From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:02:09 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1131 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Sunday 26 June 2005 Number 1131 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: Partition corruption : Mike O'Connor" 2 Re: Partition corruption : Kris Steenhaut 3 Re: Partition corruption : Mike O'Connor" 4 Re: Partition corruption : Ian Manners" 5 where to get 12/08/04 PMMERGE.DLL? : Mike O'Connor" 6 Re: where to get 12/08/04 PMMERGE.DLL? : Ian Manners" 7 Re: where to get 12/08/04 PMMERGE.DLL? : Mike O'Connor" 8 Re: Partition corruption : Kris Steenhaut 9 Re: where to get 12/08/04 PMMERGE.DLL? : Ian Manners" 10 Re: where to get 12/08/04 PMMERGE.DLL? : Mike O'Connor" 11 [Fwd: Request for testers with USB Scanners] : Paul Smedley 12 Re: Partition corruption : Alan Duval **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 00:22:32 +1000 From: "Mike O'Connor" Subject: Re: Partition corruption Alan Duval wrote: > Hi Kris, > > I think you're right. I think there was a problem writing to the CD > and had to shut down. > Would I be advised to create 2 HPFS partitions a bit larger than 2 GB > solely for RSJ's temp files , as I believe 2 GB is the maximum size > file that can be transferred to a CD by RSJ at one time.? > My RSJ is installed in J:\CDWFS and eCS is in G: so if I create 2 new > partitions "N" & "O", how should I alter my config statement which reads: > > RUN=J:\CDWFS\CDWFSD.EXE -p "G:/TEMP" -c20000 -b2048 -t2 -i3 -s0 > > G: has 2,322,233 KB free at present. Hi Alan, Just to confirm the terminology -- are you copying to CD, as stated, or to DVD? The 2GB filesize limitation won't apply to any CD that you may be writing to whether using RSJ or anything else, only to DVDs! With your current config.sys setting of 20000 kilobytes [20MB] for the cache size, having four of these will still only account for 80MB, which is zilch on a volume with 2GB+ free. -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [Please ZIP any attachments, other than GIF/JPG or plain-text] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:27:07 +0200 From: Kris Steenhaut Subject: Re: Partition corruption Mike O'Connor schreef: > [Alan's] > Right. > Hi Kris, > > I realise that, that's why I said *physical* disk system - because RSJ > uses the *logical* file-system facilities provided by OS/2-eCS. Have to admit I don't understand. In my maybe not so good book, when a disk is filled with (a) file(s), that filling-up is a _physical_ phenomena, or to but it otherwise: when there is physically no room (free space) anymore on a disk it's logical to assume it's filled up. :-) > You have to allow freespace equivalent to 4 times the size of the > nominal cache file. > Something like that indeed. So, if you have forgotten to point the rsj cache to another partition than the boot drive, and your eCS partition has the recommended 700 MB at 1.5 Gige size, you are bound to get in trouble when you fiddle around with rsj and OCR and things like that. Especially as the temp files remain _physically_ present in their full glory after an undue rsj abort. :-)) -- Groeten uit Gent, Kris ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:42:13 +1000 From: "Mike O'Connor" Subject: Re: Partition corruption Kris Steenhaut wrote: > > > Mike O'Connor schreef: > >> Hi Kris, >> >> I realise that, that's why I said *physical* disk system - because >> RSJ uses the *logical* file-system facilities provided by OS/2-eCS. > > Have to admit I don't understand. In my maybe not so good book, when a > disk is filled with (a) file(s), that filling-up is a _physical_ > phenomena, or to but it otherwise: when there is physically no room > (free space) anymore on a disk it's logical to assume it's filled up. :-) > >> You have to allow freespace equivalent to 4 times the size of the >> nominal cache file. > > Something like that indeed. > So, if you have forgotten to point the rsj cache to another partition > than the boot drive, and your eCS partition has the recommended 700 MB > at 1.5 Gige size, you are bound to get in trouble when you fiddle > around with rsj and OCR and things like that. Especially as the temp > files remain _physically_ present in their full glory after an undue > rsj abort. :-)) Hi Kris, Filling the *data* area of the disk has no connection with the MBR or any EPBR. In Alan's case as his cache file was only 20MB on his boot partition which had 2GB free, that's no problem. It's simple to put a .cmd file in your startup folder that deletes all files in the %TEMP% & %TMP% directories and RSJ temp directory if different, at startup. -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [Please ZIP any attachments, other than GIF/JPG or plain-text] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:49:08 