From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:01:06 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1009 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Monday 20 December 2004 Number 1009 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: DVD/CD R/W : Ed Durrant 2 Re: MP3, MOD, OGG etc format converters : Paul Smedley 3 Re: Acronis : Kev 4 Re: DVD/CD R/W : Kev 5 Re: MP3, MOD, OGG etc format converters : Kev 6 Re: MP3, MOD, OGG etc format converters : Gavin Miller 7 Re: MP3, MOD, OGG etc format converters : Kev 8 Re: MP3, MOD, OGG etc format converters : David Forrester" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 07:14:00 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: DVD/CD R/W Alan Duval wrote: > Hi again, > > I don't have a DVD/CD R/W and would like to get one if it would work on my system. > > My PC has: > > ASUS P3V133 mother board > 733 Pentium3 CPU > > OS's installed > WIN95 > PC DOS > ECS1.1 > > Looked at a couple today but they all specified WIN98 or later versions of WIN and of course no mentioin of > eCS. > As there's been a lot of discussion about this type of hardware could someone advise me as to a brand that > would work on my system? > Should I upgrade to WIN98 ? I'm not keen on doing this in case some of my programs don't work. The last > time I upgraded IE to IE4 one of my expensive programs would no longer work properly and I couldn't access > files made by it. > I mainly use eCS, so are there drivers and what are the best programs to access DVD/CD R/W. > > Regards > > Alan Duval > For a DVD Burner, I'd recommend the Pioneer range. Not sure if you'll get double layer working, but all other features work fine for me (on my earlier, not DL drive). DVD burners also burn CDs. I wouldn't even look at a CD Burner on its own now as the price of the DVD burners have dropped so much. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 07:01:19 +1030 From: Paul Smedley Subject: Re: MP3, MOD, OGG etc format converters Hi Kev, Kev wrote: > Greetings and salutations > > Can anyone point me at a good, easy to use and reliable program for > converting different sound formats, particularly the 3 mentioned above? I use http://www.dbpoweramp dot com/dmc.htm - works almost perfectly with Odin... Cheers, Paul. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:37:08 +0800 From: Kev Subject: Re: Acronis Hi Alan This is a copy/paste from their site ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Supported operating systems: Windows 98 / Me / NT (including Server) / 2000 (including Server and Advanced Server) / XP / 2003 Server. See here the list of supported operating systems for multibooting. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The list of "... supported operating systems for multibooting." is extensive, but all multiboot managers will do that. It appears to be managed only from Windows. Other than that it looks good. You can download a trial version. There is a freeware Partition Magic clone called Parted, which works perfectly well. I have it on a couple of live Linux CDs, including "The ultimate Boot CD" which has every possible recovery tool on the the one live CD - a freeware CD. There are any number of boot managers, including native OS/2 ones. Graham Utilities have disk editors and a partition backup/recovery tool all of which work superbly and are also OS/2 natives. The only one you have to pay for is Graham Utils, and that's money well spent. It also supports someone who still supports OS/2. Cheers Kev Alan Duval wrote: > Hi all, > > Just noticed Acronis Disk Director software at Harvey Norman. It includes : > > Partition Manager > Boot Manager > Disk Editor > Partition Recovery > > Says it supports all known OS's. and the OS/2 logo is shown amongst others on the front. > > Has anyone tried this software? > > Web site > > Regards > > > Alan Duval > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:26:01 +0800 From: Kev Subject: Re: DVD/CD R/W Hi Alan Ed Durrant wrote: > For a DVD Burner, I'd recommend the Pioneer range. Not sure if you'll get double layer working, but all other > features work fine for me (on my earlier, not DL drive). DVD burners also burn CDs. I agree with him!! I bought a Pioneer DVD writer/rewriter a couple of weeks ago, dual layer and all other things which open and shut for $145.00. Pioneer are the ones which receive the best press usually in the PC magazines. I have the latest RSJ (5.52) and it does double layer DVDs. The Windows compatibility logo issue is a moot point. That logo is put there as a marketing tool. If the drive complies with the ATAPI standard then it'll work on virtually any OS, especially on eCS with Dani's drivers. Mine works a treat. Cheers Kev > > I wouldn't even look at a CD Burner on its own now as the price of the DVD burners have dropped so much. > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:32:51 +0800 From: Kev Subject: Re: MP3, MOD, OGG etc format converters Thanx Paul Paul Smedley wrote: > Kev wrote: > >> Greetings and salutations >> >> Can anyone point me at a good, easy to use and reliable program for >> converting different sound formats, particularly the 3 mentioned