From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:01:07 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1058 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Tuesday 22 February 2005 Number 1058 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 [Fwd: [eCS] Contact info: Searching for author of Theme/2 ...] : Paul Smedley 2 Ecs Network Login : Gavin Miller 3 OT: Windows Mouse actions : Gavin Miller 4 Re: OT: Windows Mouse actions : John Angelico" 5 LVM and PM : Alan Duval 6 Anyone ? : Ian Manners" 7 Re: LVM and PM : Kev 8 Re: OT: Windows Mouse actions : Voytek Eymont" 9 Re: [Fwd: [eCS] Contact info: Searching for author of Theme/2 ...] : Ed Durrant 10 Re: Ecs Network Login : Ed Durrant 11 Re: Anyone ? : Ed Durrant 12 Re: OT: Windows Mouse actions : Ed Durrant 13 Re: OT: Windows Mouse actions : Voytek Eymont" 14 Re: OT: Windows Mouse actions : Ed Durrant 15 Re: Ecs Network Login : Mike O'Connor 16 Re: Ecs Network Login : Gavin Miller 17 Re: OT: Windows Mouse actions : David Forrester" 18 Re: OT: Windows Mouse actions : Mike O'Connor 19 Re: OT: Windows Mouse actions : Ed Durrant 20 Re: OT: Windows Mouse actions : Voytek Eymont" 21 Re: LVM and PM : Alan Duval 22 Re: LVM and PM : Mike O'Connor 23 Re: OT: Windows Mouse actions : Mike O'Connor 24 Re: OT: Windows Mouse actions : Voytek Eymont" 25 Re: [Fwd: [eCS] Contact info: Searching for author of Theme/2 ...] : David Forrester" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 07:05:36 +1030 From: Paul Smedley Subject: [Fwd: [eCS] Contact info: Searching for author of Theme/2 ...] All, Anyone on the OS/2 Australialist know of mjterrington? Name doesn't ring a bell with me :( Cheers, Paul. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [eCS] Contact info: Searching for author of Theme/2 ... Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:09:18 -0500 From: Gregory L. Marx Reply-To: eComStation at yahoogroups dot com To: eComStation at yahoogroups dot com, ecsapps at yahoogroups dot com, eCS-Technical at yahoogroups dot com REQ: There's a small OS/2 utility named "Theme/2" that TomLee Mullins referenced in a post to the eComStation dot com forums. Its function is to allow the usage of Windows 95 themes under OS/2, but it's a very early release (0.3) written in 1997 obviously prior to Windows 98 and its later brethen. The simple copyright lists "MJTerrington" and the email address is "toorak at giga dot net dot au" but unfortunately a message sent from my verizon dot net account comes back with the following error: Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients: Recipient address: toorak at giga dot net dot au Reason: Illegal host/domain name found I did some searching via Google dot com for a later version (actually for *any* version) but the only pointer is to Peter Norloff's OS2BBS dot com site. And the only version found in his files section is the above referenced 0.3 release. I was hoping to contact the author and see if he is still using OS/2 and if so, whether there's a later release of Theme/2 that is more fully developed and able to use later vintage win32 themes. Plus, I was thinking that maybe this tool along with Rich Castle's ColorManager/2 and the other built-in tools in eCS could be investigated as a possible means to being able to use windows themes. My thinking being that anything that would help in converting the windows-using masses into looking at eCS would be a "good thing". And of course it would also add an additional piece of eye-candy for our favorite operating-system. I know this is a slightly controversial idea, but IMO it would be another option for furthering the eCS experience. With all that said, does anyone have any later info or contact data concerning this program ? (I also searched Hobbes but OS2bbs dot com appears to be the only location for Theme/2. If anyone would like to look at a copy let me know off-list and I can send you the version from Peter's site) Thanks, Gregory L. Marx gregory.marx at verizon dot net Please don't post tech support requests to this list. Use news.ecomstation.nl. To unsubscribe, send email to: eComStation-unsubscribe at egroups dot com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo dot com/group/eComStation/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: eComStation-unsubscribe at yahoogroups dot com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo dot com/info/terms/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:40:39 +1100 From: Gavin Miller Subject: Ecs Network Login Hi all, I've noticed that with Ecs 1.1, I can type any password and still be granted access to the network. This can't be normal, can it? Cheers G ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:09:02 +1100 From: Gavin Miller Subject: OT: Windows Mouse actions Hi All, Does anyone play with Windows XP much? I'd like to know if it has mouse actions in a DOS prompt like OS/2 does. Cheers G ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:19:00 +1100 (AEDT) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: OT: Windows Mouse actions On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:09:02 +1100, Gavin Miller wrote: >Hi All, > >Does anyone play with Windows XP much? I'd like to know if it has mouse >actions in a DOS prompt like OS/2 does. Haven't found them Gavin. #2 son Chris says you need to invoke them with Menu actions: Menu Edit Back to command screen, select text. Menu Copy that sort of thing... Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... Windows XP: Simulated eCS! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:50:40 +0000 From: Alan Duval Subject: LVM and PM Hi, My second harddrive gave up the ghost 2 days ago and I bought a new one and installed it yesterday. Decided to put all WIN stuff on the first harddrive and eCS on second drive as i'm thinking of installing WIN XP on the first drive. I've got everything installed but there always seems to be a conflict between LVM and Partition magic. I used Partition Magic to partition the new disk. Why?: because if I use LVM and then use Drive image to restore my partitioins it gives error messages that the starting LBA value is different to the CHS value of each new partitioin and requests that it change them. If I do this LBA will say that the partition information is possibly corrupt. That doesn't occur if I use PM and then Drive Image, but after then using LVM to volumnize the new partitions the error messages again occur if I load PM or Drive Image. I use Drive Image to back up my system. Does it matter if I ignore the request to correct the LBA and CHS values when I create an image with Drive Image? Regards Alan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:03:51 +1100 (EDT) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Anyone ? From: abhishek email: abhishek at esselshyam dot net Country: India Comments: - Hi! I want to make some specialised programs on os/2 or windows based programs to run on Os/2 kindly let me that if this can be done and by whom *************************************** Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ If at first you don't succeed, you are running about average. -- Bill Cosby ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:32:55 +0800 From: Kev Subject: Re: LVM and PM Hi Alan What version of PQMagic are you using? I suspect that no versions are compatible with LVM. PQM v3.05 (I think) was the last native OS/2 release, and it is definitely incompatible with LVM - I have it. I suspect that they drifted ever further away from maintaining any kind of OS/2 compatibility as they became more and more ensconced in Windo$e. IBM's LVM is far more advanced that any of its FDISK (or FDISK-like) predecessors, and 3rd party products like PQMagic would have to be specifically written to be compatible with LVM. Some are, like DFSee, but I have a feeling, deep down in my water bag, that PQMagic is not one of them. To do what you're suggesting is good. That is, keeping Wintendo on a separate drive, and keeping it on the 1st drive. While XP is claimed to boot from any partition, it must have its initial boot instructions on C:. Hence, best to keep the lot there. Because NTFS.IFS is still RO in eCS, if you want to be able to swap files across the 2 systems, it's best to have a FAT32 partition to have in common. From experience this is what *I* would count as the best process to achieve that. 1. Backup all your important stuff!! A CD is good for this. 2. Install all the physical drives and get the CMOS setup - usually automatic now-a-days. 3. Boot from the eCS CD, and at the first chance, take a command line and invoke LVM. Because you already have a reliable backup of ALL that is important to you, delete ALL partitions on both physical drives. 4. Next, install BootManager. I don't remember any options here - I think, because there are no partitions it will automatically go on the beginning of the 1st drive. If you get a choice, put it at the beginning of the 1st drive - if not it doesn't really matter. That's all for eCS for the time being. Save the changes, re-boot ... 5. Boot from the XP CD, and read CAREFULLY all the screens that present. Installing XP is NOT an intuitive process. When you arive at XP's partition management program, be VERY careful and proceed. ... 6. The BM partition will show as a 7meg partiton - leave it alone!! ENSURE that you only work on the 1st physical drive whilst installing Window$, and then create a partition *at least* 2gig at the beginning of the free space. This will be C:, formatted NTFS, and will be your main Windoze drive/boot drive. 7. Create a 2nd Wintendo partition (D:) using up the rest of the drive, and format it FAT32. Remember that the FAT32 partition is really only there so that data can be swapped between Winblows and eCS, so you make a guess at what ratio you have for Windoze system drive (NTFS) and the shared drive (FAT32). I would think that 1gig would be enough for swapping data back and forth. Anyhow, use the whole drive for these 2 partitions. 