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: Partition corruption Hi Alan What date, time, and size is your x:\OS2\DLL\PMMERGE.DLL file ? And what version/Applied FP of eCS ? Good = 12/08/04 14:40 1269583 0 PMMERGE.DLL BAD = 29/12/04 19:33 1270499 49 PMMERGE.DLL_CP_FP5 Good = 16/07/03 18:51 1269677 0 PMMERGE_DLL.BAK The FP5 version of PMMERGE.DLL caused me a lot of grief with large JFS disks and corruptions, and also some other wierd things like being able to read/write files to and from the drive over the network but any read/write locally would freeze the computer, also had wierd things happen to RAR and CDRecord. Others have had wierd and wonderful things happen with "29/12/04 19:33 1270499 49 PMMERGE.DLL" Cheers Ian Manners http://www.os2site dot com/ "I was a vegetarian until I started leaning towards sunlight." --Rita Rudner ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 02:53:34 +1000 From: "Mike O'Connor" Subject: where to get 12/08/04 PMMERGE.DLL? Ian Manners wrote: >Hi Alan > >What date, time, and size is your x:\OS2\DLL\PMMERGE.DLL file ? >And what version/Applied FP of eCS ? > >Good = 12/08/04 14:40 1269583 0 PMMERGE.DLL >BAD = 29/12/04 19:33 1270499 49 PMMERGE.DLL_CP_FP5 >Good = 16/07/03 18:51 1269677 0 PMMERGE_DLL.BAK > >The FP5 version of PMMERGE.DLL caused me a lot of grief with >large JFS disks and corruptions, and also some other wierd things >like being able to read/write files to and from the drive over the network >but any read/write locally would freeze the computer, also had wierd things >happen to RAR and CDRecord. Others have had wierd and wonderful >things happen with >"29/12/04 19:33 1270499 49 PMMERGE.DLL" > Hi Ian, I recently used eCSMT for the very first time, and of course this system at the time was an almost virginal eCS1.00 [it's the only one I have applied eCSMT to, so far - awaiting a response or two from Chuck McKinnis] and of course FP5 was one of the items processed. My new Archive directory shows that previous edition was from 2000, and I notice that my eCS 1.13 editions are dated 2002. I just had a quick look on os2site and came up with : Search of /sw/ *Searching documents for: *pmmerge.dll /1) / OS/2 Site - Upgrades - Warp4 - Fixpack13 / Score= 1000 / | , 17234 bytes | | Summary not available | /2) / OS/2 Site - Upgrades - Patches / Score= 218 / | , 99730 bytes | | Summary not available | /3) / IBM Software Group Support News / Score= 83 / | , 58263 bytes | IBM Software Group Support News / Total of 3 matches / New search? Could you attach me a copy of that August 2004 version please? Or advise where available. p.s. I had a very smooth transition to FP5, but notice that the system seems a lot less responsive than it previously was - haven'tencountered any of the disk problems you mention, but that may be because I don't have any gargantuan volumes - nothing over 5GB here on JFS [or other]. -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [Please ZIP any attachments, other than GIF/JPG or plain-text] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 03:36:26 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: where to get 12/08/04 PMMERGE.DLL? Hi Mike Some people report no problems, others have problems, the CP-FP5 PMMERGE.DLL just doesnt like somethings, or the other way around. I'm not sure if eCSMT applies the backout for OREXX and PMMERGE, there is one available from chuck in the same directory on the ecomstation ftp site. On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 02:53:34 +1000, Mike O'Connor wrote: >Ian Manners wrote: > >>Hi Alan >> >>What date, time, and size is your x:\OS2\DLL\PMMERGE.DLL file ? >>And what version/Applied FP of eCS ? >> >>Good = 12/08/04 14:40 1269583 0 PMMERGE.DLL >>BAD = 29/12/04 19:33 1270499 49 PMMERGE.DLL_CP_FP5 >>Good = 16/07/03 18:51 1269677 0 PMMERGE_DLL.BAK >> >>The FP5 version of PMMERGE.DLL caused me a lot of grief with >>large JFS disks and corruptions, and also some other wierd things >>like being able to read/write files to and from the drive over the network >>but any read/write locally would freeze the computer, also had wierd things >>happen to RAR and CDRecord. Others have had wierd and wonderful >>things happen with >>"29/12/04 19:33 1270499 49 PMMERGE.DLL" >> >Hi Ian, > >I recently used eCSMT for the very first time, and of course this system >at the time was an almost virginal eCS1.00 [it's the only one I have >applied eCSMT to, so far - awaiting a response or two from Chuck >McKinnis] and of course FP5 was one of the items processed. My new >Archive directory shows that previous edition was from 2000, and I >notice that my eCS 1.13 editions are dated 2002. I just had a quick look >on os2site and came up with : > > > Search of /sw/ > > *Searching documents for: *pmmerge.dll > >/1) / OS/2 Site - Upgrades - Warp4 - Fixpack13 > / Score= >1000 / | , 17234 bytes | > | Summary not available | >/2) / OS/2 Site - Upgrades - Patches > / Score= 218 / | >, 99730 bytes | > | Summary not available | >/3) / IBM Software Group Support News > / Score= 83 / | , >58263 bytes | > IBM Software Group Support News > > >/ Total of 3 matches / > > New search? > >Could you attach me a copy of that August 2004 version please? Or advise >where available. > >p.s. I had a very smooth transition to FP5, but notice that the system >seems a lot less responsive than it previously was - haven'tencountered >any of the disk problems you mention, but that may be because I don't >have any gargantuan volumes - nothing over 5GB here on JFS [or other]. > >-- >Regards, >Mike > >Failed the exam for >-------------------- >MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert >-------------------- >[Please ZIP any attachments, other than GIF/JPG or plain-text] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 04:45:36 +1000 From: "Mike O'Connor" Subject: Re: where to get 12/08/04 PMMERGE.DLL? Ian Manners wrote: >Hi Mike > >Some people report no problems, others have problems, the >CP-FP5 PMMERGE.DLL just doesnt like somethings, or the >other way around. I'm not sure if eCSMT applies the backout >for OREXX and PMMERGE, there is one available from chuck >in the same directory on the ecomstation ftp site. > >On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 02:53:34 +1000, Mike O'Connor wrote: > >>Ian Manners wrote: >> >>>Hi Alan >>> >>>What date, time, and size is your x:\OS2\DLL\PMMERGE.DLL file ? >>>And what version/Applied FP of eCS ? >>> >>>Good = 12/08/04 14:40 1269583 0 PMMERGE.DLL >>>BAD = 29/12/04 19:33 1270499 49 PMMERGE.DLL_CP_FP5 >>>Good = 16/07/03 18:51 1269677 0 PMMERGE_DLL.BAK >>> >>>The FP5 version of PMMERGE.DLL caused me a lot of grief with >>>large JFS disks and corruptions, and also some other wierd things >>>like being able to read/write files to and from the drive over the network but any read/write locally would freeze the computer, also had wierd things happen to RAR and CDRecord. Others have had wierd and wonderful things happen with >>>"29/12/04 19:33 1270499 49 PMMERGE.DLL" >>> >>Hi Ian, >> >>I recently used eCSMT for the very first time, and of course this system >>at the time was an almost virginal eCS1.00 [it's the only one I have >>applied eCSMT to, so far - awaiting a response or two from Chuck >>McKinnis] and of course FP5 was one of the items processed. My new >>Archive directory shows that previous edition was from 2000, and I >>notice that my eCS 1.13 editions are dated 2002. I just had a quick look >>on os2site and came up with: >> >> (nil) >>Could you attach me a copy of that August 2004 version please? Or advise >>where available. >> >>p.s. I had a very smooth transition to FP5, but notice that the system >>seems a lot less responsive than it previously was - haven'tencountered >>any of the disk problems you mention, but that may be because I don't >>have any gargantuan volumes - nothing over 5GB here on JFS [or other]. >> >> Hi Ian, Thanks for the information. Was watching the Tennis for a while there! I do remember a note that SNAP might need to be re-installed after applying FP5 - I did so after allowing the FP5 to overwrite current files, and that improved things significantly. Actually with eCSMT, was surprised that there was nothing in place to update the original eCS 1.0 eCS-Clock [the horrible L.E.D. version that never worked properly on my system] to the eCS 1.1 version that works fine, after applying the 19/07/2003 fix the author sent me to correct the time drift that occurs in zones that don't observe DST. Found out that I could just copy the eCS 1.1 eclock-tree [from x:\ecs\system\eclock] to a new eCS 1.0 y:\os2\eclock\ tree and copy the clkdll.dll from x:\ecs\dll to y:\os2\dll, then make desktop objects for the World Clock and the Task Planner. -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [Please ZIP any attachments, other than GIF/JPG or plain-text] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 03:23:34 +0200 From: Kris Steenhaut Subject: Re: Partition corruption Alan Duval schreef: > > > I think you're right. I think there was a problem writing to the CD > and had to shut down. > Would I be advised to create 2 HPFS partitions a bit larger than 2 GB > solely for RSJ's temp files , as I believe 2 GB is the maximum size > file that can be transferred to a CD by RSJ at one time.? Good heavens! Are you guys so short on diskspace or what? In order to have never problems of that kind, just point to a VERY LARGE partition would say (Pointed here to a 72 Gig jfs-partition with 40 gig free). > My RSJ is installed in J:\CDWFS and eCS is in G: so if I create 2 new > partitions "N" & "O", how should I alter my config statement which