From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:04:03 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 733 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Friday 28 November 2003 Number 733 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : Ed Durrant 2 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : Graham Norton" 3 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : Graham Norton" 4 Re: Cheap OS/2 compatible digital camera : Voytek Eymont 5 Re: Printer Drivers HP Laserjet 6L Separator Page : Alan Heiser" 6 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : Daryl Pilkington 7 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : Daryl Pilkington 8 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : Voytek Eymont 9 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : Voytek Eymont 10 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : Voytek Eymont 11 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : Voytek Eymont 12 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : John Angelico" 13 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : voytek at sbt dot net dot au 14 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : Daryl Pilkington 15 Re: Printer Drivers HP Laserjet 6L Separator Page : Ed Durrant 16 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : John Angelico" 17 Re: Cheap OS/2 compatible digital camera : Ed Durrant 18 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : Ed Durrant 19 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : Voytek Eymont 20 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : Voytek Eymont 21 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : Daryl Pilkington 22 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : Daryl Pilkington 23 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : John Angelico" 24 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : Ed Durrant 25 Re: Cheap OS/2 compatible digital camera : Voytek Eymont **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:09:16 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al I think the client being referred to here is the "servolution" client from Comtarsia - an Austrian, not a German company based in Vienna. Their client is IMHO better than the IBM one as it simply works in multiple environments when installed. It can also handle more environments - OS/2, Windoze and *nix, citrix, terminal services. They also have a lot of good explanatory documents on their site regarding how Windows connectivity works. Definately worth a look. Info at: http://servolution dot comtarsia dot com/main/en/Allgemein Cheers/2 Ed. Daryl Pilkington wrote: > Thanks Graham, > I'm using the IBM Co-ordinated logon client, what is the Camtaris client > like? What makes it better than the IBM one? > > DOS box, yes I remember your accounting program, a good example of DOS > working well. Still supported by Quock?, (apologies if the name is mispelt). > > Sounds like this could be a tricky one, will post my findings here once > I find a solution. > > Graham Norton wrote: > > > Hi Daryl > > > > we have a W2000 client and have the German Log on software (Comtaris) which is stable and the machine sees the WSEB > > box and has no issues... no need to reboot server > > > > As to the DOS issue - now I am not an expert in this but you may recall that we have an DOS accounting software and share it on > > the Server and I have attempted to set up the DOS environment but it seems impossible ! > > > SNIP > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:54:10 +1050 (CDT) From: "Graham Norton" Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al Hi Daryl well I think this is what we have (Paul Smedley will correct me if wrong!) we use Injoy Firewall/Gateway at both ends Work 1.warp server file and print server email server (weasel) Webmail/2 (email access from external browser) ftp server squid proxy web2 http server - www.smart-road dot com dot au DTOC 2.separate PC gateway machine running Injoy Home warp server (picked up a shrink wrapped unopened warp server v4 on ebay for $45) so I have a LAN (lounge room area network at home too! - about to have some cabling installed in all the important rooms - bedrooms. study and of course toilet ) file and print server Internet gateway and Firewall email server (weasel) Webmail/2 (email access from external browser) ftp server web2 http server 4 domains - www.neurologysa dot com dot au www.thenortons.info www.boogiebugs dot com www.gayswim.info DTOC so VPN is active on both ends and I can do a log on at home then map the various drives on the Work server as a drive on the home machine and then run anything I like from home including running the medical account package. cheers Graham and On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:50:57 +1100, Daryl Pilkington wrote: >Great Graham, >Are you using InJoy Firewall at both ends? >Alternatively