From: Digest To: "OS/2GenAu Digest" Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:01:11 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [os2genau_digest] No. 1421 Reply-To: X-List-Unsubscribe: www.os2site.com/list/ ************************************************** Monday 15 January 2007 Number 1421 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway : Mike O'Connor 2 Re: OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway : Ed Durrant 3 Re: OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway : Kev 4 Re: OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway : Mike O'Connor 5 Re: OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway : Ian Manners" 6 Re: OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway : Mike O'Connor 7 Re: OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway : Mike O'Connor 8 Re: OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway : Ed Durrant 9 Re: OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway : Mike O'Connor 10 openwengo : Ed Durrant **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:42:12 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway Hi All, Sun Is Giving Away Solaris 10 DVDs from the what-is-this-free-you-speak-of dept. posted by kdawson on Sunday January 14, at 15:53 (Sun Microsystems) http://it.slashdot dot org/article.pl?sid=07/01/14/1941259 Regards, Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:42:10 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway Mike O'Connor wrote: > Hi All, > > Sun Is Giving Away Solaris 10 DVDs > from the what-is-this-free-you-speak-of dept. > posted by kdawson on Sunday January 14, at 15:53 (Sun Microsystems) > http://it.slashdot dot org/article.pl?sid=07/01/14/1941259 > > Regards, > Mike > > > I believe it was also on the cover DVD of APC a few months back. Created the individual CD-Rs - tried to install on my test system - wouldn't work - failed with various errors - in effect saying don't try this is on hardware older than about 3 years. Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:22:35 +0900 From: Kev Subject: Re: OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway I got the one from APC many months ago - also v10. My suggestion is don't waste your time. It's like Linux 10 years ago. It might be stable an' all that, but you need to be a full systems engineer to get it installed. Cheers Kev Ed Durrant wrote: > Mike O'Connor wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Sun Is Giving Away Solaris 10 DVDs >> from the what-is-this-free-you-speak-of dept. >> posted by kdawson on Sunday January 14, at 15:53 (Sun Microsystems) >> http://it.slashdot dot org/article.pl?sid=07/01/14/1941259 >> >> Regards, >> Mike > >> >> > >> > I believe it was also on the cover DVD of APC a few months back. Created > the individual CD-Rs - tried to install on my test system - wouldn't > work - failed with various errors - in effect saying don't try this is > on hardware older than about 3 years. -- ========================= Kev Downes kdownes at tpg dot com dot au ph 0404 7 0808 2 We use and recommend Xandros 4.1 ========================= There are 10 types of people ... ... those who understand binary, and those who don't! ========================= "Jesus Christ is the centre of everything and the object of everything; He who does not know him, knows nothing of the order of the world and nothing of himself." Blaise Pascal ========================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:31:09 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway Ed Durrant wrote: > Mike O'Connor wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Sun Is Giving Away Solaris 10 DVDs >> from the what-is-this-free-you-speak-of dept. >> posted by kdawson on Sunday January 14, at 15:53 (Sun Microsystems) >> http://it.slashdot dot org/article.pl?sid=07/01/14/1941259 >> >> Regards, >> Mike > I believe it was also on the cover DVD of APC a few months back. > Created the individual CD-Rs - tried to install on my test system - > wouldn't work - failed with various errors - in effect saying don't > try this is on hardware older than about 3 years. > > Cheers/2 Hi Ed, Will keep that in mind when I get around to trying it. Should be OK with HP dx5150 though! Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:34:25 +1100 (EDT) From: "Ian Manners" Subject: Re: OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway Hi Kev >I got the one from APC many months ago - also v10. My suggestion is >don't waste your time. It's like Linux 10 years ago. It might be >stable an' all that, but you need to be a full systems engineer to get >it installed. I didnt have any problems, and the installer is quite slick. Pentium III 650 with 1G RAM and a 20G harddisk plus ATI card with 128M ram. Newest hardware was the 20Gb HD and ATI card I bought about 3 years ago. I'd put it on a par with Linux a year ago :-) A lot easier than OS/2 would be for a beginner :-| Cheers Ian Manners Tech Fossil (Often called a Dinosaur) - ancient animal that gets things done http://www.os2site dot com/ One could not be a successful scientist without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of scientists, a goodly number of scientists are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid." -- J. D. Watson, THE DOUBLE HELIX ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:59:12 