From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 00:02:07 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1117 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Monday 30 May 2005 Number 1117 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: Wireless PC Card with Warp 3 : Ed Durrant 2 Re: Firefox Bookmarks files : Ed Durrant 3 Re: Firefox Bookmarks files : Ed Durrant 4 Re: Firefox Bookmarks files : Paul Smedley" 5 Re: GPhoto2 - Was: Firefox Bookmarks files : Ed Durrant 6 Warp FP15 woes : Glenn Montgomery 7 Re: GPhoto2 - Was: Firefox Bookmarks files : Dennis Nolan 8 Re: GPhoto2 - Was: Firefox Bookmarks files : Paul Smedley" 9 OS/2 Referencs in NCS last night : Dennis Nolan 10 Re: OS/2 Referencs in NCS last night : Voytek Eymont" 11 Re: Warp FP15 woes : Ed Durrant 12 Re: GPhoto2 - Was: Firefox Bookmarks files : Ed Durrant 13 Re: OS/2 Referencs in NCS last night : Ed Durrant 14 Re: OS/2 Referencs in NCS last night : Ian Manners" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 07:56:43 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Wireless PC Card with Warp 3 David Shearer wrote: >On an old Thinkpad (P133 365XD) I installed Warp 3 with fix pak 38 and installed the lan >and tcpip apps from the Warp 3 Connect CD ROM. To my surprise i can get wireless >lan and internet support - it works with the IBM Hi Rate Wireless PC Card drivers and >gives lan and internet access. > >Admittedly, internet support is a bit lacking on Warp 3 - but at least it works - talk about >backward compatibility!!! > >David Shearer > > > Hi David, Out of interest, which PCMCIA WLAN WiFi card are you using ?? Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 08:04:21 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Firefox Bookmarks files Dennis Nolan wrote: > > > Ed Durrant wrote: > >> Dennis Nolan wrote: >> >>> Hi All >>> >>> I've just noticed that the1Gb partition I have reserved for Internet >>> use only has 112Mb free. >>> >>> Upon investigation I find in my Firefox Profiles dennis directory >>> that I have some 3182 bookmark files. >>> Looking at the creation dates, it seems that whenever I use the >>> bookmark tag in firefox it writes a new copy of the file. >>> As most of the files seem to be over 220Kb, they consume over 700Mb >>> of the disk. >>> >>> So anybody know why this is happening and how to stop it. >>> >>> I'm using ver 1.0 >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Dennis >>> >> Is it possible that your bookmarks file has its attrib set to >> read-only ?? The total space use in my version of the directory is >> about 900KB. >> >> Cheers/2 >> >> Ed. > >> >> > >> >> > No Ed > They are all set to archive only > > I've just dowmloaded and installed the latest version 1.0.4 same > story, multiple bookmarks files. > > I've just been doing some tests and a new bookmark file seems to be > created every 15 seconds or so. > I don't know if it needs to be triggered by clicking the bookmark tab > first. > > I've just fired up the Thinkpad, no problem there. > > Now the only real difference is that I have a seperate Profiles > directory, the profiles for firefox and thunderbird are > sub-directories of it. > I have a directory Internet with Thunderbird and firefox sub directories > also a directory Profiles again with Mozilla and thunderbird > sub-directories. Firefox is a sub-directory of mozilla. > > I also notice that there is no bookmarks.bak file > > I'll try creating one and see what happens. > > Regards > > Dennis. > All sounds a bit strange. As you say iy could be to do with the directory structure but why would it create a new file every 15 seconds ?? When you say you just installed version 1.04, did you first de-install the previous version or installed over the top ? I use firefox v 1.04 and my profile directory is under firefox, under mozilla as you say and I don't have the problem (or at least not yet). I do have a bookmarks.bak file but why would that be relevant ?? This 15 seconds creation may be the key. Try typing about:config in the URL field and see if there is any setting, set to 15 seconds.. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 08:07:04 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Firefox Bookmarks files OK then, ignore my previous suggestions ... I had read somewhere that firefox could have a problem if the bookmarks file was set to read-only, hidden will of course cause a similar problem, where it can't write the file, so it will create a temporary one under a new name. If as you say the bak file is hidden and perhaps it retrys the backup every 15 seconds, then yes, this makes sense ! But what set the attributes to hidden ??? Cheers/2 Ed. Dennis Nolan wrote: > Problem seems to be resolved > > The files Bookmarks.html and Bookmarks.bak had their hidden attribute > set. > > I cleared the hidden attribute ans now everything seems to be ok. > > Regards > > Dennis > > > > Dennis Nolan wrote: > >> >> >> Ed Durrant wrote: >> >>> Dennis Nolan wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All >>>> >>>> I've just noticed that the1Gb partition I have reserved for >>>> Internet use only has 112Mb free. >>>> >>>> Upon investigation I find in my Firefox Profiles dennis directory >>>> that I have some 3182 bookmark files. >>>> Looking at the creation dates, it seems that whenever I use the >>>> bookmark tag in firefox it writes a new copy of the file. >>>> As most of the files seem to be over 220Kb, they consume over 700Mb >>>> of the disk. >>>> >>>> So anybody know why this is happening and how to stop it. >>>> >>>> I'm using ver 1.0 >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Dennis >>>> >>> Is it possible that your bookmarks file has its attrib set to >>> read-only ?? The total space use in my version of the directory is >>> about 900KB. >>> >>> Cheers/2 >>> >>> Ed. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> No Ed >> They are all set to archive only >> >> I've just dowmloaded and installed the latest version 1.0.4 same >> story, multiple bookmarks files. >> >> I've just been doing some tests and a new bookmark file seems to be >> created every 15 seconds or so. >> I don't know if it needs to be triggered by clicking the bookmark tab >> first. >> >> I've just fired up the Thinkpad, no problem there. >> >> Now the only real difference is that I have a seperate Profiles >> directory, the profiles for firefox and thunderbird are >> sub-directories of it. >> I have a directory Internet with Thunderbird and firefox sub directories >> also a directory Profiles again with Mozilla and thunderbird >> sub-directories. Firefox is a sub-directory of mozilla. >> >> I also notice that there is no bookmarks.bak file >> >> I'll try creating one and see what happens. >> >> Regards >> >> Dennis. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 08:00:21 +0930 From: "Paul Smedley" Subject: Re: Firefox Bookmarks files Hi Guys, On 29/5/2005, "Ed Durrant" wrote: >OK then, ignore my previous suggestions ... > >I had read somewhere that firefox could have a problem if the bookmarks >file was set to read-only, hidden will of course cause a similar >problem, where it can't write the file, so it will create a temporary >one under a new name. If as you say the bak file is hidden and perhaps >it retrys the backup every 15 seconds, then yes, this makes sense ! > >But what set the attributes to hidden ??? I believe a bug in mozilla that should be fixed now.... Cheers, Paul. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 08:43:56 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: GPhoto2 - Was: Firefox Bookmarks files Paul Smedley wrote: >Hi Guys, > >On 29/5/2005, "Ed Durrant" wrote: > > > >>OK then, ignore my previous suggestions ... >> >>I had read somewhere that firefox could have a problem if the bookmarks >>file was set to read-only, hidden will of course cause a similar >>problem, where it can't write the file, so it will create a temporary >>one under a new name. If as you say the bak file is hidden and perhaps >>it retrys the backup every 15 seconds, then yes, this makes sense ! >> >>But what set the attributes to hidden ??? >> >> >I believe a bug in mozilla that should be fixed now.... > >Cheers, > > > Thanks for that clarification Paul. On GPhoto2 have you been able to transfer pictures etc. from your Kodak camera ? I tried both of my cheap digital camera and neither were recognised (which didn't surprise me). If the software works and there's a list of supported cameras, this may be a good time for me to purchase a more "mainstream" digital camera ! Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 17:31:43 +1000 From: Glenn Montgomery Subject: Warp FP15 woes Hello John, Long time no speak. Trust you and yours are all well. Could you please relay this to the os/2 list as I cannot get through presumably because I am not using my email. My system went down in a smouldering heap, gradually but definitely!!! Thanks John Glenn. Hello all, After my os/2 system's demise, I have since re-installed os/2 and applied fp15. I then rebooted only to get part way through, where a message came up (very briefly) with something about vw32.sys?? (i'm pretty sure that was the file mentioned) then the system rebooted, and I have not been able to get in since. Once I select os/2 from boot manager menu. I get the briefest os little white os/2 box then it reboots. I previously used fp12 and it worked on this hardware. Any help would be extremely wonderful. Many Thanks Glenn Montgomery ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 10:33:44 +1000 From: Dennis Nolan Subject: Re: GPhoto2 - Was: Firefox Bookmarks files Hi all I have my profiles separate from the firefox and thunderbird directory structure so that when I install the new version I first delete the old version by deleting the firefox or thunderbird directory, then I unzip the new version, move the directory to the correct location and start the application, which enables it Then all I have to do is re-create the shadow of the executable on the desktop. I've found that this works well. Also if reinstalling eCS, exclude Mozilla and Netscape from the install. Then there seems to be no problem getting firefox as the default browser. regards Dennis. Ed Durrant wrote: > Paul Smedley wrote: > >> Hi Guys, >> >> On 29/5/2005, "Ed Durrant" wrote: >> >> >> >>> OK then, ignore my previous suggestions ... >>> >>> I had read somewhere that firefox could have a problem if the bookmarks >>> file was set to read-only, hidden will of course cause a similar >>> problem, where it can't write the file, so it will create a temporary >>> one under a new name. If as you say the bak file is hidden and perhaps >>> it retrys the backup every 15 seconds, then yes, this makes sense ! >>> >>> But what set the attributes to hidden ??? >>> >> >> I believe a bug in mozilla that should be fixed now.... >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> > > Thanks for that clarification Paul. > > On GPhoto2 have you been able to transfer pictures etc. from your > Kodak camera ? I tried both of my cheap digital camera and neither > were recognised (which didn't surprise me). If the software works and > there's a list of supported cameras, this may be a good time for me to > purchase a more "mainstream" digital camera ! > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 10:43:30 +0930 From: "Paul Smedley" Subject: Re: GPhoto2 - Was: Firefox Bookmarks files Hi Ed, On 29/5/2005, "Ed Durrant" wrote: >On GPhoto2 have you been able to transfer pictures etc. from your Kodak >camera ? I tried both of my cheap digital camera and neither were >recognised (which didn't surprise me). If the software works and there's >a list of supported cameras, this may be a good time for me to purchase >a more "mainstream" digital camera ! There's a large list of 'supported' cameras at gphoto dot net I haven't yet been able to transfer pictures from my Kodak camera - however - I've been using a USB memory card reader to transfer files for the last 2 years or so with my camera. I'd like to use gphoto just to remove the hassle of having to remove the memory card - much easier to be able to drop the camera in the dock and fire up gphoto... Cheers, Paul. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 15:07:37 +1000 From: Dennis Nolan Subject: OS/2 Referencs in NCS last night On NCS last night, where they were looking into the fake death of a Navy computer geek, when the NCS geek had to translate a quip about a difference in opinion about the meaning of a regular guy The NCS geek said that "one man's Linnux is another man's OS/2." It was so unexpected that it took ten or fifteen seconds for me to realise what he was saying. Regards Dennis. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 15:53:28 +1000 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: OS/2 Referencs in NCS last night Dennis Nolan said: > On NCS last night, what is NCS ? -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 20:15:22 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Warp FP15 woes Glenn Montgomery wrote: >Hello John, > >Long time no speak. Trust you and yours are all well. > >Could you please relay this to the os/2 list as I cannot get through presumably >because I am not using my email. My system went down in a smouldering heap, >gradually but definitely!!! > >Thanks John >Glenn. > >Hello all, > >After my os/2 system's demise, I have since re-installed os/2 and applied fp15. >I then rebooted only to get part way through, where a message came up (very >briefly) with something about vw32.sys?? (i'm pretty sure that was the file >mentioned) then the system rebooted, and I have not been able to get in since. >Once I select os/2 from boot manager menu. I get the briefest os little white >os/2 box then it reboots. > >I previously used fp12 and it worked on this hardware. > >Any help would be extremely wonderful. > >Many Thanks >Glenn Montgomery > > > > OK, first thing to try .... restart and when the [] OS/2 appears, press Alt+F1 and select one of the archives - presuming you have archiving turned on. There should be 3 choices, I tend to go for the middle one, number 2. If this doesn't work or if you haven't any archives, go bck into ALT+F1 again and this time select to go to the command line (F2 option I think). See if the system boots to a command prompt. If it does run chkdsk /F on all drices apart from the one you have booted onto (normally C:). Then run Chkdsk C: and see if any errors are displayed. If there are errors displayed, then you will need to restart the system either from an OS/2 boot diskette or from your Warp 4 install CD - Press F3 when given the option. Run chkdsk C: /f from here and hope chkdsk can fix the errors. If none of this helps, Its time to wipe the partition and re-install !! You may wish to consider this as a chance to update to the current level, by going to mensys.nl and ordering an OS/2 Warp 4 to eComstation version 1.2 CD and booklet (or digital delivery if you want to burn the install CDs yourself). Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 20:39:12 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: GPhoto2 - Was: Firefox Bookmarks files Paul Smedley wrote: >Hi Ed, > >On 29/5/2005, "Ed Durrant" wrote: > > >>On GPhoto2 have you been able to transfer pictures etc. from your Kodak >>camera ? I tried both of my cheap digital camera and neither were >>recognised (which didn't surprise me). If the software works and there's >>a list of supported cameras, this may be a good time for me to purchase >>a more "mainstream" digital camera ! >> >> > >There's a large list of 'supported' cameras at gphoto dot net > >I haven't yet been able to transfer pictures from my Kodak camera - >however - I've been using a USB memory card reader to transfer files >for the last 2 years or so with my camera. > >I'd like to use gphoto just to remove the hassle of having to remove the >memory card - much easier to be able to drop the camera in the dock and >fire up gphoto... > >Cheers, > >Paul. > > Hi Paul, That's Gphoto dot org not Gphoto dot net (that seems to be a gateway to every kind of site - financial, games, music etc. etc.). I didn't realise that GPhoto2 was NOT the OS/2 version of GPhoto but just the 2nd generation of GPhoto and yes apparently it's supposed to support over 500 different cameras ! Interesting that the Kodak can't simply bee see as a USB MSD device as my "cheap and cherful" digital camera can ! I guess it runs some proprietry protocol ?? Anyway, I'm off to look though the list. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 20:44:27 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: OS/2 Referencs in NCS last night Voytek Eymont wrote: >Dennis Nolan said: > > >>On NCS last night, >> >> > >what is NCS ? > > > > I think he meant NCIS - its an american police type weekly program on Channel 10 TV 9:30 to 11 o'clock I think. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 14 ==========================** Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 23:58:48 -1100 From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: OS/2 Referencs in NCS last night I'm still trying to figure out of that was derogatory or not myself actually :-) And yes, took me by surprise as well. On 5/29/2005, "Dennis Nolan" wrote: >On NCS last night, where they were looking into the fake death of a Navy >computer geek, when the NCS geek had to translate a quip about a >difference in opinion about the meaning of a regular guy >The NCS geek said that "one man's Linnux is another man's OS/2." > >It was so unexpected that it took ten or fifteen seconds for me to >realise what he was saying. > >Regards >Dennis. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------