are you using a hardware router with VPN at home & IJF at >the office? > >Do you have WS4eB file-sharing between the office & home using the VPN? > >I'm using Smoothwall gateway, a cut-down version of Linux, installs in >15min. on a spare P100/32MB PC. Haven't setup the VPN side of it yet, >though. > >What are you using for a http & DNS cache or don't you bother? > > >Graham Norton wrote: > >> we now have VPN setup on the server and now that I have broad band at home, have the VPN via Injoy Firewall/gateway - >> seems very stable ! >> >SNIP > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:07:25 +1050 (CDT) From: "Graham Norton" Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al I tried the fax to email in PMFax -LAN and it works but I hardly ever needed it and it seemed 'silly' - its attached as an image file and thus can be potentially big... PM Fax LAN version has the abilty to set up individual in boxes so that they can be received on individual clients,,, as our office has 6 people all sitting in the same room and the fax is printed out - the hard copy is given to the addressee. In a bigger office and / or to save paper, obviously the LAN distribution option in attractive... I suggest you look at PM FAX LAN a great product On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:41:12 +1100 (AEDT), John Angelico wrote: >On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:07:01 +1100, Daryl Pilkington wrote: > >>Q6: >>What fax server software is available for WS4eB that will integrate with >>email & also W2k & WinXP clients? >>I'd like incoming faxes to be manually routed to email & W2k & WinXP >>clients to seamlessly fax to the LAN. > >If the Win boxen can see the OS/2 fax object, then I suggest the PM-Fax LaN >product. This also has Fax-To-Email functions which I have never used >(address a fax to an email address and it will drop the fax as an >attachment to an email into your outbox.) > >Start at www.cds-inc dot com as PM-Fax formerly Faxworks for OS/2 is now a part >of the BackAgain stable. There is also a Win version called PrimaFax. > > > >Best regards >John Angelico >OS/2 SIG >os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or >talldad at kepl dot com dot au >___________________ > > Graham Norton Neurologist "when I need a hole in the head, I use Windows when I need a window on the brain, I use OS2!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:00:22 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: Cheap OS/2 compatible digital camera ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:52:25 +1100 > If anyone is interested. A Sydney importer is selling several EMPREX > DSC 2200V digital still / short movie 2.1 / 3 (interpolated) MP > cameras on eBAY Australia. They're going for prices between AUS$100 > and AUS$175, depending upon how lucky you are with your bids. these > are brand new cameras and while not the big name brand, construction > seems reasonable for the price and most important to us - simply plug > the USB cable into your OS/2 or eCS system with IBMs latest USB > drivers installed and it sees the camera as a mass storage device and > you are able to access the pictures (JPEG files) from OS/2. You can > also delete the picture files you don't want just as if they were on > your local disc. did you get one ? so, it's 2MP with no zoom, how much memory ? what type of memory ? Voytek Eymont ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:17:09 +1000 (KST) From: "Alan Heiser" Subject: Re: Printer Drivers HP Laserjet 6L Separator Page Direct via LPT1 Alan On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:36:07 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: >Printing direct to the printer via LPD or via a server ?? > >Cheers/2 > >Ed. > >Alan Heiser wrote: > >> For some reason my printer has decided to print a page outlining the print job before >> actually printing the job. This appears to be a separator page as set in print options of >> the printer properties notebook. But there is no separator file specified at that place. In >> fact, specifying a separator file means the specified file only is printed. >> >> Looking at a print job as a metafile does not show a separator file, so it is something >> the printer is setting between spooling the job and actually printing it. >> >> Very annoying, and I can find no way of switching it off. >> >> Printer is HP Laserjet 6L and printer driver is LASERJET.HP Laserjet 6L and the >> version is the one that came with the ECS 1.1 (Version 30.778). OS is of course ECS 1.1 >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> Thanks >> >> Alan >> > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:26:11 +1100 From: Daryl Pilkington Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al Hi John, What do you mean by "If the Win Boxen can see the OS/2 fax object". The version of PMfax I've used doesn't have NT or W2k