From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:01:08 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1079 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Monday 21 March 2005 Number 1079 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: attrib command : Mike O'Connor 2 Re: attrib command - Yeah you're right! : Mike O'Connor 3 Re: attrib command : Ian Manners" 4 VCD : nickl at pacific dot net dot au 5 Re: attrib command : Mike O'Connor 6 Re: VCD : Ed Durrant 7 Re: VCD : Paul Smedley 8 Re: VCD : Paul Smedley 9 Re: VCD : Robert Traynor (BobT)" 10 Re: VCD : nickl at pacific dot net dot au 11 Re: TP 390E and PCMCIA slot network card : brianb at kdfisher dot com dot au 12 Re: attrib command : Kev 13 Re: attrib command : Dennis Nolan 14 Re: TP 390E and PCMCIA slot network card : Ed Durrant 15 Re: VCD : Ed Durrant 16 Re: attrib command : Kris Steenhaut 17 Re: attrib command : Kris Steenhaut 18 Re: attrib command : Ed Durrant **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:33:15 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: attrib command Kris Steenhaut wrote: > Mike O'Connor schreef: > >> Kris, >> >> You don't know what you're talking about! >> Every edition of OS/2 has *always* installed attrib by default! > > No, W4 didn't. You had to check the option on during the install. Never on any US/English edition! > As always, I do know very well what I am speaking about. you obviously don't! > Why don't you launch a fresh new brand W4 install onto a blank > partition? Then you could check it out for yourself for once instead > of speaking idle. Kris, That's a lot of bullshit! Every installation I ever did was a fresh installation to a blank partition, whether OS/2 V2.10, V3.0 or V4.0 --> MCPx/eCS! It also came automatically installed with V1.2/1.3! "Attrib" is a family application - both OS/2 and DOS, and is installed irrespective of whether you have DOS support or not! -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, * dot com, *.bat, *.reg attachments] [Please use zipped versions of above] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:48:37 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: attrib command - Yeah you're right! Mike O'Connor wrote: > Kris Steenhaut wrote: > >> No, W4 didn't. You had to check the option on during the install. > Hi Kris, I apologise - yes it is a selectable option - I just have automatically selected it forever, along with every other one of the file utilities - I just couldn't conceive that anyone wouldn't have selected them - but I guess if people don't check-out what comes up when you press the "more" button, they wouldn't know! -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, * dot com, *.bat, *.reg attachments] [Please use zipped versions of above] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:59:02 +1100 (EDT) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: attrib command Hi Mike Hate to say it but Kris is right here, the first warp 4 CD's you had to tick the additional utilities or something box otherwise attrib wasnt installed. Cant speak for the later ones, Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ I am a wierd person in a normal Chaotic world. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:45:35 +0800 From: nickl at pacific dot net dot au Subject: VCD Hi All. Thought I'd try some experimenting.... I have burnt 3 x mpg episodes to CD. Our DVD player doesn't see them, but I think Kenny's does. I've seen DVD Recorder (the whitegoods type) drop from $900.00 to $288, but we still can't afford that. We are still a CD only (and LP for that matter) family, except for a Viewmaster DVD player. It doesn't like anything I've burnt to CD's. However what I did do today was this: 1) copy 3 x f*rtur*ma episodes into d:\temp 2) renamed the 3 episodes to 8x3 terminology. Disk space used = 680MB 3) went to d:\utils\misofs and invoked I made the ISO File of 680MB 4) Inserted a blank CD, fired up the Recorder Window of RSJ, and dragged the Future_1.ISO image in....it was written in a LONG time, but the CD was cool on exit. On Warpvision, the 3 MPG's still come up, and all are played. On Windows media Player...same thing. Our hopeless DVD player (a ViewMaster) sees nothing. Kenny's DVD Player (a Phillips) sees the raw MPG's (on another disk), but prefers this one. All 3 episodes play! The local whitegoods store wouldn't let me try their new machines. Pity. I *may* have bought one. :-) So, I wonder if I have really written a VCD? What started me on this "trip" was the local Tandy