From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:03:03 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1239 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Friday 13 January 2006 Number 1239 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: IBM ServeRAID 3L : Ed Durrant 1 Re: IBM ServeRAID 3L : Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" 2 Speaking of Firefox... : Gavin Miller 2 Re: Speaking of Firefox... : Gavin Miller 3 Re: IBM ServeRAID 3L : Michael Barrow" 3 Re: Zip : John Angelico" 4 Re: IBM ServeRAID 3L : Wayne 4 Re: IBM ServeRAID 3L : Ed Durrant 5 Re: Speaking of Firefox... : Ed Durrant 5 Re: Speaking of Firefox... : Ed Durrant 6 Re: Speaking of Firefox... : Peter Moylan 6 Re: IBM ServeRAID 3L : Peter Moylan **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:39:24 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: IBM ServeRAID 3L Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:04:56 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: > >> Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote: > > Yes there is an orange led right next to it, that lights up as I would > expected it to. > > The odd thing is that the LED does light up when the card is being reset, > but only then. > > -Chris > One more thought, are there different volyage or current LEDs ?? - could it be that the case LED that you have is simply not compatible with the connector as it draws too much current ?? Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:27:48 +1100 (EDT) From: "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" Subject: Re: IBM ServeRAID 3L On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:39:24 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: >Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote: >> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:04:56 +1100, Ed Durrant wrote: >> >>> Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote: > >> >> Yes there is an orange led right next to it, that lights up as I would >> expected it to. >> >> The odd thing is that the LED does light up when the card is being reset, >> but only then. >> >> -Chris >> >One more thought, are there different volyage or current LEDs ?? - could >it be that the case LED that you have is simply not compatible with the >connector as it draws too much current ?? I've been wondering that myself, does it need a resistor in series to drop the current drawn. But, why would they be the _only_ people on the entire planet who would require this? -Chris WarpSpeed Computers - The Graham Utilities for OS/2. Voice: +61-3-9395-1504 Internet: chrisg at warpspeed dot com dot au FAX: +61-3-9395-7633 Web Page: http://www.warpspeed dot com dot au Postal: WarpSpeed Computers, PO Box 4293, Hoppers Crossing DC, VIC 3029, AUSTRALIA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:53:43 +1100 From: Gavin Miller Subject: Speaking of Firefox... Do Firefox and Thunderbird play nicely these days? Which versions work together? Cheers G ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:36:46 +1100 From: Gavin Miller Subject: Re: Speaking of Firefox... I have FF 1.5 and TB 1.5 RC1 now and they both work together, however I can't seem to get FF to link to TB without having to manually start TB. TB starts FF no problems. Has anyone encountered this and/or have a fix? Oh and have used configapps. Cheers G ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:39:21 +1100 From: "Michael Barrow" Subject: Re: IBM ServeRAID 3L ** Reply to message from "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" on Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:27:48 +1100 (EDT) Quote >One more thought, are there different volyage or current LEDs ?? - could >it be that the case LED that you have is simply not compatible with the >connector as it draws too much current ?? >I've been wondering that myself, does it need a resistor in series to drop >the current drawn. Unquote It's been a while since I was actually hands on but to the best of my knowledge standard LEDs draw 20 mA max and you have to put a resistor in series to limit the current. If you have an LED that you are replacing then the resistor will already be in place. I stated standard before as there are now LEDs designed to do different things like flash and work directly in cars and such, these have differing requirements. Another option if you are more than competent with a soldering iron and removal methods, (or know someone who is), would be to take the LED out and extend it with wire to your front panel. Regards, Michael ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 07:37:50 +1100 (AEDT) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: Zip On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:36 +1100, Peter Moylan wrote: > >When I want to look inside a zip file before unzipping, or make minor >modifications to something I've just zipped, I use KAZip. I've tried a >variety of other GUI zip utilities, and I still have Archive Viewer >installed (although I never use it except by accident), but I haven't >been satisfied with any of them. KAZip might be old and unsupported, but >it works better than anything else I've seen. Hmm, I use Hyperview (also old but very effective). Still available at OS/2 Site AFAIK. Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ PMTagline v1.50 - Copyright, 1996-1997, Stephen Berg and John Angelico .... OS/2: When only the best will do... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 18:38:54 -09:3 From: Wayne Subject: Re: IBM ServeRAID 3L ** Reply to note from "Michael Barrow" Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:39:21 +1100 > > ** Reply to message from "Chris Graham [WarpSpeed]" > on Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:27:48 +1100 (EDT) > Quote > >One more thought, are there different volyage or current LEDs ?? - could > >it be that the case LED that you have is simply not compatible with the > >connector as it draws too much current ?? Or different voltage. > > >I've been wondering that myself, does it need a resistor in series to drop > >the current drawn. > Unquote > > It's been a while since I was actually hands on but to the best of my knowledge > standard LEDs draw 20 mA max and you have to put a resistor in series to limit > the current. Small "indicator" leds (eg from pc, hdd, toaster, tv etc) normally only draw a few milliamps. > If you have an LED that you are replacing then the resistor will already be in > place. > > I stated standard before as there are