clients. I've emailed CDS, there was nothing about ordering Windows clients on their web-site. John Angelico wrote: > On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:07:01 +1100, Daryl Pilkington wrote: > > >>Q6: >>What fax server software is available for WS4eB that will integrate with >>email & also W2k & WinXP clients? >>I'd like incoming faxes to be manually routed to email & W2k & WinXP >>clients to seamlessly fax to the LAN. > > > If the Win boxen can see the OS/2 fax object, then I suggest the PM-Fax LaN > product. This also has Fax-To-Email functions which I have never used > (address a fax to an email address and it will drop the fax as an > attachment to an email into your outbox.) > > Start at www.cds-inc dot com as PM-Fax formerly Faxworks for OS/2 is now a part > of the BackAgain stable. There is also a Win version called PrimaFax. > SNIP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:38:40 +1100 From: Daryl Pilkington Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al Neat Graham, Your WAN is bigger than my WAN... I've just got Warp Server, running on OS/2 Warp 4. DTOC, PMfax LAN. About to change the fax card for a Mwave card. Remember those, great IBM technology that didn't quite get marketed well... Smoothwall for all IP stuff, http & DNS proxy, DHCP, NAT. You say Warp Server 4, I thought you were using WS4eB? $45 for WS4eB!!! (If it is, rather than Warp Server). LAN file sharing, you must have TCPBEUI protocol working. Brian Butler was playing with using DNS for name resolution with TCPBEUI. Did Paul Smedley setup TCPBEUI for WAN LAN server access? Perhaps I should email him, WAN LAN access is a bit tricky. Graham Norton wrote: > Hi Daryl > > well I think this is what we have (Paul Smedley will correct me if wrong!) > > we use Injoy Firewall/Gateway at both ends > > Work > > 1.warp server > file and print server > email server (weasel) > Webmail/2 (email access from external browser) > ftp server > squid proxy > web2 http server - www.smart-road dot com dot au > DTOC > > 2.separate PC gateway machine running Injoy > > Home > > warp server (picked up a shrink wrapped unopened warp server v4 on ebay for $45) so I have a LAN (lounge room area > network at home too! - about to have some cabling installed in all the important rooms - bedrooms. study and of course toilet ) > > file and print server > Internet gateway and Firewall > email server (weasel) > Webmail/2 (email access from external browser) > ftp server > web2 http server 4 domains - www.neurologysa dot com dot au > www.thenortons.info > www.boogiebugs dot com > www.gayswim.info > DTOC > > > so VPN is active on both ends and I can do a log on at home then map the various drives on the Work server as a drive on the > home machine and then run anything I like from home including running the medical account package. > > cheers > > Graham > > > > > and On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:50:57 +1100, Daryl Pilkington wrote: > > >>Great Graham, >>Are you using InJoy Firewall at both ends? >>Alternatively are you using a hardware router with VPN at home & IJF at >>the office? >> >>Do you have WS4eB file-sharing between the office & home using the VPN? >> >>I'm using Smoothwall gateway, a cut-down version of Linux, installs in >>15min. on a spare P100/32MB PC. Haven't setup the VPN side of it yet, >>though. >> >>What are you using for a http & DNS cache or don't you bother? >> >> >>Graham Norton wrote: >> >> >>> we now have VPN setup on the server and now that I have broad band at home, have the VPN via Injoy Firewall/gateway - >>>seems very stable ! >>> SNIP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:10:41 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al ** Reply to note from Daryl Pilkington Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:26:11 +1100 > What do you mean by "If the Win Boxen can see the OS/2 fax object". > The version of PMfax I've used doesn't have NT or W2k clients. > I've emailed CDS, there was nothing about ordering Windows clients on > their web-site. the windoze client comes with PMfax LAN only. I think you can kinda make it work without it if "If the Win Boxen can see the OS/2 fax object" Voytek Eymont ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:15:54 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al ** Reply to note from "Graham Norton" Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:07:25 +1050 (CDT) > I tried the fax to email in PMFax -LAN and it works but I hardly ever needed > it and it seemed 'silly' - its attached as an image file > and thus can be potentially big... it's extremely usefull for distributing inbound faxes, or scanned docs, how else will you do that if not as an image file ? and, the TIFF-F fax docs are reasonably size efficient, considering they're bit mapp images and, considerably cheaper when sending docs long distance. so, yes, in many situations