From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 00:02:09 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1148 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Monday 18 July 2005 Number 1148 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: DAC960 Setup : Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" 2 Re: DAC960 Setup : Ed Durrant 3 Re: DAC960 Setup : rdagen at videotron.ca 4 Re: DAC960 Setup : Ed Durrant 5 Re: DAC960 Setup : Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" 6 Re: DAC960 Setup : Ed Durrant 7 Re: DAC960 Setup : Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" 8 Re: DAC960 Setup : Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" 9 Re: DAC960 Setup : Ed Durrant 10 Re: DAC960 Setup : Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" 11 [Fwd: IBM reads the last rites over OS/2] : Terry 12 Re: [Fwd: IBM reads the last rites over OS/2] : Kris Steenhaut 13 Re: [Fwd: IBM reads the last rites over OS/2] : madodel at ptdprolog dot net **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:53:58 +1000 (EST) From: "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" Subject: Re: DAC960 Setup On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:28:52 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote: >Hi Chris, > >I'm a little confused. I believe DAC960's are the chips used on certain >Raid cards. Mylex, IBM, HP, Compaq etc. > >I would expect the simplest way to configure the arrays you require >would be with a bootable support diskette, which one will depend upon >who has made these cards. I have two Mylex DAC960PD's. From what I can tell they are running the latest firmware/bios available but I don't have the setup disks etc. Hence my problem. I have the serveraids all working fine. I just cann't do the same for the 960. -Chris >I'd also suggest you look for the latest firmware available for the >cards and then also the drivers OF THE SAME VERSION to work with this >firmware. Old IBM Serveraid cards were very sensitive to mismatch of >versions between card firmware and driver levl, leading in some cases to >loss of data from the array. > >Once configured using the diskette, you'll need to manage the array >using the appropriate, OS specific Raid management program. In the case >of IBM ServeRaid, it's ServeRaid manager and the latest version is Java >based to run cross-platform. You can use a later version of the manager >code, it's just the OS driver and card firmware that have to be in sync. > >Some early ServeRaid cards also had a "mini-config" program built into >their bios that you could enter by pressing CTRL+I when the cards bios >was loading. Some models allowed the deletion and creation of arrays in >this Mini-config program, other versions of the card only allowed you to >view the existing configuration. > >Cheers/2 > >Ed. > > >Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote: > >>Hi All, >> I've just picked up two DAC960's from eBay in addition to the >>ServeRAID's that I've got. >> >> The problem is that the IBM support site is very good and has >>current documents on how to set up and manage your raid array. >> >> The problem with the DAC that I can not find anything on how to >>build the array. >> >> The latest software that I can get from mylex (now LSI) is >>swkit108.exe, which has the same 1998 driver in it and a program called >>dacadm.exe. >> >> >> >> >> > > -Chris WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2. Voice: +61-3-9307-0344 Internet: chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au FAX: +61-3-9307-0633 Web Page: http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 212, Brunswick, VIC 3056, AUSTRALIA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:50:26 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: DAC960 Setup Who makes the DAC960 cards ? Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote: >On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:28:52 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote: > > > >>Hi Chris, >> >>I'm a little confused. I believe DAC960's are the chips used on certain >>Raid cards. Mylex, IBM, HP, Compaq etc. >> >>I would expect the simplest way to configure the arrays you require >>would be with a bootable support diskette, which one will depend upon >>who has made these cards. >> >> > >I have two Mylex DAC960PD's. From what I can tell they are running the >latest firmware/bios available but I don't have the setup disks etc. Hence >my problem. > >I have the serveraids all working fine. I just cann't do the same for the >960. > >-Chris > > > >>I'd also suggest you look for the latest firmware available for the >>cards and then also the drivers OF THE SAME VERSION to work with this >>firmware. Old IBM Serveraid cards were very sensitive to mismatch of >>versions between card firmware and driver levl, leading in some cases to >>loss of data from the array. >> >>Once configured using the diskette, you'll need to manage the array >>using