From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 00:03:28 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1235 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Sunday 08 January 2006 Number 1235 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 LAN Server Ultimedia : Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" 1 Zip : Michael/Gail Peters" 2 Re: Zip : Peter Moylan 2 Re: Zip : Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" 3 Re: Zip : Ed Durrant 3 Re: LAN Server Ultimedia : Ed Durrant 4 Re: LAN Server Ultimedia : Chuck McKinnis 4 Re: LAN Server Ultimedia : Wayne 5 Re: LAN Server Ultimedia : Voytek Eymont" 5 Disk Imaging : Alan Duval 6 Re: Disk Imaging : Voytek Eymont" 6 Re: Disk Imaging : Ed Durrant 7 Re: Disk Imaging : Ed Durrant 7 Re: Disk Imaging : Robert Traynor (BobT)" 8 Re: Zip : Robert Traynor (BobT)" 8 Re: Zip : Ed Durrant 9 Re: Disk Imaging : Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 09:24:34 +1100 (EDT) From: "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" Subject: LAN Server Ultimedia Can anyone please tell me what this is and what it does? TIA, -Chris WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2. Voice: +61-3-9395-1504 Internet: chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au FAX: +61-3-9395-7633 Web Page: http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 4293, Hoppers Crossing DC, VIC 3029, AUSTRALIA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 11:44:20 +1100 From: "Michael/Gail Peters" Subject: Zip What flavour of zip should we be currently using with OS/2/eCS ? Happy New Year to all you happy frapprs. Mike Peters [attachments have been removed] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:36 +1100 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: Zip Michael/Gail Peters wrote: > What flavour of zip should we be currently using with OS/2/eCS ? I'm still happily using the InfoZip version: zip 2.3 and unzip 5.50. I have a feeling that newer versions have been released, but as far as I recall the change logs for those newer versions didn't address anything that would be relevant to an OS/2 user, so there's been no point in upgrading. Using Association Editor, I've set it up such that unzip is the default double-click action, since that's the thing I most commonly want to do to a zip file. When I want to look inside a zip file before unzipping, or make minor modifications to something I've just zipped, I use KAZip. I've tried a variety of other GUI zip utilities, and I still have Archive Viewer installed (although I never use it except by accident), but I haven't been satisfied with any of them. KAZip might be old and unsupported, but it works better than anything else I've seen. By the way, we OS/2/eCS users are lucky in this respect compared with Windows users. Whenever I've had to zip anything on Windows, using a variety of programs that have been recommended as "the best available", it's been a nightmare. Plenty of eye candy, but the programmers don't seem to bother about functionality. -- Peter Moylan peter at ozebelg dot org peter.moylan at optusnet dot com dot au http://www.pmoylan dot org Please note the changed e-mail and web addresses. The domain eepjm.newcastle.edu.au no longer exists. My e-mail addresses at newcastle.edu.au will probably remain "live" for a while, but then they will disappear without warning. The optusnet address still has about 6 months of life left. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 14:03:22 +1100 (EDT) From: "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" Subject: Re: Zip >it's been a nightmare. Plenty of eye candy, but the programmers don't >seem to bother about functionality. That's alright, neither do the users. Just so long as it looks good. -Chris WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2. Voice: +61-3-9395-1504 Internet: chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au FAX: +61-3-9395-7633 Web Page: http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 4293, Hoppers Crossing DC, VIC 3029, AUSTRALIA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 14:42:50 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Zip Michael/Gail Peters wrote: > What flavour of zip should we be currently using with > OS/2/eCS ? > > Happy New Year to all you happy frapprs. > > Mike Peters > [attachments have been removed] > > =========================================== No one can say which version you "should" be using but as far as I can see, these are the latest versions: PKZIP v 2.5 ZIP (used by most os/2 zip frontends or from the command line) V 2.31 (this came out about 2 months ago). what I find strange is the the previous version was V 5.41 !! UNZIP v 5.5 Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 14:49:16 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: LAN Server Ultimedia Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote: > Can anyone please tell me what this is and what it does? > > TIA, > > -Chris > > Hi Chris, If I'm not mistaken, Ultimedia/2 was introduced as a product back in the OS/2 1.3 days as a method of transferring multimedia content across the LAN (Netbios) at a higher priority than other data. So Video Streaming, Audio Streaming etc. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 21:36:36 -0700 From: Chuck McKinnis Subject: Re: LAN Server Ultimedia You might want to take a look at: http://www-306.ibm dot com/software/data/umm/features.html -- Chuck McKinnis Covenant Solutions http://www.7cities dot net/~mckinnis/os2/ 505-286-3191 i souport publik edekashun. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:53:14 -09:3 From: Wayne Subject: Re: LAN Server Ultimedia ** Reply to note from Ed Durrant Sun, 08 Jan 2006 14:49:16 +1100 > If you have a look at the tcpip programs in Warp you will see Ultimedia Mail/2 'Lite' HTH Wayne > Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote: > > Can anyone please tell me what this is and what it does? > > > > TIA, > > > > -Chris > > > > > Hi Chris, > > If I'm not mistaken, Ultimedia/2 was introduced as a product back in > the OS/2 1.3 days as a method of transferring multimedia content across > the LAN (Netbios) at a higher priority than other data. So Video > Streaming, Audio Streaming etc. > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 18:16:45 +1100 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: LAN Server Ultimedia On Sun, January 8, 2006 2:49 pm, Ed Durrant wrote: > Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote: > >> Can anyone please tell me what this is and what it does? > If I'm not mistaken, Ultimedia/2 was introduced as a product back in > the OS/2 1.3 days as a method of transferring multimedia content across the > LAN (Netbios) at a higher priority than other data. So Video > Streaming, Audio Streaming etc. LAN Server Ultimedia IBM LAN Server Ultimedia extends the already considerable distributed multimedia capabilities of LAN Server Advanced, by establishing a controlled environment to enable uncompromised provision of audio and video data to DOS, DOS/Windows or OS/2 clients on either TokenRing or Ethernet networks. 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MultiMedia & UltiMedia UltiMedia series IBM These three exciting multimedia authoring tools use the capabilities of OS/2 to integrate multimedia into your everyday business applications. Builder/2 IBM Create exciting multimedia personations with images, audio, animation and special effects. Use the films Vip-like work area for easy, visual prototyping of your presentation or, if you're familiar with programming languages, enter text - you choose the one that suits your needs and experience. Produce lively sales and marketing presentations, powerful product and service demos, and effective training courses. Perfect Image/2 IBM An image enhancement and capture tool that can resize, enhance, copy, paste, crop or rotate digitized images. Drag and drop images from different sources to include in your desktop business applications. Crop, filter, and mask selected areas of an image to achieve unique special effects. With a Video Capture Adapter card installed, you can also capture still image frames from video sources. Workplace/2 IBM Organize and manage multimedia (image, audio, and video) files simply and visually with Workplace/2. You see and work with miniature pictures of the files called "thumbnails." These are integrated into powerful relational databases by defining text for each thumbnail. Media browsers let you display or play a file by double-clicking on the frame. Video IN IBM Now you can be your own producer with Video IN and others can watch your videos right on their computers, without any additional video hardware. Features real time capture & compression, synchronized video and audio, video recorder/editor, still image capture, and video developer's toolkit.. After capturing your video, use an application such as Builder/2 to create exciting personations. -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:29:46 +0000 From: Alan Duval Subject: Disk Imaging Hi, What present disk imaging software is useful for eCs? Up till now I've used Drive Image 3.0 to image partitions and it's worked well. However it's not worked for cloning a disk to another disk yesterday. I then tried DFSee and at the speed it was going it would have taken a week having copied about 2% in 5 hours. I don't know whether this was due to using DFSee from a floppy as when used from eCs it copied a 3GB partition to another disk fairly quickly. However as DFSee is working in memory when loaded from a floppy there shouldn't have been a difference. Hence I aborted that and decided to install boot manager