it can be quite advantageous Voytek Eymont ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:27:05 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al ** Reply to note from "Graham Norton" Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:07:25 +1050 (CDT) > I tried the fax to email in PMFax -LAN and it works but I hardly ever needed > it and it seemed 'silly' - its attached as an image file > and thus can be potentially big.. after I sent the email, I looked at my log, and, it just reminded me of one of the uses I use it for every month: I use it to distribute inbound correspondence to Body Corp Exec C'ttee: whenever the Managing Agent gets correspondence, he faxes it to me, I then -E-fax to the memmbers of the Exec C'tee. and, if the corresponence gets dropped to me, just CopyShop it to PMfax. (yes, after all these years, Copy Shop/2 and PMfax, what a combo, thanks, Paul Balme, Dan Keller, Mark Ahlstrom, if only more software was as good as yours......) yes... Voytek Eymont ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:45:45 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al ** Reply to note from "Graham Norton" Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:07:25 +1050 (CDT) > its attached as an image file > and thus can be potentially big... and, talking about sizes: this is REAL and happened to me just two days ago: a prospective client sent some work proposal. whilst I normally refuse to open word docs, and, I do not have word, I do not refuse to open word docs from prospective paying client anyhow, I see there is a 10MB email on my server with word docs in it, even if I download it on the 33.6 modem, I do not have word, anyhow so, I went to a friend's place, used his adsl/windoze pc to d/l the email the 10MB email contained several word docs, one was about 5MB; after I opened it, it has ONE PAGE, 5 LINES, one photo..... anyhow, after I saved all the word docs as text: 0[roman][F:\work\....\text]dir *.doc The volume label in drive F is JFSData. The Volume Serial Number is 13E5:85C1. Directory of F:\work\....\text 03-11-26 7:19 19968 0 au 03-11-26 7:19 2040320 0 GO 03-11-26 7:19 3601920 0 in 03-11-26 7:19 19968 0 PE 03-11-26 7:19 49152 0 po 03-11-26 7:19 19456 0 po 03-11-26 7:19 1142784 0 po 03-11-26 7:20 1922048 0 Pr 03-11-26 7:20 27136 0 Wi 03-11-26 7:20 22016 0 wi 10 file(s) 8864768 bytes used 501604352 bytes free 0[roman][F:\work\...\text]dir *.txt The volume label in drive F is JFSData. The Volume Serial Number is 13E5:85C1. Directory of F:\work\...\text 03-11-26 7:19 716 0 au 03-11-26 7:19 282 0 GO 03-11-26 7:19 293 0 in 03-11-26 7:19 284 0 PE 03-11-26 7:19 2107 0 po 03-11-26 7:19 487 0 po 03-11-26 7:19 123 0 po 03-11-26 7:20 2323 0 Pr 03-11-26 7:20 1572 0 Wi 03-11-26 7:20 1723 0 wi 10 file(s) 9910 bytes used 501604352 bytes free 9910 bytes of information masquarading as 8MB (plus MIME overhead) Voytek Eymont ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:06:22 +1100 (AEDT) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:26:11 +1100, Daryl Pilkington wrote: >Hi John, >What do you mean by "If the Win Boxen can see the OS/2 fax object". I mean that in a peer network can the Windows machines send a job to the OS/2 object? For my limited purposes here, I can fax from a Win-OS2 program by "printing" to LPT3.OS2 (where I have a suitable "printer" connected eg. IBM Proprinter or Laserjet). The PM-Fax driver in OS/2 picks the job up from LPT3 and faxes it for me. >The version of PMfax I've used doesn't have NT or W2k clients. >I've emailed CDS, there was nothing about ordering Windows clients on >their web-site. I don't know a lot about the LAN-enabled version of PM-Fax, or the Windows port called Prima Fax, but I would imagine that they are standalone apps, not a client-server pair. However, they don't need to be c/s - they only need the ability to feed a faxable document from the Prima Fax in Windows on the Win machine to the PM-Fax object on OS/2 where your fax-modem sits (or vice versa), so that the fax can be sent. I expect this is the equivalent of sending a print job from a Win machine across a LAN to an OS/2 printer. Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG talldad at kepl dot com dot au ________________________ >John Angelico wrote: > >> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:07:01 +1100, Daryl Pilkington wrote: >> >> >>>Q6: >>>What fax server software is available for WS4eB that will integrate with >>>email & also W2k & WinXP clients? >>>I'd like incoming faxes to be manually routed to email & W2k & WinXP >>>clients to seamlessly fax to the LAN. >> >> >> If the Win boxen can see the OS/2 fax object, then I suggest the PM-Fax LaN >> product. This also has Fax-To-Email functions which I have never used >> (address a fax to an email address and it will drop the fax as an >> attachment to an email into your outbox.) >> >> Start at www.cds-inc dot com as