From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 00:01:10 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1049 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Sunday 13 February 2005 Number 1049 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 ADSL setup : Kev 2 Re: Terminology & requests : Kris Steenhaut 3 Re: Terminology & requests : Kris Steenhaut 4 Re: Ethernet adapters : Kris Steenhaut 5 Re: Ethernet adapters : Mike O'Connor 6 Re: Ethernet adapters : Dennis Nolan 7 Re: Router setup : Dennis Nolan 8 Re: Fonts and Printing : Paul Smedley 9 Re: Ethernet adapters : Ed Durrant 10 Re: Fwd: Re: Ethernet adapters : Ed Durrant 11 Re: Ethernet adapters : Ed Durrant 12 Re: Ethernet adapters : Ed Durrant 13 Re: Terminology & requests : Ed Durrant 14 Warp 4 Installation : Peter 15 Re: Ethernet adapters : Ed Durrant 16 Re: Warp 4 Installation : Ed Durrant 17 Re: Warp 4 Installation : Ed Durrant 18 Re: Warp 4 Installation : Mike O'Connor 19 Re: Warp 4 Installation : Peter 20 Re: Warp 4 Installation : Ed Durrant 21 Re: Warp 4 Installation : Mike O'Connor 22 Re: Warp 4 Installation : Peter 23 Re: Warp 4 Installation : Peter 24 Re: Warp 4 Installation : Mike O'Connor 25 Re: Warp 4 Installation : Mike O'Connor 26 Re: Warp 4 Installation : Peter 27 Re: Warp 4 Installation : Mike O'Connor 28 Re: Warp 4 Installation : nickl at pacific dot net dot au 29 Re: Warp 4 Installation : Peter 30 Re: Warp 4 Installation : Mike O'Connor 31 Re: Ethernet adapters : Alan Duval" 32 Re: Fonts and Printing : David Shearer 33 Re: Ethernet adapters : Peter Pigott" 34 Router setup : Alan Duval" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:19:05 +0800 From: Kev Subject: ADSL setup Hello all Alan's ADSL setup thread has now split into several threads (in my Mozilla Mail at least). This is my attempt to bring it all back under a common thread to keep all the suggestions etc linear. My pea brain needs this. Here's a re-post of my last message, which I see has been seconded by Gavin Miller. Hi Alan Alan Duval wrote: > > At one stage this morning I was able to get into this address. This > occurred after reinstalling eCS from an image and then going through > the procedure that Ed gave. I rebooted and a message came up saying > the Ethernet adapter cable was not connected? As my NIC card was in > place and the router connected I checked the MPTS configuration and > noted that in the Adapter and Protocol Configuration window in the > Review current configuration section it showed: > > No Network Adapter > > 0 - IBM TCP/IP > > SURECOMP-320X-R 100/10 MPCI Adapter > > 1 - IBM TCP/IP > > I deleted the second line 0 - IBM TCP/IP and then deleted "No Network > Adapter", exited and rebooted. Please note: This (below) is what should be in the "Stage 3 - Review Current Configuration" in the "Adapter and Protocol Configuration" window. If you have only 1 NIC installed, it is NIC number 0 (zero), and it must have 1 (or more - but only 1 for now please) corresponding protocols installed. Hence the ZERO in front of the line ... 0 - IBM TCP/IP SURECOMP-320X-R 100/10 MPCI Adapter 0 - IBM TCP/IP There should be NO OTHER LINES in that window. Kev ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:05:26 +0100 From: Kris Steenhaut Subject: Re: Terminology & requests Alan Duval schreef: >Hi, > >When a NIC card is installed and a Router connected to connect to an ISP where do the Host IP and >Destination IP address belong to? > You shouldn't have and you don't have to bother about that. It's not important, and most of all, you are now at step 7 whereas step 3 isn't braught to a good end yet. > Im confused as to which is the host. I think I am going to have to enter the >Host and destination addresses and NIC card address in the TCPCFG2 and MPTS configuration to get any > > You don't and you shouldn't have to bother about IP addresses, other than the IP address of your router. >What should be put in these boxes ? > > You shouldn't even look at it. -- Groeten uit Gent, Kris ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:16:05 +0100 From: Kris Steenhaut Subject: Re: Terminology & requests Kev schreef: > Alan > > I apologize. I see that I'm becoming a little exasperated. If all else > fails contact me. I did EXACTLY this install <3 months ago. > Well, what I was afraid for happened. Alan couldn't wait a bit, and applied at random all sorts of correct and incorrect advises the one trough the other (mailed him pivately already. Allow me to sum up: - The router is set to DHCP by default indeed (why don't the knowledgebles don't know that??) - he already entered in the browser-setup pages of the router. So hardware and everything is OK. - but forgot to backup to good settings which were lostfor one reason or another after reboot. So it sounds very obvious to me he redo the step (step 3) and recreate the circomstances where it worked OK. Wouldn't you say so too? Problem is, instead of recreating the good environment he has applied tons of undue advises meanwhile, making it extremely difficult to recreate to good envirenment. And it could have been so easy ... -- Groeten uit Gent, Kris ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:46:06 +0100 From: Kris Steenhaut Subject: Re: Ethernet adapters Mike O'Connor schreef: > > Hi Alan, > > On the [cover] page of TCP/IP Configuration Notebook, untick the DHCP > [automatic] setting and tick [Manually] and enter above dotted I.P. > numbers in there with netmask of 255.255.255.0. > Oh boy, you really want to knock him down, don't you (((-: -- Groeten uit Gent, Kris ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 23:52:01 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: Ethernet adapters Kris Steenhaut wrote: > Mike O'Connor schreef: > >> Hi Alan, >> >> On the [cover] page of TCP/IP Configuration Notebook, untick the DHCP >> [automatic] setting and tick [Manually] and enter above dotted I.P. >> numbers in there with netmask of 255.255.255.0. > > Oh boy, you really want to