salesman said "If you use Nero........" I reasoned (probably inaccurately) that a VCD was MPG's or AVI's held together in an ISO format. True or false? . OK, given that my Viewmaster is probably a bit dated, and the kids stay too long in front of the computer anyway, does anyone have a video player (about $50-$100's worth) that can "play VCD's", and will actually play raw MPG's (like the Phillips), or has done something similar (and obviously *much* better) to what I have done, and got a result, without all the dithering of the M$ burners? Regards NICK ----------------------------------------------------------- nickl at pacific dot net dot au ----------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:01:46 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: attrib command Ian Manners wrote: >Hi Mike > >Hate to say it but Kris is right here, the first warp 4 CD's you had to tick >the additional utilities or something box otherwise attrib wasnt installed. >Cant speak for the later ones, > > Hi Ian, Presume that you saw my apology/correction, when I thought about it again - still applied to MCP1 and MCP2 and eCS 1.0 and 1.1 IIRC, can't remember now whether eCS 1.2 also, but as I had been automatically enabling virtually everything since V2.10, it was second-nature to do so -- heck with the RO attributes being carried forward to the HDD with eCS 1.1 for the dll controlling the desktop theme icons it was essential to have attrib available if you wanted any changes activated. I guess the only reason for it [along with the other utilities - utility disk creation and REXX included] not being automatically enabled was intended for the corporate area where SysAdmins wouldn't want "sometime OS/2 users" being in a position where they could really screw-up their systems, and thus need a lot of additional support! -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [ISP blocks *.exe, *.cmd, * dot com, *.bat, *.reg attachments] [Please use zipped versions of above] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:22:06 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: VCD nickl at pacific dot net dot au wrote: >Hi All. > >Thought I'd try some experimenting.... > >I have burnt 3 x mpg episodes to CD. Our DVD player doesn't see them, but >I think Kenny's does. > >I've seen DVD Recorder (the whitegoods type) drop from $900.00 to $288, >but we still can't afford that. > >We are still a CD only (and LP for that matter) family, except for a >Viewmaster DVD player. It doesn't like anything I've burnt to CD's. > >However what I did do today was this: 1) copy 3 x f*rtur*ma episodes into >d:\temp 2) renamed the 3 episodes to 8x3 terminology. Disk space used = >680MB 3) went to d:\utils\misofs and invoked d:\tmp\future_1.iso d:\temp\. > I made the ISO File of 680MB 4) Inserted a >blank CD, fired up the Recorder Window of RSJ, and dragged the >Future_1.ISO image in....it was written in a LONG time, but the CD was >cool on exit. > >On Warpvision, the 3 MPG's still come up, and all are played. On Windows >media Player...same thing. Our hopeless DVD player (a ViewMaster) sees >nothing. Kenny's DVD Player (a Phillips) sees the raw MPG's (on another >disk), but prefers this one. All 3 episodes play! The local whitegoods >store wouldn't let me try their new machines. Pity. I *may* have bought >one. :-) > >So, I wonder if I have really written a VCD? What started me on this >"trip" was the local Tandy salesman said "If you use Nero........" I >reasoned (probably inaccurately) that a VCD was MPG's or AVI's held >together in an ISO format. True or false? . > >OK, given that my Viewmaster is probably a bit dated, and the kids stay >too long in front of the computer anyway, does anyone have a video player >(about $50-$100's worth) that can "play VCD's", and will actually play raw >MPG's (like the Phillips), or has done something similar (and obviously >*much* better) to what I have done, and got a result, without all the >dithering of the M$ burners? > >Regards > >NICK > > > Hi Nick - DON"T pay $288 for a DVD-RW drive !! They're down below $100 now ! I recommend the Pioneer range, however all makes are pretty good now a days (and OS/2 compatible). Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:08:03 +1030 From: Paul Smedley Subject: Re: VCD Ed, Ed Durrant wrote: > Hi Nick - DON"T pay $288 for a DVD-RW drive !! They're down below $100 > now ! I recommend the Pioneer range, however all makes are pretty good > now a days (and OS/2 compatible). He's talking about a standalone DVD Video recorder here - if you can get one of those for below $100 I'd love to know where :P Cheers, Paul. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:10:16 +1030 From: Paul Smedley Subject: Re: VCD Hiya Nick, nickl at pacific dot net dot au wrote: > Hi All. > > Thought I'd try some experimenting.... > > I have burnt 3 x mpg episodes to CD. Our DVD player doesn't see them, but > I think Kenny's does. > > I've seen DVD Recorder (the whitegoods type) drop from $900.00 to $288, > but we still can't afford that. > > We are still a CD only (and LP for that matter) family, except for a > Viewmaster DVD player. It doesn't like anything I've burnt to CD's. > > However what I did do today was this: 1) copy 3 x f*rtur*ma episodes into > d:\temp 2) renamed the 3 episodes to 8x3 terminology. Disk space used = > 680MB 3) went to d:\utils\misofs and invoked d:\tmp\future_1.iso d:\temp\. > I made the ISO File of 680MB 4) Inserted a > blank CD, fired up the Recorder Window of RSJ, and dragged the > Future_1.ISO image in....it was written in a LONG time, but the CD was > cool on exit. Just copying some MPG files to a CD doesn't make it a VCD... You need to use something like http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/mmedia/video/vcdimager-0_7_12-os2-bin.zip to write the MPG files to CD in a format like a VCD uses. Cheers, Paul. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:04:14 +1000 From: "Robert Traynor (BobT)" Subject: Re: VCD On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:45:35 +0800, nickl at pacific dot net dot au wrote: > However what I did do today was this: 1) copy 3 x f*rtur*ma episodes into > d:\temp 2) renamed the 3 episodes to 8x3 terminology. Disk space used = > 680MB 3) went to d:\utils\misofs and invoked d:\tmp\future_1.iso d:\temp\. > I made the ISO File of 680MB 4) Inserted a > blank CD, fired up the Recorder Window of RSJ, and dragged the > Future_1.ISO image in....it was written in a LONG time, but the CD was > cool on exit. Hi, If the files now on the CD are still *.mpg then you simply have created a DATA CD that contains mpg files. Some home DVD players will play them, some won't. VCD's and DVD's are created from mpg files but are converted to a different FileName.extension for each. VCD's are mpeg1 files and are *.DAT and placed on CD's, while DVD's are *.VOB created on DVD's. BTW, VOB files created on a CD is yet another variation and in NERO speak is called a "Mini DVD", only some DVD home players will play these ones, too. Perhaps someone else could tell you how to convert to these formats under os/2. I would be interested myself as I have only done it under WinXP. Regards, Robert Traynor (BobT). 21 March 2005 8:04 ,-._|\ Robert Traynor (BobT) / Oz \ email rtraynor at removeme.optusnet dot com dot au \_,--.x/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:12:53 +0800 From: nickl at pacific dot net dot au Subject: Re: VCD Hi Paul and All. Thanks for your replies. In <423DDFB0.5070608 at smedley.info>, on 03/21/2005 at 07:10 AM, Paul Smedley said: >Hiya Nick, >nickl at pacific dot net dot au wrote: >> Hi All. >> >> Thought I'd try some experimenting.... >> >> I have burnt 3 x mpg episodes to CD. Our DVD player doesn't see them, but >> I think Kenny's does. >> >> I've seen DVD Recorder (the whitegoods type) drop from $900.00 to $288, >> but we still can't afford that. >> >> We are still a CD only (and LP for that matter) family, except for a >> Viewmaster DVD player. It doesn't like anything I've burnt to CD's. >> >> However what I did do today was this: 1) copy 3 x f*rtur*ma episodes into >> d:\temp 2) renamed the 3 episodes to 8x3 terminology. Disk space used = >> 680MB 3) went to d:\utils\misofs and invoked > d:\tmp\future_1.iso d:\temp\. > I made the ISO File of 680MB 4) Inserted a >> blank CD, fired up the Recorder Window of RSJ, and dragged the >> Future_1.ISO image in....it was written in a LONG time, but the CD was >> cool on exit. >Just copying some MPG files to a CD doesn't make it a VCD... >You need to use something like >http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/mmedia/video/vcdimager-0_7_12-os2-bin.zip > to write the MPG files to CD in a format like a VCD uses. Am downloading now....will send a progress report. It'll be interesting. Thanks again. NICK ----------- >Cheers, >Paul. > ----------------------------------------------------------- nickl at pacific dot net dot au ----------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:33:24 +1030 From: brianb at kdfisher dot com dot au Subject: Re: TP 390E and PCMCIA