8. Go ahead now and install Windo$e into the NTFS partition. Btw, NTFS is FAR superior to FAT32, so use it where you can, and FAT32 where you have to. 9. The rest is easy. Boot from the eCS CD, partition the 2nd physical drive as you wish and install eCS there. It might ask you to re-install BM, I'm not sure. If you want to be sure, be careful, delete the BM previously installed, (on the 1st physical drive) and re-install it anyway. It was only put there before the Windoze install to reserve the space for it now. 10. I hope you're OK with LVM - it's a magic tool. When all that is done, re-boot and BM should appear with only 1 option on it - eCS. When happilly booted into eCS, take a command line, invoke LVM again to create your 2 Window$ *VOLUMES* **## NOT PARTITIONS ##** Create the volumes on the same boundaries as the partitons you created in Windo$e, and remember to add the NTFS volume to BM. Set the BM defaults you want, save the changes and Bob's me mate and your uncle is your business. In LVM, volumes are created in LOGICAL VIEW, while partitions are created in PHYSICAL VIEW. (This is a very simplified statement, so no flack from the rest of you please.) For 10. above that is the rule which will keep you furthest from trouble, but not immune to it. Also, this is NOT the only way to get the 2 installed and co-existing, but it is, in my opinion, the easiest way to succeed. I wish you near-by. It's really quite an easy process when you see it done, but oh so daunting as a set of instructions like above. Are we having fun yet? Kev Alan Duval wrote: > Hi, > > My second harddrive gave up the ghost 2 days ago and I bought a new one > and installed it yesterday. > Decided to put all WIN stuff on the first harddrive and eCS on second > drive as i'm thinking of installing WIN XP on the first drive. I've got > everything installed but there always seems to be a conflict between > LVM and Partition magic. I used Partition Magic to partition the new > disk. Why?: because if I use LVM and then use Drive image to restore my > partitioins it gives error messages that the starting LBA value is > different to the CHS value of each new partitioin and requests that it > change them. If I do this LBA will say that the partition information is > possibly corrupt. That doesn't occur if I use PM and then Drive Image, > but after then using LVM to volumnize the new partitions the error > messages again occur if I load PM or Drive Image. I use Drive Image to > back up my system. > Does it matter if I ignore the request to correct the LBA and CHS values > when I create an image with Drive Image? If you do what I've outlined above, this glitch will disappear ========================= Kev Downes kdownes at tpg dot com dot au ph 0404 7 0808 2 Windows isn't the answer. Windows is the question. The answer is NO! I use, recommend and support OS/2 Warp and eComStation. ========================= "Jesus Christ is the centre of everything and the object of everything; He who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world and nothing of himself." Blaise Pascal ========================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:30:05 +1100 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: OT: Windows Mouse actions Gavin Miller said: > Hi All, > > Does anyone play with Windows XP much? I'd like to know if it has mouse > actions in a DOS prompt like OS/2 does. let me know if you find out, I'm interested too -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:59:06 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: [Fwd: [eCS] Contact info: Searching for author of Theme/2 ...] giga dot net dot au is an invalid domainname aswell. Cheers/2 Ed. Paul Smedley wrote: > All, > Anyone on the OS/2 Australialist know of mjterrington? Name doesn't > ring a bell with me :( > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [eCS] Contact info: Searching for author of Theme/2 ... > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:09:18 -0500 > From: Gregory L. Marx > Reply-To: eComStation at yahoogroups dot com > To: eComStation at yahoogroups dot com, ecsapps at yahoogroups dot com, > eCS-Technical at yahoogroups dot com > > > REQ: > > There's a small OS/2 utility named "Theme/2" that TomLee Mullins > referenced in a post to the eComStation dot com forums. Its function is to > allow the usage of Windows 95 themes under OS/2, but it's a very early > release (0.3) written in 1997 obviously prior to Windows 98 and its > later brethen. > > The simple copyright lists "MJTerrington" and the email address is > "toorak at giga dot net dot au" but unfortunately a message sent from my > verizon dot net account comes back with the following error: > > Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients: > > Recipient address: toorak at giga dot net dot au > Reason: Illegal host/domain name found > > > I did some searching via Google dot com for a later version (actually for > *any* version) but the only pointer is to Peter Norloff's OS2BBS dot com > site. And the only version found in his files section is the above > referenced 0.3 release. I was hoping to contact the author and see if > he is still using OS/2 and if so, whether there's a later release of > Theme/2 that is more fully developed and able to use later vintage win32 > themes. > > Plus, I was thinking that maybe this tool along with Rich Castle's > ColorManager/2 and the other built-in tools in eCS could be investigated > as a possible means to being able to use windows themes. My thinking > being that anything that would help in converting the windows-using > masses into looking at eCS would be a "good thing". And of course it > would also add an additional piece of eye-candy for our favorite > operating-system. I know this is a slightly controversial idea, but IMO > it would be another option for furthering the eCS experience. > > With all that said, does anyone have any later info or contact data > concerning this program ? > (I also searched Hobbes but OS2bbs dot com appears to be