From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 00:04:03 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 735 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Sunday 30 November 2003 Number 735 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Firebird : 2 Re: Firebird : David Forrester" 3 IBM release another X-Series server pre-installed with OS/2 : Ed Durrant 4 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : Daryl Pilkington 5 Re: Firebird : Voytek Eymont 6 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : Voytek Eymont 7 Re: IBM release another X-Series server pre-installed with OS/2 : Voytek Eymont 8 Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al : Daryl Pilkington **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:55:43 -1000 From: Subject: Firebird What is the trick for running Firebird I downloaded it and uncompressed it then double clicked the firebird.exe icon, and all I get is the properties notebook. That normaly indicates that some dll or other component can't be found. Regards Dennis. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:02:23 +1100 (EDT) From: "David Forrester" Subject: Re: Firebird On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:55:43 -1000, denny at alphalink dot com dot au wrote: >What is the trick for running Firebird > >I downloaded it and uncompressed it then double clicked the firebird.exe >icon, and all I get is the properties notebook. >That normaly indicates that some dll or other component can't be found. The trick is to read and make sure you have the GCC runtime. -- David Forrester davidfor at internode.on dot net http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:36:42 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: IBM release another X-Series server pre-installed with OS/2 As an upgrade to the 2074-002 terminal controller (X-series model 342 based, capacity of 64 old 3174 controllers), the 2074-003 terminal controller is now available based on the X-Series 235 (tower or rack mountable) server with an increased capacity of replacing up to 96 old 3174 controllers. Both of these models come pre-installed with OS/2 Warp Server for e-Business with Communications Server/2. This is a specific, customised version of OS/2 rather than a general purpose server, however to someone who knows OS/2, the differences are minor. With the release letter for the 2074-003 IBM make it clear that the system is OS/2 based, where this was not so clear with the -002 model. IBM needed a product to replace their old 3174 terminal controllers, that better suited the new IP-LAN based environment that we have today, while still communicating back to the SNA world of mainframes. Rather than produce a new custom product that would be more difficult to build and support, IBM decided to look at what standard components that they already sell may be able to be used to create a powerful, cheap replacement for single or multiple 3174 terminal controllers. The X-Series range of Intel based servers was a cheaper option than the Risc based IBM systems and as for software, well IBM support Linux, unfortunately Linux doesn't support SNA very well, if at all. Microsoft's SNA server may be an option, but that would cost licensing fees and would probably not fit well into a 24x7 environment due to the regular security patches and reboots required to keep the system protected from hackers and viruses. Well open minds as well as open source, a look at the IBM Software catalogue, shows that IBM still markets and supports OS/2 Warp Server for e-business and Websphere Communications Server/2. Add to this OS/2's native support of ESCON cards (required to connect back to the mainframe ultra-high speed channel attachments) and a workable, cheap, stable, reliable design exists for this business critical application ! This also means that drivers required to support either the earlier X-342 or current X-235 under OS/2 are also available for more general purpose OS/2 Warp Server for e-Business implementations of this hardware, even though they may not list OS/2 as a supported Operating System in their product information. There are many articles on the IBM Websites, this one gives a good overview of this new system - released at the end of October this year. http://www-3.ibm dot com/fcgi-bin/common/ssi/ssialias?infotype=an&subtype=ca&supplier=897&appname=IBMLinkRedirect&letternum=ENUS103-335 (Note: if the URL is truncated across two email lines, you probably will not be able to simply click the link, but will need to cut and paste it into your browser). Cheers/2 Ed. **************************************************************************** > > NOTE: If transferring this post to another Newslist - please include > the following text: > > This information was first posted on the OS2GENAU newslist at > www. - the Australian OS/2 portal. OS/2 alive and kicking > like a kangaroo down-under in Australia ! > Why not join the OS2GENAU list, simply go to > http://www.os2site.com/list/index.html to register ! > **************************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 13:45:07 +1100 From: Daryl Pilkington Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al Hi Voytek, Because you end-up with a pile of TIFF files that are a PITA to individually read. With a *.pdf, its just 1 file, double click & your pdf viewer reads them. voytek at sbt dot net dot au wrote: >>Hi Ed, >>PMPDF will create PDFs, just use Copyshop, Imagescan/2 or Tame/2 to >>"print" to the PDF printer. Exactly the same sort of process as faxing >>to PMfax. > > > if it's a bit map image, why would you bother to PDF....? > just scan to PMfax, and, that's it, bit pointless to go past that... SNIP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:43:54 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: Firebird ** Reply to note from Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:55:43 -1000 > I downloaded it and uncompressed it then double clicked the firebird.exe > icon, and all I get is the properties notebook. > That normaly indicates that some dll or other component can't be found. if you execute from command line, it should tell you what's missing. also, the readme on the firebird web sute has the required info, sorry, I no longer recall what it was firebird runs just fine, except, my biigest problem with it, if I select a URL from command history, it screws up the url... Voytek Eymont ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:19:33 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al ** Reply to note from Daryl Pilkington Sun, 30 Nov 2003 13:45:07 +1100 > Because you end-up with a pile of TIFF files that are a PITA to > individually read. With a *.pdf, its just 1 file, double click & your > pdf viewer reads them. Daryl pile of TIFF files....? how do you manage that ? TIFF-F is multi page TIFF file, as used by PMfax, as well, AFAIK, it is the industry standard for doc imaging. with scanned tiff file, it's just one file, dble click, and, in 1/10 of the time that it takes acrobat to start, you view the files in PMfax, (or, a varirty of other viewers) and, you can, anotate them, and, the quality is better. Voytek Eymont ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:23:39 From: Voytek Eymont Subject: Re: IBM release another X-Series server pre-installed with OS/2 ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:36:42 +1100 > Well open minds as well as open source, a look at the IBM Software > catalogue, shows that IBM still markets and supports OS/2 Warp Server > for e-business and Websphere Communications Server/2. Add to this > OS/2's native support of ESCON cards (required to connect back to the > mainframe ultra-high speed channel attachments) and a workable, cheap, > stable, reliable design exists for this business critical application > ! This also means that drivers required to support either the earlier > X-342 or current X-235 under OS/2 are also available for more general > purpose OS/2 Warp Server for e-Business implementations of this > hardware, even though they may not list OS/2 as a supported Operating > System in their product information. Ed, I recently looked at the Mac OSX, as I needed to do some work with them, not sure if you know it, but, the OSX is a Unix system with an Apple Mac windowing on top. and, then I thought: if IBM loaded WPS as module on *nix, wouldn't that be something... wishfull thinking, I guess, but, probably the only way I can see forward for OS/2 pity it will never happen Voytek Eymont ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:17:30 +1100 From: Daryl Pilkington Subject: Re: WS4eB: network applications et-al Which industry? I've used a tiff file about 5 times in the last 5 years. Wouldn't know what to do with one if it hit me. These days people send documents around as *.pdf How would you make a multipage tiff file? Could you use CopyShop/2 ImageScan/2 or TAME/2 Voytek Eymont wrote: SNIP > Daryl > > pile of TIFF files....? how do you manage that ? TIFF-F is multi page TIFF file, as used by PMfax, as > well, AFAIK, it is the industry standard for doc imaging. > > with scanned tiff file, it's just one file, dble click, and, in 1/10 of the time that it takes > acrobat to start, you view the files in PMfax, (or, a varirty of other viewers) > and, you can, anotate them, > and, the quality is better. > > > > Voytek Eymont > > > . > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------