From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:01:09 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 990 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Saturday 27 November 2004 Number 990 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: Scanners : Dennis Nolan 2 Re: Scanners : Ed Durrant 3 Re: Scanners : Dennis Nolan 4 Re: Scanners : Ed Durrant 5 Re: Scanners : Gavin Miller 6 Re: Scanners : Ed Durrant 7 Re: Scanners : Ed Durrant 8 Re: Scanners : Gavin Miller 9 Re: Scanners : Ed Durrant 10 Re: Scanners : Gavin Miller 11 Re: Scanners : Voytek Eymont" 12 Re: Scanners : Dennis Nolan 13 Re: Scanners : Voytek Eymont" 14 Re: Scanners : John Angelico" 15 Re: Scanners : Voytek Eymont" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 09:09:02 +1100 From: Dennis Nolan Subject: Re: Scanners Hi Gavin I did look into operation with Tame/2 a couple of months ago. At that time it did not support the 4870, only an earlier model in the range. However, it is also a question of ease of use. The software that comes with the 4870 makes scanning in, and post processing so easy. Automatic dust removal. Automatic damage repair. Automatic unmask sharpening. Automatic colour correction, including brightness and contrast. Scanning multiple frames. When SVista is able to deliver full USB and the rest of Ed's post, I'll give it another try. One area where OS/2 does shine is in image rendering. PmView Pro renders an image far better than any of the Win98 graphic programs. This is using all the same hardware except fot the HDD. Under Pmview the images look sharper and cleaner. Under windows the images seem blurred. It maybe that windows is bad at rendering a large file to the screen resolution. Pmview's method of colour, contrast and gamma adjustment is better than that used in the windows programs. Unfortunately, it only operates on the full image. The limited number of effects and their restriction to only the full image, severely restricts it's usefulness. I suppose we have to wait until SVister delivers for an OS/2 solution. Regards Dennis Gavin Miller wrote: > Hi Denis, > > There is a Sane backend for the 4870 that is suposed to be fully > functional. May I ask if it's ok to test it with Tame/2. It comes > with sane 1.0.14 for epson USB, Snapscan USB and SCSI. The package is > tame100.zip and is found on hobbes. There are instructions in the INF > file on what to do to test scanners not listed in the database. > > Cheers > G > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 13:34:56 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Scanners Hey Guys, you do realise that Tame/2 is only a front-end to SANE don't you ?? Hence once someone gets SANE/2 compiled with working USB support, TAME/2 can use it - a little bit of file editing to define the available features with a hex editor but that's no "biggie" I did it fot the Canon FB620S some years ago. Cheers/2 Ed. Dennis Nolan wrote: > Hi Gavin > > I did look into operation with Tame/2 a couple of months ago. At that > time it did not support the 4870, only an earlier model in the range. > However, it is also a question of ease of use. > The software that comes with the 4870 makes scanning in, and post > processing so easy. > Automatic dust removal. > Automatic damage repair. > Automatic unmask sharpening. > Automatic colour correction, including brightness and contrast. > Scanning multiple frames. > > When SVista is able to deliver full USB and the rest of Ed's post, I'll > give it another try. > > One area where OS/2 does shine is in image rendering. > > PmView Pro renders an image far better than any of the Win98 graphic > programs. > This is using all the same hardware except fot the HDD. > > Under Pmview the images look sharper and cleaner. > Under windows the images seem blurred. It maybe that windows is bad at > rendering a large file to the screen resolution. > > Pmview's method of colour, contrast and gamma adjustment is better than > that used in the windows programs. Unfortunately, it only operates on > the full image. > The limited number of effects and their restriction to only the full > image, severely restricts it's usefulness. > > I suppose we have to wait until SVister delivers for an OS/2 solution. > > Regards > > Dennis > > Gavin Miller wrote: > > > Hi Denis, > > > > There is a Sane backend for the 4870 that is suposed to be fully > > functional. May I ask if it's ok to test it with Tame/2. It