the appropriate, OS specific Raid management program. In the case >>of IBM ServeRaid, it's ServeRaid manager and the latest version is Java >>based to run cross-platform. You can use a later version of the manager >>code, it's just the OS driver and card firmware that have to be in sync. >> >>Some early ServeRaid cards also had a "mini-config" program built into >>their bios that you could enter by pressing CTRL+I when the cards bios >>was loading. Some models allowed the deletion and creation of arrays in >>this Mini-config program, other versions of the card only allowed you to >>view the existing configuration. >> >>Cheers/2 >> >>Ed. >> >> >>Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hi All, >>> I've just picked up two DAC960's from eBay in addition to the >>>ServeRAID's that I've got. >>> >>> The problem is that the IBM support site is very good and has >>>current documents on how to set up and manage your raid array. >>> >>> The problem with the DAC that I can not find anything on how to >>>build the array. >>> >>> The latest software that I can get from mylex (now LSI) is >>>swkit108.exe, which has the same 1998 driver in it and a program called >>>dacadm.exe. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > >-Chris > >WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2. >Voice: +61-3-9307-0344 Internet: chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au >FAX: +61-3-9307-0633 Web Page: http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au >Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 212, Brunswick, VIC 3056, AUSTRALIA > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:09:23 -0400 From: rdagen at videotron.ca Subject: Re: DAC960 Setup Mylex made these cards for some IBM servers (3xx series and 7xx series): I have a 310 model and a 710 server with these cards Ray Dagenais Montreal ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Durrant Date: Sunday, July 17, 2005 5:50 pm Subject: Re: DAC960 Setup > Who makes the DAC960 cards ? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:50:08 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: DAC960 Setup OK, we need to be careful here. the original ServeRAID cards (v1 & v2) used Mylex cards with IBM modified Bios on them. They needed a different driver than, for example, Windoze NT autosensed. NT would install the Mylex driver and about 2 hours after one finished the install, the system would blue screen ! So we still need to know who actually made the cards that Chris has - Mylex, IBM or someone else. I know the PC Server 310, that was a PC 350 desktop with an Adaptec card, SCSI disk and updated bios - the bottom of the range at the time (but a very good system never the less). The PCS 710 - I think that's one of the HUGE systems using an Intel Motherboard isn't it - the one that preceeded the PC Server 7000, which was IBMs revised model that could be rack mounted - the Intel based models (whether from IBm or HP) were 20" wide and hence would not fit in a standard rack ! Cheers/2 Ed.. rdagen at videotron.ca wrote: >Mylex made these cards for some IBM servers (3xx series and 7xx series): I have a 310 model and a 710 server with these cards > >Ray Dagenais >Montreal > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Ed Durrant >Date: Sunday, July 17, 2005 5:50 pm >Subject: Re: DAC960 Setup > > > >>Who makes the DAC960 cards ? >> >> >> >> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:46:40 +1000 (EST) From: "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" Subject: Re: DAC960 Setup On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:50:26 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote: >Who makes the DAC960 cards ? Mylex. Now defunct or owned by LSILogic. Enter www.mylex dot com and you'll see what I mean. -Chris >Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote: > >>On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:28:52 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hi Chris, >>> >>>I'm a little confused. I believe DAC960's are the chips used on certain >>>Raid cards. Mylex, IBM, HP, Compaq etc. >>> >>>I would expect the simplest way to configure the arrays you require >>>would be with a bootable support diskette, which one will depend upon >>>who has made these cards. >>> >>> >> >>I have two Mylex DAC960PD's. From what I can tell they are running the >>latest firmware/bios available but I don't have the setup disks etc. Hence >>my problem. >> >>I have the serveraids all working fine. I just cann't do the same for the >>960. >> >>-Chris >> >> >> >>>I'd also suggest you look for the latest firmware available for the >>>cards and then also the drivers OF THE SAME VERSION to work with this >>>firmware. Old IBM Serveraid cards were very sensitive to mismatch of >>>versions between card firmware and driver levl, leading in some cases to >>>loss of data from the array. >>> >>>Once configured using the diskette, you'll need to manage the array >>>using the appropriate, OS