knock him down, don't you (((-: Kris, Read the question/request before you read the answer and give a stupid response! -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, * dot com, *.bat, *.reg attachments] [Please use zipped versions of above] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 07:38:19 +1100 From: Dennis Nolan Subject: Re: Ethernet adapters Mike O'Connor wrote: > Kris Steenhaut wrote: > >> Mike O'Connor schreef: >> >>> Hi Alan, >>> >>> On the [cover] page of TCP/IP Configuration Notebook, untick the >>> DHCP [automatic] setting and tick [Manually] and enter above dotted >>> I.P. numbers in there with netmask of 255.255.255.0. >> >> >> Oh boy, you really want to knock him down, don't you (((-: > > > Kris, > > Read the question/request before you read the answer and give a stupid > response! > Also Kris, remember the reason for doing what was suggested. There is no DHCPMON.INI file created and this suggests that the DHCP monitor program is not running or not getting a response from the router. Hence, setting up without DHCP. This is the third day, everyone has been saying do this , do that, do something else. Unless Alan is truly unlucky, by now, this should have been sorted out. To me this indicates that there may be a problem with the router Also in eCS 1.2 there seems to be support for USB Ethernet, in IBMCOM\MACS are files USBETHER.NIF & USBETHER.OS2, I have never used them, but maybe one weekend when I'm feeling particularly maschocistic I'll give it a try. Regards Dennis. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:12:23 +1100 From: Dennis Nolan Subject: Re: Router setup Alan I thought that previously you reported that the adapter was working Alan Duval wrote: >On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 20:22:53 +1100, Dennis Nolan wrote: > > > >>Alan >>From memory Resolve2 gives the results of the resolve process, so if it >>is blank it means that you are connected to nothing >> >>But I could be wrong >> >>Also from memory your MIC should be adapter 0 not 1 >> >>however in C:\ibmcom\LanTran.log you should find the configuration of >>the adapter >>Specificly you should get something like >> >>TCPBEUI: Logical adapter 0 is bound to TCP/IP interface lan0. >>Adapter 1 is using node address 00051C169DD0. The Token-Ring format is >>00A03868B90B. >> >> > > >This is all I get: >LT00073: FFST/2 is installed but is not started. LANTRAN.LOG is being created. >IBM OS/2 LANMSGDD [05/21/04] 6.00 is loaded and operational. >IBM OS/2 LAN Netbind > > > This confirms that the adapter is not initialising This is what I have in my lantrans.log LT00073: FFST/2 is installed but is not started. LANTRAN.LOG is being created. IBM OS/2 LANMSGDD [05/21/04] 6.00 is loaded and operational. IBM - OS/2 Socket/MPTS Common Transport Semantics IBM OS/2 NETBEUI 6.00.0 NETBEUI: Using a 32-bit data segment. IBM OS/2 TCPBEUI 6.00.0 TCPBEUI: Using a 32-bit data segment. Installing NETWKSTA.200 Version 6.0. IBM LAN Redirector ( Oct 10, 2001) IBM OS/2 NETBIOS 4.0 Adapter 0 has 123 NCBs, 96 sessions, and 6 names available to NETBIOS applications. Adapter 1 has 123 NCBs, 96 sessions, and 6 names available to NETBIOS applications. NETBIOS 4.0 is loaded and operational. Loading Realtek Fast Ethernet Network Adapter driver (3.23vk) [2004-07-28] Vendor=10EC,10EC Dev.=8139,8139 Bus/Dev/Func-No= 0/11/0 EtherID= at 00051C169DD0 The chip is RTL8100B/8139D. Network Line Speed is 100 Mbps / Full-Duplex Mode. Link configuration: Auto Negotiation enabled. Flow Control: Transmit:Disabled, Receive:Disabled. Parameters: IOBase = 0xD800 Interrupt Level = 10 IBM LANVDD is loaded and operational. IBM OS/2 LAN Netbind IBM - OS/2 Socket/MPTS NetBios Service Driver TCPBEUI: Logical adapter 0 is bound to TCP/IP interface lan0. Adapter 1 is using node address 00051C169DD0. The Token-Ring format is 00A03868B90B. Until you get the lantran.log reporting successful initialisation of the NIC nothing has a hope of working. I think we need to see what is in the MPTS configuration So From the desktop: Local System - System Setup - Networks - Adapters and Protocols Select Configure MPTS, check that LAN Adapter Protocols is still selected and click on the Configure button. This will bring up the Configuration dialog Copy and report what is in the two bottom windows, that is the stage 2 and stage 3 windows. To get out of the configuration dialog without altering anything click cancel - cancel - and then Close. Also just to save time can you send a copy of your config.sys too. Send it all, better too much than missing the important line through ignorance. Regards Dennis. Regards Dennis. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:27:03 +1030 From: Paul Smedley Subject: Re: Fonts and Printing Hi David, David Shearer wrote: > I have an Epson C61 USB Printer which works fine under eCs - using EPNOMI drivers. However I have > been trying to print with different fonts selected in a word processing document (eg wordpro). However I do > not get the results I expect when I print the page. > > What is the trick with printing? - I have installed True Type fonts in addition to PS Fonts etc. They come up > in Wordpro but when printed they all resemble Times new roman or courier. > > Anyone got anyideas? I know that this isn't particularly helpful, but my USB connected C61 prints any fonts thrown at it. Got a particular document/font that's giving you grief? Cheers, Paul. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 09:57:32 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Ethernet adapters Alan Duval wrote: > >> >>Might I suggest the first thing is that at boot up a message is >>displayed indicating that no DHCP server is found. Once this message >>goes away, i would expect things to work "straight away". > > > Don't see any message " no DHCP server found" only the message: > DHCPSTART: DHCP client did not get parameters. DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in background.. Press > Enter to continue" > > If you read what I said again - you'll see I said "indicating that no DHCP server is found" - The message yoy have is what I am referring too. > >>One thing to clarify, is this an ADSL MOdem or a router ?? > > > It's a BIPAC 5100 ADSL Router with 4-port Switch > OK - so a "straight" cat-5 UTP-UTP cable from your ethernet card in your PC to any one of the 4 LAN ports on the router, should be in place (was this cable supplied with the "box" ? If you've used another cable, please make sure it is NOT a cross-over cable - to do this look at both plugs and check that the same coloured wires are going to each pin at both ends. > >>Also to check if indeed an address has been assigned to the card the >>command: >> >>IFCONFIG LAN0 >> >>can be typed at the command line. > > > > Says: > > lan0 flags=108843 > inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xffffffff > > What does that mean? > This means the card has no IP address assigned (inet 0.0.0.0 will change to a valid IP address once your system can talk to the DHCP server). Which we know it still isn't by the message you are getting when the system boots. > > Alan > > OK what we can do, to test, is go into TCPCFG2 again from the commandline again and click on the "manually using" button and enter in the IP Address Field an address in the correct range - we'll use 192.168.1.100 now in the field subnet mask, type 255.255.255.0 Now click the Routing tab of the notebook and you will be taken to another page. On this page click ADD and then click on the Default raidio button in the Route Type section and enter in the Router Address field 192.168.1.254 Click OK three times to return to the command line. Now restart your PC. The DHCPSTART: DHCP client did not get parameters. DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in background.. Press > Enter to continue" message should not be displayed this time. What we have done now is set a "static IP" address on this machine, from which we should be able to get to the ADSL router to check its configuration. NOTE HOWEVER, as we have not entered any DNS (Domain Name Server) addresses, once ADSL is connected, you wont be able to go to websites by simply typing their name using this configuration, s the system doesn't know where the "index" is to find out IP Addresses. We're only setting up this configuration so that we can check that everything is set ready for when the ADSL is connected. Once the system has fully rebooted, go to your web browser and type in 192.168.1.254 as the address and hopefully you'll either get a prompt to log in or be taken directly to the configuration page. Let us all know if/when you get this far. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:01:19 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Ethernet adapters Kev wrote: > Kris, Alan or any other interested parties, > > Should Alan have a look in his HOSTS file and his RESOLV2 file. Below > are copy/pastes of mine. > > HOSTS file ... > > 127.0.0.1 localhost > > > RESOLV2 file ... > > domain > nameserver 192.168.1.254 > > If I'm on the wrong track stop me now. > > Kev > > Thanks for the suggestion Kev, but not relevant at this stage. As you will have seen in another reply, I've instructed Alan how to set up in static IP mode, so we can check if indeed the ONLY problem is the DHCP server. We should all remember that this router is not yet attached to ADSL and hence may operate differently to those who have one already fully connected. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:07:12 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Ethernet adapters Gavin Miller wrote: > Hi Alan, > > What Kev sugessted should work, but seeing as it didn't, allow me to > offer this suggestion. I don't mean to be critical or condecending so > forgive me if it sounds so, but... > > Go into MPTS and check everything there. If you have two NIC entries; > one being 0 the other 1, make sure the entry that describes the NIC card > has TCP/IP as a protocol and the other does not. It may well be that > adapter 0 may be NULL and have TCP/IP as it's protocol and confusing. > It might even be worth removing the NULL adapter and renumbering your > NIC adapter to 0 or even removing all adapters and reinstall them. It's > a long shot here as OS/2 is supposed to handle multiple NIC's quite > well, but we have to get you going ;-) > > Another thing that just hit me as I write this. If you NIC is adapter 1 > then enableing adapter 0 in TCP/IP config is no good. It needs to > match. ( see waht I mean about condecending. Sorry ). > > Cheers > G > >> Hi Gavin, if that was the case, I think he'd have other error messages during system boot, which he doesn't have. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:27:44 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Ethernet adapters Hi Alan, I think Kev's comments earlier about having only one connection defined (or at least ensuring we are configuring the SAM connection in MPTS and TCPCFG2) is the base of the problems. If you have now made your ethernet card device 0 in MPTS and have the TCPIP protocol (only for the time being) assigned to it, then the first interface in TCPCFG2 relates to this. If you have your ethernet card still as device 1 in MPTS, then within TCPCFG2 you need to configure the second interface, not the first. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:28:31 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Terminology & requests Alan Duval wrote: > Hi, > > When a NIC card is installed and a Router connected to connect to an ISP where do the Host IP and > Destination IP address belong to? Im confused as to which is the host. I think I am going to have to enter the > Host and destination addresses and NIC card address in the TCPCFG2 and MPTS configuration to get any > further. > > In MPTS I note that in the Adapter and Protocol Configuration window when IBM TCP/IP is highlighted and > edit button pressed a window comes up asking for a network Interface Type which has to be a decimal > number. When the SURECOM driver is highlighted and edit pressed a window comes up asking for: > > Medium Type ( _AUTO is in this box at present) > Network adapter address > Node address > Bus number > Device number > Early Tx Threshold FIFO: > > What should be put in these boxes ? > > Regards > > Alan Leave them all as is ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 14 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:47:20 +1100 From: Peter Subject: Warp 4 Installation Hi all, I've been trying to install Warp 4 HPFS on an old pc: a Dell pent III 450 with a 38gb hard drive. I want to put it on the second c: partition (about 2gb). Windows 98SE is on the first partition taking up about 4gb. Upon reboot the first time, after typing a:/fixvga c:, it spins forever & a day. Its at 563 cylinders. The pc originally had a 6.4gb hard drive & Warp 4 installed no problems at all. 98SE was on first partition on that drive too. I've never ever had this problem before, not on a pent III 550 with a 30gb hard drive either. Btw, I use System Commander 7 with which I've never had any problems. Any ideas? Thanks Peter Calman ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 15 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Ethernet adapters Ed Durrant wrote: > Hi Alan, > > I think Kev's comments earlier about having only one connection defined > (or at least ensuring we are configuring the SAM connection in MPTS and > TCPCFG2) is the base of the problems. > To avoid confusion "SAM" is not some new networking term... This should have said SAME. > If you have now made your ethernet card device 0 in MPTS and have the > TCPIP protocol (only for the time being) assigned to it, then the first > interface in TCPCFG2 relates to this. If you have your ethernet card > still as device 1 in MPTS, then within TCPCFG2 you need to configure the > second interface, not the first. > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 16 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:05:32 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Warp 4 Installation Peter wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been trying to install Warp 4 HPFS on an old pc: a Dell pent III > 450 with a 38gb hard drive. > I want to put it on the second c: partition (about 2gb). Windows 98SE > is on the first partition taking up about 4gb. > Upon reboot the first time, after typing a:/fixvga c:, it spins forever > & a day. Its at 563 cylinders. Are you sure that the C: drive being addressed from your DOS floppy is the OS/2 Warp 4 partition, not that C: is point at the Win98 partition ?? Also WHY are you trying to reset OS/2 video to VGA if you're only at the install stage ?? Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 17 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:06:57 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Warp 4 Installation Ed Durrant wrote: > Peter wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I've been trying to install Warp 4 HPFS on an old pc: a Dell pent III >> 450 with a 38gb hard drive. >> I want to put it on the second c: partition (about 2gb). Windows 98SE >> is on the first partition taking up about 4gb. >> Upon reboot the first time, after typing a:/fixvga c:, it spins >> forever & a day. Its at 563 cylinders. > > > Are you sure that the C: drive being addressed from your DOS floppy is > the OS/2 Warp 4 partition, not that C: is point at the Win98 partition ?? > That should read OS/2 floppy, not DOS floppy of course. > Also WHY are you trying to reset OS/2 video to VGA if you're only at > the install stage ?? > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 18 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:18:19 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: Warp 4 Installation Peter wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been trying to install Warp 4 HPFS on an old pc: a Dell pent III > 450 with a 38gb hard drive. > I want to put it on the second c: partition (about 2gb). Windows 98SE > is on the first partition taking up about 4gb. > Upon reboot the first time, after typing a:/fixvga c:, it spins > forever & a day. Its at 563 cylinders. > > The pc originally had a 6.4gb hard drive & Warp 4 installed no > problems at all. 98SE was on first partition on that drive too. > > I've never ever had this problem before, not on a pent III 550 with a > 30gb hard drive either. > > Btw, I use System Commander 7 with which I've never had any problems. [ Same here! > > Any ideas? > > Thanks > Peter Calman Hi Peter, Am a little bit confused -- unfamiliar with any OS/2 program "fixvga"! =-O Were you getting it confused with the "setvga.cmd"? What does fixvga on the floppy actually do? Did you boot through SC7.0x for the installation? I.E. have SC7 active at first reboot? As long as you don't let LVM/MCPx get at the MBR and insert the I13X code there for large drives, SC7 can handle that OK, but overwriting the MBR with current generation IBM BM will cause SC7 to fail! Some motherboard BIOSes can't see past 32GB and require you to artificially limit the drive with a jumper to that figure! Once you have the OS/2 W4 [FP?] installed, you can use DANIS506.ADD tosee the balance of the drive! What HDD *.ADD driver are you using DANIS506 or IBM1S506? Is that any assistance? -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, * dot com, *.bat, *.reg attachments] [Please use zipped versions of above] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 19 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:26:39 +1100 From: Peter Subject: Re: Warp 4 Installation Ed Durrant wrote: > Peter wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I've been trying to install Warp 4 HPFS on an old pc: a Dell pent III >> 450 with a 38gb hard drive. >> I want to put it on the second c: partition (about 2gb). Windows >> 98SE is on the first partition taking up about 4gb. >> Upon reboot the first time, after typing