From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 00:01:07 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 865 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Friday 28 May 2004 Number 865 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Firefox 0.8/Thunderbird 0.6 : Daryl Pilkington 2 FINAL and solution on Thinkpad 390E : Robert Traynor (BobT)" 3 Re: FINAL and solution on Thinkpad 390E : Daryl Pilkington 4 Re: FINAL and solution on Thinkpad 390E : John Angelico" 5 Re: FINAL and solution on Thinkpad 390E : Ed Durrant 6 Lexmark P707 Printer now AUS$50,-- at Coles Norwest. : Ed Durrant 7 Re: FINAL and solution on Thinkpad 390E : Daryl Pilkington 8 Re: Lexmark P707 Printer now AUS$50,-- at Coles Norwest. : Daryl Pilkington 9 Re: FINAL and solution on Thinkpad 390E : John Angelico" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 09:28:24 +1000 From: Daryl Pilkington Subject: Firefox 0.8/Thunderbird 0.6 Hi all, Do these versions co-exist together? I am aware versions don't, what about these? Can I use libc05 for both? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 12:22:23 +1000 From: "Robert Traynor (BobT)" Subject: FINAL and solution on Thinkpad 390E Hi ALL. The John's 390e IBM laptop network problem has been solved with the help of this site:- September 2003 Voice http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0903H/vnewsf5.htm Half way down the page there is the exact same problem and its solution. The Pc Card (pcmcia) software supplied with eCS 1.1 (as supplied in fact by IBM) is NOT BACKWARD COMPATIBLE. The solution is to install eCS 1.1 and select the Pc Card services and the correct Pcmcia network card, and after the installation finishes, THEN install the OLD DRIVERS from the IBM ThinkPad site. Oh, and ED, even with a BIOS upgrade, this 390e ThinkPad still does not have an AUTO setting on the IRQ assignments for the PCI slots. I arbitrarily set the PCI slot IRQ's slot 1 to 4 to 11,10,9,5 respectively. I turned off the serial ports and the InfraRed port as not required. With the exception of the in built 33.6 Lucent (WinModem) all is working. I will let John sort out the WinModem if he wants it to work. (Note legacy modem selected in bios and port set to com1 IRQ 4 3F8. 390e lucent driver recognises the modem and bios setting but cannot find a file called LTEEPROM.DAT. this file is supposed to be located in the root directory of the boot drive.) I will be giving the laptop back to John when i have finished doing some testing. Regards, Robert Traynor (BobT). 28 May 2004 12:21 On Thu, 20 May 2004 09:42:09 +1000, Robert Traynor (BobT) wrote: > John, > A suggestion. > > With the following recommendations: > 1. Update the 390E laptop bios. > 2. Use the Bios settings that work properly under windows 98se. > 3. Re-install eCS (after reformatting the partition). > > And have a look at the following web site: > http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0903H/vnewsf5.htm > > Specifically half way down "F. IBM Notebook PCMCIA Support" > or at this exact image url:- > http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0903H/HardwareConfig.jpg > > > Regards, > Robert Traynor (BobT). > 20 May 2004 9:32 ,-._|\ Robert Traynor (BobT) / Oz \ email rtraynor at removeme.optusnet dot com dot au \_,--.x/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 17:19:53 +1000 From: Daryl Pilkington Subject: Re: FINAL and solution on Thinkpad 390E Robert Traynor (BobT) wrote: > Hi ALL, SNIP > With the exception of the in built 33.6 Lucent (WinModem) all is working. > I will let John sort out the WinModem if he wants it to work. > (Note legacy modem selected in bios and port set to com1 IRQ 4 3F8. > 390e lucent driver recognises the modem and bios setting but cannot > find a file called LTEEPROM.DAT. this file is supposed to be located in > the root directory of the boot drive.) > SNIP I've seen this problem, I think the solution is to install the windows driver under windows, find the lteeprom.dat file & put it in the root directory. