From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 00:01:06 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1007 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Saturday 18 December 2004 Number 1007 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: eCS and Linux : Kev 2 Re: Boot Manager : Mike O'Connor 3 Re: eCS and Linux : Kev 4 Re: Boot Manager : Kev **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 11:18:24 +0800 From: Kev Subject: Re: eCS and Linux Bruce Rossi wrote: > and let a C: partition see the "other" C: as well, if > set up with a different drive letter. BM can do that too. It depends on having different drive letters tho. > The main point I was making was that you can physically remove all HDs > except one to install wintendo onto, then return the other HDs and SBM will > allow you to boot to a 2nd or greater HD as if it was C: on the 1st HD, which > wintendo requires. It can also find and boot from a CDROM. Now that is clever! Pity M$ never worked how to boot there crap from a different partition. > No. LVM is intrinsic to eCS, so the other OS's do not know of it's C: > >>they look for the 1st primary partition or do they look for C:? One for >>another day! Oh well, I'll use that other day for something else then. Cheers Kev ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 14:01:53 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: Boot Manager Alan Duval wrote: >Hi everyone, > >Thanks to all who replied to my eMail. I think i'll use IBM BM as i'm familiar with it. I'm waiting for Fedora CD's which i've ordered. I've tried a number of bootable Linux distro's but the only ones that work on my system are Mandrake Move and Knoppix. I like Mandrake but for an install thought i'd go for Fedora as the Red Hat people are putting a lot of effort into making Linux user friendly. > >Regards, > > Hi Alan, Be VERY careful with Fedora! Have a read of the comments by Jan van Wijk [DFSee author] re how the 2.6 kernel doesn't play nicely with other platforms, ignores current drive geometry! [that's on the DFSee Yahoo group - ] For more info on DFSee visit: http://www.dfsee dot com -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, * dot com, *.bat, *.reg attachments] [Please use zipped versions of above] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:58:45 +0800 From: Kev Subject: Re: eCS and Linux Just a little related gem I found quite by accident whilst looking for something else. This is a quote from the database that comes with ConfigTool v1.3, under the JFS.IFS listing ... <<=NOTE=>> JFS is also available for Linux. To create an OS/2 compatible partition use the -O paramter. Format 3rd partition on 2nd hard disk with the volume label "JFS_hdb3" and OS/2 compatibilty: mkfs.jfs -L -O JFS_hdb3 /dev/hdb3 Makes me wonder now why I lost my JFS partition to Linux. I can't remember what the exact circumstances were, but it may have been related to the "-O" parameter above. I think the warning about incompatibilities came from a PLUG source - after I lost my partition. Cheers Kev Kev wrote: > > > Bruce Rossi wrote: > >> and let a C: partition see the "other" C: as well, if set up with a >> different drive letter. > > > BM can do that too. It depends on having different drive letters tho. > >> The main point I was making was that you can physically remove all HDs >> except one to install wintendo onto, then return the other HDs and SBM >> will allow you to boot to a 2nd or greater HD as if it was C: on the >> 1st HD, which wintendo requires. It can also find and boot from a CDROM. > > > Now that is clever! Pity M$ never worked how to boot there crap from a > different partition. > >> No. LVM is intrinsic to eCS, so the other OS's do not know of it's C: >> >>> they look for the 1st primary partition or do they look for C:? One >>> for another day! > > > Oh well, I'll use that other day for something else then. > > Cheers > Kev > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:18:14 +0800 From: Kev Subject: Re: Boot Manager Hi Alan Mike O'Connor wrote: > Be VERY careful with Fedora! Have a read of the comments by Jan van Wijk > [DFSee author] re how the 2.6 kernel doesn't play nicely with other > platforms, ignores current drive geometry! [that's on the DFSee Yahoo > group - ] > For more info on DFSee visit: http://www.dfsee dot com Mandrake also defaults to 2.6.x kernel and I think all Debians after Woody do also. In fact most of the current releases of the more popular ones default to 2.6.x. What Mike has said above,"... doesn't play nicely with other platforms, ignores current drive geometry!" is akin what I said about Linux not even using the BIOS settings for HDD geometry, but doing its own thing on boot up. While it does do this, I've had no grief from it, as long as I've ensured (plenty of cross-checking) that I AM installing Linux into the partitions I've meant to. If I don't install the appropriate Linux FS driver in OS/2 then the Linux drives simply remain invisible to OS/2 and cause no grief of any kind. I might add that I regularly (make that VERY regularly - like about once a week on average) install different Linux releases just to keep abreast of how useable it is becoming as a desktop OS for a completely non-technical non-nerd non-geek like me. Novell (used to be SuSE) have come closest so far as far as I'm concerned, and after that (but well after that) I'd go for Mandrake. Novell have tried to make the look, feel and function as much like Windoze as possible, whereas all the others are still VERY much *nix. As an OS/2 user you have to count yourself as a Windoze user when making the switch. Novel have even aliased all the drives to drive letters by default. Cheers, have fun Kev ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------