From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 00:02:07 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1119 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Friday 03 June 2005 Number 1119 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: Warp FP15 woes : Chris_neeson 2 Problems again with Firefox : Ed Durrant 3 Re: Problems again with Firefox : Ed Durrant 4 Re: Problems again with Firefox : Paul Smedley 5 Re: Problems again with Firefox : Dennis Nolan 6 Re: Problems again with Firefox : Ed Durrant 7 Re: Problems again with Firefox : Ed Durrant 8 Re: Problems again with Firefox : Mike O'Connor" 9 Re: Problems again with Firefox : John Angelico" 10 Re: DVD writable disks : Leigh Bunting **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 21:17:13 -0400 From: Chris_neeson Subject: Re: Warp FP15 woes ( apologies for the late input ). Glenn-via-John, if you haven't resolved this yet, try this refinement of Ed's suggestions * background: - vw32.sys is IBM's eMulatedDOS/WinOS2 driver for W32s - some verions won't load properly ( or something like that ) SO: * follow Ed's suggestions to boot to an OS/2 command prompt ( ALT-F1, select Command Prompt option ). * COPY config.sys to something that means something to you ( eg config.nfg ) * type TEDIT CONFIG.SYS ( should start a TEDIT session on config.sys ) * press ESCape to move the cursor into the text area ( from the 'command' line at the bottom of the screen ) * scroll through the text to find DEVICE=VW32.SYS ( or something like that ) * REMark it ( make it a comment ) * press F2 to save changes F3 to exit back to OS/2 prompt. * type EXIT for a reboot. * IF you can't get to a command prompt from your boot from hard disk, boot from the OS/2 install floppies and select F3 to exit to command prompt at one of the early screens in the install process That command prompt will be at A:, but you should be able to TEDIT C:CONFIG.SYS OR C:\OS2\TEDIT\CONFIG.SYS Good luck. Regards Chris. ---------------------------- Glenn Montgomery wrote: >Hello John, > >Long time no speak. Trust you and yours are all well. > >Could you please relay this to the os/2 list as I cannot get through presumably >because I am not using my email. My system went down in a smouldering heap, >gradually but definitely!!! > >Thanks John >Glenn. > >Hello all, > >After my os/2 system's demise, I have since re-installed os/2 and applied fp15. >I then rebooted only to get part way through, where a message came up (very >briefly) with something about vw32.sys?? (i'm pretty sure that was the file >mentioned) then the system rebooted, and I have not been able to get in since. >Once I select os/2 from boot manager menu. I get the briefest os little white >os/2 box then it reboots. > >I previously used fp12 and it worked on this hardware. > >Any help would be extremely wonderful. > >Many Thanks >Glenn Montgomery > > > > OK, first thing to try .... restart and when the [] OS/2 appears, press Alt+F1 and select one of the archives - presuming you have archiving turned on. There should be 3 choices, I tend to go for the middle one, number 2. If this doesn't work or if you haven't any archives, go bck into ALT+F1 again and this time select to go to the command line (F2 option I think). See if the system boots to a command prompt. If it does run chkdsk /F on all drices apart from the one you have booted onto (normally C:). Then run Chkdsk C: and see if any errors are displayed. If there are errors displayed, then you will need to restart the system either from an OS/2 boot diskette or from your Warp 4 install CD - Press F3 when given the option. Run chkdsk C: /f from here and hope chkdsk can fix the errors. If none of this helps, Its time to wipe the partition and re-install !! You may wish to consider this as a chance to update to the current level, by going to mensys.nl and ordering an OS/2 Warp 4 to eComstation version 1.2 CD and booklet (or digital delivery if you want to burn the install CDs yourself). Cheers/2 Ed. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- ----------------------- Internet Header -------------------------------- Sender: Received: from gateway1 dot comkal dot net (gateway1 dot comkal dot net [210.8.201.190]) by siaag1ak.mx dot compuserve dot com (8.12.11/8.12.7/SUN-2.17) with ESMTP id j4UAFbMl013220 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 06:15:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gateway1 dot comkal dot net (gateway1 dot comkal dot net [192.168.1.9]) by mail. (Weasel v1.73); 30 May 2005 20:15:37 +1000 Received: from omta01ps.mx.bigpond dot com (omta01ps.mx.bigpond dot com [144.140.82.153]) by mail. (Weasel v1.73) for ; 30 May 2005 20:15:31 +1000 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (really [147.10.151.88]) by omta01ps.mx.bigpond dot com with ESMTP id <20050530101526.WBPK6764.omta01ps.mx.bigpond dot com at [192.168.1.2]> for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 10:15:26 +0000 Message-ID: <429AE7BA.1000501 at bigpond dot net dot au> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 20:15:22 +1000 From: Ed Durrant User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (OS/2/20050322) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: os2genau at os2 dot org dot au Subject: Re: Warp FP15 woes References: <1117351903.42996fdf0fcb2 at webmail.aapt dot net dot au> In-Reply-To: <1117351903.42996fdf0fcb2 at webmail.aapt dot net dot au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at omta01ps.mx.bigpond dot com from [147.10.151.88] using