From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 00:01:03 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1381 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Thursday 26 October 2006 Number 1381 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: Kyocera Printer support? : Ed Durrant 2 Re: Kyocera Printer support? : Ed Durrant 3 Re: Kyocera Printer support? : John Angelico" 4 Re: Kyocera Printer support? : Kris Steenhaut 5 Re: Kyocera Printer support? : Kris Steenhaut 6 Re: Kyocera Printer support? : Kris Steenhaut 7 Re: Kyocera Printer support? : Kris Steenhaut 8 Re: Kyocera Printer support? : Ed Durrant 9 Re: Kyocera Printer support? : Ed Durrant **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 06:33:07 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Kyocera Printer support? Hi John, From the references I can find on the web, this definately looks like a host based printer (aka Winprinter). In the Linux community, someone has got it "partially working" using Ghost to drive it. Sorry it doesn't look good ! Cheers/2 Ed. John Angelico wrote: > Hi all. > > Faithful laser printer Kyocera-Mita FS-1010 has suffered a painful death - > drum failure. > > It has been a sturdy workhorse for at least 3 years, but it is too > expensive to replace the drum (can you say hundreds and hundreds?). :-((( > > So I have ordered a Kyocera-Mita FS-820 model after checking basics like > parallel port connector, local availability of consumables etc. and looking > at some reviews online. Cost $A175 plus a little for delivery to our door. > > Minor Panic! One review lists HP-UX and AIX, SunOS/Solaris and the usual > suspects in the MS camp. Although the specs say PCL 6/PCL 5e emulation, can > someone confirm that I can actually drive it from eCS 1.2? > > > > Best regards > John Angelico > OS/2 SIG > os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or > talldad at kepl dot com dot au > ___________________ > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 06:43:10 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Kyocera Printer support? Kris Steenhaut wrote: > John Angelico ha scritto: >> So I have ordered a Kyocera-Mita FS-820 model after checking basics like >> > >> suspects in the MS camp. Although the specs say PCL 6/PCL 5e >> emulation, can >> someone confirm that I can actually drive it from eCS 1.2? >> > > You could have had it confirmed by yourself by doing what everybody > should do first of all: browse the file laserjet.lst in the laserjet.exe > package. The printer is listed there all right: > > Kyocera F-820: Kyocera F-820 (laserjet.drv) > Well that looks a lot more positive than the *nix problem references I was finding on the web John. I hope this really is a non-Win Printer. At that price it sounds a real bargain if it works with OS/2 and eCS ! Did you buy it new or second hand ? Please let us all know your findings ! Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:39:29 +1000 (AEST) From: "John Angelico" Subject: Re: Kyocera Printer support? On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 06:43:10 +1000, Ed Durrant wrote: Hi Kris and Ed. >Kris Steenhaut wrote: >> John Angelico ha scritto: >>> So I have ordered a Kyocera-Mita FS-820 model after checking basics like >>> >> >>> suspects in the MS camp. Although the specs say PCL 6/PCL 5e >>> emulation, can >>> someone confirm that I can actually drive it from eCS 1.2? >>> >> >> You could have had it confirmed by yourself by doing what everybody >> should do first of all: browse the file laserjet.lst in the laserjet.exe >> package. The printer is listed there all right: >> >> Kyocera F-820: Kyocera F-820 (laserjet.drv) I did that in both Laserjet and Postscript, and found above plus FS-800 and FS-850 BUT not *exactly* the FS-820 (or 720 or 920 either) so I hope you ar correct Kris. >> >Well that looks a lot more positive than the *nix problem references I >was finding on the web John. > > I hope this really is a non-Win Printer. At that price it sounds a >real bargain if it works with OS/2 and eCS ! > > Did you buy it new or second hand ? New. Price was previously in the $A250-350 range online, then I saw some places down to $160-200 range and asked my favourite supplier about it. They told me a recent price drop meant I could have it at $175 no problems. I suspect a supercession (run-out pricing) as the FS-920 model is very similar, but more pricey, and there are plenty of other K-M models for workgroups, networked etc. I don't expect to find a power cable or parallel cable but that's no problem here... Best regards John Angelico OS/2 SIG os2 at melbpc dot org dot au or talldad at kepl dot com dot au ___________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 02:55:02 +0200 From: Kris Steenhaut Subject: Re: Kyocera Printer support? Ed Durrant ha scritto: > Hi John, > > From the references I can find on the web, this