a:/fixvga c:, it spins >> forever & a day. Its at 563 cylinders. > > > Are you sure that the C: drive being addressed from your DOS floppy > is the OS/2 Warp 4 partition, not that C: is point at the Win98 > partition ?? > See my answer to your question below in relation to the answer here. After typing a:/fixvga c:, the files copied from the floppy dont appear in 98SE's c: drive. But unfortunately, viewing via Windows Explorer, i cant see if the files are on the supposed Warp drive becasue HPFS isnt viewable whereas if it was installed as FAT16, it would be. > Also WHY are you trying to reset OS/2 video to VGA if you're only at > the install stage ?? > Because its in the instructions (which I've used all the time) for the updated installation disks - excerpt as follows: 4. Continue installing OS/2 Warp 4 until you are prompted to restart your computer for the first time. 5. When you are prompted to restart your computer, do not proceed. 6. Press F3 key to go to the command prompt screen. 7. At the command prompt screen, type the following command to run the batch file (the batch file is available on Install Disk2 update): A:\FIXVGA.CMD x: where, x: denotes the boot drive of OS/2 Warp 4 and press ENTER. In other words, the drive letter to which you are installing OS/2 Warp 4. 8. Type EXIT, then press Enter key to go back to the previous screen. 9. Remove the diskette from the floppy drive. 10. Press Enter key to restart your computer. 11. Continue installing OS/2 Warp 4. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 20 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:31:53 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Warp 4 Installation Peter wrote: > > > Ed Durrant wrote: > >> Peter wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I've been trying to install Warp 4 HPFS on an old pc: a Dell pent III >>> 450 with a 38gb hard drive. >>> I want to put it on the second c: partition (about 2gb). Windows >>> 98SE is on the first partition taking up about 4gb. >>> Upon reboot the first time, after typing a:/fixvga c:, it spins >>> forever & a day. Its at 563 cylinders. >> >> >> >> Are you sure that the C: drive being addressed from your DOS floppy >> is the OS/2 Warp 4 partition, not that C: is point at the Win98 >> partition ?? >> > > See my answer to your question below in relation to the answer here. > After typing a:/fixvga c:, the files copied from the floppy dont appear > in 98SE's c: drive. But unfortunately, viewing via Windows Explorer, i > cant see if the files are on the supposed Warp drive becasue HPFS isnt > viewable whereas if it was installed as FAT16, it would be. > >> Also WHY are you trying to reset OS/2 video to VGA if you're only at >> the install stage ?? >> > Because its in the instructions (which I've used all the time) for the > updated installation disks - excerpt as follows: > > > 4. Continue installing OS/2 Warp 4 until you are prompted to restart > your computer for the first time. > > 5. When you are prompted to restart your computer, do not proceed. > > 6. Press F3 key to go to the command prompt screen. > > 7. At the command prompt screen, type the following command to run the > batch file (the batch file is available on Install Disk2 update): > A:\FIXVGA.CMD x: > where, x: denotes the boot drive of OS/2 Warp 4 and press ENTER. In > other words, the drive letter to which you are installing OS/2 Warp 4. > > 8. Type EXIT, then press Enter key to go back to the previous screen. > > 9. Remove the diskette from the floppy drive. > > 10. Press Enter key to restart your computer. > > 11. Continue installing OS/2 Warp 4. > > So you're installing the old Warp 4, not Convience pack. I never had to use FIXVGA back then. The only FIXVGA I can think of,was one to address a problem on Thinkpad systems. I would try proceding without running FIXVGA at all. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 21 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:39:17 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: Warp 4 Installation Peter wrote: > Ed Durrant wrote: > >> Peter wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I've been trying to install Warp 4 HPFS on an old pc: a Dell pent >>> III 450 with a 38gb hard drive. >>> I want to put it on the second c: partition (about 2gb). Windows >>> 98SE is on the first partition taking up about 4gb. >>> Upon reboot the first time, after typing a:/fixvga c:, it spins >>> forever & a day. Its at 563 cylinders. >> >> Are you sure that the C: drive being addressed from your DOS floppy >> is the OS/2 Warp 4 partition, not that C: is point at the Win98 >> partition ?? > > See my answer to your question below in relation to the answer here. > After typing a:/fixvga c:, the files copied from the floppy dont > appear in 98SE's c: drive. But unfortunately, viewing via Windows > Explorer, i cant see if the files are on the supposed Warp drive > becasue HPFS isnt viewable whereas if it was installed as FAT16, it > would be. > >> Also WHY are you trying to reset OS/2 video to VGA if you're only >> at the install stage ?? > > Because its in the instructions (which I've used all the time) for the > updated installation disks - excerpt as follows: > > 4. Continue installing OS/2 Warp 4 until you are prompted to restart > your computer for the first time. > > 5. When you are prompted to restart your computer, do not proceed. > > 6. Press F3 key to go to the command prompt screen. > > 7. At the command prompt screen, type the following command to run the > batch file (the batch file is available on Install Disk2 update): > A:\FIXVGA.CMD x: > where, x: denotes the boot drive of OS/2 Warp 4 and press ENTER. In > other words, the drive letter to which you are installing OS/2 Warp 4. > > 8. Type EXIT, then press Enter key to go back to the previous screen. > > 9. Remove the diskette from the floppy drive. > > 10. Press Enter key to restart your computer. > > 11. Continue installing OS/2 Warp 4. Hi Peter, Is this a non-CD W4 