From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 00:04:48 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1263 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Tuesday 21 February 2006 Number 1263 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 * Monthly Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting * : List Admin" 2 USB Flash Memory : Alan Duval 3 Re: USB Flash Memory : Ed Durrant 4 Re: USB Flash Memory : Ed Durrant 5 Re: USB Flash Memory : Kev 6 Re: USB Flash Memory : David Shearer" 7 Re: USB Flash Memory : Peter Moylan **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Tue, 21 February 2006 14:00:00 +1100 (EADT) From: "List Admin" Subject: * Monthly Melbourne OS/2 SIG Meeting * We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. The Monthly meeting of 'Melbourne PC Users Group OS/2 SIG' Date: Tuesday, 28th February 2006 Time: 7:00PM - 9:30PM Melbourne PC Users Group premises are located at :- 2nd floor, Chadstone Place (near Bi-Lo) Chadstone Shopping Centre [ Melway 96 E4 ]. Victoria, Australia. The entrance is on the Southern side of the Centre between the National Bank and My Chemist. And another entrance for after hours access to the lift from inside the shopping centre opposite the Bi-Lo store. The Monthly Meeting of Melbourne OS/2 SIG is normally held the fourth Tuesday of each month. EXCEPT December. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:01:42 +1100 From: Alan Duval Subject: USB Flash Memory Hi, I'm thinking of buying USB Flash Memory. Questions: 1. Are there any brands that I should avoid? 2. Will eCS 1.2 recognize it? 3. Is formatting required? Regards, Alan duval ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:43:34 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: USB Flash Memory Alan Duval wrote: > Hi, > > I'm thinking of buying USB Flash Memory. > Questions: > > 1. Are there any brands that I should avoid? > 2. Will eCS 1.2 recognize it? > 3. Is formatting required? > > Regards, > > Alan duval > > > Hmm, if by "Flash memory" you mean a USB memory key (Flash memory is usually used to hold firmware code on various devices) - I have never had any issues as long as you have the latest USB drivers (basic and MSD) installed, however, to be sure to get a make/model that works check at http://www.os2warp.be Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:44:36 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: USB Flash Memory Alan Duval wrote: > Hi, > > I'm thinking of buying USB Flash Memory. > Questions: > > 1. Are there any brands that I should avoid? > 2. Will eCS 1.2 recognize it? > 3. Is formatting required? > > Regards, > > Alan duval > > > Hmm, if by "Flash memory" you mean a USB memory key (Flash memory is usually used to hold firmware code on various devices) - I have never had any issues as long as you have the latest USB drivers (basic and MSD) installed, however, to be sure to get a make/model that works check at http://www.os2warp.be As for formatting, yes it is needed - if you want to transfer between OS/2-eCS and "the darkside" FAT32 is probably the safest choice. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:26:26 +0800 From: Kev Subject: Re: USB Flash Memory G'day Alan > Alan Duval wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm thinking of buying USB Flash Memory. >> Questions: >> >> 1. Are there any brands that I should avoid? I've used PQI brand thumb drives for a year or so, now with no problems at all. Recognized on Wintendo, Linux and eCS. >> 2. Will eCS 1.2 recognize it? yes >> 3. Is formatting required? Use FAT32 with the latest FAT32.IFS. I'm 99.9% certain that they're formatted FAT32 out of the box - I've not needed to format one of this brand, and they've all worked for me. I do, however, have the FAT32 driver installed as a matter of course in my machines, hence a no-brainer - plug it in - it works!! Cheers Kev -- ========================= Kev Downes kdownes at tpg dot com dot au ph 0404 7 0808 2 We use and recommend Xandros 3.0.2 ========================= There are 10 types of people ... ... those who understand binary, and those who don't! ========================= "Jesus Christ is the centre of everything and the object of everything; He who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world and nothing of himself." Blaise Pascal ========================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:40:07 +1000 (KST) From: "David Shearer" Subject: Re: USB Flash Memory On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:26:26 +0800, Kev wrote: >G'day Alan > >> Alan Duval wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm thinking of buying USB Flash Memory. >>> Questions: >>> >>> 1. Are there any brands that I should avoid? > >I've used PQI brand thumb drives for a year or so, now with no problems >at all. Recognized on Wintendo, Linux and eCS. > >>> 2. Will eCS 1.2 recognize it? > >yes > >>> 3. Is formatting required? > >Use FAT32 with the latest FAT32.IFS. I'm 99.9% certain that they're >formatted FAT32 out of the box - I've not needed to format one of this >brand, and they've all worked for me. I do, however, have the FAT32 >driver installed as a matter of course in my machines, hence a >no-brainer - plug it in - it works!! > >Cheers >Kev > >-- ========================= >Kev Downes >kdownes at tpg dot com dot au ph 0404 7 0808 2 >We use and recommend Xandros 3.0.2 ========================= >There are 10 types of people ... > ... those who understand binary, and those who don't! ========================= >"Jesus Christ is the centre of everything and the object of everything; >He who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world >and nothing of himself." Blaise Pascal ========================= > I have used the sandisk cruzer series without any problem. They are relatively cheap and good value. I have only used them as FAT16 not FAT32 - up to 256MB. Using the latest FAT32.IFS drivers I cannot get them to work if formatted as FAT32 - and yes I have latest USB drivers under ecs 1.2. Can anyone advise how they got fat32 to work on removable drives? I have this problem also with some cheaper MP3 players which come pre formated as fat32 and do not work on ecs 1.2. David ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 23:15:31 +1100 From: Peter Moylan Subject: Re: USB Flash Memory Ed Durrant wrote: > As for formatting, yes it is needed - if you want to transfer between > OS/2-eCS and "the darkside" FAT32 is probably the safest choice. I used to set up my memory stick as a drive with LVM, which gave it a consistent drive letter regardless of which computer I connected it to. It turned out that I had to stop doing that because if you ever use an LVM-configured memory stick with Windows (any flavour) it will mess up the partition table. Windows just doesn't understand partitions. One thing I did try once was to partition it into two volumes, one formatted as FAT to copy data to Windows, and one formatted HPFS for OS/2 use. This turned out to be even worse. Although LVM or FDISK can see the two partitions, some other parts of the OS/2 file system can't! So it turns out that OS/2 doesn't understand partitions on a USB device either. The bottom line is that you have to treat it as a large floppy, i.e. no partition table. If you have to use it with Windows as well then indeed FAT32 is the best choice. If however you use it only with OS/2 then HPFS is a much more robust file system, i.e. problems can generally be repaired with CHKDSK. I've found that problems do arise once in a long while, for no apparent reason; possibly static electricity in my briefcase. -- Peter Moylan peter at ozebelg dot org peter.moylan at optusnet dot com dot au http://www.pmoylan dot org Please note the changed e-mail and web addresses. The domain eepjm.newcastle.edu.au no longer exists. My e-mail addresses at newcastle.edu.au will probably remain "live" for a while, but then they will disappear without warning. The optusnet address still has about 5 months of life left. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------