From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 00:01:05 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 878 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Sunday 27 June 2004 Number 878 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: Flash 7a for Mozilla : 2 Re: Flash 7a for Mozilla : 3 Re: Flash 7a for Mozilla : freiherr at earthlink dot net 4 Re: Flash 7a for Mozilla : Ken Laurie 5 Re: Flash 7a for Mozilla : Ed Durrant 6 Re: Flash 7a for Mozilla : Mark Dodel" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 00:17:44 +0930 From: Subject: Re: Flash 7a for Mozilla Hi Ed, The Flash presentation at www.anthrax dot com for the DVD 'Music of Mass Destruction' definitely requires Flash 6 and will not work with Flash 5 for OS/2... Cheers, Paul. PS great DVD too!!! On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 20:23:42 +1000, edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au wrote: >Hi Voytek, > > Do you have site that definately runs Flash v 7 - so that I can test this new >plugin works ? > > I guess we "ought" to ask if this plugin was created with the blessing of >Macromedia or not, but hey, if they can't be bothered to produce an OS/2 version, >that's their problem ! > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. > >P.S. John John Angelico was trying to track you down to >purchase a Mesa license. > >Voytek Eymont wrote: > >> Ken Laurie said: >> >> > Just found this on http://en.ecomstation.ru/ . I have installed it and >> > it seems to work fine on the few flash web sites I visited. I used the >> > web sites provided when I installed flash5. >> >> thanks for the tip, Ken ! >> now, I can finally see the flash anim. on a web site I host. >> >> btw, I installed it on both Firefox and Mozilla, and, on about:plugins, >> the Innotek's href tag seems to extend beyond the Flash plugin section; >> now, even the IBM's Java has hot link to Innotek >> >> anyhow, small price to pay for very worthwhile addition >> >> -- >> Voytek > >> >> =========================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 00:18:01 +0930 From: Subject: Re: Flash 7a for Mozilla Hi Ed, The Flash presentation at www.anthrax dot com for the DVD 'Music of Mass Destruction' definitely requires Flash 6 and will not work with Flash 5 for OS/2... Cheers, Paul. PS great DVD too!!! On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 20:23:42 +1000, edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au wrote: >Hi Voytek, > > Do you have site that definately runs Flash v 7 - so that I can test this new >plugin works ? > > I guess we "ought" to ask if this plugin was created with the blessing of >Macromedia or not, but hey, if they can't be bothered to produce an OS/2 version, >that's their problem ! > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. > >P.S. John John Angelico was trying to track you down to >purchase a Mesa license. > >Voytek Eymont wrote: > >> Ken Laurie said: >> >> > Just found this on http://en.ecomstation.ru/ . I have installed it and >> > it seems to work fine on the few flash web sites I visited. I used the >> > web sites provided when I installed flash5. >> >> thanks for the tip, Ken ! >> now, I can finally see the flash anim. on a web site I host. >> >> btw, I installed it on both Firefox and Mozilla, and, on about:plugins, >> the Innotek's href tag seems to extend beyond the Flash plugin section; >> now, even the IBM's Java has hot link to Innotek >> >> anyhow, small price to pay for very worthwhile addition >> >> -- >> Voytek > >> >> =========================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 11:23:40 -0400 From: freiherr at earthlink dot net Subject: Re: Flash 7a for Mozilla >> Just found this on http://en.ecomstation.ru/ . I have installed it and >> it seems to work fine on the few flash web sites I visited. I used the >> web sites provided when I installed flash5. Someone asked about sites that definitely requre Flash7 - here's one, and the plugin works just fine here: http://www.giuliotampalini.it/Eng/tampalini.htm Regards, Eric Schilke Copyright (c) 2004. All rights reserved. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 09:40:32 +1000 From: Ken Laurie Subject: Re: Flash 7a for Mozilla Ed On the same site is a copy of a letter from Macromedia about Flash 7 for OS/2. Here is the the letter: We just got this reply from Macromedia. They have no problem on licensing Flash Player for OS/2. But they understand that nobody has port it (ver 7) to OS/2, and Macromedia is not holding back this port. "Kim & Martin, OS2WORLD Your news post "Ask Macromedia to allow Flash 7 for OS/2 - 6/11/04 at 04:34" has certainly caught our attention. And while I understand that there are many people who would like to have the Flash Player 7 for OS/2. Flash Player 7 for OS/2 does not exist. Macromedia has not created Flash Player 7 for OS/2, and we are not preventing any third party from releasing it. None of our licensees have ported Flash Player 7 to OS/2. I certainly understand that folks are frustrated, especially since they think we are holding something from them. I want to personally assure you we are not holding back the Flash Player product from the OS/2 community. lee Lee Thomason Macromedia Flash Player Architect" In the current moment, group of OS/2 companies are discussing Flash 7.0 topic with Macromedia. regards Ken Ed Durrant wrote: >Hi Voytek, > > Do you