specific Raid management program. In the case >>>of IBM ServeRaid, it's ServeRaid manager and the latest version is Java >>>based to run cross-platform. You can use a later version of the manager >>>code, it's just the OS driver and card firmware that have to be in sync. >>> >>>Some early ServeRaid cards also had a "mini-config" program built into >>>their bios that you could enter by pressing CTRL+I when the cards bios >>>was loading. Some models allowed the deletion and creation of arrays in >>>this Mini-config program, other versions of the card only allowed you to >>>view the existing configuration. >>> >>>Cheers/2 >>> >>>Ed. >>> >>> >>>Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hi All, >>>> I've just picked up two DAC960's from eBay in addition to the >>>>ServeRAID's that I've got. >>>> >>>> The problem is that the IBM support site is very good and has >>>>current documents on how to set up and manage your raid array. >>>> >>>> The problem with the DAC that I can not find anything on how to >>>>build the array. >>>> >>>> The latest software that I can get from mylex (now LSI) is >>>>swkit108.exe, which has the same 1998 driver in it and a program called >>>>dacadm.exe. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>-Chris >> >>WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2. >>Voice: +61-3-9307-0344 Internet: chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au >>FAX: +61-3-9307-0633 Web Page: http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au >>Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 212, Brunswick, VIC 3056, AUSTRALIA >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -Chris WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2. Voice: +61-3-9307-0344 Internet: chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au FAX: +61-3-9307-0633 Web Page: http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 212, Brunswick, VIC 3056, AUSTRALIA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:20:42 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: DAC960 Setup Ok, in that case I think you need DAC_CFG from http://www.lsilogic dot com/downloads/license.do?id=2000&did=4669&pid=4565 Cheers/2 Ed. Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote: >On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:50:26 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote: > > > >>Who makes the DAC960 cards ? >> >> > >Mylex. > >Now defunct or owned by LSILogic. > >Enter www.mylex dot com and you'll see what I mean. > >-Chris > > > >>Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote: >> >> >> >>>On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:28:52 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hi Chris, >>>> >>>>I'm a little confused. I believe DAC960's are the chips used on certain >>>>Raid cards. Mylex, IBM, HP, Compaq etc. >>>> >>>>I would expect the simplest way to configure the arrays you require >>>>would be with a bootable support diskette, which one will depend upon >>>>who has made these cards. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>I have two Mylex DAC960PD's. From what I can tell they are running the >>>latest firmware/bios available but I don't have the setup disks etc. Hence >>>my problem. >>> >>>I have the serveraids all working fine. I just cann't do the same for the >>>960. >>> >>>-Chris >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I'd also suggest you look for the latest firmware available for the >>>>cards and then also the drivers OF THE SAME VERSION to work with this >>>>firmware. Old IBM Serveraid cards were very sensitive to mismatch of >>>>versions between card firmware and driver levl, leading in some cases to >>>>loss of data from the array. >>>> >>>>Once configured using the diskette, you'll need to manage the array >>>>using the appropriate, OS specific Raid management program. In the case >>>>of IBM ServeRaid, it's ServeRaid manager and the latest version is Java >>>>based to run cross-platform. You can use a later version of the manager >>>>code, it's just the OS driver and card firmware that have to be in sync. >>>> >>>>Some early ServeRaid cards also had a "mini-config" program built into >>>>their bios that you could enter by pressing CTRL+I when the cards bios >>>>was loading. Some models allowed the deletion and creation of arrays in >>>>this Mini-config program, other versions of the card only allowed you to >>>>view the existing configuration. >>>> >>>>Cheers/2 >>>> >>>>Ed. >>>> >>>> >>>>Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi All, >>>>> I've just picked up two DAC960's from eBay in addition to the >>>>>ServeRAID's that I've got. >>>>> >>>>> The problem is that the IBM support site is very good and has >>>>>current documents on how to set up and manage your raid array. >>>>> >>>>> The problem with the DAC that I can not find anything on how to >>>>>build the array. >>>>> >>>>> The latest software that I can get from mylex (now LSI) is >>>>>swkit108.exe, which has the same 1998 driver in it and a program called >>>>>dacadm.exe. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>-Chris >>> >>>WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2. >>>Voice: +61-3-9307-0344 Internet: chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au >>>FAX: +61-3-9307-0633 Web Page: http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au >>>Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 212, Brunswick, VIC 3056, AUSTRALIA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > >-Chris > >WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2. >Voice: +61-3-9307-0344 Internet: chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au >FAX: +61-3-9307-0633 Web Page: http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au >Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 212, Brunswick, VIC 3056, AUSTRALIA > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:27:07 +1000 (EST) From: "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" Subject: Re: DAC960 Setup On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:50:08 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote: >OK, we need to be careful here. the original ServeRAID cards (v1 & v2) Now we don't, you just need to read what I said. I have a Mylex DAC960 Raid card. Period. This has an Intel i960 RISC processor on it, hence the 960 in it's name. It uses Symbios Logic 53C720 SCSI controller chips on it. This is not to be confused with the IBM ServeRAID cards that I have that use an embedded PowerPC 403 on it. It uses Adaptec 7880 SCSI controller chips on it. I can and have sucessfully set up and configured and continue to run arrays off of the IBM ServeRaid Cards. I am unable to do the same for the Mylex cards and are seeking help in doing so. NT or DOS was my next step it playing. -Chris >used Mylex cards with IBM modified Bios on them. They needed a different >driver than, for example, Windoze NT autosensed. NT would install the >Mylex driver and about 2 hours after one finished the install, the >system would blue screen ! > >So we still need to know who actually made the cards that Chris has - >Mylex, IBM or someone else. > >I know the PC Server 310, that was a PC 350 desktop with an Adaptec >card, SCSI disk and updated bios - the bottom of the range at the time >(but a very good system never the less). The PCS 710 - I think that's >one of the HUGE systems using an Intel Motherboard isn't it - the one That would be the PC Server 704. Yes it it huge and very heavy. I have two. The enclosure of 12 SCA SCSI disks is unbeatable. :-) I have the first ServeRAID in the 704. >that preceeded the PC Server 7000, which was IBMs revised model that >could be rack mounted - the Intel based models (whether from IBm or HP) >were 20" wide and hence would not fit in a standard rack ! The 704 I have does (just). -Chris WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2. Voice: +61-3-9307-0344 Internet: chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au FAX: +61-3-9307-0633 Web Page: http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 212, Brunswick, VIC 3056, AUSTRALIA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:29:43 +1000 (EST) From: "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" Subject: Re: DAC960 Setup On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:20:42 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote: >Ok, in that case I think you need DAC_CFG from >http://www.lsilogic dot com/downloads/license.do?id=2000&did=4669&pid=4565 Ta. But forgive the stupid question, but what do I do with these: Archive: D:/DAC960/dac_cfg.exe Length Method Size Ratio Date Time CRC-32 Name ("^" ==> case ------ ------ ---- ----- ---- ---- ------ ---- conversion) 10841 Implode 1768 84% 12-02-93 17:10 9d01073f ^!mlx0070.cfg 8667 Implode 1698 80% 12-02-93 17:12 36be8ae6 ^!mlx0071.cfg 8591 Implode 1647 81% 12-02-93 17:11 931e1e28 ^!mlx0072.cfg 7530 Implode 1638 78% 11-04-93 11:31 bf0b199c ^!mlx0073.cfg 6447 Implode 1600 75% 11-04-93 11:32 b5ac9493 ^!mlx0074.cfg 8805 Implode 1612 82% 05-02-94 10:50 8e2d292a ^!mlx0075.cfg 7690 Implode 1568 80% 05-02-94 10:50 4193ca24 ^!mlx0076.cfg 6592 Implode 1531 77% 05-02-94 10:49 d0fcae97 ^!mlx0077.cfg ------ ------ --- ------- 65163 13062 80% 8 -Chris WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2. Voice: +61-3-9307-0344 Internet: chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au FAX: +61-3-9307-0633 Web Page: http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 212, Brunswick, VIC 3056, AUSTRALIA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:08:40 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: DAC960 Setup It's not a stupid question - it's the wrong thing. What you need is the configuration program for the card. This is often a dos bootable diskette - which I thought this was. This appears to be a collect of configuration files. OK, As I said the very early IBM ServeRAID cards were modified Mylex