From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:01:09 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1015 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Monday 27 December 2004 Number 1015 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: Logon tip was DNS?? : John Angelico" 2 Re: Logon tip was DNS?? : Gavin Miller 3 System Trash can : Dennis Nolan 4 Re: Logon tip was DNS?? : Dennis Nolan **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:22:13 +1100 (AEDT) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: Logon tip was DNS?? On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 10:35:38 +1100, Dennis Nolan wrote: > >Just for something different: >If you still have that black command line window during power up and >don't mind an automatic log in with userid and password, do the following: >Copy the log on object to the startup folder, open the preferences and >in the parameters field enter >yourUserID /P:yourPassWord /V:L Better still if you set it up as a command line session (call it MyLogon.cmd or something else to your liking) and in the body type it as at C:\MUGLIB\LOGON.EXE yourUserID /P:yourPassWord /V:L Then the command is NOT echoed to the screen and your passwords are just that little bit less visible to world+dog Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... Basic programmers never die. They just GOSUB without RETURN! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 16:42:25 +1100 From: Gavin Miller Subject: Re: Logon tip was DNS?? Doesn't the router handle login if it's used as a gateway? Cheers G John Angelico wrote: >On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 10:35:38 +1100, Dennis Nolan wrote: > > > >>Just for something different: >>If you still have that black command line window during power up and >>don't mind an automatic log in with userid and password, do the following: >>Copy the log on object to the startup folder, open the preferences and >>in the parameters field enter >>yourUserID /P:yourPassWord /V:L >> >> > >Better still if you set it up as a command line session (call it MyLogon.cmd >or something else to your liking) and in the body type it as > at C:\MUGLIB\LOGON.EXE yourUserID /P:yourPassWord /V:L >Then the command is NOT echoed to the screen and your passwords are just that >little bit less visible to world+dog > > >Best regards >John Angelico >OS/2 SIG >os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or >talldad at kepl dot com dot au >___________________ > >PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico >... Basic programmers never die. They just GOSUB without RETURN! > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 19:37:48 +1100 From: Dennis Nolan Subject: System Trash can Hi all I've just spent most of today emptying the trash At the end I found out what the cause of the problem was. But to the start Symptoms: Clicking on the trashcan icon resulted in a details container window opening and it being filled up with deleted objects, however before completing the desktop would collapse and restart. Same thing for the Trash can icon context menu (right clicking the icon) The collecting objects dialog would appear followed shortly after by a desktop reset. Cause of the problem: Two files with very long file names These files were in the old cache that belonged to sCache, something that I haven't used for over a year. If I recall there was a windows vulnerability that was exploited by causing IA to spit the dummy, and extremely long filenames with several "dots" seems like a chance to do IA mischief. Like everything I had to go through a lot of pain before the cause and solution was found. The problem was that I couldn't empty the trash can. The four things needed to solve this problem are A The command-line, attrib -H command, to unhide files and directories B The Shift-Delete command to Delete an object and not just move it to the trash can C The Ctrl-S Command to bring up the Select by name dialog D The System Menu -> folder actions -> show tree size command which brings up a display of all objects with their names and sizes, sorted by size. Assuming that the cause of the problem is a too long a file name, you have to shorten it. Unfortunately it cannot be done without shortening the path to it. So do the following. Do "A". This will make the trash folder visible when the drive object is opened. Do "D". Then just keep expanding the tree to find the file/s with very long file names When a likely object id found we need to shorten the names of it and it's path folders. To do this open the drive object and the trash folder. The trash folder will appear empty so do "C", enter the name of the first trash sub-directory in the path, click "Select" followed by "Close", then when back at the Trash folder press "Enter" The objects in this and subsequent folders are visible, so the "Select by Name" is only required for the trash folder. Drill down through the folders until the target file is found. On the way change/shorten the name of some of the folders (Alt-Enter), and then change/shorten the name of the target file. Select the file and do "B"(Shift-Delete). If it doesn't delete, either you haven't shortened the path/filename enough, or something different is the cause of the problem. Back-out and select trash in the drive folder and Shift-Delete it. If trash is not deleted then repeat until it is. When I did it I didn't know what the cause was and so started deleting directories until the desktop reset itself and through a process of elimination was left with the two files which I was unable to delete. I was also unable to change their names. I was resolved to leave them there until while writing this I remembered that there is a MaxFilePart as well as a MaxFilePath constant, and so tried changing directory names. Thankfully this worked. I've turned the trashcan off, I've never really had reason to use it. I've checked my other drives/partitions, same deal, more space taken up by deleted files than by valid files. Regards Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 19:47:06 +1100 From: Dennis Nolan Subject: Re: Logon tip was DNS?? Gavin Miller wrote: > Doesn't the router handle login if it's used as a gateway? > > Cheers > G > Well the ADSL modem handles the login to your ISP (WAN) and the internal DNS server looks after your LAN Though where the Router ends and the ADSL modem starts is debatable. Suffice it to say that once the Router/Modem is programmed, regardless of which OS is used, it's available for all OS's. Regards Dennis. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------