comes > > with sane 1.0.14 for epson USB, Snapscan USB and SCSI. The package is > > tame100.zip and is found on hobbes. There are instructions in the INF > > file on what to do to test scanners not listed in the database. > > > > Cheers > > G > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:07:22 +1100 From: Dennis Nolan Subject: Re: Scanners Hi all I've just come across ImageJ at http://rsb.info.nih.gov/ij/ It's a free java image application. It runs on os/2 with Java 1.3 although I'm using 1.4.2 It is so fast at rendering the image, half a sec. for a 1024x960 file. It was developed by the Yank PS as a medical/scientific image analysis tool. But a lot of what you want to do in image post production is included. From the downloads directory get the linux update download. It's the only zip file. Don't bother with the windows file, it won't expand out, looking for a specific file which is not in os/2. Unzip the file and go to the docs section and find the os/2 install directions. If it's as good as I hope and PmVnc works to expectation I should be able to have the scanner conected to a windows box which I can controll from my os/2 computer. Something to look at over Christmas. Regards Dennis. Ed Durrant wrote: >Hey Guys, you do realise that Tame/2 is only a front-end to SANE don't you ?? Hence once >someone gets SANE/2 compiled with working USB support, TAME/2 can use it - a little bit >of file editing to define the available features with a hex editor but that's no >"biggie" I did it fot the Canon FB620S some years ago. > >Cheers/2 > >Ed. > >Dennis Nolan wrote: > > > >>Hi Gavin >> >>I did look into operation with Tame/2 a couple of months ago. At that >>time it did not support the 4870, only an earlier model in the range. >>However, it is also a question of ease of use. >>The software that comes with the 4870 makes scanning in, and post >>processing so easy. >>Automatic dust removal. >>Automatic damage repair. >>Automatic unmask sharpening. >>Automatic colour correction, including brightness and contrast. >>Scanning multiple frames. >> >>When SVista is able to deliver full USB and the rest of Ed's post, I'll >>give it another try. >> >>One area where OS/2 does shine is in image rendering. >> >>PmView Pro renders an image far better than any of the Win98 graphic >>programs. >>This is using all the same hardware except fot the HDD. >> >>Under Pmview the images look sharper and cleaner. >>Under windows the images seem blurred. It maybe that windows is bad at >>rendering a large file to the screen resolution. >> >>Pmview's method of colour, contrast and gamma adjustment is better than >>that used in the windows programs. Unfortunately, it only operates on >>the full image. >>The limited number of effects and their restriction to only the full >>image, severely restricts it's usefulness. >> >>I suppose we have to wait until SVister delivers for an OS/2 solution. >> >>Regards >> >>Dennis >> >>Gavin Miller wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hi Denis, >>> >>>There is a Sane backend for the 4870 that is suposed to be fully >>>functional. May I ask if it's ok to test it with Tame/2. It comes >>>with sane 1.0.14 for epson USB, Snapscan USB and SCSI. The package is >>>tame100.zip and is found on hobbes. There are instructions in the INF >>>file on what to do to test scanners not listed in the database. >>> >>>Cheers >>>G >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:12:56 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Scanners Have you also considered X-SANE that has similar "remote control" features ? Cheers/2 Ed. Dennis Nolan wrote: > Hi all > > I've just come across ImageJ at http://rsb.info.nih.gov/ij/ > > It's a free java image application. It runs on os/2 with Java 1.3 > although I'm using 1.4.2 > > It is so fast at rendering the image, half a sec. for a 1024x960 file. > > It was developed by the Yank PS as a medical/scientific image analysis tool. > But a lot of what you want to do in image post production is included. > > From the downloads directory get the linux update download. It's the > only zip file. > Don't bother with the windows file, it won't expand out, looking for a > specific file which is not in os/2. > > Unzip the file and go to the docs section and find the os/2 install > directions. > > If it's as good as I hope and PmVnc works to expectation I should be > able to have the scanner conected to a windows box which I can