above? > > > I use http://www.dbpoweramp dot com/dmc.htm - works almost perfectly with > Odin... I gave up Odin ages back. Does it work any easier now? I do mean easier, coz as you'll have noticed in most of my requests, I'm pretty thick. Does anyone know of any OS/2 natives for the same trick. The main reason is to be able to make music CDs when I only have the files in MP3 format. (I don't have an MP3 player in my car.) This is why I wanted to get MP3 support in the WPS, a trick I've given up on for now. Thanx Kev ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:24:59 +1100 From: Gavin Miller Subject: Re: MP3, MOD, OGG etc format converters Hi Kev, Audio CD's require Wav format, so if all your music is in mp3 format get yourself Z!. I'll mail it to you off list if you like. You have to extract your MP3's to wav to burn a music cd, and Z! integrates with Audio CD creator quite well. If there are any propblems there, then use Z! to extract the audio manually with the W key ie. select the tracks to be extracted and press W instead of P for play. Z! will extract to the same directory as the mp3 file selected. I did have another utility for OGG files to do the same thing, but not any more. I don't use OGG that often so I didn't keep it. I pretty much use wav exclusively. The sound quality is much better ;-) Cheers G Kev wrote: > Thanx Paul > > Paul Smedley wrote: > >> Kev wrote: >> >>> Greetings and salutations >>> >>> Can anyone point me at a good, easy to use and reliable program for >>> converting different sound formats, particularly the 3 mentioned above? >> >> >> >> I use http://www.dbpoweramp dot com/dmc.htm - works almost perfectly with >> Odin... > > > I gave up Odin ages back. Does it work any easier now? I do mean > easier, coz as you'll have noticed in most of my requests, I'm pretty > thick. > > Does anyone know of any OS/2 natives for the same trick. The main > reason is to be able to make music CDs when I only have the files in > MP3 format. (I don't have an MP3 player in my car.) This is why I > wanted to get MP3 support in the WPS, a trick I've given up on for now. > > Thanx > Kev > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:09:06 +0800 From: Kev Subject: Re: MP3, MOD, OGG etc format converters Hi Gavin Thanx for your reply. I have Z! somewhere here I think. It's just getting the MP3s into a useable format for the equipment I have that I need, so if Z! does it I'm in. I'd still like to get MP3 support working in the WPS if I can. Any formats the WPS recognizes are inter-convertible(?), turning MP3s into OGGs or WAVs becomes a piece of cake. Fwiw RSJ will rip music CDs to either WAV or OGG, you choose at the time, and will burn Music CDs from either WAV or OGG. OGGs are much better quality than MP3s and about 10% of the size of WAVs and the sound output isn't (to my ears at least) detectable from WAV format. Hence I tend to use OGG much more on my Computer. However I want to burn some CDs for in the car, and my car system doesn't do MP3 or OGG, and some of the tracks I want to burn I can only get/have in MP3 format. (eg Radar Love - Golden Earing) Thanx again Kev Gavin Miller wrote: > Audio CD's require Wav format, so if all your music is in mp3 format get > yourself Z!. I'll mail it to you off list if you like. You have to > extract your MP3's to wav to burn a music cd, and Z! integrates with > Audio CD creator quite well. If there are any propblems there, then use > Z! to extract the audio manually with the W key ie. select the tracks to > be extracted and press W instead of P for play. Z! will extract to the > same directory as the mp3 file selected. I did have another utility for > OGG files to do the same thing, but not any more. I don't use OGG that > often so I didn't keep it. I pretty much use wav exclusively. The > sound quality is much better ;-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:19:35 +1100 (EDT) From: "David Forrester" Subject: Re: MP3, MOD, OGG etc format converters On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:09:06 +0800, Kev wrote: > >Thanx for your reply. I have Z! somewhere here I think. It's just >getting the MP3s into a useable format for the equipment I have that I >need, so if Z! does it I'm in. I'd still like to get MP3 support >working in the WPS if I can. Any formats the WPS recognizes are >inter-convertible(?), turning MP3s into OGGs or WAVs becomes a piece of >cake. > >Fwiw RSJ will rip music CDs to either WAV or OGG, you choose at the >time, and will burn Music CDs from either WAV or OGG. OGGs are much >better quality than MP3s and about 10% of the size of WAVs and the sound >output isn't (to my ears at least) detectable from WAV format. Hence I >tend to use OGG much more on my Computer. However I want to burn some >CDs for in the car, and my car system doesn't do MP3 or OGG, and some of >the tracks I want to burn I can only get/have in MP3 format. (eg Radar >Love - Golden Earing) I've never done it, but, "Audio/Data-CD-Creator" from Chris Wohlgemuth has the ability to do exactly what you want. Get it from . -- David Forrester davidfor at internode.on dot net http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------