PM-Fax formerly Faxworks for OS/2 is now a part >> of the BackAgain stable. There is also a Win version called PrimaFax. >> >SNIP > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:12:57 +1100 (EST) From: voytek at sbt dot net dot au Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al > I don't know a lot about the LAN-enabled version of PM-Fax, or the Windows > port called Prima Fax, but I would imagine that they are standalone apps, > not a client-server pair. However, they don't need to be c/s - they only > need the ability to feed a faxable document from the Prima Fax in Windows > on the Win machine to the PM-Fax object on OS/2 where your fax-modem sits > (or vice versa), so that the fax can be sent. AFAIR, PMfax client talks named pipes to PMfax server ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 14 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:33:23 +1100 From: Daryl Pilkington Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al Thanks John, My needs definitely need the LAN version:- 2 floors of PCs, with full ability to route, view & control incoming/outgoing faxes. I don't believe what your suggesting will allow this all from the one desktop. Seemless doesn't mean running over to another computer to control/send the fax, (I think this is what you are doing). From the Windoze box, how to you add the addressee name & fax # to the print job? Resourceful idea in a SOHO environment though. John Angelico wrote: > On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:26:11 +1100, Daryl Pilkington wrote: > > >>Hi John, >>What do you mean by "If the Win Boxen can see the OS/2 fax object". > > > I mean that in a peer network can the Windows machines send a job to the > OS/2 object? > > For my limited purposes here, I can fax from a Win-OS2 program by > "printing" to LPT3.OS2 (where I have a suitable "printer" connected eg. IBM > Proprinter or Laserjet). The PM-Fax driver in OS/2 picks the job up from > LPT3 and faxes it for me. > > SNIP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 15 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:15:03 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Printer Drivers HP Laserjet 6L Separator Page OK, What happens if you copy a text file (eg CONFIG.SYS) to LPT1: ?? If the "separator page" still comes out, it's something in the printer - pull out the manual and go through every setting on the printers menu panels. If it doesn't come out, delete and re-install the printer. By default separator pages are turned off when you install a new printer. I suspect that it's actually something on the printer. Cheers/2 Ed. Alan Heiser wrote: > Direct via LPT1 > > Alan > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:36:07 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: > > >Printing direct to the printer via LPD or via a server ?? > > > >Cheers/2 > > > >Ed. > > > >Alan Heiser wrote: > > > >> For some reason my printer has decided to print a page outlining the print job > before > >> actually printing the job. This appears to be a separator page as set in print options > of > >> the printer properties notebook. But there is no separator file specified at that place. > In > >> fact, specifying a separator file means the specified file only is printed. > >> > >> Looking at a print job as a metafile does not show a separator file, so it is something > >> the printer is setting between spooling the job and actually printing it. > >> > >> Very annoying, and I can find no way of switching it off. > >> > >> Printer is HP Laserjet 6L and printer driver is LASERJET.HP Laserjet 6L and the > >> version is the one that came with the ECS 1.1 (Version 30.778). OS is of course ECS > 1.1 > >> > >> Any suggestions? > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Alan > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 16 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:36:19 +1100 (AEDT) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:33:23 +1100, Daryl Pilkington wrote: >Thanks John, No worries. >My needs definitely need the LAN version:- 2 floors of PCs, with full >ability to route, view & control incoming/outgoing faxes. Good-oh. The over 100 terminals version for you then? Probably using a dedicated fax server, too. >I don't believe what your suggesting will allow this all from the one >desktop. Seemless doesn't mean running over to another computer to >control/send the fax, (I think this is what you are doing). No the program should do that. > > From the Windoze box, how to you add the addressee name & fax # to the >print job? Using keywords or symbols in the originating document. Part of the software setup retrieves the data from the job stream. >Resourceful idea in a SOHO environment though. What I have is the single user version PM-Fax, and yes it's fine for SOHO. But the LAN version scales up well I believe. Sorry to say I have exhausted my memory and reading of the manual, but still think it would suit your task, so I reckon it's time to get onto CDS Inc website again. Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG talldad at kepl dot com dot au ________________________ >John Angelico wrote: >> On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:26:11 +1100, Daryl Pilkington wrote: >> >> >>>Hi John, >>>What do you mean by "If the Win Boxen can see the OS/2 fax object". >> >> >> I mean that in a peer network can the Windows machines send a job to the >> OS/2 object? >> >> For my limited purposes here, I can fax from a Win-OS2 program by >> "printing" to LPT3.OS2 (where I have a suitable "printer" connected eg. IBM >> Proprinter or Laserjet). The PM-Fax driver in OS/2 picks the job up from >> LPT3 and faxes it for me. >> >> >SNIP > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 17 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:00:27 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Cheap OS/2 compatible digital camera Yes I got one. I ended up paying $150 including courier delivery. Others may strike a better deal, this was my first attempt on eBAY - I was (and still am) looking for a Hauppage WinTV PVR 250 or 350 card and came across this camera. Base, 2.1 MP, output 3 MP (or so it says). 4 times digital zoom only - no optical zoom unfortunately. 8MB built in memory plus it takes a SD or MMC type mempry expansion card - I think these exist up to 256MB now. Cheers/2 Ed. Voytek Eymont wrote: > ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:52:25 +1100 > > > If anyone is interested. A Sydney importer is selling several EMPREX > > DSC 2200V digital still / short movie 2.1 / 3 (interpolated) MP > > did you get one ? > > so, it's 2MP with no zoom, how much memory ? what type of memory ? > > Voytek Eymont > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 18 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:01:52 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al Perhaps you should look at Communigate Pro from Stalker Software for the Fax (and other) needs Daryl ? I have some brochures from Warpstock. Cheers/2 Ed. Daryl Pilkington wrote: > Thanks John, > My needs definitely need the LAN version:- 2 floors of PCs, with full > ability to route, view & control incoming/outgoing faxes. > I don't believe what your suggesting will allow this all from the one > desktop. Seemless doesn't mean running over to another computer to > control/send the fax, (I think this is what you are doing). > > From the Windoze box, how to you add the addressee name & fax # to the > print job? > > Resourceful idea in a SOHO environment though. > > John Angelico wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:26:11 +1100, Daryl Pilkington wrote: > > > > > >>Hi John, > >>What do you mean by "If the Win Boxen can see the OS/2 fax object". > > > > > > I mean that in a peer network can the Windows machines send a job to the > > OS/2 object? > > > > For my limited purposes here, I can fax from a Win-OS2 program by > > "printing" to LPT3.OS2 (where I have a suitable "printer" connected eg. IBM > > Proprinter or Laserjet). The PM-Fax driver in OS/2 picks the job up from > > LPT3 and faxes it for me. > > > > > SNIP > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 19 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:02:47 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al ** Reply to note from Daryl Pilkington Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:33:23 +1100 > My needs definitely need the LAN version:- 2 floors of PCs, with full > ability to route, view & control incoming/outgoing faxes. > I don't believe what your suggesting will allow this all from the one > desktop. Seemless doesn't mean running over to another computer to > control/send the fax, (I think this is what you are doing). > > From the Windoze box, how to you add the addressee name & fax # to the > print job? > > Resourceful idea in a SOHO environment though. yes, you're absolutely correct: it's a poor man's PMfax lan version, it will kinda work as a LAN product, but LAN fax it isn't Voytek Eymont ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 20 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:10:47 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al ** Reply to note from "John Angelico" Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:36:19 +1100 (AEDT) > Using keywords or symbols in the originating document. Part of the software > setup retrieves the data from the job stream. John, that will only work if you're sending an ascii data stream, you can then use the Keller PMfax command language, if you're sending a binary data stream, like, from a wordprocessor, that can not be done. it kinda could be done with the ggs files, though, none of this is a substitution for the PMfax LAN product Voytek Eymont ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 