controll > from my os/2 computer. > Something to look at over Christmas. > > Regards > Dennis. > > Ed Durrant wrote: > > >Hey Guys, you do realise that Tame/2 is only a front-end to SANE don't you ?? Hence once > >someone gets SANE/2 compiled with working USB support, TAME/2 can use it - a little bit > >of file editing to define the available features with a hex editor but that's no > >"biggie" I did it fot the Canon FB620S some years ago. > > > >Cheers/2 > > > >Ed. > > > >Dennis Nolan wrote: > > > > > > > >>Hi Gavin > >> > >>I did look into operation with Tame/2 a couple of months ago. At that > >>time it did not support the 4870, only an earlier model in the range. > >>However, it is also a question of ease of use. > >>The software that comes with the 4870 makes scanning in, and post > >>processing so easy. > >>Automatic dust removal. > >>Automatic damage repair. > >>Automatic unmask sharpening. > >>Automatic colour correction, including brightness and contrast. > >>Scanning multiple frames. > >> > >>When SVista is able to deliver full USB and the rest of Ed's post, I'll > >>give it another try. > >> > >>One area where OS/2 does shine is in image rendering. > >> > >>PmView Pro renders an image far better than any of the Win98 graphic > >>programs. > >>This is using all the same hardware except fot the HDD. > >> > >>Under Pmview the images look sharper and cleaner. > >>Under windows the images seem blurred. It maybe that windows is bad at > >>rendering a large file to the screen resolution. > >> > >>Pmview's method of colour, contrast and gamma adjustment is better than > >>that used in the windows programs. Unfortunately, it only operates on > >>the full image. > >>The limited number of effects and their restriction to only the full > >>image, severely restricts it's usefulness. > >> > >>I suppose we have to wait until SVister delivers for an OS/2 solution. > >> > >>Regards > >> > >>Dennis > >> > >>Gavin Miller wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Hi Denis, > >>> > >>>There is a Sane backend for the 4870 that is suposed to be fully > >>>functional. May I ask if it's ok to test it with Tame/2. It comes > >>>with sane 1.0.14 for epson USB, Snapscan USB and SCSI. The package is > >>>tame100.zip and is found on hobbes. There are instructions in the INF > >>>file on what to do to test scanners not listed in the database. > >>> > >>>Cheers > >>>G > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:18:15 +1100 From: Gavin Miller Subject: Re: Scanners Hi Ed, >Hey Guys, you do realise that Tame/2 is only a front-end to SANE don't you ?? Hence once >someone gets SANE/2 compiled with working USB support. > There are two USB compiled backends for OS/2. One for Epson scanners only (not the one that is listed on the sane site) and Snapscan. Both come with Tame/2. The big problem is there aparently needs a port of usblib to OS/2 before other usb scanners become useful. Also, (and I'm just going on the instructions here) the scanner needs to be listed in the Tame/2 database. This means use sane-find-scanner.exe to search for the scanner, if it finds one it recognises then use scaninfo.exe to produce info on the scanners capabilities, test it with scanimage, if it works send the info to the Tame people and they will add it to the database and send you a copy. Just on a side note; where are all the native OS/2 developers? There seems to be a disturbing (growing) trend to either port from unix or turn os/2 into an emulator. Come on... Native people. Native... end rant ;-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:21:05 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Scanners By the way, the Linux directory has GZ files not zip files (are GZ files actually ZIP format ??). ZIP files are however at: ftp://rsbweb.nih.gov/pub/image-j/zips/ Cheers/2 Ed. Dennis Nolan wrote: > Hi all > > I've just come across ImageJ at http://rsb.info.nih.gov/ij/ > > It's a free java image application. It runs on os/2 with Java 1.3 > although I'm using 1.4.2 > > It is so fast at rendering the image, half a sec. for a 1024x960 file. > > It was developed by the Yank PS as a medical/scientific image analysis tool. > But a lot of what you want to do in image post production is included. > > From the downloads directory get the linux update download. It's the > only zip file. > Don't bother with the windows file, it won't expand out, looking for a > specific file which is not in