reads: > Why do you desperately want to create new partitons just to host temporary files? > RUN=J:\CDWFS\CDWFSD.EXE -p "G:/TEMP" -c20000 -b2048 -t2 -i3 -s0 > > G: has 2,322,233 KB free at present. > No wonder you had problems, as I'm pretty sure your swappath was/is pointed to that same partition too. Anyway, to point your jfs temp files to your boot partition must be avoided at all costs. For the very reasons you now are aware of I'm sure. -- Groeten uit Gent, Kris ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:46:16 +1000 (EST) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: where to get 12/08/04 PMMERGE.DLL? For those looking for it >Could you attach me a copy of that August 2004 version please? Or advise >where available. http://os2site dot com/sw/upgrades/cp/fp5_up.zip And for the "12/08/04 14:40 1269583 0 PMMERGE.DLL" you can find it at http://os2site dot com/sw/upgrades/cp/pmr03821.zip This is a testcase PMMERGE so your milage may, or may not vary. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:58:33 +1000 From: "Mike O'Connor" Subject: Re: where to get 12/08/04 PMMERGE.DLL? Ian Manners wrote: >"12/08/04 14:40 1269583 0 PMMERGE.DLL" >you can find it at > >http://os2site dot com/sw/upgrades/cp/pmr03821.zip > >This is a testcase PMMERGE so your milage may, or may not vary. > > Hi Ian, Thanks for that! -- Regards, Mike Failed the exam for -------------------- MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert -------------------- [Please ZIP any attachments, other than GIF/JPG or plain-text] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:54:35 +0930 From: Paul Smedley Subject: [Fwd: Request for testers with USB Scanners] For anyone that doesn't get the Voice News List.... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Request for testers with USB Scanners Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:16:36 +0930 From: Paul Smedley To: submit at os2voice dot org, Steve Wendt , martin at os2world dot com Hi All, I've started work to make Sane work with USB Scanners on OS/2 using the usbcalls package by Markus Montkowski available from Netlabs. As a precursor, I've compiled sane-find-scanner.exe which correctly identified the scanner on my machine. I'd appreciate it if testers with a USB scanner would download http://smedley.info/sane-find-scanner.zip and send me the report from running: sane-find-scanner -v Note that this may require a newer version of usbresmg.sys than eCS 1.2 ships with. I had system traps with gPhoto2. If traps in os2krnl are experienced with this build, please update usbresmg.sys using the package at http://smedley.info/usbresmg.zip Thanks in advance for any feedback. NOTE: this will not scan - all it will do is detect (hopefully!) a USB scanner attached to your PC. Cheers, Paul. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:51:16 +0100 From: Alan Duval Subject: Re: Partition corruption Ian Manners wrote: >Hi Alan > >What date, time, and size is your x:\OS2\DLL\PMMERGE.DLL file ? >And what version/Applied FP of eCS ? > >Good = 12/08/04 14:40 1269583 0 PMMERGE.DLL >BAD = 29/12/04 19:33 1270499 49 PMMERGE.DLL_CP_FP5 >Good = 16/07/03 18:51 1269677 0 PMMERGE_DLL.BAK > >The FP5 version of PMMERGE.DLL caused me a lot of grief with >large JFS disks and corruptions, and also some other wierd things >like being able to read/write files to and from the drive over the network >but any read/write locally would freeze the computer, also had wierd things >happen to RAR and CDRecord. Others have had wierd and wonderful >things happen with >"29/12/04 19:33 1270499 49 PMMERGE.DLL" > >Cheers >Ian Manners >http://www.os2site dot com/ > >"I was a vegetarian until I started leaning towards sunlight." --Rita Rudner > > > > > > Hi Ian, I have eCS 1.1 installed. I applied eCSMT some months ago to bring it up to 1.2 level so I am not sure what level it is at. Running 'ver' says the version is 4.5. Re: PMMERGE.dll Creation date 1/12/04 Time: 10:39:56 Size: 1,269,677 bytes I have reinstalled eCS from an image since my recent troubles and hence the time problems with my Emails. I don't think the time statement in config.sys was altered in this image and I have lost the alteration I should make to correct matters. Could you advise what it should be. Incidently, tonight Mozilla mail froze when I tried to start it so I had to reboot and again the system wouldn't boot and HD 1 couldn't be seen. Nor could I boot my floppy version of DFSee. I disconnected everything and set up the PC on a table where I could check it and it booted correctly. I then tried the previous Primary disk but it wasn't recognized so the partition tables are definitely corrupted. Why is this problem recurring? Till recently it's been a reliable system. Regards, Alan Duval ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------