From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 00:01:02 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 826 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Sunday 04 April 2004 Number 826 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Telstra Bigpond and Port 25 : David Shearer 2 Re: Telstra Bigpond and Port 25 : Daryl Pilkington 3 Re: Telstra Bigpond and Port 25 : Ed Durrant 4 Re: Telstra Bigpond and Port 25 : David Shearer" 5 Re: Telstra Bigpond and Port 25 : David Forrester" 6 Re: Telstra Bigpond and Port 25 : Ian Manners" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 17:04:13 +1100 From: David Shearer Subject: Telstra Bigpond and Port 25 Telstra Bigpond have just advised that port 25 will nol onger be active for outgoing mail using SMTP protocol. I am using PMMail and am wondering how I should configure it now. Can you just leave it as no port or just select another one? I have sent Telstra an email but I am not clear they will be able to help. In Mozilla you can setup SMTP without a port (I presume and it works i have tried it). Anyone an email expert & can help me David ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 17:32:39 +1000 From: Daryl Pilkington Subject: Re: Telstra Bigpond and Port 25 David Shearer wrote: > Telstra Bigpond have just advised that port 25 will nol onger be active > for outgoing mail using SMTP protocol. > > I am using PMMail and am wondering how I should configure it now. Can > you just leave it as no port or just > select another one? I have sent Telstra an email but I am not clear > they will be able to help. In Mozilla you > can setup SMTP without a port (I presume and it works i have tried it). > > Anyone an email expert & can help me > Don't worry about it Dave, This will only affect you if you are running your own SMTP server, which from the sounds of it you are not. Just configure PMMail to use Telstra's mail server: Broadband: mail-hub.bigpond dot net dot au Dialup, ISDN, Satellite: mail.bigpond dot com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 18:28:24 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Telstra Bigpond and Port 25 Hi David, Can you please tell me where this was announced and which services are affected as this would be a breach of contract from the Telstra (Bigpond - Business) side if they implement it. Telstra Broadband business accounts have always allowed the running of servers on customers premesis. It's one of the advantages of going for a business service rather than their home service. Cheers/2 Ed. David Shearer wrote: > Telstra Bigpond have just advised that port 25 will nol onger be active > for outgoing mail using SMTP protocol. > > I am using PMMail and am wondering how I should configure it now. Can > you just leave it as no port or just > select another one? I have sent Telstra an email but I am not clear > they will be able to help. In Mozilla you > can setup SMTP without a port (I presume and it works i have tried it). > > Anyone an email expert & can help me > > David > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 18:54:57 +1000 From: "David Shearer" Subject: Re: Telstra Bigpond and Port 25 Ed - the following is the email received from Telstra. Apparently business users can still use the static IP service. But it costs more. I was only wondering about it as PMMail uses port 25 in teh send mail configuration. David Dear BigPond member, Good news: BigPond is making life tougher for Spammers. Around 60% of all email on BigPond is Spam - and we're committed to stamping it out, so that you can enjoy a faster, cleaner email system. In addition to our Spam Filter service, we're launching new anti-spam initiatives. The first step is the closure of Port 25 on 13th April 2004. Although some businesses use Port 25 to run their own email systems, spammers also use it to send Spam disguised as normal emails. Shutting down Port 25 will stop this kind of spamming. For more details on this initiative, please click here: http://bigpond.custhelp dot com/cgi-bin/bigpond.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=5562 If you are a business or specialist who uses Port 25 to send legitimate emails, simply select one of these Static IP services for your needs before April 13th: BigPond Static IP for ADSL http://www.bigpond dot com/internet-plans/additional/staticip/default.asp BigPond Business Executive http://www.bigpond dot com/internet-plans/dialup/business/executive/ You can look forward to us making life even harder for spammers in the near future. We'll be sure to notify you of further changes as they are introduced. Yours sincerely, The BigPond Team On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 18:28:24 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote: >Hi David, > > Can you please tell me where this was announced and which services are affected as >this would be a breach of contract from the Telstra (Bigpond - Business) side if they >implement it. Telstra Broadband business accounts have always allowed the running of >servers on customers premesis. It's one of the advantages of going for a business >service rather than their home service. > >Cheers/2 > >Ed. > >David Shearer wrote: > >> Telstra Bigpond have just advised that port 25 will nol onger be active >> for outgoing mail using SMTP protocol. >> >> I am using PMMail and am wondering how I should configure it now. Can >> you just leave it as no port or just >> select another one? I have sent Telstra an email but I am not clear >> they will be able to help. In Mozilla you >> can setup SMTP without a port (I presume and it works i have tried it). >> >> Anyone an email expert & can help me >> >> David >> > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 19:16:37 +1000 (EST) From: "David Forrester" Subject: Re: Telstra Bigpond and Port 25 On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 18:28:24 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote: > Can you please tell me where this was announced and which services are affected as >this would be a breach of contract from the Telstra (Bigpond - Business) side if they >implement it. Telstra Broadband business accounts have always allowed the running of >servers on customers premesis. It's one of the advantages of going for a business >service rather than their home service. > It doesn't affect me as I use a different ISP, but, there's a discussion at Whirlpool about it: Personally, I think the best responce to this is to get a new ISP. -- David Forrester davidfor at internode.on dot net http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 23:12:15 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: Telstra Bigpond and Port 25 Hi David Personally, I think its a good idea, as is refusing email from any source that doesnt resolve back to an MX, which is my prefered option, and one I enforce. MS doesnt like the the last bit, as half there servers connected with passport services dont resolve, let alone resolve back to an MX, On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 19:16:37 +1000 (EST), David Forrester wrote: > On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 18:28:24 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote: > > > Can you please tell me where this was announced and which services are affected as > >this would be a breach of contract from the Telstra (Bigpond - Business) side if they > >implement it. Telstra Broadband business accounts have always allowed the running of > >servers on customers premesis. It's one of the advantages of going for a business > >service rather than their home service. > > > > It doesn't affect me as I use a different ISP, but, there's a > discussion at Whirlpool about it: > > > Personally, I think the best responce to this is to get a new ISP. > > -- > David Forrester > davidfor at internode.on dot net > http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/ > > Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------