os/2. > > Unzip the file and go to the docs section and find the os/2 install > directions. > > If it's as good as I hope and PmVnc works to expectation I should be > able to have the scanner conected to a windows box which I can controll > from my os/2 computer. > Something to look at over Christmas. > > Regards > Dennis. > > Ed Durrant wrote: > > >Hey Guys, you do realise that Tame/2 is only a front-end to SANE don't you ?? Hence once > >someone gets SANE/2 compiled with working USB support, TAME/2 can use it - a little bit > >of file editing to define the available features with a hex editor but that's no > >"biggie" I did it fot the Canon FB620S some years ago. > > > >Cheers/2 > > > >Ed. > > > >Dennis Nolan wrote: > > > > > > > >>Hi Gavin > >> > >>I did look into operation with Tame/2 a couple of months ago. At that > >>time it did not support the 4870, only an earlier model in the range. > >>However, it is also a question of ease of use. > >>The software that comes with the 4870 makes scanning in, and post > >>processing so easy. > >>Automatic dust removal. > >>Automatic damage repair. > >>Automatic unmask sharpening. > >>Automatic colour correction, including brightness and contrast. > >>Scanning multiple frames. > >> > >>When SVista is able to deliver full USB and the rest of Ed's post, I'll > >>give it another try. > >> > >>One area where OS/2 does shine is in image rendering. > >> > >>PmView Pro renders an image far better than any of the Win98 graphic > >>programs. > >>This is using all the same hardware except fot the HDD. > >> > >>Under Pmview the images look sharper and cleaner. > >>Under windows the images seem blurred. It maybe that windows is bad at > >>rendering a large file to the screen resolution. > >> > >>Pmview's method of colour, contrast and gamma adjustment is better than > >>that used in the windows programs. Unfortunately, it only operates on > >>the full image. > >>The limited number of effects and their restriction to only the full > >>image, severely restricts it's usefulness. > >> > >>I suppose we have to wait until SVister delivers for an OS/2 solution. > >> > >>Regards > >> > >>Dennis > >> > >>Gavin Miller wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Hi Denis, > >>> > >>>There is a Sane backend for the 4870 that is suposed to be fully > >>>functional. May I ask if it's ok to test it with Tame/2. It comes > >>>with sane 1.0.14 for epson USB, Snapscan USB and SCSI. The package is > >>>tame100.zip and is found on hobbes. There are instructions in the INF > >>>file on what to do to test scanners not listed in the database. > >>> > >>>Cheers > >>>G > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:30:52 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Scanners Gavin Miller wrote: > Hi Ed, > > >Hey Guys, you do realise that Tame/2 is only a front-end to SANE don't you ?? Hence once > >someone gets SANE/2 compiled with working USB support. > > > > There are two USB compiled backends for OS/2. One for Epson scanners > only (not the one that is listed on the sane site) and Snapscan. Both > come with Tame/2. The big problem is there aparently needs a port of > usblib to OS/2 before other usb scanners become useful. Also, (and I'm > just going on the instructions here) the scanner needs to be listed in > the Tame/2 database. This means use sane-find-scanner.exe to search for > the scanner, if it finds one it recognises then use scaninfo.exe to > produce info on the scanners capabilities, test it with scanimage, if it > works send the info to the Tame people and they will add it to the > database and send you a copy. > Actually you can add it yourself if you understand Hex editors - I did it and sent off the settings for the Canon and they kindly sent me their utility to update the database for any future scanners I may wish to try out. Fact is the Canon / TAME / PMVIEW 2000 combination works very well for me, so as long as the scanner doesn't break, I'm happy ! > Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:35:21 +1100 From: Gavin Miller Subject: Re: Scanners The canon's a scsi right? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:40:54 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Scanners Yes - Canon FB620S AU$99 with Adaptec SCSI card from Strathfield Audio about 4 or 5 years ago. I know the questions are aimed at USB scanners and like you, what I have heard is really only very few USB scanners are supported under OS/2, Epson being the preferred one apparently. Cheers/2 Ed. Gavin Miller wrote: > The canon's a scsi right? > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:56:06 +1100 From: Gavin Miller Subject: Re: Scanners Mmmm... don't think I could get one now. Ed Durrant wrote: >Yes - Canon FB620S AU$99 with Adaptec SCSI card from Strathfield Audio about 4 or 5 >years ago. > >I know the questions are aimed at USB scanners and like you, what I have heard is >really only very few USB scanners are supported under OS/2, Epson being the preferred >one apparently. > >Cheers/2 > >Ed. > >Gavin Miller wrote: > > > >>The canon's a scsi right? >> >> >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 19:10:20 +1100 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: Scanners Ed Durrant said: > By the way, the Linux directory has GZ files not zip files (are GZ files > actually ZIP format > ??). you need 0[roman][E:\]untgz UNTGZ/OS2 Decompression Utility 0.95 freeware version Copyright (c) 1996,97 Tillmann Steinbrecher. Feb 17 1997 USAGE: UNTGZOS2 to extract from TGZ/TAR archive UNTGZOS2 -l to list/test TGZ/TAR archive UNTGZOS2 -t to test CRC of GZ/TGZ archive UNTGZOS2 -d to decompress GZ archive UNTGZOS2 -y to assume YES on all queries GZIP compressed, PKZIP compressed and uncompressed TAR archives are supported. This freeware program may be distributed according to the terms of the GNU general public license version 2. If you have any suggestions or encounter problems using this program, please send a message to tst at bigfoot dot com. Your comments are highly appreciated. Thanks. -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:26:00 +1100 From: Dennis Nolan Subject: Re: Scanners Sorry, I was relying on memory. It's the JAR File (Upgrade or Unix), this is a zip file, and it is at the top of the page. Regards Dennis. Ed Durrant wrote: >By the way, the Linux directory has GZ files not zip files (are GZ files actually ZIP format >??). > >ZIP files are however at: > >ftp://rsbweb.nih.gov/pub/image-j/zips/ > >Cheers/2 > >Ed. > >Dennis Nolan wrote: > > > >>Hi all >> >>I've just come across ImageJ at http://rsb.info.nih.gov/ij/ >> >>It's a free java image application. It runs on os/2 with Java 1.3 >>although I'm using 1.4.2 >> >>It is so fast at rendering the image, half a sec. for a 1024x960 file. >> >>It was developed by the Yank PS as a medical/scientific image analysis tool. >>But a lot of what you want to do in image post production is included. >> >> From the downloads directory get the linux update download. It's the >>only zip file. >>Don't bother with the windows file, it won't expand out, looking for a >>specific file which is not in os/2. >> >>Unzip the file and go to the docs section and find the os/2 install >>directions. >> >>If it's as good as I hope and PmVnc works to expectation I should be >>able to have the scanner conected to a windows box which I can controll >>from my os/2 computer. >>Something to look at over Christmas. >> >>Regards >>Dennis. >> >>Ed Durrant wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hey Guys, you do realise that Tame/2 is only a front-end to SANE don't you ?? Hence once >>>someone gets SANE/2 compiled with working USB support, TAME/2 can use it - a little bit >>>of file editing to define the available features with a hex editor but that's no >>>"biggie" I did it fot the Canon FB620S some years ago. >>> >>>Cheers/2 >>> >>>Ed. >>> >>>Dennis Nolan wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hi Gavin >>>> >>>>I did look into operation with Tame/2 a couple of months ago. At that >>>>time it did not support the 4870, only an earlier model in the range. >>>>However, it is also a question of ease of use. >>>>The software that comes with the 4870 makes scanning in, and post >>>>processing so easy. >>>>Automatic dust removal. >>>>Automatic damage repair. >>>>Automatic unmask sharpening. >>>>Automatic colour correction, including brightness and contrast. >>>>Scanning multiple frames. >>>> >>>>When SVista is able to deliver full USB and the rest of Ed's post, I'll >>>>give it another try. >>>> >>>>One area where OS/2 does shine is in image rendering. >>>> >>>>PmView Pro renders an image far better than any of the Win98 graphic >>>>programs. >>>>This is using all the same hardware except fot the HDD. >>>> >>>>Under Pmview the images look sharper and cleaner. >>>>Under windows the images seem blurred. It maybe that windows is bad at >>>>rendering a large file to the screen resolution. >>>> >>>>Pmview's method of colour, contrast and gamma adjustment is better than >>>>that used in the windows programs. Unfortunately, it only operates on >>>>the full image. >>>>The limited number of effects and their restriction to only the full >>>>image, severely restricts it's usefulness. >>>> >>>>I suppose we have to wait until SVister delivers for an OS/2 solution. >>>> >>>>Regards >>>> >>>>Dennis >>>> >>>>Gavin Miller wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi Denis, >>>>> >>>>>There is a Sane backend for the 4870 that is suposed to be fully >>>>>functional. May I ask if it's ok to test it with Tame/2. It comes >>>>>with sane 1.0.14 for epson USB, Snapscan USB and SCSI. The package is >>>>>tame100.zip and is found on hobbes. There are instructions in the INF >>>>>file on what to do to test scanners not listed in the database. >>>>> >>>>>Cheers >>>>>G >> >>>>> >>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:31:14 +1100 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: Scanners Ed Durrant said: > Yes - Canon FB620S AU$99 with Adaptec SCSI card from Strathfield Audio > about 4 or 5 > years ago. >> The canon's a scsi right? talking about scsi scanners, I came across an old HP 2p with **ADF** $30. I actually have an HP2p with ADF that I bought brand new some ?? years ago, and, still use. I bought the $30 2p 'just in case' -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 14 ==========================** Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:41:29 +1100 (AEDT) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: Scanners On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:56:06 +1100, Gavin Miller wrote: >Mmmm... don't think I could get one now. > >Ed Durrant wrote: > >>Yes - Canon FB620S AU$99 with Adaptec SCSI card from Strathfield Audio about 4 or 5 >>years ago. Hi, Gavin. You could try picking one up second hand, as Win-freaks dump them for gee-whiz USB units. Seeing it uses an Adaptec card, I would hazard a guess that it's got a bog-standard SCSI interface, instead of one of those cut-down "made for Canon" connections. So if you have an existing SCSI card (or a spare slot) it has a fair chance of working. I was looking for SCSI units a while ago, and eventually a beneficent OS/2er gave me a HP3C. I got myself a simple Adaptec 1520 card, and Tame drives it wonderfully! It's entirely separate from the hard drives on the Buslogic card, but as Con the Fruiterer would say "Duzzen Madder!" The only limitation I can see is that the scanner has to be connected and powered up when I boot the machine, or it won't be found by Tame. That is, there is no such thing as auto-sensing, but I can live with that. Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... SET PATH=Bookshelf;DeskDrawer;Closet;BoxUnderBed;GarbageCan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 15 ==========================** Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:37:33 +1100 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: Scanners John Angelico said: > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:56:06 +1100, Gavin Miller wrote: >>Ed Durrant wrote: > > So if you have an existing SCSI card (or a spare slot) it has a fair > chance > of working. > > I was looking for SCSI units a while ago, and eventually a beneficent > OS/2er > gave me a HP3C. I got myself a simple Adaptec 1520 card, and Tame drives > it > wonderfully! It's entirely separate from the hard drives on the Buslogic > card, but as Con the Fruiterer would say "Duzzen Madder!" I have on a single Adaptec: 2 HDs (wide internal), CD ROM, DAT (narrow internal) CDRW and HP 3C/ADF (external) well, I used to have, anyhow having recently replaced SCSI 4/6/8 CDRW with IDE 52, same for (2x ? 4x ? Sony SCSI CDROM (it wouldn't read CDRWs) with IDE CDROM as much as it all humms along very nicely, I recently dicovered a really big boo boo: if during scanning I'll do a big HD I/O, like, big XCOPY, I get a total hard lockup.... never noticed it in the past, so, not sure if it always was the case... bit annoying, though > The only limitation I can see is that the scanner has to be connected and > powered up when I boot the machine, or it won't be found by Tame. That is, > there is no such thing as auto-sensing, but I can live with that. yes, that's a SCSI issue -- Voytek ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------