slot network card John, I have not used the d-link card but had an IBM card in my TP390E. The autodetect did not work and the connection paramaters had to be entered into protocol.ini As the syntax for this is different from one nic to the next I can not quote you the exact entries to make. They will be at the end of protocol.ini and will specify data rate,10 or 100 and the duplex, full or half. The card documentation should include the info regarding these paramaters ----------------------------------------- Brian Butler System Administrator brianb at kdfisher dot com dot au |---------+----------------------------> | | "John Angelico" | | | | | | | | | 19/03/2005 13:39 | | | Please respond to| | | os2genau | | | | |---------+----------------------------> -----------------------------| | | | To: "OS/2 SIG Mailing List" | | cc: | | Subject: TP 390E and PCMCIA slot network card | -----------------------------| Hi all. For some time I have known that my previously working Xircom Ethernet PCMCIA card (with BNC connector for coax cable) has not been working. After a slow process of testing including replacing the dongle, I have accepted that it's probably the card that has been damaged (after checking in Win98 which told me "there is something wrong with your Xircom card. Please check your network devices and start again") Today I bought a D-Link 650 card after checking NicPak and other sources to ensure I got a card which a) had a BNC connector for my coax network cables b) had OS/2 support Now I have to get used to a new set of card characteristics including that it defaults to an address and interrupt setting on boot. The os2warp.be site is still rebuilding their Notebook/2 section so I can't see what others have said about setting up the card. Does anyone have experience with the card on a Thinkpad, and can anyone please tell me what I need to do to make connections? PC-Card Director sees the card, recognises the manufacturer but does not have any resources assigned to it. What more would people like to know about the machine etc? Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... Internet Lie #2: The Internet is simple and easy to use. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:24:14 +0800 From: Kev Subject: Re: attrib command Hi Dennis Ed Durrant wrote: > Dennis Nolan wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> Does anyone have an idea why attrib doesn't work in eCS 1.2? >> >> It's mentioned in the help system but doesn't seem to work for me. >> I just get >> >> SYS1041: The name attrib is not recognized as an >> internal or external command, operable program or batch file. >> >> I want to be able to recreate files when their configuration files >> have been changed, without having to check content etc. I have eCS 1.2 and it works for me. > Hi Dennis, it sounds like the operating system cannot find the program > attrib.exe - it needs to be in a directory that is in the path statement > in config.sys. > > Suggestion - go to the command line and from the root directory of your > system drive, do DIR attrib.exe /s to see where it is, it should be in > the \OS2 directory. If you find it, copy it there and then you should be > OK. If it's not on the system, that's very strange, but you could try > copying attrib.exe from eCS 1.1 or OS/1 Warp 4 CP2. This is what I'd do next too. Someone later suggested that you might have to tick a particular box to have it installed. I don't know because I always install all the extras anyway. Cheers Kev ========================= Kev Downes kdownes at tpg dot com dot au ph 0404 7 0808 2 Windows isn't the answer. Windows is the question. The answer is NO! I use, recommend and support OS/2 Warp and eComStation. ========================= "Jesus Christ is the centre of everything and the object of everything; He who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world and nothing of himself." Blaise Pascal ========================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:45:54 +1100 From: Dennis Nolan Subject: Re: attrib command Thanks all, don't know why it wasn't installed, but now it is and it's working. When a file is saved the system sets the archive attribute, so when I generate html files from their configuration files I will clear the archive attribute. And of course only use those configuration files with the archive attribute set. Works ok when there is one configuration file per html file, but where you have many html files generated by the one configuration file then other means must be found. I'm