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 17:43:50 +1000 (AEST) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: FINAL and solution on Thinkpad 390E On Fri, 28 May 2004 17:19:53 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote: Hi Daryl. >Robert Traynor (BobT) wrote: > >> Hi ALL, >SNIP > > With the exception of the in built 33.6 Lucent (WinModem) all is >working. >> I will let John sort out the WinModem if he wants it to work. >> (Note legacy modem selected in bios and port set to com1 IRQ 4 3F8. >> 390e lucent driver recognises the modem and bios setting but cannot >> find a file called LTEEPROM.DAT. this file is supposed to be located in >> the root directory of the boot drive.) >> >SNIP >I've seen this problem, I think the solution is to install the windows >driver under windows, find the lteeprom.dat file & put it in the root >directory. Ta. Will I find that in *any* laptop install of Windows, or must I find it for the 390E specifically? And if I want eCS to run on the 390E exclusively (ie. without a Win98 anywhere) does this little program or file actually *do* anything, or is it there for window-decoration? Alternatively, is it a DOS-level program that we can use under eCS? Sorry to sound cynical, but... Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 21:22:15 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: FINAL and solution on Thinkpad 390E Hi Robert. Well done on finding the problems ! By the way the Lucent modem u\in Thinkpad 390's do work under Os/2 but usually only at 28.8kb/s, the OS/2 driver was never updated to 33.6 I think. But unless you have a perfect phone line connection I suspect you wont notice mi\uch difference between the speeds ! Cheers/2 Ed. "Robert Traynor (BobT)" wrote: > Hi ALL. > > The John's 390e IBM laptop network problem has been solved with > the help of this site:- > > September 2003 Voice > http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0903H/vnewsf5.htm > > Half way down the page there is the exact same problem and its solution. > The Pc Card (pcmcia) software supplied with eCS 1.1 (as supplied in fact > by IBM) is NOT BACKWARD COMPATIBLE. > > The solution is to install eCS 1.1 and select the Pc Card services and the > correct Pcmcia network card, and after the installation finishes, THEN > install the OLD DRIVERS from the IBM ThinkPad site. > > Oh, and ED, even with a BIOS upgrade, this 390e ThinkPad still > does not have an AUTO setting on the IRQ assignments for the PCI > slots. > > I arbitrarily set the PCI slot IRQ's slot 1 to 4 to 11,10,9,5 respectively. > I turned off the serial ports and the InfraRed port as not required. > > With the exception of the in built 33.6 Lucent (WinModem) all is working. > I will let John sort out the WinModem if he wants it to work. > (Note legacy modem selected in bios and port set to com1 IRQ 4 3F8. > 390e lucent driver recognises the modem and bios setting but cannot > find a file called LTEEPROM.DAT. this file is supposed to be located in > the root directory of the boot drive.) > > I will be giving the laptop back to John when i have finished doing > some testing. > > Regards, > Robert Traynor (BobT). > 28 May 2004 12:21 > > On Thu, 20 May 2004 09:42:09 +1000, Robert Traynor (BobT) wrote: > > John, > > A suggestion. > > > > With the following recommendations: > > 1. Update the 390E laptop bios. > > 2. Use the Bios settings that work properly under windows 98se. > > 3. Re-install eCS (after reformatting the partition). > > > > And have a look at the following web site: > > http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0903H/vnewsf5.htm > > > > Specifically half way down "F. IBM Notebook PCMCIA Support" > > or at this exact image url:- > > http://www.os2voice dot org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0903H/HardwareConfig.jpg > > > > > > Regards, > > Robert Traynor (BobT). > > 20 May 2004 9:32 > > ,-._|\ Robert Traynor (BobT) > / Oz \ email rtraynor at removeme.optusnet dot com dot au > \_,--.x/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 21:32:08 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Lexmark P707 Printer now AUS$50,-- at Coles Norwest. I went into the supermarket today and the printer that I had previously seen first at $79 and then $69 has now been reduced to $50. The same printer from major computer retailers is between $150 and $180. It's actually cheaper to buy this printer than replacment cartridges for my Epson 680 (when I can get them). The spec for this printer is the following: USB attached 17 ppm black and 10 ppm colour 6 colour capable. 