting Netlabs On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:15:08 +0800, k.downes at optusnet dot com dot au wrote: Hi Kev. >Does anyone know an e-mail address for netlabs? I've just been all over >their site and can't find one. My suggestion for them might be of some >minor interest for this group also. I'm still (being a creature of deeply >ingrained habit) an avid user of DeScribe (v5.06). I'm with you on that. >My suggestion for >Netlabs is that someone might deem it a suitable project to try to get >hold of the sources for DeScribe and restart/continue development on it. >Once you give DeScribe a fair trial you'll be sold. Agreed, but... >It's only real >problem, even now, is lack of recent file format conversions. The latest >Word4Windoze converter in it is for Word v6.0 Yes, but the owner has displayed truck-loads of apathy since there is so much third-party licenced software within the overall package. Note how long it took Scitech and Watcom to "clean up" the C/C++ source. > >What do you think? I agree in theory, but in practice, Murphy's Law (Gen 3) applies. > >Regards >Kev Downes ========================= >k.downes at optusnet dot com dot au >Windows is not the answer. Windows is the question. The answer is NO! We >use and recommend IBM OS/2 Warp and Serenity System's eComStation. ========================= >"Jesus Christ is the centre of everything and the object of everything; >and he who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world and >nothing of himself." Blaise Pascal ========================= Two indisputable quotations. Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... That's fine in practice, but it'll never work in theory. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------