From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:01:09 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 966 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Tuesday 26 October 2004 Number 966 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Want to possibly lose your JFS volumes? Multiboot with W2KPSP4 [or XP?] : Mike O'Connor 2 [Fwd: New file uploaded to os2user] - W2K vs. JFS : Mike O'Connor 3 [Fwd: New file uploaded to os2user] - W2K vs. JFS [second file] : Mike O'Connor 4 Sorry about two missing attachments - herewith included : Mike O'Connor 5 USB HD ? : Voytek Eymont" 6 Re: USB HD ? : Mike O'Connor **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:09:01 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Want to possibly lose your JFS volumes? Multiboot with W2KPSP4 [or XP?] Hi All , Posted to both os2user and ecomstation groups on Yahoo & also to os2genau at os2 dot org dot au in view of the possible seriousness of the problem, so please excuse the multi-posting. I have been getting cheesed-off at the problem with multi-booting OS/2-eCS with W2KProSP4 [could still be the same also with XP?]. Following a "not-as-attentive-as-I-should-have-been" multi-boot to W2KPSP4, and not aborting the process in time, W2KPSP4 now "recognises" all JFS drives as "FAT", even those >2GB, and tries very, very hard in the [now - on every boot] text-mode part of the boot process to "FIX" them with CHKDSK. Definitely not a case to let it boot "unattended" there! Even in "attended" mode you have to be very quick to stop it doing a CHKDSK on all those "FAT" volumes, as of course it's idea of "fixing" them is definitely not a good idea! I have posted an annotated screenshot of the W2KPSP4 interface showing the problem, plus another shot from LVMGUI showing the *real* volume name of the volume referenced below, on the files-area of the os2user at yahoogroups dot com group. Following this is a text reproduction of the Disk Management Tools display here on one system with a few JFS volumes. Note that *all* of these volumes, bar one - see below, have had their driveletters "removed" in that same interface. This has always been a problem with W2KP, especially after any repartitioning/volume changes, but it now happens on *every* boot to it. Most of the displayed partitions are in their physical order as seen by W2KPSP4, with "recgnised as valid" partitions [FAT & FAT32] at end of list. The exception is the [JFS]volume K, located on Disk #1, which somehow W2KPSP4 has allocated a "Volume" label of [HEX-string] "21 0e e4 cc 2e 46 18 c7 80 90 c4". Doing a GU search of that JFS volume it's only found once, in Logical Sector Number 561, located on Cyl 0, Hd 9, Sector 58 at offset 0x0060, not where an expected volume label should turn up. The "BOX-characters" in the screenshot replace the HEX values of 0e, cc, 18, c7, c4 in above string. There was *no* drive-letter attached to that volume under W2KPSP4, so impossible to remove same. It appears that this mutilation is what is now causing W2KPSP4 to "find" and identify all JFS-volumes as "FAT" on bootup. This disk is a "test-bed" so a lot of partitions have their volume-letters shuffled in the process, two partitions were badly affected [CRCs no longer reliably read in system area of partition] by power outage problems prior to buying a UPS for the system, and many have variable volume letters, as required. Noting comments elsewhere about AirBOOT 1.03 no longer using Volume-labels, but only Partition names, I wonder whether Martin Kiewitz has encountered a similar problem? -------------------------------------------------- File Status Capacity Free % Free Disk# & FS System Space Win/LVM letter _____________________________________________________________ [IBM BM] Healthy(Active) 8 MB 8 MB 100 % #1 BM -/E Healthy 1004 MB 1004 MB 100 % #1 HPFS -/- Healthy 2.93 GB 2.93 GB 100 % #1 LINUX -/- Healthy 518 MB 518 MB 100 % #1 RH SWAP -/P Healthy(Active) 1.47 GB 1.47 GB 100 % #1 HPFS -/H Healthy 1004 MB 1004 MB 100 % #1 HPFS -/- Healthy 1004 MB 1004 MB 100 % #1 HPFS-BAD CRCs [unused] -/J Healthy(Active) 981 MB 981 MB 100 % #1 HPFS -/L Healthy(Active) 1012 MB 1012 MB 100 % #1 HPFS -/F Healthy(Active) 1.00 GB 1.00 GB 100 % #1 HPFS -/N Healthy(Active) 1012 MB 1012 MB 100 % #1 HPFS -/I Healthy(Active) 24 MB 24 MB 100 % #1 HPFS FAT** -/Q Healthy(Active) 493 MB 365 MB 74 % #1 JFS -/S Healthy(Active) 800 MB 800 MB 100 % #1 HPFS FAT** -/M Healthy(Active) 792 MB 677 MB 85 % #1 JFS FAT** -/V Healthy(Active) 4.88 GB 2.89 GB 59 % #1 JFS FAT** -/G Healthy(Active) 1003 MB 732 MB 72 % #1 JFS FAT** -/R Healthy(Active) 4.88 GB 3.03 GB 62 % #1 JFS -/- Healthy(Active) 8 MB 8 MB 100 % #1 XOSL FAT** -/O Healthy(Active) 1.95 GB 1.30 GB 66 % #1 JFS -/d Healthy 1.47 GB 1.47 MB 100 % #2 HPFS FAT** -/D Healthy(Active) 799 MB 640 MB 80 % #2 JFS FAT** -/W Healthy 2.56 GB 1.66 GB 64 % #2 JFS FAT** -/X Healthy 2.93 GB 1.95 GB 66 % #2 JFS FAT** ?