install [all * floppies?] See my other questions posted previously . -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, * dot com, *.bat, *.reg attachments] [Please use zipped versions of above] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 22 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:54:19 +1100 From: Peter Subject: Re: Warp 4 Installation Mike O'Connor wrote: > > > Hi Peter, > > Am a little bit confused -- unfamiliar with any OS/2 program "fixvga"! > =-O > Were you getting it confused with the "setvga.cmd"? > No...see my reply to Ed's mail. > What does fixvga on the floppy actually do? > You tell ME! Wouldnt have the faintest. > Did you boot through SC7.0x for the installation? I.E. have SC7 active > at first reboot? Yes to both questions. > As long as you don't let LVM/MCPx get at the MBR and insert the I13X > code there for large drives, SC7 can handle that OK, but overwriting > the MBR with current generation IBM BM will cause SC7 to fail! > You've lost me here. SC7 doesnt deal with LVM/MCPx...well not that I know of. And if it did, I've never seen anything about it at all. > Some motherboard BIOSes can't see past 32GB and require you to > artificially limit the drive with a jumper to that figure! If that was the case, how come the BIOS auto-detected the new drive when I installed it? Or that doesnt matter? > Once you have the OS/2 W4 [FP?] installed, you can use DANIS506.ADD > tosee the balance of the drive! > Yes, ONCE i have it installed. Thats the problem, getting it installed. What HDD *.ADD driver are you using DANIS506 or IBM1S506? Dont know. All I know is that the updated install disks have always worked without any adding or deleting files whether on the floppies or hard drive. > Is that any assistance? > In reply to your later mail: "Is this a non-CD W4 install [all * floppies?] " The genuine Real McCoy Warp 4 cd from IBM Sorry if some of my answers seem to be on the defensive. Read them as sarcastically humourous. Thanks & cheers & regards Peter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 23 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:14:40 +1100 From: Peter Subject: Re: Warp 4 Installation I'll try setvga & see what happens. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 24 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:50:47 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: Warp 4 Installation Peter wrote: > I'll try setvga & see what happens. Hi Peter, Having just looked through the original 3*W4 diskettes, I don't recollect seeing it on them, although they should have been eventually copied to your Warp C: drive. It's so many years now since I did an actual Warp4 installation, I've forgotten just how many reboots there are starting from the [2nd?] floppy, until installation is finished. How recent is that set of updated installation diskettes? So you will have a Warp4 GA installation without any Fixpacks, but some drivers updated as on the floppies. -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, * dot com, *.bat, *.reg attachments] [Please use zipped versions of above] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 25 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:02:18 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: Warp 4 Installation Peter wrote: > Mike O'Connor wrote: > >> Hi Peter, >> >> Am a little bit confused -- unfamiliar with any OS/2 program >> "fixvga"! =-O >> Were you getting it confused with the "setvga.cmd"? > > No...see my reply to Ed's mail. > >> What does fixvga on the floppy actually do? > > You tell ME! Wouldnt have the faintest. Have a look inside the fixvga.cmd file with Win98's Notepad! > Did you boot through SC7.0x for the installation? I.E. have SC7 active > at first reboot? > > Yes to both questions. > OK! >> As long as you don't let LVM/MCPx get at the MBR and insert the I13X >> code there for large drives, SC7 can handle that OK, but overwriting >> the MBR with current generation IBM BM will cause SC7 to fail! > > > You've lost me here. SC7 doesnt deal with LVM/MCPx...well not that I > know of. Unfortunately I can confirm that from "talking" to Frank Van Gilluwe who wrote it. > And if it did, I've never seen anything about it at all. > >> Some motherboard BIOSes can't see past 32GB and require you to >> artificially limit the drive with a jumper to that figure! > > > > If that was the case, how come the BIOS auto-detected the new drive > when I installed it? Or that doesnt matter? Well obviously the BIOS handles that 40x10^9 byte drive OK, so OS/2 won't have any problems with its size either as long as the diskette updates are recent. > >> Once you have the OS/2 W4 [FP?] installed, you can use DANIS506.ADD >> tosee the balance of the drive! > > Yes, ONCE i have it installed. Thats the problem, getting it installed. > > What HDD *.ADD driver are you using DANIS506 or IBM1S506? > > Dont know. Stock is IBM1S506.ADD - - look inside the config.sys file on one of the diskettes in W98 Notepad.exe > All I know is that the updated install disks have always worked > without any adding or deleting files whether on the floppies or hard > drive. > In reply to your later mail: > > "Is this a non-CD W4 install [all * floppies?] " > > The genuine Real McCoy Warp 4 cd from IBM > > > Sorry if some of my answers seem to be on the defensive. Read them as > sarcastically humourous. no problems :-) Hi Peter, Had to go dig out my W4 Box and check just what was on the Installation Diskette and Diskettes 1 and 2! -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, * dot com, *.bat, *.reg attachments] [Please use zipped versions of above] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 26 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:31:02 +1100 From: Peter Subject: Re: Warp 4 Installation Hi Mike Mike O'Connor wrote: > > > Hi Peter, > > Having just looked through the original 3*W4 diskettes, I don't > recollect seeing it on them, although they should have been eventually > copied to your Warp C: drive. It's so many years now since I did an > actual Warp4 installation, I've forgotten just how many reboots there > are starting from the [2nd?] floppy, until installation is finished. > > How recent is that set of updated installation diskettes? So you will > have a Warp4 GA installation without any Fixpacks, but some drivers > updated as on the floppies. > The updated ones from IBM's website so that Warp can be installed on > 8.4gb hard drives. They were warp4iu1.exe & warp4iu2.exe & were both run & copied onto 2 disks but the original (first) Installation disk could still be used. I just looked at IBM's site & it seems to be talking about newer ID's using a utility program called UPDINST which i cant find there. Then it talks about copying files onto 2mb disks & a file WARPINST.exe which i cant find either. Maybe you can find out. http://www-1.ibm dot com/support/docview.wss?rs=203&context=SWG00&q1=os%2f2&q2=updtinst&uid=swg21001827&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=en Thanks again Peter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 27 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:45:23 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: Warp 4 Installation Peter wrote: > Hi Mike > > Mike O'Connor wrote: > >> Hi Peter, >> >> Having just looked through the original 3*W4 diskettes, I don't >> recollect seeing it on them, although they should have been >> eventually copied to your Warp C: drive. It's so many years now >> since I did an actual Warp4 installation, I've forgotten just how >> many reboots there are starting from the [2nd?] floppy, until >> installation is finished. >> >> How recent is that set of updated installation diskettes? So you will >> have a Warp4 GA installation without any Fixpacks, but some drivers >> updated as on the floppies. > > The updated ones from IBM's website so that Warp can be installed on > > 8.4gb hard drives. They were warp4iu1.exe & warp4iu2.exe & were both > run & copied onto 2 disks but the original (first) Installation disk > could still be used. Those were the ones originally intended for ThinkPad updates, but they work just fine on desktops AFAIR. > I just looked at IBM's site & it seems to be talking about newer ID's > using a utility program called UPDINST which i cant find there. Then > it talks about copying files onto 2mb disks & a file WARPINST.exe > which i cant find either. This sounds to me suspiciously like files for creating an updated bootable-Warp4-CD, and probably the diskette size was 2.88MB, as used for the CD-boot-images? > Maybe you can find out. > > http://www-1.ibm dot com/support/docview.wss?rs=203&context=SWG00&q1=os%2f2&q2=updtinst&uid=swg21001827&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=en > Will go have a look for you. ;-) > Thanks again > Peter Hi Peter, Everything was in-line! -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, * dot com, *.bat, *.reg attachments] [Please use zipped versions of above] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 28 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:39:13 +0800 From: nickl at pacific dot net dot au Subject: Re: Warp 4 Installation Hi Peter et al In <420EBBE6.2000507 at sub dot net dot au>, on 02/13/2005 at 01:31 PM, Peter said: >Hi Mike >Mike O'Connor wrote: >> >> >> Hi Peter, >> >> Having just looked through the original 3*W4 diskettes, I don't >> recollect seeing it on them, although they should have been eventually >> copied to your Warp C: drive. It's so many years now since I did an >> actual Warp4 installation, I've forgotten just how many reboots there >> are starting from the [2nd?] floppy, until installation is finished. >> >> How recent is that set of updated installation diskettes? So you will >> have a Warp4 GA installation without any Fixpacks, but some drivers >> updated as on the floppies. >> >The updated ones from IBM's website so that Warp can be installed on > >8.4gb hard drives. They were warp4iu1.exe & warp4iu2.exe & were both >run & copied onto 2 disks but the original (first) Installation disk >could still be used. >I just looked at IBM's site & it seems to be talking about newer ID's >using a utility program called UPDINST which i cant find there. Then it >talks about copying files onto 2mb disks & a file WARPINST.exe which i >cant find either. > >Maybe you can find out. >http://www-1.ibm dot com/support/docview.wss?rs=203&context=SWG00&q1=os%2f2&q2=updtinst&uid=swg21001827&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=en >Thanks again >Peter Sorry I'm a bit late on the scene. Yes...a definite. The Updated Warp4 (and 3) Diskettes are a must these days if you are going to re-install on a Drive >4GiB. Does OS2Site or Hobbes have copies of the relevant images? For me, I'm still lucky enough to have WARPUP, that not only has those images, but the relevant Fixes to bring you up to Warp4.5. Not sure where you would get that from, but it'd be worth it to have. To summarise: You would be struggling with the original 3 diskettes that come with, or can be made directly from, the original OS/2 Warp4 CD. Hope this helps you. Regards NICK > ----------------------------------------------------------- nickl at pacific dot net dot au ----------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 29 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:55:37 +1100 From: Peter Subject: Re: Warp 4 Installation Hi Mike & Nick, I'm having (a late) lunch. Will reply when finished. Thanks Peter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 30 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:50:39 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: Warp 4 Installation Peter wrote: > Hi Mike & Nick, > > I'm having (a late) lunch. Will reply when finished. > > Thanks > Peter Hi Peter, Having started at 04:03 on the 11th [Friday a.m. AEST], I'm about to go get some shut-eye. [13:49 Sunday] The IBM-link doesn't have the mentioned WARPINST.EXE as you noted, but everything