ID edurrant at bigpond dot net dot au at Mon, 30 May 2005 10:15:26 +0000 Reply-To: os2genau at os2 dot org dot au List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: , , , X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.85, clamav-milter version 0.85 on siaag1ak.mx dot compuserve dot com X-Virus-Status: Clean ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 20:07:01 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Problems again with Firefox I had this problem soon after I switch to Firefox & Thunderbird from IBM Web Browser - now it's back again. If I start Firefox from its icon, it fails with an error in XPCOM.DLL - however if I access firefox from a link in an email in Thunderbird, the browser starts up withou any problems. The icon starts Firefox from it's own directory and there is no reference to IBMWB, Mozilla, Firefox or Thunderbird directories in either the path or libpath statements in config.sys. As I think both thunderbird and firefox see able to run with the XPCOM.DLL loaded by Thunderbird, should I simply overwrite firefoxs XPCOM.DLL with the one from thunderbird ?? Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 20:20:44 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Problems again with Firefox Ed Durrant wrote: > I had this problem soon after I switch to Firefox & Thunderbird from > IBM Web Browser - now it's back again. > > If I start Firefox from its icon, it fails with an error in XPCOM.DLL > - however if I access firefox from a link in an email in Thunderbird, > the browser starts up withou any problems. > > The icon starts Firefox from it's own directory and there is no > reference to IBMWB, Mozilla, Firefox or Thunderbird directories in > either the path or libpath statements in config.sys. > > As I think both thunderbird and firefox see able to run with the > XPCOM.DLL loaded by Thunderbird, should I simply overwrite firefoxs > XPCOM.DLL with the one from thunderbird ?? > > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. > - Some more information. If I start Firefox from it's icon and thunderbird is NOT running it starts OK, only if I have started thunderbird file (and presumably it's version of xpcom.dll is in memory) do I get the problem. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 19:55:40 +0930 From: Paul Smedley Subject: Re: Problems again with Firefox Hi Ed, Ed Durrant wrote: > I had this problem soon after I switch to Firefox & Thunderbird from IBM > Web Browser - now it's back again. > > If I start Firefox from its icon, it fails with an error in XPCOM.DLL - > however if I access firefox from a link in an email in Thunderbird, the > browser starts up withou any problems. > > The icon starts Firefox from it's own directory and there is no > reference to IBMWB, Mozilla, Firefox or Thunderbird directories in > either the path or libpath statements in config.sys. > > As I think both thunderbird and firefox see able to run with the > XPCOM.DLL loaded by Thunderbird, should I simply overwrite firefoxs > XPCOM.DLL with the one from thunderbird ?? > I've seen this before, however as I recall, I had to start Firefox first, and if Firefox was running, then Thunderbird would start. If Thunderbird was started first, Firefox wouldn't start. I'm not sure if copying Thunderbird's xpcom would work - my solution is to use Rich Walsh's run utility. I have run! copied into the FF directory as firefox!.exe and use this to launch firefox. I have run! copied into the Tbird directory as thunderbird!l.exe and use this to launch Thunderbird. These set the necessary libstrict etc statements to allow different versions of thunderbird & firefox to coexist nicely. Cheers, Paul. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 20:44:29 +1000 From: Dennis Nolan Subject: Re: Problems again with Firefox Ed Why do you meed to run the IBM Web Browser? Ed Durrant wrote: > Ed Durrant wrote: > >> I had this problem soon after I switch to Firefox & Thunderbird from >> IBM Web Browser - now it's back again. >> >> If I start Firefox from its icon, it fails with an error in XPCOM.DLL >> - however if I access firefox from a link in an email in Thunderbird, >> the browser starts up withou any problems. >> >> The icon starts Firefox from it's own directory and there is no >> reference to IBMWB, Mozilla, Firefox or Thunderbird directories in >> either the path or libpath statements in config.sys. >> >> As I think both thunderbird and firefox see able to run with the >> XPCOM.DLL loaded by Thunderbird, should I simply overwrite firefoxs >> XPCOM.DLL with the one from thunderbird ?? >> >> >> Cheers/2 >> >> Ed. >> - > > > Some more information. If I start Firefox from it's icon and > thunderbird is NOT running it starts OK, only if I have started > thunderbird file (and presumably it's version of xpcom.dll is in > memory) do I get the problem. > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 21:00:41 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Problems again with Firefox Paul Smedley wrote: > Hi Ed, > > Ed Durrant wrote: > >> I had this problem soon after I switch to Firefox & Thunderbird from >> IBM Web Browser - now it's back again. >> >> If I start Firefox from its icon, it fails with an error in XPCOM.DLL >> - however if I access firefox from a link in an email in Thunderbird, >> the browser starts up withou any problems. >> >> The icon starts Firefox from it's own directory and there is no >> reference to IBMWB, Mozilla, Firefox or Thunderbird directories in >> either the path or libpath