have site that definately runs Flash v 7 - so that I can test this new >plugin works ? > > I guess we "ought" to ask if this plugin was created with the blessing of >Macromedia or not, but hey, if they can't be bothered to produce an OS/2 version, >that's their problem ! > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. > >P.S. John John Angelico was trying to track you down to >purchase a Mesa license. > >Voytek Eymont wrote: > > > >>Ken Laurie said: >> >> >> >>>Just found this on http://en.ecomstation.ru/ . I have installed it and >>>it seems to work fine on the few flash web sites I visited. I used the >>>web sites provided when I installed flash5. >>> >>> >>thanks for the tip, Ken ! >>now, I can finally see the flash anim. on a web site I host. >> >>btw, I installed it on both Firefox and Mozilla, and, on about:plugins, >>the Innotek's href tag seems to extend beyond the Flash plugin section; >>now, even the IBM's Java has hot link to Innotek >> >>anyhow, small price to pay for very worthwhile addition >> >>-- >>Voytek >> >>=========================================== >> >> > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 21:07:02 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Flash 7a for Mozilla Hi Ken, Yes a couple of other people have referenced this corespondance, so I guess Macromedia have no problems with someone porting it - and it does seem to work very well from my trials, however since the plugin reports itself as being fromInnotek, it seems strange that the code is coming from a russian eComstation site, rather than Innoteks own site in Germany. Cheers/2 Ed. Ken Laurie wrote: > Ed > > On the same site is a copy of a letter from Macromedia about Flash 7 for > OS/2. Here is the the letter: > > We just got this reply from Macromedia. They have no problem on > licensing Flash Player for OS/2. But they understand that nobody has > port it (ver 7) to OS/2, and Macromedia is not holding back this port. > > "Kim & Martin, OS2WORLD > > Your news post "Ask Macromedia to allow Flash 7 for OS/2 - 6/11/04 at 04:34" > has certainly caught our attention. And while I understand that there are > many people who would like to have the Flash Player 7 for OS/2. > Flash Player 7 for OS/2 does not exist. Macromedia has not created Flash > Player 7 for OS/2, and we are not preventing any third party from releasing > it. None of our licensees have ported Flash Player 7 to OS/2. > > I certainly understand that folks are frustrated, especially since they > think we are holding something from them. I want to personally assure you > we are not holding back the Flash Player product from the OS/2 community. > > lee > > Lee Thomason > Macromedia > Flash Player Architect" > > In the current moment, group of OS/2 companies are discussing Flash 7.0 > topic with Macromedia. > > regards > Ken > > Ed Durrant wrote: > > >Hi Voytek, > > > > Do you have site that definately runs Flash v 7 - so that I can test this new > >plugin works ? > > > > I guess we "ought" to ask if this plugin was created with the blessing of > >Macromedia or not, but hey, if they can't be bothered to produce an OS/2 version, > >that's their problem ! > > > > Cheers/2 > > > > Ed. > > > >P.S. John John Angelico was trying to track you down to > >purchase a Mesa license. > > > >Voytek Eymont wrote: > > > > > > > >>Ken Laurie said: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Just found this on http://en.ecomstation.ru/ . I have installed it and > >>>it seems to work fine on the few flash web sites I visited. I used the > >>>web sites provided when I installed flash5. > >>> > >>> > >>thanks for the tip, Ken ! > >>now, I can finally see the flash anim. on a web site I host. > >> > >>btw, I installed it on both Firefox and Mozilla, and, on about:plugins, > >>the Innotek's href tag seems to extend beyond the Flash plugin section; > >>now, even the IBM's Java has hot link to Innotek > >> > >>anyhow, small price to pay for very worthwhile addition > >> > >>-- > >>Voytek > > >> > >>=========================================== > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 09:58:11 -0300 From: "Mark Dodel" Subject: Re: Flash 7a for Mozilla In <40DEAA56.AD436AE6 at bigpond dot net dot au>, on 06/27/04 at 09:07 PM, Ed Durrant said: > Yes a couple of other people have referenced this corespondance, so I >guess Macromedia have no problems with someone porting it - and it does >seem to work very well from my trials, however since the plugin reports >itself as being fromInnotek, it seems strange that the code is coming >from a russian eComstation site, rather than Innoteks own site in >Germany. It is a leaked drop of an internal development version from Innotek. This is not a legal release of Flash for OS/2. It was not intended for public release. I know this because I asked Innotek. Please don't announce it anywhere else. Mark -- From the eComStation Desktop of: Mark Dodel Warpstock 2004, Denver, Colorado, October 21 - 24, 2004 http://www.warpstock dot org Warpstock Europe 2004, Arnhem, The Netherlands, November 26-28th, 2004 http://www.warpstock dot net For a choice in the future of personal computing, Join VOICE - http://www.os2voice dot org "The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That in it's essence, is Fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group or by any controlling private power." 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