/K Healthy(Active) 493 MB 329 MB 66 % #1 JFS [volname GARBAGED] FAT* E/U Healthy(Active) 474 MB 471 MB 99 % #3 FAT [USB-PenDrive] FAT32 C/C Healthy(Boot) 4.88 GB 3.07 GB 62 % #1 FAT32-W2KPSP4 BOOT NTFS O/T Healthy 400 MB 97 MB 24 % #1 NTFS Amount & % FREE numbers bear no relation to truth, apart from last 3 entries! * 512MB USB-FLASH drive was FAT, but now JFS too! ** W2K PRO SP4 tries [very, very hard - CAN'T BE LEFT UNATTENDED!] in the text-mode part of the boot process to FIX these JFS drives even though they have had their [WIN] drive-letters removed with the Disk Management Tools in W2KP SP4!!! Maybe JvW can come up with something in DFSee to fix this problem, which makes the former IBM BM problem look like peanuts!! -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, *.bat, *.reg attachments] [Please use zipped versions of above] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:14:29 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: [Fwd: New file uploaded to os2user] - W2K vs. JFS Earlier message refers - W2K/JFS problem -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, *.bat, *.reg attachments] [Please use zipped versions of above] [attachments have been removed] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:16:07 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: [Fwd: New file uploaded to os2user] - W2K vs. JFS [second file] [See previous message] -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, *.bat, *.reg attachments] [Please use zipped versions of above] [attachments have been removed] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:28:39 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Sorry about two missing attachments - herewith included [Herewith missing attachments referred to earlier] These are the illustrations of the W2K vs. JFS problem here W2K now seeing JFS as FAT! This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the os2user group. File : /Partition with _funny_ label from W2KPSP4.gif Uploaded by : mikeoconwarp Description : Refers to W2KPSP4-JFS as FAT problem You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo dot com/group/os2user/files/Partition%20with%20_funny_%20label%20from%20W2KPSP4.gif This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the os2user group. File : /Annotated-FAT-drives-actually-all-are-JFS-in-W2K-Pro-SP4.GIF Uploaded by : mikeoconwarp Description : Illustration of W2KPSP4 conflict with JFS drives [ seen as FAT!] You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo dot com/group/os2user/files/Annotated-FAT-drives-actually-all-are-JFS-in-W2K-Pro-SP4.GIF -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, *.bat, *.reg attachments] [Please use zipped versions of above] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:41:47 +1000 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: USB HD ? are USB HD supported ? I have USB memory stick and USB card reader working fine, now, I'd like to hook up a HD, the HD powers up, but, I can's see it are HDs supported, does it need anything xtra in config ? I have: BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS BASEDEV=USBEHCD.SYS BASEDEV=USBD.SYS /REQ:USBUHCD$, USBEHCD$ BASEDEV=USBHID.SYS BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /FLOPPIES:0 /REMOVABLES:5 /V hcimonit You have 1 PCI USB UHCI host controller(s) You have 3 PCI USB UHCI host controller(s) You have 1 PCI USB EHCI host controller(s) -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:52:51 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: USB HD ? Voytek Eymont wrote: >are USB HD supported ? > >I have USB memory stick and USB card reader working fine, >now, I'd like to hook up a HD, the HD powers up, but, I can's see it > >are HDs supported, does it need anything xtra in config ? > >I have: > >BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS >BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS >BASEDEV=USBUHCD.SYS >BASEDEV=USBEHCD.SYS >BASEDEV=USBD.SYS /REQ:USBUHCD$, USBEHCD$ >BASEDEV=USBHID.SYS >BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /FLOPPIES:0 /REMOVABLES:5 /V > >hcimonit You have 1 PCI USB UHCI host controller(s) >You have 3 PCI USB UHCI host controller(s) >You have 1 PCI USB EHCI host controller(s) > Hi Voytek, Here's an extract from a response I received on os2hardware group on Yahoo: A so-so price, maybe not for Oz. Any USB Flash drive type works with the USB Mass Storage drivers available either Software Choice or eCS. The drive appears as a removeable drive to OS/2. You run the Removeable Device Monitor in Startup and when a drive is inserted in the USB slot, a notification window appears that a new drive is available assigned to the next available drive letter. After storing files to the drive,remember to right-click the drive letter and Eject the drive before pulling it out of the USB slot. Legend appears to be a decent brand, I have a 64MB Quick drive keychain doohickey and also a *80GB* *USB*/Firewire external storage hard drive that works well. -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, *.bat, *.reg attachments] [Please use zipped versions of above] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------