21 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:22:56 +1100 From: Daryl Pilkington Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al Well, there are ONLY 12 PCs over 2 floors. We'll have 2 WAN users in the future. AOpen minitower case GA-6VEML Gigabyte mobo Celeron 733MHz CPU 256MB RAM SDRAM PC133 RTL8100L Realtek onboard NIC 400g Intel Satisfaxtion fax card. WD1200JB 120GB 8MB cache 7200rpm IDE HDD, (2 units, software mirroring) Gives SCSI a run for its money for storage/performance cost. Each drive mirrors the other: c: 386HPFS Fault Tolerance for OS d: 386HPFS Fault Tolerance for swap, temp spool e: JFS VRAID for data Might put a 3Com Fast Etherlink NIC in, see if there is a performance improvement with so few users compared to the RTL8100L. Running: WS4eB CP2FP3 Network Applications Printer driver synchronisation Replicator Network time sync, (syncs server time with Internet) Backagain/2 Pro v4 PMCron PMfax LAN Backup done on CP2FP3 workstation with RSJ 5.03 Pioneer 106D DVD Writer Princo Ver1.1 1-2X speed DVD-RW media used for backing-up. John Angelico wrote: > On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:33:23 +1100, Daryl Pilkington wrote: > SNIP > > Good-oh. The over 100 terminals version for you then? Probably using a > dedicated fax server, too. > SNIP > > Using keywords or symbols in the originating document. Part of the software > setup retrieves the data from the job stream. > > SNIP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 22 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:32:49 +1100 From: Daryl Pilkington Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al Thanks Ed, Lots of Internet features but nothing about faxing on their web-site. Is that a new module that you have information on? Just scan & convert the brochure to a *.pdf & email it to me. Ed Durrant wrote: > Perhaps you should look at Communigate Pro from Stalker Software for the Fax (and > other) needs Daryl ? I have some brochures from Warpstock. > SNIP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 23 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:37:00 +1100 (AEDT) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:10:47, Voytek Eymont wrote: >** Reply to note from "John Angelico" Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:36:19 +1100 (AEDT) > > >> Using keywords or symbols in the originating document. Part of the software >> setup retrieves the data from the job stream. > >John, > >that will only work if you're sending an ascii data stream, you can then use >the Keller PMfax command language, > >if you're sending a binary data stream, like, from a wordprocessor, that can >not be done. it kinda could be done with the ggs files, though, none of this >is a substitution for the PMfax LAN product > Yes, Voytek, that's where my knowledge runs out and why I "sent" Daryl back to the cds-inc website. As I read the PM-Fax LAN pages, there are tools and features which simple PM-Fax doesn't have. Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 24 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:46:47 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al Dont have Evermore EIO or Open Office dot org running on OS/2 yet so can't produce PDF files. The use to support incoming/outgoing faxes to/from internal e-mails was mentioned at Warpstock, I thought it was part of the base system but you could be correct that it's an add-on. Why not send them an e-mail and ask ? Or simply try it out - it's on your CD. Cheers/2 Ed. Daryl Pilkington wrote: > Thanks Ed, > Lots of Internet features but nothing about faxing on their web-site. > Is that a new module that you have information on? > Just scan & convert the brochure to a *.pdf & email it to me. > > Ed Durrant wrote: > > > Perhaps you should look at Communigate Pro from Stalker Software for the Fax (and > > other) needs Daryl ? I have some brochures from Warpstock. > > > SNIP > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 25 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:43:09 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: Cheap OS/2 compatible digital camera ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:00:27 +1100 > Base, 2.1 MP, output 3 MP (or so it says). > > 4 times digital zoom only - no optical zoom unfortunately. yes, well, optical zoom is zoom, digital zoom, hmmm, one might as well say it's a 100 x zoom, or, 1000 x, or... pixzelization ? just a by product... still for 150$, sounds OK. > 8MB built in memory plus it takes a SD or MMC type mempry expansion card - I think these exist > up to 256MB now. tell me, to read these little 'USB memeory sticks' on OS/2, do I just need the latest USB drivers ? can the memeory sticks be hot plugged ? can these SD/MMC card be plugged into OS/2 ? whilst on the USB: does any one knows if a Palm can be synced via USB ? 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