definately looks > like a host based printer (aka Winprinter). In the Linux community, > someone has got it "partially working" using Ghost to drive it. > > Sorry it doesn't look good ! > Sorry Ed, but your reply doesn't look good. And as a matter of fact, it isn't good, as the Kyocera F-820 is plainly listed as supported in the file "laserjet.lst". And on top of that, if specs say there is PCL5 and/or PCL6 emulation, everybody should know it will work amyway. I'm preaching for over 7 years now to look in the files "omni.lst", "laserjet.lst" and "pscript.lst" before you ask and of course before you buy. Why is it people never want to do the obvious????? (-: -- Groeten uit Gent, Kris ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 02:57:09 +0200 From: Kris Steenhaut Subject: Re: Kyocera Printer support? Ed Durrant ha scritto: >> You could have had it confirmed by yourself by doing what everybody >> should do first of all: browse the file laserjet.lst in the >> laserjet.exe package. The printer is listed there all right: >> >> Kyocera F-820: Kyocera F-820 (laserjet.drv) >> > Well that looks a lot more positive than the *nix problem references I > was finding on the web John. > > I hope this really is a non-Win Printer. At that price it sounds a > real bargain if it works with OS/2 and eCS ! > > Did you buy it new or second hand ? > Good heavens!? Where do you think I told I've purchased a Kyocera printer? .... I don't get it. -- Groeten uit Gent, Kris ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 03:05:19 +0200 From: Kris Steenhaut Subject: Re: Kyocera Printer support? John Angelico ha scritto: > not *exactly* the FS-820 (or 720 or 920 either) > > Then you are *exactly* working with _outdated_ files. Do download the latest from www.ecomstation dot com: 19-07-05 10:08 1.297.739 0 a--- lj30827en.zip Or, if you haven't paid still for your eCS copy: http://www.taartenbakkerij.eu/bestanden/lj30827en.zip > so I hope you ar correct Kris. > > Sė, come (quasi) sempre. -- Groeten uit Gent, Kris ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 03:11:12 +0200 From: Kris Steenhaut Subject: Re: Kyocera Printer support? John Angelico ha scritto: >>>> >>>> >>> You could have had it confirmed by yourself by doing what everybody >>> should do first of all: browse the file laserjet.lst in the laserjet.exe >>> package. The printer is listed there all right: >>> >>> Kyocera F-820: Kyocera F-820 (laserjet.drv) >>> > > I did that in both Laserjet and Postscript, and found above plus FS-800 and > FS-850 > > You shouldn't have looked at all in pscript.lst anyway. > BUT > > not *exactly* the FS-820 (or 720 or 920 either) > > I know the 720 is a winprinter, and IIRC the 920 has pcl emulation, so the latter should work even if it isn't listed. -- Groeten uit Gent, Kris ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:05:27 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Kyocera Printer support? Hi Kris, I have already responded, retracting this comment, based on your input to the list. Ed. Kris Steenhaut wrote: > Ed Durrant ha scritto: >> Hi John, >> >> From the references I can find on the web, this definately looks >> like a host based printer (aka Winprinter). In the Linux community, >> someone has got it "partially working" using Ghost to drive it. >> >> Sorry it doesn't look good ! >> > Sorry Ed, but your reply doesn't look good. And as a matter of fact, it > isn't good, as the Kyocera F-820 is plainly listed as supported in the > file "laserjet.lst". And on top of that, if specs say there is PCL5 > and/or PCL6 emulation, everybody should know it will work amyway. > > I'm preaching for over 7 years now to look in the files "omni.lst", > "laserjet.lst" and "pscript.lst" before you ask and of course before you > buy. > > Why is it people never want to do the obvious????? (-: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:07:10 +1000 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: Kyocera Printer support? Kris Steenhaut wrote: > Ed Durrant ha scritto: >>> You could have had it confirmed by yourself by doing what everybody >>> should do first of all: browse the file laserjet.lst in the >>> laserjet.exe package. The printer is listed there all right: >>> >>> Kyocera F-820: Kyocera F-820 (laserjet.drv) >>> >> Well that looks a lot more positive than the *nix problem references I >> was finding on the web John. >> >> I hope this really is a non-Win Printer. At that price it sounds a >> real bargain if it works with OS/2 and eCS ! >> >> Did you buy it new or second hand ? >> > Good heavens!? > Where do you think I told I've purchased a Kyocera printer? .... I don't > get it. > > > The question on purchase price was to John, not yourself Kris and John has replied. Like I said if this does work on our favorite OS - it's a real bargain at AU$175 ! Cheers/2 Ed. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------