the only location > for Theme/2. If anyone would like to look at a copy let me know > off-list and I can send you the version from Peter's site) > > Thanks, > Gregory L. Marx > gregory.marx at verizon dot net > > > > Please don't post tech support requests to this list. Use > news.ecomstation.nl. > > To unsubscribe, send email to: > eComStation-unsubscribe at egroups dot com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo dot com/group/eComStation/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > eComStation-unsubscribe at yahoogroups dot com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo dot com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:02:26 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Ecs Network Login Gavin Miller wrote: > Hi all, > > I've noticed that with Ecs 1.1, I can type any password and still be > granted access to the network. This can't be normal, can it? > > Cheers > G > > > Can you supply a bit more information please ? Where are you entering a password - is this a network login, a local login or an application log in ? It is possible to create an account through UPMACCTS and set the account to password optional - is this what you have ?? Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:15:15 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Anyone ? Ian Manners wrote: > From: abhishek > email: abhishek at esselshyam dot net > Country: India > Comments: - > Hi! > > I want to make some specialised programs on os/2 or windows based programs to run on Os/2 kindly let me that if this can be done and by whom > *************************************** > > Cheers > Ian Manners > http://www.os2site dot com/ > With the reference to running Windows on OS/2 - perhaps you should direct abhishek to the ODIN website at http://www dot netlabs dot org/odin/ ? Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:19:08 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: OT: Windows Mouse actions Voytek Eymont wrote: > Gavin Miller said: > >>Hi All, >> >>Does anyone play with Windows XP much? I'd like to know if it has mouse >>actions in a DOS prompt like OS/2 does. > > > > let me know if you find out, I'm interested too What "mouse actions" are being referred to here - do you mean for example, mark and copy ? Yes that is there in XP aswell - as one would expect as the XP command prompt is actually cmd.exe from OS/2 with some changes. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:25:33 +1100 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: OT: Windows Mouse actions Ed Durrant said: > Voytek Eymont wrote: >> Gavin Miller said: > What "mouse actions" are being referred to here - do you mean for > example, mark and copy ? Yes that is there in XP aswell - as one would > expect as the XP command prompt is actually cmd.exe from OS/2 with some > changes. scrape - copy click - paste ? how to make XP do that simple trick ? -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 14 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:31:51 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: OT: Windows Mouse actions Voytek Eymont wrote: > Ed Durrant said: > >>Voytek Eymont wrote: >> >>>Gavin Miller said: > > >>What "mouse actions" are being referred to here - do you mean for >>example, mark and copy ? Yes that is there in XP aswell - as one would >>expect as the XP command prompt is actually cmd.exe from OS/2 with some >>changes. > > > > scrape - copy > click - paste > > ? how to make XP do that simple trick ? > LMB and Drag to mark - enter to copy to clipboard RMB to paste Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 15 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:58:23 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: Ecs Network Login Gavin Miller wrote: > Hi all, > > I've noticed that with Ecs 1.1, I can type any password and still be > granted access to the network. This can't be normal, can it? Hi Gavin, Usually that only occurs if you don't already have a password assigned to the UserID used, and if you then open the "Sharing and Connecting" object, you only find about three tabs included, instead of eight [nine including Speech if you have VoiceType]. This situation would give you "guest" privileges only, no administation access. -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, * dot com, *.bat, *.reg attachments] [Please use zipped versions of above] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 16 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:47:33 +1100 From: Gavin Miller Subject: Re: Ecs Network Login Hi Ed, Mike, It was the local network login, but I think I may know what was going wrong. When I installed ecs, I don't think I cliked on "Change" when I entered the Uer ID and Password. That's fixed now. Thanx Cheers G Mike O'Connor wrote: > Gavin Miller wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I've noticed that with Ecs 1.1, I can type any password and still be >> granted access to the network. This can't be normal, can it? > > > Hi Gavin, > > Usually that only occurs if you don't already have a password assigned > to the UserID used, and if you then open the "Sharing and Connecting" > object, you only find about three tabs included, instead of eight > [nine including Speech if you have VoiceType]. This situation would > give you "guest" privileges only, no administation access. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 17 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:54:20 +1100 (EDT) From: "David Forrester" Subject: Re: OT: Windows Mouse actions On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:31:51 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: >Voytek Eymont wrote: >> Ed Durrant said: >> >>>Voytek Eymont wrote: >>> >>>>Gavin Miller said: >> >> >>>What "mouse actions" are being referred to here - do you mean for >>>example, mark and copy ? Yes that is there in XP aswell - as one would >>>expect as the XP command prompt is actually cmd.exe from OS/2 with some >>>changes. >> >> >> >> scrape - copy >> click - paste >> >> ? how to make XP do that simple trick ? >> > >LMB and Drag to mark - enter to copy to clipboard > >RMB to paste > These aren't on by default. To turn them on, open a command-line, and select properties from the windows menu. On the properties dialog, select "Quick edit mode" (or something like that). Save the changes and when asked select the apply to all windows option so that it is remembered. -- David Forrester davidfor at internode.on dot net http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 18 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:54:55 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: OT: Windows Mouse actions Ed Durrant wrote: > Voytek Eymont wrote: > >> scrape - copy >> click - paste >> >> ? how to make XP do that simple trick ? > > LMB and Drag to mark - enter to copy to clipboard > > RMB to paste Hi Ed, Thanks! Hadn't realised that the Enter-key put the selected data on the clipboard in OS/2-eCS also! :-) I had previously been using the context menu to do that too! -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, * dot com, *.bat, *.reg attachments] [Please use zipped versions of above] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 19 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:35:31 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: OT: Windows Mouse actions David Forrester wrote: > On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:31:51 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: > > >>Voytek Eymont wrote: >> >>>Ed Durrant said: >>> >>> >>>>Voytek Eymont wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Gavin Miller said: >>> >>> >>>>What "mouse actions" are being referred to here - do you mean for >>>>example, mark and copy ? Yes that is there in XP aswell - as one would >>>>expect as the XP command prompt is actually cmd.exe from OS/2 with some >>>>changes. >>> >>> >>> >>>scrape - copy >>>click - paste >>> >>>? how to make XP do that simple trick ? >>> >> >>LMB and Drag to mark - enter to copy to clipboard >> >>RMB to paste >> > > > These aren't on by default. To turn them on, open a command-line, and > select properties from the windows menu. On the properties dialog, > select "Quick edit mode" (or something like that). Save the changes > and when asked select the apply to all windows option so that it is > remembered. > > -- > David Forrester > davidfor at internode.on dot net I think in Windows XP PROFESSIONAL (Note, not the hacked down HOME version), they ARE on by default as I never turned them on specifically and they're there. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 20 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:04:08 +1100 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: OT: Windows Mouse actions Mike O'Connor said: > Ed Durrant wrote: > >> Voytek Eymont wrote: >> >>> scrape - copy >>> click - paste > Thanks! Hadn't realised that the Enter-key put the selected data on the > clipboard in OS/2-eCS also! :-) > I had previously been using the context menu to do that too! enter-key ? I want a mouse like that, too. where can I get a mouse with an Enter-Key ? jeez, I'm so far behind, yet again, still have a mouse with no enter-key -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 21 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:13:56 +0000 From: Alan Duval Subject: Re: LVM and PM Kev wrote: > Hi Alan > > What version of PQMagic are you using? I'm using Partition Magic 5.0 and Drive Image 3.0. In the DFSee forums Jan says that PM does a better job of resizing and moving Partitions than DFSee. > I suspect that no versions are compatible with LVM. However you would think that they would keep the same CHS and LBA values. > 3rd party products like PQMagic would have to be specifically written > to be compatible with LVM. Some are, like DFSee, but I have a > feeling, deep down in my water bag, that PQMagic is not one of them. Appreciate the detailed instructions you've given me concerning installing WIN XP. I'm going to tread very carefully here. Even thinking about disconnecting the drive that eCS is on. As yet I haven't got my DVD burner so have backed up everything to a third drive which I will definitely disconnect before hand. Also have my eCS partition imaged on ZIP Disks but my eCS applications partition is too large to image to Zip disks. Thanks Alan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 22 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:15:32 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: LVM and PM Alan Duval wrote: > Hi, > > My second harddrive gave up the ghost 2 days ago and I bought a new > one