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway Kev wrote: > I got the one from APC many months ago - also v10. My suggestion is > don't waste your time. It's like Linux 10 years ago. It might be > stable an' all that, but you need to be a full systems engineer to get > it installed. > > Cheers > Kev Hi Kev, No problem - I have installed a full SUN system and network from complete scratch a few times, whilst I was training with SUN at Griffith Uni in Brisbane in 1994 - whilst doing the Advanced SA's Course! Regards, Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:01:54 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway Ian Manners wrote: > Hi Kev >> I got the one from APC many months ago - also v10. My suggestion is >> don't waste your time. It's like Linux 10 years ago. It might be >> stable an' all that, but you need to be a full systems engineer to get >> it installed. > I didnt have any problems, and the installer is quite slick. > Pentium III 650 with 1G RAM and a 20G harddisk plus ATI card with 128M ram. > Newest hardware was the 20Gb HD and ATI card I bought about 3 years > ago. I'd put it on a par with Linux a year ago :-) > > A lot easier than OS/2 would be for a beginner :-| > > Cheers > Ian Manners Hi Ian, That's encouraging news! Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:38:05 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: Re: OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway Ian Manners wrote: > Hi Kev > >> I got the one from APC many months ago - also v10. My suggestion is >> don't waste your time. It's like Linux 10 years ago. It might be >> stable an' all that, but you need to be a full systems engineer to get >> it installed. > > I didnt have any problems, and the installer is quite slick. > Pentium III 650 with 1G RAM and a 20G harddisk plus ATI card with 128M ram. > Newest hardware was the 20Gb HD and ATI card I bought about 3 years > ago. I'd put it on a par with Linux a year ago :-) > > A lot easier than OS/2 would be for a beginner :-| > > Cheers > Ian Manners > Tech Fossil (Often called a Dinosaur) - ancient animal that gets things done > http://www.os2site dot com/ > > This sounds like a real case of YMMV - my (quite similar) configuration, was a PIII 500, 768MB RAM and 40GB harddisk - nothing fancy ! I tried about 5 time to install and it failed at different points each time. *My* Opinion of what was supplied on the APC DVD (and this could be part of the problem I guess), was it was a depressing waste of my time and don't forget, I know tricky installs, having installed all OS/2 versions from v1.1 onwards and all Windoze versions since Windows 286 ! So my vote on Solaris 10 is MINUS 10 !! Cheers/2 Ed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:58:06 +1000 From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: OT: Solaris 10 DVD Giveaway Ed Durrant wrote: > Ian Manners wrote: >> Hi Kev >> >>> I got the one from APC many months ago - also v10. My suggestion is >>> don't waste your time. It's like Linux 10 years ago. It might be >>> stable an' all that, but you need to be a full systems engineer to >>> get it installed. >> I didnt have any problems, and the installer is quite slick. >> Pentium III 650 with 1G RAM and a 20G harddisk plus ATI card with >> 128M ram. >> Newest hardware was the 20Gb HD and ATI card I bought about 3 years >> ago. I'd put it on a par with Linux a year ago :-) >> >> A lot easier than OS/2 would be for a beginner :-| >> >> Cheers >> Ian Manners > This sounds like a real case of YMMV - my (quite similar) > configuration, was a PIII 500, 768MB RAM and 40GB harddisk - nothing > fancy ! > > I tried about 5 time to install and it failed at different points each > time. > > *My* Opinion of what was supplied on the APC DVD (and this could be > part of the problem I guess), was it was a depressing waste of my time > and don't forget, I know tricky installs, having installed all OS/2 > versions from v1.1 onwards and all Windoze versions since Windows 286 ! > > So my vote on Solaris 10 is MINUS 10 !! > > Cheers/2 Hi Ed, I am sure that the CDs distributed directly from SUN Microsystems are of a much better quality than those mass-produced APC versions. I have found that many times in the past with other media-distributed CDs. Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:59:13 +1100 From: Ed Durrant Subject: openwengo I've been looking for a while for a free VOIP (SIP standard) client that will run under OS/2. I have tried several Windows versions under ODIN or INNOWIN and while some install, not have ran so far. I have just come across this site: http://www.openwengo dot org/ Where they have a client that is supposed to be configurable for any service provider. I have seen it written that it will even run off a USB key - usefull if your travelling and want to call home cheaply from an internet cafe. I have tried this client with ODIN and INNOWIN also without success. Very interestingly they also have a firefox plugin of the application, but it reports that it cannot install in FF v 2.0, only up to v 1.5. I suspect this xpi actually makes Windoze calls as well however. There's also source code available on the site if anyone is willing to compile to a new operating system, other than Windoze, Linux and MAC. Cheers/2 Ed. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------