cards, the later ServeRAID 3 (for example) started to use the PowerPC chips. I seem to think in the case of the IBM ServeRAID 2 card there is some text displayed at startup indicating that you can press a combination of keys to go into a mini-config (bios based) configuration program. Does your Mylex card display such a prompt and when you do it, does it take you into a configuration program ? These cards were definately intended for use under OS/2 so it must be possible to configure them without going to Windows NT. A Dos configuration utility is quite likley however. You might want to download the latest firmware and drivers first - go to http://www.lsilogic dot com/downloads/selectDownload.do and select your particular DAC960 card from the list - there's 16 possibilities. I meant to ask before, what Interface bus do these cards have ? MCA ? EISA ? If it's MCA you'll need the relevant MCA configuration file as well of course. Cheers/2 Ed. Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote: >On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:20:42 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote: > > > >>Ok, in that case I think you need DAC_CFG from >>http://www.lsilogic dot com/downloads/license.do?id=2000&did=4669&pid=4565 >> >> > >Ta. But forgive the stupid question, but what do I do with these: > >Archive: D:/DAC960/dac_cfg.exe > Length Method Size Ratio Date Time CRC-32 Name ("^" ==> >case > ------ ------ ---- ----- ---- ---- ------ ---- >conversion) > 10841 Implode 1768 84% 12-02-93 17:10 9d01073f ^!mlx0070.cfg > 8667 Implode 1698 80% 12-02-93 17:12 36be8ae6 ^!mlx0071.cfg > 8591 Implode 1647 81% 12-02-93 17:11 931e1e28 ^!mlx0072.cfg > 7530 Implode 1638 78% 11-04-93 11:31 bf0b199c ^!mlx0073.cfg > 6447 Implode 1600 75% 11-04-93 11:32 b5ac9493 ^!mlx0074.cfg > 8805 Implode 1612 82% 05-02-94 10:50 8e2d292a ^!mlx0075.cfg > 7690 Implode 1568 80% 05-02-94 10:50 4193ca24 ^!mlx0076.cfg > 6592 Implode 1531 77% 05-02-94 10:49 d0fcae97 ^!mlx0077.cfg > ------ ------ --- ------- > 65163 13062 80% 8 > > > > >-Chris > >WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2. >Voice: +61-3-9307-0344 Internet: chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au >FAX: +61-3-9307-0633 Web Page: http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au >Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 212, Brunswick, VIC 3056, AUSTRALIA > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:11:13 +1000 (EST) From: "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" Subject: Re: DAC960 Setup On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:08:40 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote: >It's not a stupid question - it's the wrong thing. > >What you need is the configuration program for the card. This is often a >dos bootable diskette - which I thought this was. This appears to be a >collect of configuration files. > >OK, As I said the very early IBM ServeRAID cards were modified Mylex >cards, the later ServeRAID 3 (for example) started to use the PowerPC >chips. I seem to think in the case of the IBM ServeRAID 2 card there is >some text displayed at startup indicating that you can press a >combination of keys to go into a mini-config (bios based) configuration >program. My original ServeRAID has a PPC 403 on it. >Does your Mylex card display such a prompt and when you do it, does it >take you into a configuration program ? Yes, but no options to allow drive configuration. The serveRaid cards (even the old ones) are much more advanced and the IBM site still has all of the relevant support information on it and thus is far more useful to me. The ServeRAID V3.50 stuff was a bootable dos disk. The V4.50 was a bootable CD with Win95 on it. V7.00 is a bootable CD with linux on it. >These cards were definately intended for use under OS/2 so it must be >possible to configure them without going to Windows NT. A Dos >configuration utility is quite likley however. > >You might want to download the latest firmware and drivers first - go to > >http://www.lsilogic dot com/downloads/selectDownload.do > >and select your particular DAC960 card from the list - there's 16 >possibilities. You actually have to look at the card to find out what it is as it is not displayed anywhere at startup. >I meant to ask before, what Interface bus do these cards have ? MCA ? >EISA ? If it's MCA you'll need the relevant MCA configuration file as >well of course. PCI. -Chris WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2. Voice: +61-3-9307-0344 Internet: chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au FAX: +61-3-9307-0633 Web Page: http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 212, Brunswick, VIC 3056, AUSTRALIA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:46:35 +1000 From: Terry Subject: [Fwd: IBM reads the last rites over OS/2] Hi All I wonder how many times the media are going to report this one with out mentioning about ECS !!!! IBM reads the last rites over OS/2 