now LEDs designed to do different things > like flash and work directly in cars and such, these have differing > requirements. > > Another option if you are more than competent with a soldering iron and removal > methods, (or know someone who is), would be to take the LED out and extend it > with wire to your front > panel. > > Regards, > Michael Leds also must be wired with correct polarity. Holden has a concept car called Efijy that uses 20W leds for headlights. Cheers Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:48:00 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: IBM ServeRAID 3L Chris Graham [WarpSpeed] wrote: >> One more thought, are there different volyage or current LEDs ?? - could >> it be that the case LED that you have is simply not compatible with the >> connector as it draws too much current ?? > > I've been wondering that myself, does it need a resistor in series to drop > the current drawn. > > But, why would they be the _only_ people on the entire planet who would > require this? > > -Chris > Probably as the main market for this card was / is to go into IBM hardware. for OEM systems people would normally buy the Mylex or Adaptec card. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:49:46 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Speaking of Firefox... Gavin Miller wrote: > Do Firefox and Thunderbird play nicely these days? Which versions work > together? > > Cheers > G > > > I use 1.5RC1 of both programs. I'd like to use 1.5GA - which is available in an OS/2 form for Fiewfox, but not for Thunderbird yet (AFAIK). Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:55:29 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Speaking of Firefox... Gavin Miller wrote: > I have FF 1.5 and TB 1.5 RC1 now and they both work together, however I > can't seem to get FF to link to TB without having to manually start TB. > TB starts FF no problems. Has anyone encountered this and/or have a > fix? Oh and have used configapps. > > Cheers > G I believe this is a known outstanding problem in RC1. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:27:38 +1100 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: Speaking of Firefox... Ed Durrant wrote: > Gavin Miller wrote: >> Do Firefox and Thunderbird play nicely these days? Which versions >> work together? >> > I use 1.5RC1 of both programs. I'd like to use 1.5GA - which is > available in an OS/2 form for Fiewfox, but not for Thunderbird yet > (AFAIK). I use RUN! by Rich Walsh (look for run_060.zip if you don't know it) to run both of them: 1.5GA Firefox, and 1.5RC2 Thunderbird. (I also tried 1.5rc1 of Thunderbird, but found it to be too buggy to be useful.) They seem to play well together, although now that I think of it I rarely try to e-mail from Firefox. (I've stopped putting mailto: links on my web pages, and that seems to have stopped the spammers from finding my new addresses (so far!).) Firefox 1.5 works very nicely. The latest Thunderbird still has a few bugs: (a) If you ever select the option to compact a folder, there is no way (to my knowledge) to turn it off, and you will be nagged forever by a popup asking for confirmation. This bug has been in every release of Thunderbird that I've tried. (b) The "account settings" dialogue attempts to take over the entire screen - this seems to be the standard trick of all "clueless newbie" HTML coders - and there's no way to resize it. That means that if your screen height is reduced by a WPS extender like eCenter or PC/2 (I use both), the top of the dialogue disappears off the top of the screen. This is a new bug; previous versions worked properly. (c) My copy seemed to change the location of the "Local Folders" directory, leading to great confusion as to which files should be where. I'm not sure whether that's a Thunderbird bug or a change I made accidentally. (d) On one of my POP3 accounts the mail is fetched correctly when Thunderbird is opened, but every 10 minutes after that I get two popups asking me (twice!) for the password for that account. (Correction: this evening it has decided to start asking me three times on each fetch.) That password does not get recorded by the Password Manager no matter what I do, although obviously it's recorded somewhere because the initial fetch works. I'm sorry to say, too, that no release of Thunderbird has ever fixed the most annoying bug of all: when you create a new account, "post in HTML" is the default behaviour, and it's easy to forget to turn it off. The "rewrap" function now works for quoted text, but not for original text. And you have to use "rewrap" every now and then while you're typing, because the default "plain text" line length is something like 200 characters. The only way to see what you're typing as you're typing it, without forever scrolling left and right, is to maximise the window. In other words, the Thunderbird developers seem to have adopted the Microsoftism that nobody ever multitasks. But in any case the "rewrap" affects only what you see at the sending end. The text always goes out in the (nonstandard?) "format=flawed" form, which is a nuisance because a lot of mail readers can't handle that. -- Peter Moylan peter at ozebelg dot org peter.moylan at optusnet dot com dot au http://www.pmoylan dot org Please note the changed e-mail and web addresses. The domain eepjm.newcastle.edu.au no longer exists. My e-mail addresses at newcastle.edu.au will probably remain "live" for a while, but then they will disappear without warning. The optusnet address still has about 6 months of life left. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:32:31 +1100 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: IBM ServeRAID 3L Wayne wrote: > Holden has a concept car called Efijy that uses 20W leds for > headlights. That sounds promising. Lately I've been seriously considering using sunglasses for night driving, because of all the new cars that seem to have megawatt-rated headlamps stuck permanently on high beam. The blinding effect is as bad as being tailgated by a 4WD. There oughta be a law! -- Peter Moylan peter at ozebelg dot org peter.moylan at optusnet dot com dot au http://www.pmoylan dot org Please note the changed e-mail and web addresses. The domain eepjm.newcastle.edu.au no longer exists. My e-mail addresses at newcastle.edu.au will probably remain "live" for a while, but then they will disappear without warning. The optusnet address still has about 6 months of life left. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------