and then WIN XP, intending to install other partitions from images. However I couldn't get boot manager to work and in using LVM or DFSee somehow got the partition tables of the hard disk corrupted and it now can't be used. I don't think Acronis , Drive Image or Norton Ghost support HPFS. Regards, Alan Duval ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 20:37:04 +1100 (EST) From: "Voytek Eymont" Subject: Re: Disk Imaging On Mon, January 9, 2006 7:29 am, Alan Duval wrote: > Hi, > > > What present disk imaging software is useful for eCs? I normally use InfoZIP or XCOPY not quite imaging, but, works well -- Voytek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:49:00 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Disk Imaging Voytek Eymont wrote: > On Mon, January 9, 2006 7:29 am, Alan Duval wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >> What present disk imaging software is useful for eCs? > > I normally use InfoZIP or XCOPY > not quite imaging, but, works well > If you mean actual hardware disk imaging, then any of the Windows/Dos/Linux products will work as long as you have a bootable system media (CD, Diskette), will do the job. In the aim of supporting those who support OS/2, please consider DFSEE - it comes in OS/2 Windoze, Linsux and DOS versions. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:02:09 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Disk Imaging Ed Durrant wrote: > Voytek Eymont wrote: >> On Mon, January 9, 2006 7:29 am, Alan Duval wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> What present disk imaging software is useful for eCs? >> >> I normally use InfoZIP or XCOPY >> not quite imaging, but, works well >> > If you mean actual hardware disk imaging, then any of the > Windows/Dos/Linux products will work as long as you have a bootable > system media (CD, Diskette), will do the job. > > In the aim of supporting those who support OS/2, please consider DFSEE - > it comes in OS/2 Windoze, Linsux and DOS versions. > > Cheers/2 > > Ed. Meant to say DFSEE can be slow depending upon where you are writing the image to, whether you are compressing or not, whether you are backing up the complete drive or just a partition. Ghost tends to be faster, but only when it recognises the file system, when it has to do a bit by bit image copy, it also is slow. The tool you use will need to understand LVM if your drive has been converted to LVM (which most of ours are), so that takes you back to DFSEE as the only option I believe, unless there is a Linsux product ? If you only want to back up one partition to another, then ZIP or even XCOPY with correct switches set is as good a solution as any ! Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:47:54 +1000 From: "Robert Traynor (BobT)" Subject: Re: Disk Imaging Hi Alan, Like Voytek, I mostly use infozip to zip up a partition to a backup zip file, or else I use (like Ed and from memory) "Xcopy c:\*.* x:\ /h/o/t/s/e/r/v" which I run from the command line of a eCS installation CD. Where C: is the source and X: whichever drive letter you assign TEMPORARILY to the new drive/partition by way of LVM. After transfer, shutdown, remove the original disk (source) etc. and reboot CD and run LVM to reassign the X: back to the ORIGINAL drive C: again. I have also used File Commander for os/2 on my own modified eCS CD and it will also copy the whole contents of one partition to another. Simply highlight all files and folders and press F5 to copy from one pane to the other. On my own eCS 1.1 and 1.2 CD's I have put File Commander/2 on the CD in S:\Extras\Fc2 . I just go to command line from eCS 1.2 CD and change to the CD by "S:". Next type "cd\Extras\Fc2" then "FC" and finally press ENTER. Use Alt-F1 and choose a drive letter for the left pane and Alt-F2 and choose a letter for the right pane. F1 for help. Tab for changing from left to right and vice versa. Highlight by the "Insert" Key. File Commander/2 will also work from a floppy if you boot from CD or you can also run FC from another partition on the hard drive. As regards Disk Imaging tools, DriveImage 6.0 no longer seems to work when booted from dos, and I have yet to try the newer Acronis True Image 9, which I think is supposed to recognise hpfs partitions, but not the LVM information. I am a registered user of DfSee7 but have not yet tried to use the Clone function. Perhaps I will in future. The odd time I use DfSee, I either use it from within WinXP or eCS or when booted from it's own CD. I don't trust floppies, these days. DfSee is extremely powerful but is also quite complicated and should be used with extreme care. I mostly have DfSee on hand for the chance that one day I might need it (desperation) and would take advantage of the excellent email help that the author Jan provides, on a one on one basis. This is virtually when he tells you by email, what to do command by command. Twice in the distant past he has enabled me to recover from my own mistakes. Just my two cents worth. Regards, Robert Traynor (BobT). 