11:03AM IBM has read the rites to OS/2, the operating system it co-wrote with Microsoft at the height of its dominance of the PC market in the 1980's. Although Big Blue has not put any serious development into the operating system since the early 1990s, the company has now issued a road map that signals the final withdrawal of support. It has announced that it will discontinue selling the operating system by 23 December of this year. Support for the operating system will cease in December 2006 although support will be available to those who want it under contract. http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/74962/ibm-reads-the-last-rites-over-os2.html Terry -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.0/50 - Release Date: 7/16/2005 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:16:51 +0200 From: Kris Steenhaut Subject: Re: [Fwd: IBM reads the last rites over OS/2] Terry schreef: > Hi All > > I wonder how many times the media are going to report this one with > out mentioning about ECS !!!! > We can't blame the media actually. I put directly this (obvious) question to SS big boss Bob St-John: "While ditching OS/2 Big Blue advises to move to Linux. Why the hell don't they give eCS at least as another option?" As his answer isn't enjoyable, don't enjoy: "The aim is to move off OS/2. eCS still is OS/2, that's why IBM doesn't mention eCS as an alternative for the move". And Serenity did nothing at all to anticipate, reply-to or comment on Big Blue latest strike. So, if the ones involved and having interest in are keeping a deafening silence, we can't blame the media. > IBM reads the last rites over OS/2 11:03AM > IBM has read the rites to OS/2, the operating system it co-wrote with > Microsoft at the height of its dominance of the PC market in the > 1980's. Although Big Blue has not put any serious development into the > operating system since the early 1990s, the company has now issued a > road map that signals the final withdrawal of support. > > It has announced that it will discontinue selling the operating system > by 23 December of this year. Support for the operating system will > cease in December 2006 although support will be available to those who > want it under contract. > > > > http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/74962/ibm-reads-the-last-rites-over-os2.html > > > Terry > > > > -- Groeten uit Gent, Kris ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:54:57 -0300 From: madodel at ptdprolog dot net Subject: Re: [Fwd: IBM reads the last rites over OS/2] In <42DB9DB3.606 at hccnet.nl>, on 07/18/05 at 02:16 PM, Kris Steenhaut said: >Terry schreef: >> Hi All >> >> I wonder how many times the media are going to report this one with >> out mentioning about ECS !!!! >> >We can't blame the media actually. >I put directly this (obvious) question to SS big boss Bob St-John: >"While ditching OS/2 Big Blue advises to move to Linux. Why the hell >don't they give eCS at least as another option?" >As his answer isn't enjoyable, don't enjoy: >"The aim is to move off OS/2. eCS still is OS/2, that's why IBM doesn't >mention eCS as an alternative for the move". >And Serenity did nothing at all to anticipate, reply-to or comment on >Big Blue latest strike. http://www.ecomstation dot com/news.phtml?action=fullnews&id=1074&title=eComStation%20in%202006%20and%20Beyond " eComStation in 2006 and Beyond July 15, 2005 by admin eComStation product plan calls for sales of eComStation through mid-2007. Even then, there are no plans to terminate the product. That is simply the time frame of the current product plan. On July 12, IBM announced withdrawal of active marketing and end of support for OS/2, see http://www-306.ibm dot com/software/os/warp/announcements.html IBM had previously endicated end of service for OS/2 Warp 4 is December 31, 2006, and the withdrawal from active marketing as of December 23, 2005, indicating IBM will not sell OS/2 Warp 4 after this year. This announcement covers the IBM plans for the IBM distribution of the OS/2 products. The announcement does not impact OEMs who may use OS/2 and other IBM products as part of their product solution. "eComStation will remain available as long as it is a good business. There is no end in sight". - Bob St.John, Director of Business Development,Serenity Systems International" Mark -- From the eComStation Desktop of: Mark Dodel Warpstock 2005, Hershey, Pennsylvania, October 6 - 9, 2005 http://www.warpstock dot org Warpstock Europe 2005, Dresden, Germany, Nov. 18-20 http://www.warpstock dot net For a choice in the future of personal computing, Join VOICE - http://www.os2voice dot org "The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That in it's essence, is Fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group or by any controlling private power." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Message proposing the Monopoly Investigation, 1938 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------