you need to update the installation diskettes is at : http://www.warpupdates.mynetcologne.de/english/site_contents.html Many post-installation updates also available there, same as on www.os2site dot com for PEER-TCP/IP etc. also. Plus Fixpacks are available on both [the freely available ones - up to FP15! -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, * dot com, *.bat, *.reg attachments] [Please use zipped versions of above] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 31 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 15:13:35 +1100 From: "Alan Duval" Subject: Re: Ethernet adapters -----Original Message----- From: Ed Durrant To: os2genau at os2 dot org dot au Date: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:57 Subject: Re: Ethernet adapters >Alan Duval wrote: >> >OK - so a "straight" cat-5 UTP-UTP cable from your ethernet card in your >PC to any one of the 4 LAN ports on the router, should be in place (was >this cable supplied with the "box" ? Yes > >OK what we can do, to test, is go into TCPCFG2 again from the >commandline again and click on the "manually using" button and enter in >the IP Address Field an address in the correct range - we'll use >192.168.1.100 now in the field subnet mask, type 255.255.255.0 Now >click the Routing tab of the notebook and you will be taken to another >page. On this page click ADD and then click on the Default raidio button >in the Route Type section and enter in the Router Address field >192.168.1.254 Click OK three times to return to the command line. > >Now restart your PC. The DHCPSTART: DHCP client did not get parameters. >DHCPSTART: Continuing to try in background.. Press > > Enter to continue" message should not be displayed this time. > >What we have done now is set a "static IP" address on this machine, from >which we should be able to get to the ADSL router to check its >configuration. NOTE HOWEVER, as we have not entered any DNS (Domain Name >Server) addresses, once ADSL is connected, you wont be able to go to >websites by simply typing their name using this configuration, s the >system doesn't know where the "index" is to find out IP Addresses. We're >only setting up this configuration so that we can check that everything >is set ready for when the ADSL is connected. > >Once the system has fully rebooted, go to your web browser and type in >192.168.1.254 as the address and hopefully you'll either get a prompt to >log in or be taken directly to the configuration page. > >Let us all know if/when you get this far. > Successful! The browser takes me to the login window and after this to the configuration. Backed out and tried it again and able to do the same. Regards Alan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 32 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:44:50 +0000 From: David Shearer Subject: Re: Fonts and Printing Paul Smedley wrote: > Hi David, > > David Shearer wrote: > >> I have an Epson C61 USB Printer which works fine under eCs - using >> EPNOMI drivers. However I have been trying to print with different >> fonts selected in a word processing document (eg wordpro). However I >> do not get the results I expect when I print the page. >> >> What is the trick with printing? - I have installed True Type fonts >> in addition to PS Fonts etc. They come up in Wordpro but when >> printed they all resemble Times new roman or courier. >> >> Anyone got anyideas? > > > I know that this isn't particularly helpful, but my USB connected C61 > prints any fonts thrown at it. Got a particular document/font that's > giving you grief? > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > > Hi - I dont remember what I did but it seems to print most fonts now. I think in the printer setup I selected use printer format or something and that seems to have done the trick? Thanks anyway David S ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 33 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:29:48 +1100 From: "Peter Pigott" Subject: Re: Ethernet adapters ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Duval" To: Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 3:13 PM Subject: Re: Ethernet adapters > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Durrant > To: os2genau at os2 dot org dot au > Date: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:57 > Subject: Re: Ethernet adapters > snip > >>Alan Duval wrote: >>Once the system has fully rebooted, go to your web browser and type in >>192.168.1.254 as the address and hopefully you'll either get a prompt to >>log in or be taken directly to the configuration page. >> >>Let us all know if/when you get this far. >> > > Successful! The browser takes me to the login window and after this to > the > configuration. Backed out and tried it again and able to do the same. > > Regards > > Alan > > Alan, I've come in late to this thread, but sympathise with you , "been there done that"! Where you are now is how I ended up. Couldn't get DHCP to work on eCS 1.1, although it did on the kid's Win XP. You can set the router as your gateway in TCPIP set-up and use a manual DNS from your ISP and disable DHCP server on the router. Works for me here. I can't point you to the exact link, but I have read on one of the mail lists of a fix for DHCP (maybe someone else's memory is better). Waiting to install eCS 1.2 here. Regards, Peter -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 34 ==========================** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:46:48 +1100 (AEDT) From: "Alan Duval" Subject: Router setup Hi Ed, Now that I have a static address and can access the Router's configuration page what is the next step? Boy, this has been exhausting. Spent 17 hrs at this computer yesterday. Thank God I could go to church today to get spiritually refreshed. I really do thank you all for your patience and help and the time you've taken to send articles to me. Bless you all, Alan Duval ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------