4800 x 1200 dpi max resolution. Built in card reader to allow printing direct from all common camera memory cards (and IBM microdrive!). EXif print compatible - anyone know what EXif is ?? OF COURSE no OS/2 drivers but I intend to try using Win32PRN that uses Odin to run Win32 printer drivers under OS/2 - the latest version sounds quite hopeful. wish me luck ! If not, the wife gets a new printer on her Windoze machine and I get her old (6 months ?) HP printer that has OS/2 drivers. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 22:43:12 +1000 From: Daryl Pilkington Subject: Re: FINAL and solution on Thinkpad 390E John Angelico wrote: > On Fri, 28 May 2004 17:19:53 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote: > > Hi Daryl. > > >>Robert Traynor (BobT) wrote: >> >> >>>Hi ALL, >> >>SNIP >> > With the exception of the in built 33.6 Lucent (WinModem) all is >>working. >> >>>I will let John sort out the WinModem if he wants it to work. >>>(Note legacy modem selected in bios and port set to com1 IRQ 4 3F8. >>>390e lucent driver recognises the modem and bios setting but cannot >>>find a file called LTEEPROM.DAT. this file is supposed to be located in >>>the root directory of the boot drive.) >>> >> >>SNIP >>I've seen this problem, I think the solution is to install the windows >>driver under windows, find the lteeprom.dat file & put it in the root >>directory. > > > Ta. > > Will I find that in *any* laptop install of Windows, or must I find it for > the 390E specifically? > > And if I want eCS to run on the 390E exclusively (ie. without a Win98 > anywhere) does this little program or file actually *do* anything, or is it > there for window-decoration? > > Alternatively, is it a DOS-level program that we can use under eCS? > > Sorry to sound cynical, but... > You must install the Windows modem driver for the 390E. You will not find it on any install of Windows. I think it is something to do with boot-time firmware that is loaded to the Lucent modem on each power-up. DOS? no, its a WinModem :) John, please note I am not exactly sure my information is correct. Are you using the driver from: http://www-306.ibm dot com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=DSHY-4646SL Is your OS drive c:? Install may fail if c: is not the boot drive. I also have a client with a 390e who is still running OS/2 on it. I can ask him what the story is to get it to work. The 390e would run W2k or WinXP nicely, lot less hassle. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 22:46:16 +1000 From: Daryl Pilkington Subject: Re: Lexmark P707 Printer now AUS$50,-- at Coles Norwest. Ed Durrant wrote: SNIP > > EXif print compatible - anyone know what EXif is ?? > EXif is an extension of jpg? that includes aperture, shutter speed etc. to provide proper matching of images taken under different conditions & cameras. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 23:00:38 +1000 (AEST) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: FINAL and solution on Thinkpad 390E On Fri, 28 May 2004 22:43:12 +1000, Daryl Pilkington wrote: Hi Daryl. >You must install the Windows modem driver for the 390E. You will not >find it on any install of Windows. Ah, OK - too late then. Win98 has been banished forever from that machine. > >I think it is something to do with boot-time firmware that is loaded to >the Lucent modem on each power-up. > >DOS? no, its a WinModem :) Hmm, boot time firmware... could be assembler or C, not necessarily Win-specific. >John, please note I am not exactly sure my information is correct. >Are you using the driver from: >http://www-306.ibm dot com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=DSHY-4646SL Not any more. > >Is your OS drive c:? >Install may fail if c: is not the boot drive. Yes - it has eCS on C: >I also have a client with a 390e who is still running OS/2 on it. >I can ask him what the story is to get it to work. That could be helpful, I think. As a last resort, I have a Spirit 56K PCMCIA modem. Hmm, may have to dust it off and restore it to service. > >The 390e would run W2k or WinXP nicely, lot less hassle. Well, it didn't go all *that* well with Win98. But this is a religious war, so those OS/2 derivatives have already lost out to the Original. But thanks for the suggestion! Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... Windows XP: The parts that work came from OS/2, the rest from Microsoft ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------