and installed it yesterday. > Decided to put all WIN stuff on the first harddrive and eCS on second > drive as i'm thinking of installing WIN XP on the first drive. I've > got everything installed but there always seems to be a conflict > between LVM and Partition magic. I used Partition Magic to partition > the new disk. Why?: because if I use LVM and then use Drive image to > restore my partitioins it gives error messages that the starting LBA > value is different to the CHS value of each new partitioin and > requests that it change them. If I do this LBA will say that the > partition information is possibly corrupt. That doesn't occur if I > use PM and then Drive Image, but after then using LVM to volumnize the > new partitions the error messages again occur if I load PM or Drive > Image. I use Drive Image to back up my system. > Does it matter if I ignore the request to correct the LBA and CHS > values when I create an image with Drive Image? Hi Alan, Adding to the extensive list that Kev provided, I'd suggest that you get a copy of DFSee [www.dfsee dot com]! M$ uses a different CHS system to PowerQuest, which is different again from that used by OS/2-eCS [and DFSee default]. However one can change the current flavour of CHS with DFSee in order to work successfully with Partition Magic/Drive Image, or LVM. It also makes it simple to alter extended partition types from 05h to 0Fh as required for Win9x. Note that the largest FAT32 partition you will be able to *create/format* with any M$-NT flavour is 32GB, so Kev's comment about using the balance of the first drive as a single D: partition will only work for drives ~30GB. Using Partition Magic of course you can create and simultaneously format FAT32 partitions >32GB. When installing the initial IBM BM, I'd also create a primary partition for WXP and then make it the active partition at this time. HTH -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, * dot com, *.bat, *.reg attachments] [Please use zipped versions of above] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 23 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:19:18 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: OT: Windows Mouse actions Voytek Eymont wrote: >Mike O'Connor said: > > >>Ed Durrant wrote: >> >>>Voytek Eymont wrote: >>> >>>>crape - copy >>>>click - paste >>>> >>>> >>Thanks! Hadn't realised that the Enter-key put the selected data on the >>clipboard in OS/2-eCS also! :-) >>I had previously been using the context menu to do that too! >> >> > >enter-key ? >I want a mouse like that, too. > >where can I get a mouse with an Enter-Key ? > >jeez, I'm so far behind, yet again, still have a mouse with no enter-key > Hi Voytek, I don't have it, but maybe that comes with DragText [in OS/2-eCS of course]? -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, * dot com, *.bat, *.reg attachments] [Please use zipped versions of above] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 24 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:24:46 +1100 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: OT: Windows Mouse actions Mike O'Connor said: > Ed Durrant wrote: >> Voytek Eymont wrote: >> >>> scrape - copy >>> click - paste > Thanks! Hadn't realised that the Enter-key put the selected data on the > clipboard in OS/2-eCS also! :-) > I had previously been using the context menu to do that too! Mike, you oughta RTFM sometimes..... after you've enabled Mouse action: scrape - drag whilst simultaneously holding down the default mouse button.. when the desired area has been covered, click the non-default mouse button, releasing both simultaenously, or as close to simultaneously as your dexterity allows you click, opps, meant 'chord' - simultaneously rapidly press and release both the non default mouse button, as well as the default mouse button now try doing it once mastered on command line, you can proceed to use scrape/chord in E , or PRM, or FireFox (but not DeScribe) but I still want a mouse with an Enter key, maybe we can get a better deal if we buy two ? ;>) -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 25 ==========================** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:29:23 +1100 (EDT) From: "David Forrester" Subject: Re: [Fwd: [eCS] Contact info: Searching for author of Theme/2 ...] On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 07:05:36 +1030, Paul Smedley wrote: >All, >Anyone on the OS/2 Australialist know of mjterrington? Name doesn't >ring a bell with me :( > Unfortunately, I don't recognise it either. And, I'm surprised that I've never heard of this tool either. I thought I had looked at every theming related tool for OS/2 and I've never see this one. But, as a slight help, I wanted the function a while ago, and started a Rexx program to do it. I haven't touched it for a while, but, looking at the code, it will do sound, the desktop image and cursors. It looks like I'm up to the colours. And the main problem there, and with all the settings, is mapping between the Windows and OS/2 names for things. Of course, the biggest problem is going to be converting the icons to OS/2 format. WinIco will do it, but, I really should finish this. -- David Forrester davidfor at internode.on dot net http://www.os2world dot com/djfos2/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------