From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:01:10 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1089 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Saturday 09 April 2005 Number 1089 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 WoolWorths and OS/2 : David Shearer" 2 Re: WoolWorths and OS/2 : Kev 3 Re: WoolWorths and OS/2 : Ed Durrant 4 Re: WoolWorths and OS/2 : John Angelico" 5 Re: WoolWorths and OS/2 : nickl at pacific dot net dot au 6 Object Rexx : Dennis Nolan 7 Re: WoolWorths and OS/2 : Gavin Miller 8 Re: WoolWorths and OS/2 : Kev **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 14:52:39 +1000 From: "David Shearer" Subject: WoolWorths and OS/2 I was at Woolworths today and to my surprise saw a PC Monitor with an OS/2 error screen saying something about a printer error etc. It was a blue screen with a blue grey box with the error message referring the user to the OS/2 Desktop. I figure it is probably OS/2 2.1. It was an IBM monitor attached to an old 486 sx33 IBM box. Amazing it is still in use. I am not sure what it actually does - I might have another look next time I go shopping. David Shearer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:34:46 +0000 From: Kev Subject: Re: WoolWorths and OS/2 Bendigo Bank also uses OS/2. I hate to admit it, but I crashed a teller machine once and it displayed the standard Warp4 splash screen on reboot. I pretty sure their desktop screens are Warp also. Kev David Shearer wrote: > I was at Woolworths today and to my surprise saw a PC Monitor with an OS/2 error > screen saying something about a printer error etc. It was a blue screen with a blue grey > box with the error message referring the user to the OS/2 Desktop. I figure it is probably > OS/2 2.1. > > It was an IBM monitor attached to an old 486 sx33 IBM box. Amazing it is still in use. I > am not sure what it actually does - I might have another look next time I go shopping. > > David Shearer > > > > > > -- ========================= Kev Downes kdownes at tpg dot com dot au ph 0404 7 0808 2 Windows isn't the answer. Windows is the question. The answer is NO! I use, recommend and support OS/2 Warp and eComStation. ========================= "Jesus Christ is the centre of everything and the object of everything; He who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world and nothing of himself." Blaise Pascal ========================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:41:55 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: WoolWorths and OS/2 David Shearer wrote: >I was at Woolworths today and to my surprise saw a PC Monitor with an OS/2 error >screen saying something about a printer error etc. It was a blue screen with a blue grey >box with the error message referring the user to the OS/2 Desktop. I figure it is probably >OS/2 2.1. > >It was an IBM monitor attached to an old 486 sx33 IBM box. Amazing it is still in use. I >am not sure what it actually does - I might have another look next time I go shopping. > >David Shearer > > > > > > I applied to Wollworth's in Adelaide when I lived there, nearly 10 years ago now, and they were interested in my OS/2 qualifications as they had a 3 year project to move all of their applications off OS/2 onto the "wonderful" Windows NT - looks like it never happenned. Am I surprised ..... ??? NO ! Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:07:12 +1000 (AEST) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: WoolWorths and OS/2 On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:34:46 +0000, Kev wrote: Metinkit also true that the Bank of Melbourne still uses OS/2 on their front counter machines, but the biggest bank using OS/2 (which bank?) went MS some years ago. MS trumpeted with great fanfare its win of Qantas, Telstra and said bank. Sad (!) bank couldn't get NT to do what the *incomplete* OS/2 project had already achieved. Many dollars and a few senior heads rolled, and OS/2 project was eventually reinstated. However, IBM was not allowed to market that fact and IBM *agreed* to that condition - sheesh! I would have argued for the same marketing as the predecessors. Project served its time on the front counter of CBA, and IIRC has recently been announced to be supplanted by XP. Anyone want to run a book on how much money will disappear and how many senior heads might be chopped this time? If XP "succeeds" in replacing OS/2 (v2.x or 3 I believe), I will be happy to tell world+dog that XP is only equivalent to warp 3 aka 8 year old alternative. >Bendigo Bank also uses OS/2. I hate to admit it, but I crashed a teller >machine once and it displayed the standard Warp4 splash screen on >reboot. I pretty sure their desktop screens are Warp also. > >Kev > >David Shearer wrote: >> I was at Woolworths today and to my surprise saw a PC Monitor with an OS/2 error >> screen saying something about a printer error etc. It was a blue screen with a blue grey >> box with the error message referring the user to the OS/2 Desktop. I figure it is probably >> OS/2 2.1. >> >> It was an IBM monitor attached to an old 486 sx33 IBM box. Amazing it is still in use. I >> am not sure what it actually does - I might have another look next time I go shopping. >> Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... Windows XP: Simulated eCS! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:19:17 +0900 From: nickl at pacific dot net dot au Subject: Re: WoolWorths and OS/2 Hi Ed et Al In <42577933.6080109 at bigpond dot net dot au>, on 04/09/2005 at 04:41 PM, Ed Durrant said: >David Shearer wrote: >>I was at Woolworths today and to my surprise saw a PC Monitor with an OS/2 error >>screen saying something about a printer error etc. It was a blue screen with a blue grey >>box with the error message referring the user to the OS/2 Desktop. I figure it is probably >>OS/2 2.1. >> >>It was an IBM monitor attached to an old 486 sx33 IBM box. Amazing it is still in use. I >>am not sure what it actually does - I might have another look next time I go shopping. The computer attached to the trolley that has the wand that interprets the bar code on their items (whatever that is) boots up to Warp 3 Connect, and it still uses McAfee Anti-Virus for OS/2. That was in our local store at Kelmscott. Every store that I have seen in W.A. has OS/2 "just behind the smokes counter". I saw my sister two years ago, and the first thing I did when we went shopping, was to check. In Northbridge N.S.W. (not W.A., although it's probably there too) it was there as well. I'm sure that can be verified even today. A young friend who has just started Uni, has a part-time job at the Woolies warehouse at the Airport side of Kewdale. His workmates (all drive forklifts) said that "they will be phasing out that OS for Windows....soon". What is soon? All my Windows friends made a point of ringing me up and telling me. I don't know what I was supposed to do, but I'm still here :-) >> >>David Shearer >> >> >> >> >> >> >I applied to Wollworth's in Adelaide when I lived there, nearly 10 years >ago now, and they were interested in my OS/2 qualifications as they had >a 3 year project to move all of their applications off OS/2 onto the >"wonderful" Windows NT - looks like it never happenned. >Am I surprised ..... ??? NO ! My son works part-time for Myer....the opposition, and the word around there is that Woolies is known for the idiom "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". It may go one day, but they've had plenty of time to find something better to replace it. I don't believe they can, and watching a movie trailer of "Gone With The Wind" as your money disappears into the cash register wouldn't enthuse many people....that's what XP is good for. Although more personnel could be employed to check that the drives are defragmented, scanned and popup free. That's what seems to be happening in North America. Having said that, I'm no further in making a VCD under eCs. It probably can be done, but not by me. I got the DVD Player to run, it could see tracks, but one saw a blank screen and heard grey noise. Thanks for your help. Regards NICK >Cheers/2 >Ed. > ----------------------------------------------------------- nickl at pacific dot net dot au ----------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:57:21 +1000 From: Dennis Nolan Subject: Object Rexx Hi all Does anybody know what causes object rexx to intermittently screw with the system? For some time now I've had Object Rexx causing problems. The symptoms are: When the Object Rexx program starts it immediately finishes. Does nothing. The window closes immediately and if the session is set to not close the window on completion, the title bar shows that the program has completed. Occasionally when this happens there is a "SOMDD" item on the task bar. When it is there it is impossible to delete or stop. Sometimes it isn't there. The only remedy is to reboot the system. Over the last couple of days I've been trying to get Object Rexx working with DrDialog. Same thing happened the application didn't even open. After rebooting the system got as far as displaying the background (A great photo of hurricane Ivan off the Florida coast) and then froze. Nothing to do but reboot Then found that most of the files in the os2\boot directory were unavailable. Most seemed to be associated with the file system. It did try to run chkdsk but it kept returning with an error. I tried to use the stored desktop backup from 4/4/05 - same problem. I finally had to get out the install CD, go to the maintenance section and do the chkdsk from there. Now all seems to be back to normal. So has anyone heard of this type of problem when running Object Rexx Regards Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:53:25 +1000 From: Gavin Miller Subject: Re: WoolWorths and OS/2 The last time I went into Bendigo Bank they had Windows on the desktops... and I think it was Win98!! Certainly not XP. Was this ATM you crashed an old text based unit or one of the newer pretty graphical ones? Hey did you hang around after the reboot to see if the banking software started? Some Windows based ATM's have been left stranded at the desktop. :-) Kev wrote: > Bendigo Bank also uses OS/2. I hate to admit it, but I crashed a > teller machine once and it displayed the standard Warp4 splash screen > on reboot. I pretty sure their desktop screens are Warp also. > > Kev > > David Shearer wrote: > >> I was at Woolworths today and to my surprise saw a PC Monitor with an >> OS/2 error screen saying something about a printer error etc. It was >> a blue screen with a blue grey box with the error message referring >> the user to the OS/2 Desktop. I figure it is probably OS/2 2.1. >> >> It was an IBM monitor attached to an old 486 sx33 IBM box. Amazing >> it is still in use. I am not sure what it actually does - I might >> have another look next time I go shopping. >> >> David Shearer >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:57:12 +0000 From: Kev Subject: Re: WoolWorths and OS/2 Gavin Miller wrote: > The last time I went into Bendigo Bank they had Windows on the > desktops... and I think it was Win98!! Certainly not XP. Was this ATM > you crashed an old text based unit or one of the newer pretty graphical > ones? > > Hey did you hang around after the reboot to see if the banking software > started? Some Windows based ATM's have been left stranded at the > desktop. :-) This was about 2 yrs ago at the Nth Perth branch, and yes it all came up again and I was able to complete my transaction. At the time it was the only Bendigo ATM in Perth. Cheers Kev ========================= Kev Downes kdownes at tpg dot com dot au ph 0404 7 0808 2 Windows isn't the answer. Windows is the question. The answer is NO! I use, recommend and support OS/2 Warp and eComStation. ========================= "Jesus Christ is the centre of everything and the object of everything; He who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world and nothing of himself." Blaise Pascal ========================= ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------