8 January 2006 21:24 On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:29:46 +0000, Alan Duval wrote: > Hi, > > What present disk imaging software is useful for eCs? > Up till now I've used Drive Image 3.0 to image partitions and it's > worked well. However it's not worked for cloning a disk to another disk > yesterday. > I then tried DFSee and at the speed it was going it would have taken a > week having copied about 2% in 5 hours. I don't know whether this was > due to using DFSee from a floppy as when used from eCs it copied a 3GB > partition to another disk fairly quickly. However as DFSee is working in > memory when loaded from a floppy there shouldn't have been a difference. > Hence I aborted that and decided to install boot manager and then WIN > XP, intending to install other partitions from images. However I > couldn't get boot manager to work and in using LVM or DFSee somehow got > the partition tables of the hard disk corrupted and it now can't be used. > I don't think Acronis , Drive Image or Norton Ghost support HPFS. > > Regards, > > Alan Duval ,-._|\ Robert Traynor (BobT) / Oz \ email rtraynor at removeme.optusnet dot com dot au \_,--.x/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:52:30 +1000 From: "Robert Traynor (BobT)" Subject: Re: Zip On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 14:42:50 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: > No one can say which version you "should" be using but as far as I can > see, these are the latest versions: > > PKZIP v 2.5 > > ZIP (used by most os/2 zip frontends or from the command line) V 2.31 > (this came out about 2 months ago). what I find strange is the the > previous version was V 5.41 !! Hi Ed, I think you are confusing Zip and UnZip which are grossly different in their version numbers. Currently, I think the most recent versions are:- InfoZip's ZIP for os/2 is v2.31 and InfoZip's UNZIP is v5.52. > > UNZIP v 5.5 > > Cheers/2 > Ed. Regards, Robert Traynor (BobT). 8 January 2006 21:51 ,-._|\ Robert Traynor (BobT) / Oz \ email rtraynor at removeme.optusnet dot com dot au \_,--.x/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:00:49 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Zip Robert Traynor (BobT) wrote: > On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 14:42:50 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: > > > >> No one can say which version you "should" be using but as far as I can >> see, these are the latest versions: >> >> PKZIP v 2.5 >> >> ZIP (used by most os/2 zip frontends or from the command line) V 2.31 >> (this came out about 2 months ago). what I find strange is the the >> previous version was V 5.41 !! > > Hi Ed, > I think you are confusing Zip and UnZip which are grossly different in their > version numbers. Currently, I think the most recent versions are:- > InfoZip's ZIP for os/2 is v2.31 and InfoZip's UNZIP is v5.52. > >> UNZIP v 5.5 >> >> Cheers/2 >> Ed. Hi Bob, Just checked what was in my ZIP541 directory .... Unzip v 5.41 !! So latest ZIP is therefore 2.31 and Unzip V 5.5 Thanks Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:37:08 +1100 (EDT) From: "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" Subject: Re: Disk Imaging On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:29:46 +0000, Alan Duval wrote: >Hi, > >What present disk imaging software is useful for eCs? >Up till now I've used Drive Image 3.0 to image partitions and it's >worked well. However it's not worked for cloning a disk to another disk >yesterday. >I then tried DFSee and at the speed it was going it would have taken a >week having copied about 2% in 5 hours. I don't know whether this was >due to using DFSee from a floppy as when used from eCs it copied a 3GB >partition to another disk fairly quickly. However as DFSee is working in >memory when loaded from a floppy there shouldn't have been a difference. >Hence I aborted that and decided to install boot manager and then WIN >XP, intending to install other partitions from images. However I >couldn't get boot manager to work and in using LVM or DFSee somehow got >the partition tables of the hard disk corrupted and it now can't be used. >I don't think Acronis , Drive Image or Norton Ghost support HPFS. You can always use my DiskImg utility in my utils; if the drive geometry is the same. -Chris WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2. Voice: +61-3-9395-1504 Internet: chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au FAX: +61-3-9395-7633 Web Page: http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 4293, Hoppers Crossing DC, VIC 3029, AUSTRALIA ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------