From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 00:01:06 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 893 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Tuesday 20 July 2004 Number 893 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 * Reminder * - Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting : List Admin" 2 Re: THUMB DRIVE : nickl at pacific dot net dot au 3 Re: * Reminder * - Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting : John Angelico" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Tue, 20 July 2004 01:00:00 +1000 (EDT) From: "List Admin" Subject: * Reminder * - Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. Melbourne July OS/2 SIG Meeting The Seventh MEETING for the year for 'Melbourne PC Users Group OS/2 SIG' Date: Tuesday, 27th July 2004 Time: 6:30PM - 9:30PM Place: Melbourne PC Group Victoria, Australia. The Monthly Meeting of Melbourne OS/2 SIG Normally held the fourth Tuesday of each month. Except December. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 09:29:51 +0900 From: nickl at pacific dot net dot au Subject: Re: THUMB DRIVE Hi Everybody In <200407180158.i6I1wYnk002275 at mailproxy2.pacific dot net dot au>, on 07/18/2004 at 09:45 AM, nickl at pacific dot net dot au said: >Hi Ed, Mike, Gavin et al. >I appreciate your prompt replies. You really shouldn't have stayed up to >reply to me . It's only 0800 over here :-) >The place is shut today. But on Monday, I will be going down and getting >the Thumb Drive, as advertised. Oh BTW, it's . >And before I dom that, I will make sure I have the latest upgrades from >eCsMT (as long as they don't kill my Digital Camera ...no, I don't >think so.). Did that yesterday. It appears I am the proud owner of an Astone USB 2.0 Flash Drive ("Speed up your life with extreme mobility!" >I think the salesman did try hard, of course, as far as he could see, >there is absolutely no problem with Windows....... Was lucky here. The gentleman I talked to learnt OS/2 in his IT Certificate days at Tech (TAFE). He said, "If it doesn't go, bring it back - no problems." >So if it looks like it is "driverless", I will take the plunge. First >thing I will try is the FORMAT command. This could be interesting, and >will certainly determine if it is a good substitute for my Zip disks, as >since 1997, they have been my library of data backups....and they are all >formatted as HPFS. If they don't....well, I'll think of >something.....maybe even dig out , and manually do my >directories, then copy them. Restoration would be the reverse of >that...well maybe... Got it home and plugged it in at the back. For the $39.00 you get a nice extension lead, and a blue LED that flashes at you, very "flash" (couldn't help that one .). By the time I got up to the desktop again, a little notice saying "Drive F successfully attached". I opened the "Zip" Drive F: icon, and there was all free space (130MB from memory). Well, I couldn't help myself...curoiusity go the better of me..I right clicked and formatted the disk for HPFS....and...it worked! So excited was I, that I phoned the store and thanked them for their patience, and I'll definitely be keeping the drive. So, I copied one of my data directories to this drive, then did a compare. Noticed that some, not all, files with long filenames were missing in File Commander, but did turn up in the Drives Object Directories. Not good. But I could, for instance, read a .DWP file using DeScribe, so I thought I was onto something. OK, time to see what happens if I re-format. Wow! That was a change! When I formatted back to FAT, it became a 1.44 Floppy! And when that happened, I couldn't reformat back to HPFS (SYS 1512). Now that happened a while ago with my Zip Disks, and the workaround then, was to go into Windows (yuck) and ask it (nicely) to format it as FAT....yes it works, but FAT32 doesn't. Back in eCs it's FAT again and 125MB. But I still can't get HPFS back again. So, OK, I was stuck with FAT...no problems, I found that by using SHIFT+F7 on File Commander, I was able to send a zipped directory over to the Drive. Back Again also worked, so I can do Incremental Backups. So I'm almost happy....but no HPFS. Firstly, I do have the line BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /FLOPPIES:0. I have no problem with formatting either a 100 or 250MB Zip Disk for HPFS, but it only did the Flash Drive once. Is there another switch I can try? >Stay tuned :-) and thank for your help. More to do yet. Thanks again NICK >In <200407171537.i6HFbEnk017934 at mailproxy2.pacific dot net dot au>, on 07/17/2004 > at 11:23 PM, nickl at pacific dot net dot au said: >>Hi Everyone. >>Don't know hweather I've been asleep at the wheel or not, but saw this at >>our reasonably-local computer store: >>USB 2.0 Thumb Drive 128MB >> >>Price $39.00 >>Notes >> >>Prices can change at any time. >> >>USB 2.0 Flash Memory(Acts just like a Hard Drive) >>I have seen such things around, and I asked around if anyone knew if a >>thumb drive behaved differently from those memory card things, or a >>digital camera that one plugs into one's USB Port. The salesman didn't >>know where I was coming from, and I've heard all sorts of rumours.... >>Questions: (please). >>Has anybody heard of a Thumb Drive (the actual name)? >>Is a Thumb Drive able to be used with Refresh Removable Media, like my >>Digital Camera and Zip Drive? >>If so, what File System does a Thumb Drive use? Is it only FAT12 (like my >>Camera), or can it be formatted to FAT16/HPFS like my Zip Drive. >>Again, my apologies for coming in late, but Zip disks are getting fairly >>scarce these days, so I thought I'd better start looking at my options. >>:-) >>Thanks for your help. >>NICK >>----------------------------------------------------------- >>nickl at pacific dot net dot au >>----------------------------------------------------------- >> >----------------------------------------------------------- >nickl at pacific dot net dot au >----------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------- nickl at pacific dot net dot au ----------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:31:04 +1000 (AEST) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: * Reminder * - Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting On Tue, 20 July 2004 01:00:00 +1000 (EDT), List Admin wrote: Hi All! > We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. > Melbourne July OS/2 SIG Meeting > > The Seventh MEETING for the year for > > 'Melbourne PC Users Group OS/2 SIG' > > Date: Tuesday, 27th July 2004 > Time: 6:30PM - 9:30PM > Place: Melbourne PC Group > Victoria, Australia. We forgot to say that we will be featuring the topic of scanning and OCR using Tame/Sane and GOAT > The Monthly Meeting of Melbourne OS/2 SIG > Normally held the fourth Tuesday of each month. > Except December. When we have a well-earned rest... Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... Windows XP: The parts that work came from OS/2, the rest from Microsoft ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------