statements in config.sys. >> >> As I think both thunderbird and firefox see able to run with the >> XPCOM.DLL loaded by Thunderbird, should I simply overwrite firefoxs >> XPCOM.DLL with the one from thunderbird ?? >> > I've seen this before, however as I recall, I had to start Firefox > first, and if Firefox was running, then Thunderbird would start. If > Thunderbird was started first, Firefox wouldn't start. > > I'm not sure if copying Thunderbird's xpcom would work - my solution > is to use Rich Walsh's run utility. > > I have run! copied into the FF directory as firefox!.exe and use this > to launch firefox. > > I have run! copied into the Tbird directory as thunderbird!l.exe and > use this to launch Thunderbird. > > These set the necessary libstrict etc statements to allow different > versions of thunderbird & firefox to coexist nicely. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > - Hi, Yes you have mentioned the Run! utility before however what I can't understand is that a week ago I could start these programs in either order without problems. What I have done in the meantime is to re-install Innotek Java 1.42 and link it into the Firefox Browser. By the way using either the firefox version of xcom.dll with thunderbird and the reverse made no difference at all ! Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 21:03:14 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Problems again with Firefox I don't (any more) but until Firefox and Thunderbird progressed to a reliable version, I needed IBMs OS2WEB for browsing and e-mail (and a good job it did too !) If I can "re-fix" this XPCOM problem - then I'll probably totally remove Mozilla and IBM WB. Cheers/2 Ed. Dennis Nolan wrote: > Ed > Why do you meed to run the IBM Web Browser? > > > Ed Durrant wrote: > >> Ed Durrant wrote: >> >>> I had this problem soon after I switch to Firefox & Thunderbird from >>> IBM Web Browser - now it's back again. >>> >>> If I start Firefox from its icon, it fails with an error in >>> XPCOM.DLL - however if I access firefox from a link in an email in >>> Thunderbird, the browser starts up withou any problems. >>> >>> The icon starts Firefox from it's own directory and there is no >>> reference to IBMWB, Mozilla, Firefox or Thunderbird directories in >>> either the path or libpath statements in config.sys. >>> >>> As I think both thunderbird and firefox see able to run with the >>> XPCOM.DLL loaded by Thunderbird, should I simply overwrite firefoxs >>> XPCOM.DLL with the one from thunderbird ?? >>> >>> >>> Cheers/2 >>> >>> Ed. >>> - >> >> >> >> Some more information. If I start Firefox from it's icon and >> thunderbird is NOT running it starts OK, only if I have started >> thunderbird file (and presumably it's version of xpcom.dll is in >> memory) do I get the problem. >> >> Cheers/2 >> >> Ed. > >> >> > >> >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 22:17:24 +1000 From: "Mike O'Connor" Subject: Re: Problems again with Firefox Ed Durrant wrote: > I don't (any more) but until Firefox and Thunderbird progressed to a > reliable version, I needed IBMs OS2WEB for browsing and e-mail (and a > good job it did too !) > > If I can "re-fix" this XPCOM problem - then I'll probably totally > remove Mozilla and IBM WB. > > Cheers/2 > > Dennis Nolan wrote: > >> Ed >> Why do you meed to run the IBM Web Browser? > Hi Ed, Dennis, Not using either Firefox or Thunderbird, does either of these include the functions of the IBM WB/WarpMozilla "Composer" component - i.e in-situ GUI editing of webpages/tags/anchors etc? In my case I frequently edit out unwanted sections of saved webpages, and occasionally need it to save the contents of some shtml pages that don't allow "saving" as webpage. -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [Please ZIP any attachments, other than GIF/JPG or plain-text] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 23:02:03 +1000 (AEST) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: Problems again with Firefox On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 22:17:24 +1000, Mike O'Connor wrote: Hi Mike. >Hi Ed, Dennis, > >Not using either Firefox or Thunderbird, does either of these include >the functions of the IBM WB/WarpMozilla "Composer" component - i.e >in-situ GUI editing of webpages/tags/anchors etc? >In my case I frequently edit out unwanted sections of saved webpages, >and occasionally need it to save the contents of some shtml pages that >don't allow "saving" as webpage. What you appear to be after is the NVU module http://www.nvu dot com/ and http://www.os2site dot com/sw/internet/editors/nvu-0.80-os2.zip which may look as if it is an overkill but then I don't know what else you do to web sites ... But according to Wikipedia (who trusts wikipedia? ) http://en.wikipedia dot org/wiki/NVu, it is based on the Composer from the Moz suite. Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... WARNING: This post has no nutritional value and is 100% neurotoxic. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 22:58:36 +0930 From: Leigh Bunting Subject: Re: DVD writable disks Ed Durrant wrote: > Or are you using a Hi-Fi DVD recorder ?? Hi Ed, Correct guess this time. A Pioneer DVD recorder with a 80G HDD. Hell, I only have a 10G HDD in the PC I'm now using - and that's only half full. The recorder is great for editing out all the rubbish. It will do down to the frame - and for removing all the ads. Makes watching an F1 GP worth it. Cheers, Leigh ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------