considering using CRC testing to see what needs to be updated. Just in case anyone has a suggestion, what I'm doing is a web gallery All the photos are jpg's and in their own directory. For simplicity each photo page will have a single photo and standard navigation controls. I have one file which contain all the captions for the photos and another file which defines the grouping of the photos. When I add photos or change anything all the pages are recreated even if only a caption has been altered. Recreating every page is not an issue, but it's a bit tiresome having to upload all those files which are the same as those already on the site. Maybe the easiest way is to generate them to a temp directory and then do a CRC or line by line compare between the new file and the old and replace those files which aren't the same. Anyway thanks for the help, when it wasn't there I was concerned that it might have been a LVM issue. Regards Dennis Mike O'Connor wrote: > Dennis Nolan wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> Does anyone have an idea why attrib doesn't work in eCS 1.2? >> >> It's mentioned in the help system but doesn't seem to work for me. >> I just get >> >> SYS1041: The name attrib is not recognized as an >> internal or external command, operable program or batch file. >> >> I want to be able to recreate files when their configuration files >> have been changed, without having to check content etc. >> >> Regards >> Dennis. > > > > Hi Dennis, > > I don't follow what you are trying to do, unless you mean to remove > those attributes than prevent you from deleting the original versions? > > This is what shows up on my eCS 1.2 system, where attrib.exe > definitely works! : > > Volume in drive E has no label. > The Volume Serial Number is FC6B:25BF. > Directory of E:\os2 > > 11/03/02 9:58 37,789 0 a--- ATTRIB.EXE > 1 file(s) 37,789 bytes used > 241,504,256 bytes free > > [output from "attrib /?"] > Use the ATTRIB command to display or change file attributes. > Syntax: > ATTRIB [+R or -R][+S or -S][+H or -H][+A or -A][drive:][path]filename > [/S] > where: > +R or -R Sets or cancels the read-only attribute. > +S or -S Sets or cancels the system file attribute. > +H or -H Sets or cancels the hidden file attribute. > +A or -A Sets or cancels the archive file attribute. > drive:\path Specifies the drive and directory. > filename Specifies the file you want to change. > /S Processes all subdirectories. > > Sounds like you've deleted the file! > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 14 ==========================** Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:45:03 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: TP 390E and PCMCIA slot network card Hi Both, Go to \IBMCOM\MACS and open up the appropraite NIF file for your card - this is a text file and documents the available options (this is what MPTS uses to check you are entering the correct data). Cheers/2 Ed. brianb at kdfisher dot com dot au wrote: >John, >I have not used the d-link card but had an IBM card in my TP390E. > >The autodetect did not work and the >connection paramaters had to be entered into protocol.ini > >As the syntax for this is different from one nic to the next I can >not quote you the exact entries to make. >They will be at the end of protocol.ini and will specify >data rate,10 or 100 and the duplex, full or half. > >The card documentation should include the info >regarding these paramaters >----------------------------------------- >Brian Butler >System Administrator >brianb at kdfisher dot com dot au > > >|---------+----------------------------> >| | "John Angelico" | >| | | | .au> | >| | | >| | 19/03/2005 13:39 | >| | Please respond to| >| | os2genau | >| | | >|---------+----------------------------> > -----------------------------| > | | > | To: "OS/2 SIG Mailing List" | > | cc: | > | Subject: TP 390E and PCMCIA slot network card | > -----------------------------| > > > > >Hi all. > >For some time I have known that my previously working Xircom Ethernet >PCMCIA >card (with BNC connector for coax cable) has >not been working. After a slow process of testing including replacing the >dongle, I have accepted that it's probably the card that >has been damaged (after checking in Win98 which told me "there is something >wrong with your Xircom card. Please check your >network devices and start again") > >Today I bought a D-Link 650 card after checking NicPak and other sources to >ensure I got a card which >a) had a BNC connector for my coax network cables >b) had OS/2 support > >Now I have to get used to a new set of card characteristics including that >it >defaults to an address and interrupt setting on boot. > >The os2warp.be site is still rebuilding their Notebook/2 section so I can't >see what others have said about setting up the card. > >Does anyone have experience with the card on a Thinkpad, and can anyone >please tell me what I need to do to make >connections? > >PC-Card Director sees the card, recognises the manufacturer but does not >have >any resources assigned to it. > >What more would people like to know about the machine etc? > > > > > >Best regards >John Angelico >OS/2 SIG >os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or >talldad at kepl dot com dot au >___________________ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 15 ==========================** Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:47:08 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: VCD Paul Smedley wrote: > Ed, > > > Ed Durrant wrote: > >> Hi Nick - DON"T pay $288 for a DVD-RW drive !! They're down below >> $100 now ! I recommend the Pioneer range, however all makes are >> pretty good now a days (and OS/2 compatible). > > He's talking about a standalone DVD Video recorder here - if you can > get one of those for below $100 I'd love to know where :P > > Cheers, > > Paul. > Whoops - SORRY - I thought we were talking computers. A$288,- sounds about right for a Hi-Fi DVD recorder, actually it sounds like a pretty good price, not much more expensive that a VCR ! Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 16 ==========================** Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:53:24 +0100 From: Kris Steenhaut Subject: Re: attrib command Kev schreef: > Someone later suggested that you might have to tick a particular box > to have it installed. Indeed. But you'll have to agree it's inhuman to have to run the whole eCS install again just to retrieve ONE single file. And in my opinion it is stupid too. The file should be included in the files of the minimum install already. Elementery. That's why I'd sent the file immediately to Dennis. I don't know what I am talking about according to the enlighted, but still that was the right thing to do. -- Groeten uit Gent, Kris ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 17 ==========================** Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:06:24 +0100 From: Kris Steenhaut Subject: Re: attrib command Dennis Nolan schreef: > Recreating every page is not an issue, but it's a bit tiresome having > to upload all those files which are the same as those already on the > site. I strongly recommend you to alter politics. Use jalbum, and it will do ALL the tedious and laborious work in your place. jAlbum is a java app working perfectly (and quick) with java131 as well as GC java141 (and for sure with innotek java too) http://jalbum dot net/ Have a look here: http://www.kolibrieweg dot net/ and click onto the tomcat. Everything is done not by me but automagically by jAlbum. -- Groeten uit Gent, Kris ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 18 ==========================** Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:14:19 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: attrib command Kris Steenhaut wrote: > > > Kev schreef: > >> Someone later suggested that you might have to tick a particular box >> to have it installed. > > > > Indeed. > > But you'll have to agree it's inhuman to have to run the whole eCS > install again just to retrieve ONE single file. And in my opinion it > is stupid too. The file should be included in the files of the minimum > install already. Elementery. > > That's why I'd sent the file immediately to Dennis. I don't know what > I am talking about according to the enlighted, but still that was the > right thing to do. > I suspect Dennis got the file from several people as I sent it also ! (under OS/2 Warp4 - don't know about eCS but it "ought" to be the same) one option, would be to run selective install (type INSTALL at the command line or select the object through the WPS), select System Utilities in the setup and installation screen and then press next and insert the install media when requested. By the way on my (US version) of Merlin CP2, the two items NOT selected are "Link Object modules" and "installation utilities" - on this version, at least, "change file attributes" is selected by default. This may only be the case on the US, CP2 version though. Cheers/2 Ed. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------